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National T20 Cup postponed to 4-19 Nov - Pakistan players to be allowed to return for CPL & County

And there's the U-turn !

National T20 now postponed to November. Players will undergo fitness tests between Aug 22 and 24, and then fly back to complete their county and CPL stints.

PCB Zindabad :)) :facepalm:

Najam Sethi at a press conference:

"The World XI series was not officially confirmed when we set the dates for our domestic tournament"

"That series falls right in the middle of when our competition would have been played. Then there's a by-election (NA120) and after that the team has to go to the UAE, so the competition was squeezed out"

"As a result, we have moved it to November"

"An added advantage of this arrangement is that our players who are taking part in the CPL and other county will be able to take full part in those tournaments. This will make the players happy too as well as the CPL"
 
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Not sure how this is going to work... for example, Tallawahs already announced Mahmudullah as a replacement for Imad and Somerset clearly said Fakhar won't be coming.
 
I just wonder what 'll be PCB's TA/DA bill for this exercise!!!!!


However, I see a brighter light in this & I actually have started to like this gentleman Sethi, who is trying to change few things.

One on my major issue with PAK domestic was playing FC cricket in nov - dec & play T20s in summer when day light is better. I always thought that for domestic LO tournaments, best time in PAK is nov to Jan period while FC should be played between Feb to June. Looks like, they are heading to that direction.

PS: I hope PCB isn't planning to scrap FC tournament all together- that'll be a bit anti climax to my thrills.....
 
What an absolute joke!

Essex and Amir are knocked out of the T20 cup
Sarfraz and Yorkshire are knocked out of the T20 cup
Junaid and Lancashire are knocked out of the T20 cup
Somerset have announced that Fakhar wont be coming, even though they are in the QF's

That just leaves Afridi with Hampshire as the sole Pakistani player in the Natwest T20 cup....

...how long before he tweets "Had a great time in Hampshire! Off to Hajj and Eid with the family back home! Thanks everyone!"?
 
I'm looking forward to the excuses (some) posters will now make for Sethi- no doubt they pass the buck.

As I said before, when someone does something which deserves praise I will praise them, when someone does something awful I will criticise them. This falls into the latter category i'm afraid- very poor planning.
 
Sethi Zindabad! What an incompetent man he is; this is excusable behaviour and will adversely impact our players earnings.
 
wondering if CPL teams will even want the players back. If I understand a lot of them went back to Pakistan. Having to adjust to carribean conditions again and a long flight back might not be worth it. Only the guys who probably would make a difference to the potential finals/knock out stages I can see being wanted back. So probably just Hasan Ali, Imad Wasim and Shadab most likely. I wouldn't see teams too readily wanting Hafeez or Kamran back for example who have been awful.
 
This is what happens when you have corrupt incompetent people like Najam Sethi running the board.
 
wondering if CPL teams will even want the players back. If I understand a lot of them went back to Pakistan. Having to adjust to carribean conditions again and a long flight back might not be worth it. Only the guys who probably would make a difference to the potential finals/knock out stages I can see being wanted back. So probably just Hasan Ali, Imad Wasim and Shadab most likely. I wouldn't see teams too readily wanting Hafeez or Kamran back for example who have been awful.

and the fact is that the tournament is in the business stage with knockouts and the like so dunno whether they can even make it back in time
 
Seriously??.. The PCB Management is on a mission to compete with WICB on setting new lows. Absolutely ridiculous decisions :facepalm: The players worked really hard to win the Champions Trophy and when pak cricket was getting recognized by their great cricket and spirit these sort of news comes out..Shame on PCB
 
woah! Why on earth did they announced it in the first place then? The players have no point going back, at least not for the Natwest T20s. Perhaps CPL will still accept a few of them back.

This is one hell of an example of mismanagement!
 
I thought, there'll be some modification in PCB's stance in this regard. I actually wrote on that very day, that the decision might be revoked - that's my experience with PAK cricket for long years. They are doing it in a bit different way to save their face, but fair enough, still credit to them; only, hope that next time they manage it a bit better way.

I think, I wrote in response to someone that Najam Sethi might not be in this circus - guy joined on 9th & this decision (of calling players back) was taken on 10th or 11th, might be the brain child of some over enthusiastic novice - there are several in PCB, who would have a shocking reality check, if ever they had to find a job with resume. There could be technical flaws in his appointment (& he might have dubious past, I don't know), but that guy NS is quite capable to steam iron PCB.

What I take from these events is that, players have expressed their dissatisfaction for the sudden call-back & NS being a business guy, quickly understood the consequences from the reactions - obviously, County management won't express their feelings like the way our MPs do in national assembly. However, sending the players right back, isn't that honorable for PCB & it's ego, therefore this small matter of fitness test - as if it's something space age testing that players had to travel for 10-20 hours flight & then return back next day; something that English Counties couldn't do on behalf. Icing on the cake (for PCB's accountant - that poor guy always is over stressed to balance his left & right columns) is the TA/DA bills for such an important matter of bringing 15+ players at 1st class for 2 days, accommodate at NCA & sent flying back.

I hope, they do stick to their original decision & don't allow 6/7 key players NOC to any of the T20 leagues at that time.
 
Not that I'm defending PCB here...but when they decided to call the players back, the World 11 tour was not confirmed. Now with that being confirmed, and also NA 120 election campaign in full swing, it would be impossible to hold a T20 tournament in between all this.

I think PCB was not too sure about the World 11 series happening and that's what caught them by surprise.
 
So will Somerset still be calling Zaman up or have the PCB cost him a county deal with their ridiculous planning?
 
Not that I'm defending PCB here...but when they decided to call the players back, the World 11 tour was not confirmed. Now with that being confirmed, and also NA 120 election campaign in full swing, it would be impossible to hold a T20 tournament in between all this.

I think PCB was not too sure about the World 11 series happening and that's what caught them by surprise.

That makes no sense whatsoever:

1. When they originally announced the last minute decision to call the players back they justified it by reference to the (i) World XI series and (ii) the NA 120 election. In other words, they used both of the events you mentioned to explain why the tournament had to be held in the period they (originally) announced. So your argument doesn't have any legs.

2. If they weren't sure about the tournament dates/the World XI tour status why immediately demand the return of players who had just been granted NOCs for CPL/county? If they weren't sure then the PCB should have waited and/or held the t20 tournament but not made it compulsory for the PCT players to come back due to the exceptional circumstances (ie the uncertainty). That way they could have played it by ear and if necessary recall the players if the World XI series was going to happen.

It's utter incompetence- anyone with half a brain and a little foresight could have organised this significantly better. The sheer ineptitude begs belief.
 
On such occasions pakpassion should let us do a single emotion reply.

:)))





This is insane.
 
Not that I'm defending PCB here...but when they decided to call the players back, the World 11 tour was not confirmed. Now with that being confirmed, and also NA 120 election campaign in full swing, it would be impossible to hold a T20 tournament in between all this.

I think PCB was not too sure about the World 11 series happening and that's what caught them by surprise.

PCB's own tournament might be goli - danda, but do you think it's fair to shake 3 global tournaments because they were not sure about the schedule?

World XI has it's purpose, so accepted; domestic T20 also has a purpose - but why call players who are contracted? I think, few players would have come back automatically, because their teams are eliminated - just allow the rest to finish their commitments. It's indeed a great idea to ensure top players play domestics as much as possible, but that could have been implemented next year or before the drafts of next T20 league - BBL, CPL< IPL, BPL, County ..... doesn't matter. Now, the tournament is rescheduled in Nov & I can tell that BPL teams won't be happy, this time they might get away with it because of open cap of foreigners, but they'll think twice to hire PAK players next year.
 
What effect, if any, will this delay have on the PSL draft? I can't remember when it closes. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]
 
What effect, if any, will this delay have on the PSL draft? I can't remember when it closes. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

I don't know the exact date but it seems the draft will be held in early November.

It was in mid-October last year.
 
I don't know the exact date but it seems the draft will be held in early November.

It was in mid-October last year.

So the draft will be held before the tournament ends? :facepalm: Way to go!
 
So the draft will be held before the tournament ends? :facepalm: Way to go!

It can be held in October like last year when Pak was playing WI in UAE and this time will be playing Srl. After all it takes around two days to complete the draft cermony.
 
What about the QAE trophy? When will it be taking place then?
 
Shadab returns to TKR

Star leg-spinner Shadab Khan will be returning to the Trinbago Knight Riders after a fitness test in Pakistan later this month.

Shadab, after winning two player of the match awards left after the Patriots game and headed back to Pakistan after being recalled by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). Shadab and a number of Pakistani cricketers were recalled from both the CPL and the English County League. The decision to revoke the NOCs of 13 players had taken many by surprise.

The path to the players’ return was cleared after the Pakistan board chairman Najam Sethi announced that the National T20 Cup, which had compelled the PCB to revoke the players’ NOCs, had been rescheduled for November, following official confirmation of the World XI series in Lahore.

The board had initially given 10 players, including seven centrally contracted cricketers, permission to play the entire CPL. Three cricketers without central contracts —Kamran Akmal (St. Lucia Stars), Sohail Tanvir (Warriors) and Mohammad Sami (Tallawahs)- were also asked to return after they were selected by Rawalpindi, Faisalabad and Lahore Whites for the National T20 Cup.

Other players coming back to the CPL will be Wahab Riaz and Shoaib Malik (Tridents), Imad Wasim (Tallawahs), Hasan Ali (Patriots) and Babar Azam (Warriors).

The same notices went out to Mohammad Amir, who was to stay with Essex until September, Sarfraz Ahmed, who was to play five games for Yorkshire in the Natwest T20 Blast, and Fakhar Zaman, who was set to join Somerset until the end of the season.

Before returning to the CPL and county cricket, the players will have to undergo fitness tests from August 22 to 24.

Team operations manager of the TKR, Colin Borde said Shadab will be back in time for the Tridents clash on September 2 in Barbados. “Shadab will finish camp at 9pm on August 24 and will then fly to Islamabad before taking route to the Caribbean. He will fly to Barbados where he will link up with the team in time for the September 2, clash against the Tridents.” Shadab would have missed the Guyana Amazon Warriors clash and the Patriots clash in St. Kitts tomorrow.

However, he has already done enough to put his team into the knockout stages of the tournament.

The TKR has won six of the seven matches, they have played so far. they will round off their preliminary play with matches against Patriots, Tridents and Tallawahs.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/sports/2017-08-21/shadab-returns-tkr
 
PCB is always a bit of a joke. Has always been for a while.

A lot of players are deprived of experience and good cash because of PCB
 
Sethi's craving for media attention makes him take hasty steps without proper planning. Happens when you have a journalist as the board's chairman.
 
Looks like Sethi negotiated a potential 3 T20s from WI board in return for sending the players back for CPL. Everyone could see that his hastily organized T20 national championship will have problems.
 
Autocratic muppets. It's not just the incompetence that galls but the entitlement. And why not.
Every so called election confirms that Pakistani cricket is their personal fiefdom.
 
PCB's own tournament might be goli - danda, but do you think it's fair to shake 3 global tournaments because they were not sure about the schedule?

World XI has it's purpose, so accepted; domestic T20 also has a purpose - but why call players who are contracted? I think, few players would have come back automatically, because their teams are eliminated - just allow the rest to finish their commitments. It's indeed a great idea to ensure top players play domestics as much as possible, but that could have been implemented next year or before the drafts of next T20 league - BBL, CPL< IPL, BPL, County ..... doesn't matter. Now, the tournament is rescheduled in Nov & I can tell that BPL teams won't be happy, this time they might get away with it because of open cap of foreigners, but they'll think twice to hire PAK players next year.

Yes, awful all around. The purpose of domestics is to identify new talent. There would have been no harm in letting certain picks for the national side play out their overseas contracts.
 
Im more interested to know whether Fakhar and Amir will play for their teams or not
 
Many Pakistani players are in the draft of T20 Global League. Its in november as well so will the players be called back again all for the national T20 cup?
 
Im more interested to know whether Fakhar and Amir will play for their teams or not

Amir will return back to Essex after the fitness tests but think the ship has sailed for Zaman to play for Somerset thanks to the PCB :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 
Yes, awful all around. The purpose of domestics is to identify new talent. There would have been no harm in letting certain picks for the national side play out their overseas contracts.

The best thing is to have an annual domestic calendar, published well before the start of a season & better if it's fixed almost by date every year. If not, then players' overseas contract has to be prioritized, otherwise PAK players' sell value would fall drastically, which will have alarming consequences. Misbah, MoHa, Sami ... are playing, therefore not sure how much this'll help to find new talent, but domestic tournaments should be prioritized, without hurting players' external commitments.
 
It can be held in October like last year when Pak was playing WI in UAE and this time will be playing Srl. After all it takes around two days to complete the draft cermony.

Yes but in previous years the t20 cup has been used as a way of getting picked for PSL. If the draft is held before the tournament then I really do despair for the players. Very poor organisation from PCB- hopefully they delay the draft as otherwise it will be unfair.
 
I don't think draft will be held again.... they will replace players who might be on international duty with other players.
 
I don't think draft will be held again.... they will replace players who might be on international duty with other players.

I am talking about the PSL draft. Normally a good performance in t20 cup means you are more likely to be on the radar for PSL selection. However, if they do the PSL draft before the t20 cup concludes then it seems a little unfair on the players.
 
I am talking about the PSL draft. Normally a good performance in t20 cup means you are more likely to be on the radar for PSL selection. However, if they do the PSL draft before the t20 cup concludes then it seems a little unfair on the players.

Agreed but, most of the players selected in the national T20 teams are already on radar. Might be a problem for some players who are not that close on radar.

However, few young players like Shaheen Shah are going to be in emerging category and they will have a good chance.
 
LAHORE: Following the successful World XI tour of Pakistan for the revival of international cricket, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is facing new challenges regarding National T20 cup.

The domestic tournament, which was postponed due to the Independence Series, may face further delay due to expected tour of West Indies in November.

The T20 Cup was initially scheduled to be played in two parts from August 25 to 31 in Multan, and from September 4 to 10 in Faisalabad.

The players, who were busy in playing international leagues, were directed to report back to PCB for the domestic tournament, however it was postponed till November.

The T20 cup could once again be delayed as West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) President Dave Cameron has given a hint of allowing his team to tour Pakistan for three T20Is after visiting Pakistan during the Independence Cup. These matches are likely to be held in November.

Let it be known that Pakistan are to play Sri Lanka from September 28 to October 29 in a full-fledged series consisting two Tests, five one-day internationals (ODIs) and three Twenty20 internationals (T20Is).

http://www.brecorder.com/2017/09/18/369823/national-t20-cup-may-postpone-again/
 
Lol... PCB is making a joke of itself... They shud just cancel this, rather than making stupid decisions....
What is wrong in having international cricket and domestic cricket at the same time... this happens everywhere
 
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