Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]

[emranabbas]

Same here. Nothing beats the sight of the cult imploding. Not even AI can keep up with the cultish mentality and filth.

Are you still justifying this attack?

 

[Technics 1210]

So the cult have a new tactic! I knew it, Saffron terrorism was behind all of this!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Fake propaganda sarr, ISI must be behind, ajmal kasab was mastermind, he is islamist sarrrrr

One of two Bondi Beach attackers is an Indian, last visited Hyderabad in 2022: Indian officials

Indian national Sajid Akram, involved in Bondi Beach attack, last visited Hyderabad in 2022, say officials.

www.thehindu.com

Bondi beach shooter moved to Australia from Hyderabad in 1998, son Australian citizen by birth

Australian authorities sought details from India about the 'terrorist' duo. Sajid travelled to India at least thrice in 27 yrs, it is learnt. He was shot dead. Son Naveed taken to hospital.

theprint.in

Indian media confirms shooter was Indian from Hyderabad, Telangana.

 

[Rajdeep]

Check the first few replies to the thread from your esteemed colleague @Devadwal

Why didn't you ask him to simply condemn the terrorist attack without making any judgements? It's a silly premise anyway, the first question people will ask after a terror attack is "what was the motivation?"

There are some really asinine posts in this thread so far.

You cant simply condemn the attacks and don't speak the motivation behind it. Especially if its a regular occurrence. Just within last 3 months we had Manchester Synagogue attack, followed by Delhi Blast and now this. If we don't discuss the root cause, that will be dishonesty and we have all taken the oath while joining PP forum to only speak the truth. Putting the blame of it on India or Modi meeting Taliban is not only funny but LOL worthy.

Be Honest, if tomorrow, someone in India lynch a muslim for eating beef chanting Jai Shri Ram, will you just condemn and move on? Just for erecting a Messi statue, you guys dont miss an opportunity to take a pot shot at others religion.

 

[Rajdeep]

So mate have you moved on or still here to make this thread reach 1K?

You are the moderator mate. Lock the thread if its upsetting you so much. I am just a mere poster who is stating facts.

My suggestion will be to close this thread and discuss on more important topics like Indian lady showing tantrum in McDonalds for beef burger

 

[IronShield]

I am just here to enjoy the melt down and mental gymnastics of resident Indian right wingers, it's too HILARIOUS ....But unlike them won't cash in the latest revelations

@Devadwal back in denial step in the stages of grief....

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You are the moderator mate. Lock the thread if its upsetting you so much. I am just a mere poster who is stating facts.

My suggestion will be to close this thread and discuss on more important topics like Indian lady showing tantrum in McDonalds for beef burger

Actually mate, you are preaching what you yourself aren't following...my point. No doubt you were ready for some more bashing but bad for you he turned out to be one with Indian passport

 

[IronShield]

You are the moderator mate. Lock the thread if its upsetting you so much. I am just a mere poster who is stating facts.

My suggestion will be to close this thread and discuss on more important topics like Indian lady showing tantrum in McDonalds for beef burger

We don't need that when we can see your tantrum in this thread... Keep going

 

[RexRex]

You are the moderator mate. Lock the thread if its upsetting you so much. I am just a mere poster who is stating facts.

My suggestion will be to close this thread and discuss on more important topics like Indian lady showing tantrum in McDonalds for beef burger

Bald Eagle is busy deleting the posts of Indians. Very biased

 

[Rajdeep]

Actually mate, you are preaching what you yourself aren't following...my point. No doubt you were ready for some more bashing but bad for you he turned out to be one with Indian passport

The point remains, this attack has nothing to do with his country but was religious motivated. If you also cannot see it, you are a part of the problem too (not that it is much of a surprise).

Anjem Chaudhary has UK Passport, remember?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The point remains, this attack has nothing to do with his country but was religious motivated. If you also cannot see it, you are a part of the problem too (not that it is much of a surprise).

Anjem Chaudhary has UK Passport, remember?

Lol what anjem Chaudhary has to do with this thread, anyways condolences for your friends who were zooming in for PCT jersey for the perpetrator....hahah...and weren't you giving lectures to us that we shouldn't blame religions for such events as all of them preach peace?

If you are concerned about only extremist ideology, then yes it needs to be curbed all around the world

 

[IronShield]

Bald Eagle is busy deleting the posts of Indians. Very biased

As RandonAussie from the old days use to say .... Indians pair ro rahay hain

 

[RexRex]

As RandonAussie from the old days use to say .... Indians pair ro rahay hain

You joined in 2025, how do you know old-school RandomAussie .. who are u really, spit it out.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Makes me very sad that these Indians escaped from India and then unleashed mayhem on their host countries.

Meanwhile their co-nationalists and Indian media ran wild with links to Pakistan. Even semi-sensible posters like our @Bhaijaan wanted to vent at Pakistan and Pakistanis, putting the pain of the Jewish victims to the bottom and his own nationalistic grievances first.

Now they will, of course, change course and vent at Muslims in general.

Let’s not go soft on terrorism.

Anyone involved must face the full force of the law without exception. Strict accountability is the need of the hour and luckily we have PM Modi in charge of our country who will 100% take action against radical Islamists we promise this to the world. Terrorism in any form is unacceptable, and the response must be uncompromising.

PM Modi, CM Yogi, CM Fadnavis. HM Shah.
Please take over.
Spare no one.

 

[emranabbas]

It shouldn’t matter whether he was Indian or Pakistani. What matters is that he was Muslim. Are we really going to sweep this under the carpet just because he turned out to be Indian, and then conveniently shift the blame onto Hindus?

If that’s the case, it raises serious questions about our consistency, especially when we claim to care so deeply about Muslims in Kashmir, Gaza, and everywhere else in the world.

 

[RexRex]

There’s absolutely no justification for terrorism. These people are mentally sick if they think killing innocent civilians will get them some divine reward. Indians will use this as an opportunity to celebrate their “a-ha” moment but the fact is, these type of fanatics exist everywhere. Mass shootings happen, it’s not a new phenomenon. The motivation is very rarely religious beliefs. Islam and and Muslims are not responsible for this.

Mass shootings of all stripes do happen by mentally ill people but it can get amplified and energised by religious motivations. The way I see it .. martyrdom is a powerful religious incentive for unhappy, unemployed and mentally ill youth of muslim origin. It is something the community should be careful about what the term martyrdom in holy books mean. Youth and disaffected will have their own interpretations.

 

[Rana]

The way I see it .. martyrdom is a powerful religious incentive for unhappy, unemployed and mentally ill youth of muslim origin

Well then what was the motivation for the Al-Qaida masterminds who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks

 

[RexRex]

Well then what was the motivation for the Al-Qaida masterminds who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks

What does my post have to do with Al-Qaeda masterminds ? Al-Qaeda were proper hardcore jihadis.

 

[mazkhan]

Well its confirmed by phillipines sajid akram is an Indian national

 

[mazkhan]

This fake passport will exposed Pakistan here. This is not a normal attack but pakistan ISI sponsered attack'.

Ye fas gye Guru jyda chalaki karne ke chakkar main

No it has hallmarks of bhangi raw and mossad false flag to stop recognition of palestine by western goverments and portray zionists as victims

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Wait what, the Indians at it again?

Another Wanna be Wombat is on Over time I think!

These Hindutwa

The point remains, this attack has nothing to do with his country but was religious motivated. If you also cannot see it, you are a part of the problem too (not that it is much of a surprise).

Anjem Chaudhary has UK Passport, remember?

Your whataboutery symptoms are kicking in. Relax wanna be Tommy

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Mass shootings of all stripes do happen by mentally ill people but it can get amplified and energised by religious motivations. The way I see it .. martyrdom is a powerful religious incentive for unhappy, unemployed and mentally ill youth of muslim origin. It is something the community should be careful about what the term martyrdom in holy books mean. Youth and disaffected will have their own interpretations.

Yes it is.

In western countries a lot of the time these dudes are incels. Instead of being red pilled, they find ISIS.

 

[Technics 1210]

Another Wanna be Wombat is on Over time I think!

These Hindutwa

Your whataboutery symptoms are kicking in. Relax wanna be Tommy

The only thing worse than the Hindutva cult, is the Zionist cult.

 

[Theanonymousone]

Indians do take pride in nationalism. And this person being a Hyderabadi Muslim has put a shame on us in my view.

If thats the case, we need more measures to tackle the Islamic radicalization at home first. I said the same thing yesterday assuming him to be Pakistani. We need a huge crackdown on these spreading Jihadi mindset. Muslim religious institutions in India are almost untouchable due to their collective mob mentality. These madrassas or whatever needs to be kept in check and monitored to not let such radicalization happen in future.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Well its confirmed by phillipines sajid akram is an Indian national

Shout out to all Indians on pp who were accusing them as Pakistanis

 

[Rana]

What does my post have to do with Al-Qaeda masterminds ? Al-Qaeda were proper hardcore jihadis.

It shows you are clueless and don’t have the faintest of idea about the mindset of these guys who go on to do these heinous crimes.

Stick to what you know best, keep whitewashing your country’s security lapses by blaming Pakistan.

That’s your limit. Stay in it.

 

[Technics 1210]

It just hasn't been a good year for the cult - absolutely battered from all corners of humanity of late.

Long may it continue!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You cant simply condemn the attacks and don't speak the motivation behind it. Especially if its a regular occurrence. Just within last 3 months we had Manchester Synagogue attack, followed by Delhi Blast and now this. If we don't discuss the root cause, that will be dishonesty and we have all taken the oath while joining PP forum to only speak the truth. Putting the blame of it on India or Modi meeting Taliban is not only funny but LOL worthy.

Be Honest, if tomorrow, someone in India lynch a muslim for eating beef chanting Jai Shri Ram, will you just condemn and move on? Just for erecting a Messi statue, you guys dont miss an opportunity to take a pot shot at others religion.

That's what I said and now you are using my own words to backtrack on what I challenged you on. But when someone like me suggests a motive then you start attacking the poster without considering the logic.

Not only that, but you have failed to admit that it was your own compatriot who started the nationalistic point scoring. Take a stance and be consistent.

 

[RexRex]

It shows you are clueless and don’t have the faintest of idea about the mindset of these guys who go on to do these heinous crimes.

Stick to what you know best, keep whitewashing your country’s security lapses by blaming Pakistan.

That’s your limit. Stay in it.

Why don't you explain why I am clueless and what the mindset of these guys are ? I haven't seen you much outside the Cricket section so curious to know what you think. Will wait for a reply.

 

[Rana]

Why don't you explain why I am clueless and what the mindset of these guys are ? I haven't seen you much outside the Cricket section so curious to know what you think. Will wait for a reply.

Have you forgotten the pitai you and your little Mossad friends have suffered from me during Tandoor and the Iran war?

 

[Independent Observer]

No doubt you were ready for some more bashing but bad for you he turned out to be one with Indian passport

Just look at some of the poor sod's posts before the turn in events:

R

Post in thread 'Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]'

Dec 14, 2025

CBS News: The 24-year-old was identified as Naveed Akram, a Pakistani national based in Sydney, according to a U.S. intelligence briefing and a driver's license provided by Australian police.

Gunmen kill at least 15 in attack targeting Australia's Bondi Beach Jewish community Hanukkah celebration, officials say

At least 15 people were killed at a Jewish gathering on Australia's Bondi Beach, according to Australian government officials and police. One of two gunmen was also dead.

www.cbsnews.com

One need to question the mindset of these young Pakistanis. I mean Pakistan has nothing to do with Israel. They are not even part of the Arab world. Inside Pakistan, their own military crackdown on any pro Palestine protests. So wonder why some of these overseas Pakistanis take the path of extremism...

• Rajdeep

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R

Post in thread 'Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]'

Monday at 10:01 AM

Never thought it would be a Pakistani , why are they killing on behalf on Palestine arabs in an alien land

Why? Were you living under the rock for so long?

In Britain, they are regular offenders like the London Bridge attack in 2019.

• Rajdeep

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R

Post in thread 'Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]'

Monday at 11:24 AM

https://twitter.com/x/status/2000326700601905528

Any condemnation from proud Aussie opener Usman Khwaja yet?

#JustAsking

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[DeadlyVenom]

Indians do take pride in nationalism. And this person being a Hyderabadi Muslim has put a shame on us in my view.

If thats the case, we need more measures to tackle the Islamic radicalization at home first. I said the same thing yesterday assuming him to be Pakistani. We need a huge crackdown on these incels spreading Jihadi mindset. Muslim religious institutions in India are almost untouchable due to their collective mob mentality. These madrassas or whatever needs to be kept in check and monitored to not let such radicalization happen in future.

These people didn't really study in an Indian Madrassah. They were recruited online most likely and radicalised online. When Sajid left for Australia he married a white woman, he doesn't have the characteristics of a madrassah radicalised Jihadi.

So there isn't a link ( in this particular case at least) to say that they were trained in Indian institutions.

I think one of the biggest own goals scored in Indian politics and requires blame on BJP who gave Taliban Minister VIP tour of Madrassah where he declared that the Madrassah was Alma Mater of Taliban.

And Indian foreign ministry also voted alongside Taliban at the UN.

It is easy to lay the blame solely on the Madrassah system, but your government is happy holding hands with terrorists when it suits them too, just to try and get one over Pakistan. They did it at a time when Pakistan was reeling from civilians being kiled by Taliban sponsored militants.

 

[RexRex]

Have you forgotten the pitai you and your little Mossad friends have suffered from me during Tandoor and the Iran war?

Ah.. yes I remember that. I remember you spamming the Iran and Tandoor threads with a hundred or so tweets from anonymous accounts and then patting yourself on the back lol.

But tell my why I was wrong in this case. Curious to know your thoughts. I understand you are ahmadiyya muslim and have more nuanced opinions on such topics.

 

[Rana]

Ah.. yes I remember that. I remember you spamming the Iran and Tandoor threads with a hundred or so tweets from anonymous accounts and then patting yourself on the back lol.

But tell my why I was wrong in this case. Curious to know your thoughts. I understand you are ahmadiyya muslim and have more nuanced opinions on such topics.

Why did you take it personally when the Gay Club in Tel Aviv was bombed?

 

[IronShield]

You joined in 2025, how do you know old-school RandomAussie .. who are u really, spit it out.

Long time lurker

 

[Red-Indian]

Indians do take pride in nationalism. And this person being a Hyderabadi Muslim has put a shame on us in my view.

If thats the case, we need more measures to tackle the Islamic radicalization at home first. I said the same thing yesterday assuming him to be Pakistani. We need a huge crackdown on these spreading Jihadi mindset. Muslim religious institutions in India are almost untouchable due to their collective mob mentality. These madrassas or whatever needs to be kept in check and monitored to not let such radicalization happen in future.

You're right on the Madrassahs. They need major reform. There are states that have moved to classify those of them who don't follow a modern curriculum as non-schools but more states need to do that.

Religious education should be banned in any institution for it to qualify as a school. You can do your religious education at home or on the weekends at your local mosque/church/temple.

 

[emranabbas]

The only thing worse than the Hindutva cult, is the Zionist cult.

The PTI cult is equally bad One minute defending the naveed akram Once found out he's an indian then the narrative changes

 

[Technics 1210]

Someone start a GoFundMe page for the cult!

 

[IronShield]

Yeah no kidding, speak from your own perspective, it's 72 virgin time

In Islam, if you do wrong, which the pair have done here then you are hell bound.

In hinduism, if you do wrong, which the pair have done here then you will come back as a Dalit.

All I am saying is that as a hindu, you should speak from your perspective, why are you being so defensive about it.

 

[Romali_rotti]

In Islam, if you do wrong, which the pair have done here then you are hell bound.

In hinduism, if you do wrong, which the pair have done here then you will come back as a Dalit.

All I am saying is that as a hindu, you should speak from your perspective, why are you being so defensive about it.

Cause bruh, he is Allah's property we don't want that camel cowboy, why you being so defensive and abandoning the ummah..

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I am just here to enjoy the melt down and mental gymnastics of resident Indian right wingers, it's too HILARIOUS ....But unlike them won't cash in the latest revelations

What happened? What's the latest on this issue?

 

[Local.Dada]

His name is Sajid Akram( never heard such a Muslim last name in India) while he may have a Indian passport for now, I am sure the maulana or handler or whoever brainwashed him, there will always be some connection, so people eager to throw their ummah brother under the bus, I would suggest, hold your horses lol, it always comes back to you know who.

 

[RexRex]

Why did you take it personally when the Gay Club in Tel Aviv was bombed?

I know in your head you think this is a massive 'own' but gay jokes used to be funny maybe twenty years ago.

I keep asking you to explain why I was clueless in my earlier post. I am genuinely curious to know your thoughts on this.

Please Rana.

 

[Rana]

I know in your head you think this is a massive 'own' but gay jokes used to be funny maybe twenty years ago.

I skeep asking you to explain why I was clueless in my earlier post. I am genuinely curious to know your thoughts on this. Please Rana.

Why? Do you plan on getting stupid ideas?

 

[IronShield]

Cause bruh, he is Allah's property we don't want that camel cowboy, why you being so defensive and abandoning the ummah..

I know it's been very difficult few days for you on missing out the opportunity to spew hate, especially as you were just about to go full throttle. I understand your pain and anguish. May the almighty give you and your fellow sufferers (@Devadwal and @Rajdeep and @Local.Dada ) Sabr in this very difficult time.

 

[emranabbas]

His name is Sajid Akram( never heard such a Muslim last name in India) while he may have a Indian passport for now, I am sure the maulana or handler or whoever brainwashed him, there will always be some connection, so people eager to throw their ummah brother under the bus, I would suggest, hold your horses lol, it always comes back to you know who.

@Technics 1210 @KingKhanWC @Cpt. Rishwat

All for fighting for the Ummah and for Muslims in Palestine, Pakistan, and Kashmir while sitting uk but the moment a Muslim turns out to be from India, he’s thrown under the bus.

 

[RexRex]

Why? Do you plan on getting stupid ideas?

No stupid ideas from my end.

You accused me of being clueless, it's only good manners to explain why. Always happy to be corrected.

 

[psyoptica]

Mass shootings of all stripes do happen by mentally ill people but it can get amplified and energised by religious motivations. The way I see it .. martyrdom is a powerful religious incentive for unhappy, unemployed and mentally ill youth of muslim origin. It is something the community should be careful about what the term martyrdom in holy books mean. Youth and disaffected will have their own interpretations.

Don't conflate religion with extremist ideology. Majority of the Muslim world is peace loving and want nothing to do with terrorism and extremism. Youth driven to these extremist views and compelled to commit terrorist acts have the tendency to be brainwashed easily due to te underlying issues which you've correctly highlighted. There needs to be an effort to make this brand of religion least appealing to all sections of the soceity in order to stop radicalizing the youth. This requires a great deal of accountability from communities comprising of Muslims living in the West.

 

[Varun]

We talk a lot about how we ban dual citizenship, but equally - there are many folks even at C suite level who have a second passport of convenience. Obviously the technology to check whether they have disposed off the Indian passport isn't quite up there yet.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

His name is Sajid Akram( never heard such a Muslim last name in India) while he may have a Indian passport for now, I am sure the maulana or handler or whoever brainwashed him, there will always be some connection, so people eager to throw their ummah brother under the bus, I would suggest, hold your horses lol, it always comes back to you know who.

And I have never read anything this stupid.

Washington Sundar can be a name in India, but Sajid Akram can’t?

 

[IronShield]

@Technics 1210 @KingKhanWC @Cpt. Rishwat

All for fighting for the Ummah and for Muslims in Palestine, Pakistan, and Kashmir while sitting uk but the moment a Muslim turns out to be from India, he’s thrown under the bus.

Are you just clueless or are you having a hard time digesting that the perpetrators are Indian?

 

[Romali_rotti]

I know it's been very difficult few days for you on missing out the opportunity to spew hate, especially as you were just about to go full throttle. I understand your pain and anguish. May the almighty give you and your fellow sufferers (@Devadwal and @Rajdeep) Sabr in this very difficult time.

Bruh,

Thanks for understanding, it is a very difficult time for Indians now, I have always maintained Islam has wrecked the Indian sub continent and I have be proven correct. Look at what this Islamic, father son due have done, we will now be associated with the camel cowboys from Pakistan, Bangladesh for exporting islamic terrorosim

 

[RexRex]

@Technics 1210 @KingKhanWC @Cpt. Rishwat

All for fighting for the Ummah and for Muslims in Palestine, Pakistan, and Kashmir while sitting uk but the moment a Muslim turns out to be from India, he’s thrown under the bus.

That is sad to see, they are such paper tigers.

 

[IronShield]

The father is from Hyderabad India. He comes from an Indian military family!!

One of two Bondi Beach attackers is an Indian, last visited Hyderabad in 2022: Indian officials

Indian national Sajid Akram, involved in Bondi Beach attack, last visited Hyderabad in 2022, say officials.

www.thehindu.com

 

[Local.Dada]

And I have never read anything this stupid.

Washington Sundar can be a name in India, but Sajid Akram can’t?

Washington Sundar is a weird name but there is a story behind it, he was named after a person who helped out their family and Washington’s dad from financial and other crisis situation.

Akram seems to be a Punjabi Muslim last name. there are barely Punjabi Muslims in India leave alone Hyderabad

Anyway as I said he might be an Indian with full documentation unlike you , however there will always be some link to you know who when it comes to down to the actual act. I will grab my popcorn. Right now my Indian Muslim bros seem to be taking it up with Pakistanis, so will wait and watch

 

[emranabbas]

Are you just clueless or are you having a hard time digesting that the perpetrators are Indian?

Are you having hard time understanding they are muslims? If he was a Hindu then all you PTI supporters jumping up and down and celebrating would make sense

Terrorist is indian Muslim not indian rss Hindu

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What happened? What's the latest on this issue?

Brother you can also confirm this from Indian propag..... Factory

I

Post in thread 'Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]'

Tuesday at 1:13 PM

The father is from Hyderabad India. He comes from an Indian military family!!

One of two Bondi Beach attackers is an Indian, last visited Hyderabad in 2022: Indian officials

Indian national Sajid Akram, involved in Bondi Beach attack, last visited Hyderabad in 2022, say officials.

www.thehindu.com

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[Devadwal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2000893240040718801

 

[Technics 1210]

The father is from Hyderabad India. He comes from an Indian military family!!

One of two Bondi Beach attackers is an Indian, last visited Hyderabad in 2022: Indian officials

Indian national Sajid Akram, involved in Bondi Beach attack, last visited Hyderabad in 2022, say officials.

www.thehindu.com

Indian military? Explains it. Can't fly, cant shoot, can't run.

 

[Technics 1210]

Are you just clueless or are you having a hard time digesting that the perpetrators are Indian?

Diversion tactics from the cult.

I love this thread already.

Desi Wombats, Saffron Terrorism, and the Cult pretending to be Muslims - all exposed in a matter of pages.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Brother you can also confirm this from Indian propag..... Factory

I

Post in thread 'Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]'

Tuesday at 1:13 PM

The father is from Hyderabad India. He comes from an Indian military family!!

One of two Bondi Beach attackers is an Indian, last visited Hyderabad in 2022: Indian officials

Indian national Sajid Akram, involved in Bondi Beach attack, last visited Hyderabad in 2022, say officials.

www.thehindu.com

• IronShield

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Oh, that explains @Devadwal's sudden absence from this thread.

 

[Technics 1210]

The Swatsika brethren must be bricking it right now. Zios and the Cult - thought they could hit birds with one stone but instead the heat seeking false flag landed right on their backsides!

Meanwhile Muslim Hero in Australia is receiving the positive attention!

It's not even Xmas yet and this thread is the gift that keeps on giving!

 

[IronShield]

Are you having hard time understanding they are muslims? If he was a Hindu then all you PTI supporters jumping up and down and celebrating would make sense

Terrorist is indian Muslim not indian rss Hindu

How do you know they are muslims? The only facts that we know so far are that they are of Indian descent with muslim names. Muslim sounding names without being a Muslim can also do bad things too, you might want to check the Magdeburg market attack.

I know facts dont matter to you or any intelligible nuance (which I dont blame you for that, its not your fault), but wait till all facts emerge before making sweeping statements.

 

[RexRex]

Rana has disappeared from the thread after accusing me of being clueless and not even elaborating. Sad.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Just because they have Muslim names, people started accusing them as 'Pakistanis'. Look, from where they turned out to be.

 

[Ball Blazer]

The Swatsika brethren must be bricking it right now. Zios and the Cult - thought they could hit birds with one stone but instead the heat seeking false flag landed right on their backsides!

Meanwhile Muslim Hero in Australia is receiving the positive attention!

It's not even Xmas yet and this thread is the gift that keeps on giving!

So it shows that one person does not reflect the whole religion. There are good/bad people in each sect. Sad is that not everybody understands and blame the whole community for the wrongdoings of one person.

no one will hail the Muslims for the brave act of disarming the gunmen, but will blame whole Muslim community, disguising them as terrorists because of the two who are guilty.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Oh, that explains @Devadwal's sudden absence from this thread.

Uski Pakistan wali bat sach nahi hoi, so now he is preparing another propaganda to blame whole Muslim community in India. And then he talks about India mai minorities ko rights milty hain

 

[Technics 1210]

So it shows that one person does not reflect the whole religion. There are good/bad people in each sect. Sad is that not everybody understands and blame the whole community for the wrongdoings of one person.

no one will hail the Muslims for the brave act of disarming the gunmen, but will blame whole Muslim community, disguising them as terrorists because of the two who are guilty.

Critical thinking is near zero in society.

What this news has proven is the masses are brainwashed into a narrative and lack the mental capacity to think own their own. These Muppets are the same morons who try to champion freedom in all forms yet their minds are enslaved.

The good news is the Aussie media are pushing the Muslim hero in their media headlines.

 

[Romali_rotti]

no one will hail the Muslims for the brave act of disarming the gunmen,

I acknowledged the Arab custodian of the religion for what he did on this thread earlier.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Mass shootings of all stripes do happen by mentally ill people but it can get amplified and energised by religious motivations. The way I see it .. martyrdom is a powerful religious incentive for unhappy, unemployed and mentally ill youth of muslim origin. It is something the community should be careful about what the term martyrdom in holy books mean. Youth and disaffected will have their own interpretations.

Martydom in Islam has not traditionally been associated with attacking civilians with no end goal in mind. What would this achieve from an Islamic point of view? On the other hand, these sort of attacks can be motivated by politics when it suits a particular narrative to deflect criticism from a political leader. Throw enough money/extortion at individuals and you can persuade them to to more or less anything.

 

[bk19xsa]

And the audacity to tell someone else to ‘educate themselves’… lol.
Don’t you know how brutal and barbarous the Mughal rulers were? attacking other religion faiths, killing people and religious gurus, destroying temples, committing atrocities, raping women and heavily exploiting Hindus in the subcontinent?

Educate yourself about history before lecturing anyone about faith.

Do you know how vile and barbaric the Nandas or Mauryas were? How many religions and cultures were wiped out in Bharat just because of Vedic empires?

 

[Theanonymousone]

So it shows that one person does not reflect the whole religion. There are good/bad people in each sect. Sad is that not everybody understands and blame the whole community for the wrongdoings of one person.

no one will hail the Muslims for the brave act of disarming the gunmen, but will blame whole Muslim community, disguising them as terrorists because of the two who are guilty.

Many people have praised the brave and self-less act here. The only issue is the majority of these terror outfits come from one religion. Hence the issue.

It is wrong to band all the muslims together. But, hardly anyone introspects when people start showing extreme behaviors like praying by blocking roads, talking about Islam reaching every household or implementing Sharia law. Its the vent out anger that comes from these issues.

See no sane person blames all the religion but many muslims are silent for all these relatively extreme things and only respond when things take a drastic turn like these shootings. Not addressing the core issue.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[hamzie]

Indians struggling to cope with the fact that the guy is Indian after initially enjoying the fact that he was Pakistani

 

[bk19xsa]

Martydom in Islam has not traditionally been associated with attacking civilians with no end goal in mind. What would this achieve from an Islamic point of view? On the other hand, these sort of attacks can be motivated by politics when it suits a particular narrative to deflect criticism from a political leader. Throw enough money/extortion at individuals and you can persuade them to to more or less anything.

Intelligence agencies are some of the most evil things on the world.

They treat arming dissidents and rebels and lone wolves as necessary evil to protect the ideology and state at all costs but there is no line that they will not cross for their overall objectives.

It's also the way intelligence agencies survive and thrive. By getting attacks done they create enough chaos and the minimal change required to benefit them. It's always a risk/reward game for them and it has to be done in almost complete secrecy.

Politicians cannot do much without the backing of an Intelligence agency/agencies.

 

[RexRex]

Martydom in Islam has not traditionally been associated with attacking civilians with no end goal in mind.

That is your view and the traditional view; it might not seem that way to the shooter .. who probably thinks avenging the deaths of muslims in Gaza is a ticket for him to heaven.

On the other hand, these sort of attacks can be motivated by politics when it suits a particular narrative to deflect criticism from a political leader. Throw enough money/extortion at individuals and you can persuade them to to more or less anything.

You think the shooter was hired to deflect from the bad press Netanyahu has recieved ? That is an amazing level of cynical evil to impute to a person. Most people will find that hard to believe.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2000893240040718801

Thanks for the updates bhai.

Leikin what happened to your update that he was wearing 1999 Pak WC shirt in his ID Pic?

Your PP name should be changed to Fakenewswal, you are a one man propoganda factory. Even a nice guy like @Rajdeep has fallen under your propoganda spell.

 

[bk19xsa]

Wasn't a friend just a forum acquaintance - probably why we were able to talk openly. This stuff is impossibly difficult in person.

I agree and think you have to draw a line between
- Political terrorism (yes I call it that) where the ones themselves affected - the Irish, Sri Lankan Tamils, Kashmiris, Balochis, Palestinians are looking to fight back even if sometimes at misguided targets and
- Ideological terrorism...now mostly religious that too Muslim (though it's had other forms in the past) where people are murdering for a cause they've only heard about and been indoctrinated into

The first will always be with us to some extent. The second is the one that I believe is solvable and I'm glad you're seeing positive movement there.

Both are same.

 

[Marshland]

Martydom in Islam has not traditionally been associated with attacking civilians with no end goal in mind. What would this achieve from an Islamic point of view? On the other hand, these sort of attacks can be motivated by politics when it suits a particular narrative to deflect criticism from a political leader. Throw enough money/extortion at individuals and you can persuade them to to more or less anything.

These guys don't think like us mate. For them their holy book is the be all and end all and they don't care how many they kill in its name.

 

[Devadwal]

Thanks for the updates bhai.

Leikin what happened to your update that he was wearing 1999 Pak WC shirt in his ID Pic?

Your PP name should be changed to Fakenewswal, you are a one man propoganda factory. Even a nice guy like @Rajdeep has fallen under your propoganda spell.

Awww Pakistan propaganda factory found the voice after Muslim terrorist belongs to india.

This is normal day in pakistan where UN designate terrorist roaming freely.