Nearly 10,000 Troops Airlifted To Srinagar Amid Major Crackdown In J&K

[battler]

Srinagar: Amid a major crackdown on separatists in Jammu and Kashmir late last night, the Centre has sent hundred additional companies of paramilitary forces to the state. Yesterday's crackdown resulted in separatist Yasin Malik's arrest.
A notice from the Home Ministry in New Delhi late on Friday evening led to 100 additional companies of paramilitary soldiers being airlifted to Srinagar, where the Jammu and Kashmir police and existing security forces worked through the night rolling out their deployment plan for the next few days.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....crackdown-in-j-k-1998055?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

A very sad fact about Kashmir: India have approximately 600,000+ soldiers in J&K. (according to Schofield, Victoria (2003) [First published in 2000], Kashmir in Conflict, London and New York: I. B. Taurus & Co, ISBN 1860648983)

Kashmiri opponents to Indian rule maintain that India has stationed 600,000 Indian troops in what is the highest ratio of troops to civilian density in the world.

To expect stability and harmony with this much military presence is absurd and one can call it an invasion.

10,000 more will only add to further violence

 

[Madplayer]

There is a lot of panic and rush on the streets of srinagar. I am at lal chowk right now and people are buying essentials like cooking oil, rice and pulses for next couple of months. Petrol pumps are flooded and only petrol worth Rs.300 is being provided per vehicle such is the demand.

People are anticipating the removal of article 35A and if it happens it will be seen as an attempt to alter the demography of the state. all of Kashmir will be in utter chaos for the next few months.

 

[rhony]

There is a lot of panic and rush on the streets of srinagar. I am at lal chowk right now and people are buying essentials like cooking oil, rice and pulses for next couple of months. Petrol pumps are flooded and only petrol worth Rs.300 is being provided per vehicle such is the demand.

People are anticipating the removal of article 35A and if it happens it will be seen as an attempt to alter the demography of the state. all of Kashmir will be in utter chaos for the next few months.

Wow. Stay safe man. Keep us posted.

 

[Bhaijaan]

There is a lot of panic and rush on the streets of srinagar. I am at lal chowk right now and people are buying essentials like cooking oil, rice and pulses for next couple of months. Petrol pumps are flooded and only petrol worth Rs.300 is being provided per vehicle such is the demand.

People are anticipating the removal of article 35A and if it happens it will be seen as an attempt to alter the demography of the state. all of Kashmir will be in utter chaos for the next few months.

Our prayers are with you and people of Kashmir.

Stay safe.

I hope my army will not do silly things. Eliminating terror groups is fine but not at the expense of hurting civilians and making their life difficult.

 

[m.shah]

Wow. Stay safe man. Keep us posted.

Itz heard that even phone calling will be barred leave about posting stuff via online.

 

[m.shah]

Our prayers are with you and people of Kashmir.

Stay safe.

I hope my army will not do silly things. Eliminating terror groups is fine but not at the expense of hurting civilians and making their life difficult.

If the article is removed I feared many Kashmiris will be killed as there will be protests from kashmiris and your media will do anything to defend killings.

 

[Romali_rotti]

If the article is removed I feared many Kashmiris will be killed as there will be protests from kashmiris and your media will do anything to defend killings.

If you do violence protest and get killed that's on you. Every Indian must have the right to live and purchase land anywhere in India. Just like how you go to other parts of India for your education despite prolonging your anti India agenda.. 100% support the removal of Article 35A.

 

[rhony]

If you do violence protest and get killed that's on you. Every Indian must have the right to live and purchase land anywhere in India. Just like how you go to other parts of India for your education despite prolonging your anti India agenda.. 100% support the removal of Article 35A.

Supreme Court had quashed abrogation of article 370 last year. Even article 35 is difficult to remove. But to think of it, the timing couldn't be better.
J&K is under president's rule. There is no state government. There will not be much opposition from major political parties outside of Kashmir because of the public sentiment and also the upcoming elections. There is no opposition from Jammu where BJP rules the roost. The liberal community in India is afraid to speak anything against India or in favor of Kashmir after Phulwama.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Supreme Court had quashed abrogation of article 370 last year. Even article 35 is difficult to remove. But to think of it, the timing couldn't be better.
J&K is under president's rule. There is no state government. There will not be much opposition from major political parties outside of Kashmir because of the public sentiment and also the upcoming elections. There is no opposition from Jammu where BJP rules the roost. The liberal community in India is afraid to speak anything against India or in favor of Kashmir after Phulwama.

I hope they remove article 35A, the biggest joke I have heard in my life.. Time for rest of India to move in and settle in Kashmir. There will be some turbulence eventually however things will soon stabilise, it will be the end of terror soon it will be bye bye for ppl like Hafeez Saeed and Azhar etc... The major benefactor here is Pakistan, as they will finally give up on Kashmir and can focus on rebuilding themselves.... LETS GO, Fully Back Modi if he can pull this off...

 

[Bewal Express]

I hope they remove article 35A, the biggest joke I have heard in my life.. Time for rest of India to move in and settle in Kashmir. There will be some turbulence eventually however things will soon stabilise, it will be the end of terror soon it will be bye bye for ppl like Hafeez Saeed and Azhar etc... The major benefactor here is Pakistan, as they will finally give up on Kashmir and can focus on rebuilding themselves.... LETS GO, Fully Back Modi if he can pull this off...

So you want Kashmir taken over and the locals should accept it. Good luck with that.

 

[Romali_rotti]

So you want Kashmir taken over and the locals should accept it. Good luck with that.

Oh don't you worry, wait till the Kashmiri muslim peeps have a taste of ppl like Bihari's, they will soon live in harmony.


P.S. Bihari's are nothing like the Pandits

 

[Bewal Express]

Oh don't you worry, wait till the Kashmiri muslim peeps have a taste of ppl like Bihari's, they will soon live in harmony.


P.S. Bihari's are nothing like the Pandits

So you want violence- and when they attack you call them millitants. When a million Indians are scared against a few 1000, Mujahaddin, you can guess the rest.

 

[Azzurri]

Oh don't you worry, wait till the Kashmiri muslim peeps have a taste of ppl like Bihari's, they will soon live in harmony.


P.S. Bihari's are nothing like the Pandits

Naive thinking. It might trigger more attacks on Indian army and perhaps in other parts of India as well. I hope sanity prevails

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

If the article is removed I feared many Kashmiris will be killed as there will be protests from kashmiris and your media will do anything to defend killings.

Stay safe man.

Thoughts and prayers.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Always advocated removal of article 35A. Just like Kashmiris can live anywhere in India....rest Indians should be allowed to reside in Kashmir as well. Its narrow mindset of the people of Kashmir that they dont allow anyone to buy land in the valley.
#SupportRemovalOf35A

 

[Hornbill]

If a man is a permanent
resident of J&K who marries
outside the state, he can bring
his wife home. Also, his wife is
entitled to the Permanent
Resident Certificate (PRC) and
all ‘privileges’ it entails.
Children born from the wife
will also get the PRC rights in
J&K without any hassle.
If a woman of J&K marries
outside the state, she cannot
settle in the state even if the
circumstances demand so. Her
husband cannot get the PRC,
hence none of the associated
benefits. This means she is
virtually forced to leave the
state.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/n...women-who-marry-outside-the-state/374080.html

These kind of discriminatory laws should be abolished

 

[Romali_rotti]

If a man is a permanent
resident of J&K who marries
outside the state, he can bring
his wife home. Also, his wife is
entitled to the Permanent
Resident Certificate (PRC) and
all ‘privileges’ it entails.
Children born from the wife
will also get the PRC rights in
J&K without any hassle.
If a woman of J&K marries
outside the state, she cannot
settle in the state even if the
circumstances demand so. Her
husband cannot get the PRC,
hence none of the associated
benefits. This means she is
virtually forced to leave the
state.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/n...women-who-marry-outside-the-state/374080.html

These kind of discriminatory laws should be abolished

Absolutely, lets CRUSH this law.... Stay united...

 

[Canford Cliffs]

If a man is a permanent
resident of J&K who marries
outside the state, he can bring
his wife home. Also, his wife is
entitled to the Permanent
Resident Certificate (PRC) and
all ‘privileges’ it entails.
Children born from the wife
will also get the PRC rights in
J&K without any hassle.
If a woman of J&K marries
outside the state, she cannot
settle in the state even if the
circumstances demand so. Her
husband cannot get the PRC,
hence none of the associated
benefits. This means she is
virtually forced to leave the
state.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/n...women-who-marry-outside-the-state/374080.html

These kind of discriminatory laws should be abolished

Pathetic law. And people supporting it, really?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Naive thinking. It might trigger more attacks on Indian army and perhaps in other parts of India as well. I hope sanity prevails

A handful of Kashmiri's wont be able to do anything against a giant population settlement in Kashmir from rest of India. You Pakistani lot just need to forget Kashmir, it is not yours, it will not be yours, and it will not be not India's. Worry about rebuilding your country, currently your country is not taken seriously in the international arena, you barely have any money, taking debts from just about any country that can offer it to you. I say this in the best interest, Kashmir is not for you to worry about, stop using Kashmiri's as pawns and ruining their lives...

 

[khiska]

A handful of Kashmiri's wont be able to do anything against a giant population settlement in Kashmir from rest of India. You Pakistani lot just need to forget Kashmir, it is not yours, it will not be yours, and it will not be not India's. Worry about rebuilding your country, currently your country is not taken seriously in the international arena, you barely have any money, taking debts from just about any country that can offer it to you. I say this in the best interest, Kashmir is not for you to worry about, stop using Kashmiri's as pawns and ruining their lives...

Thanks bud, we (Pakistan) have taken up your suggestion/advice/action plan. We will be on our way, enjoy . You won't be hearing the word "Kashmir" "cashmere" or any other similar sounding words from any one in Pakistan or Pakistanis settled elsewhere #KeyboardWarriorEgoSatisfied

 

[Hornbill]

Absolutely, lets CRUSH this law.... Stay united...

Pathetic law. And people supporting it, really?

This law is applicable to those pandits ladies who left JK fearing persecution

 

[Romali_rotti]

Thanks bud, we (Pakistan) have taken up your suggestion/advice/action plan. We will be on our way, enjoy . You won't be hearing the word "Kashmir" "cashmere" or any other similar sounding words from any one in Pakistan or Pakistanis settled elsewhere �� �� #KeyboardWarriorEgoSatisfied

Finally, I was starting the think the world was flat all this time when it comes to Pakistanis and Kashmir, it may actually be becoming round

 

[IAJ]

There is a lot of panic and rush on the streets of srinagar. I am at lal chowk right now and people are buying essentials like cooking oil, rice and pulses for next couple of months. Petrol pumps are flooded and only petrol worth Rs.300 is being provided per vehicle such is the demand.

People are anticipating the removal of article 35A and if it happens it will be seen as an attempt to alter the demography of the state. all of Kashmir will be in utter chaos for the next few months.

Bro, Mohra Kampla, do you know how situation is there?

 

[boomboomcheema]

If a man is a permanent
resident of J&K who marries
outside the state, he can bring
his wife home. Also, his wife is
entitled to the Permanent
Resident Certificate (PRC) and
all ‘privileges’ it entails.
Children born from the wife
will also get the PRC rights in
J&K without any hassle.
If a woman of J&K marries
outside the state, she cannot
settle in the state even if the
circumstances demand so. Her
husband cannot get the PRC,
hence none of the associated
benefits. This means she is
virtually forced to leave the
state.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/n...women-who-marry-outside-the-state/374080.html

These kind of discriminatory laws should be abolished

Keep your feminist and liberal agendas out of J & K , majority of the people from all communities in J & K, men and women support this law.

Even The hindus in Jammu will turn anti- Indian if outsiders are settled into the state.

 

[Manager101]

Human history is cruel and oppressive, there was a time when natives of America were flooded by English colonizers, they killed majority of Native Americans and settled their own people. The Natives fought till their last breath but Alas, they lost due to inferior weapons.

Shamlessly the race of colonisers are calling themselves Americans now. Human history is filled with this filth and massacre.

There is nothing to be proud of been Human. Shame on all of us who are power and land hungry.

Let the Natives live in peace around the world.

 

[Bilal7]

If you do violence protest and get killed that's on you. Every Indian must have the right to live and purchase land anywhere in India. Just like how you go to other parts of India for your education despite prolonging your anti India agenda.. 100% support the removal of Article 35A.

Keep your hands off other people's lands because, as you said yourself, if anyone gets killed doing so, it will be on them.

The BJP keeps shooting itself in the foot. This will only beget more violence and more "jawans" will leave J&K in bodybags.

 

[slipcatch]

If close to million occupying army couldn’t do much then what can another 10,000 do to stop people protesting and speaking against occupying army?

Those who aren’t afraid of 1 million occupying army another 10,000 won’t make much of a difference.

The ignorant army and Indian who believe that can stop them with a bullet .

 

[Romali_rotti]

Even The hindus in Jammu will turn anti- Indian if outsiders are settled into the state.

lol ), Oh trust me, I am sure they are well aware of the genocide the Kashmiri Muslims did to the Pandits, they will take anything over a majority muslim control.

 

[Bilal7]

lol ), Oh trust me, I am sure they are well aware of the genocide the Kashmiri Muslims did to the Pandits, they will take anything over a majority muslim control.

I would love it if even more Muslims move into Kashmir and this plan backfires, lol. What makes you think Hindus will move there in droves when, according to your delusions, there was a genocide against the pandits?

 

[Madplayer]

lol ), Oh trust me, I am sure they are well aware of the genocide the Kashmiri Muslims did to the Pandits, they will take anything over a majority muslim control.

People in Jammu and Ladakh oppose abrogation of Article 35A

https://kmsnews.org/news/2017/08/18/people-in-jammu-and-ladakh-oppose-abrogation-of-article-35a/

Your agenda driven, communal and illogical posts are a disgrace to this forum.

 

[m.shah]

lol ), Oh trust me, I am sure they are well aware of the genocide the Kashmiri Muslims did to the Pandits, they will take anything over a majority muslim control.

You post such a illogical stuff that it is irrelevant to discuss things with you. You army can't move freely here without vehicles and you are dreaming that you will come here and settle here and take control of our kashmir. Lol good luck with that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Supreme Court had quashed abrogation of article 370 last year. Even article 35 is difficult to remove. But to think of it, the timing couldn't be better.
J&K is under president's rule. There is no state government. There will not be much opposition from major political parties outside of Kashmir because of the public sentiment and also the upcoming elections. There is no opposition from Jammu where BJP rules the roost. The liberal community in India is afraid to speak anything against India or in favor of Kashmir after Phulwama.

Can you link me to a source which says Supreme Court of India quashed aborgation of article 370?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Keep your feminist and liberal agendas out of J & K , majority of the people from all communities in J & K, men and women support this law.

Even The hindus in Jammu will turn anti- Indian if outsiders are settled into the state.

Let us handle it. Hindus are the victims of this law.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I would love it if even more Muslims move into Kashmir and this plan backfires, lol. What makes you think Hindus will move there in droves when, according to your delusions, there was a genocide against the pandits?

Muslims from other parts of India can move there no issues. All Indians should be allowed to move to Kashmir.

 

[cricketjoshila]

35A should be history next week. I have hope.

 

[Hornbill]

Keep your feminist and liberal agendas out of J & K , majority of the people from all communities in J & K, men and women support this law.

Even The hindus in Jammu will turn anti- Indian if outsiders are settled into the state.

Who cares supreme court will abolish antiwomen laws be it against women of kerala or Kashmir.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Oh don't you worry, wait till the Kashmiri muslim peeps have a taste of ppl like Bihari's, they will soon live in harmony.


P.S. Bihari's are nothing like the Pandits

I am sure the Kashmiris will treat those biharis like shiv Sina goons used to do with biharis in maharashtra.

 

[Bubby]

I am sure the Kashmiris will treat those biharis like shiv Sina goons used to do with biharis in maharashtra.

That is our internal matter and besides when you guys have tried to change ur status on gilgit baltistan, Pakistan should be last one to talk about this issue.

 

[rhony]

35A should be history next week. I have hope.

What's the point of 370 if the most important element of property rights is taken away. SC has been rock solid about 370 that it can't be abrogated. Why is 35 a in danger?

 

[slipcatch]

Muslims from other parts of India can move there no issues. All Indians should be allowed to move to Kashmir.

Internet Indian soldier, when are you moving with your expensive toys?

Or you just want the poor Indian soldiers who are served only one meal a day and poor Indians to move there?

 

[slipcatch]

No Bhakth will be moving to Kashmir, they are sher in their own backyard.

It is a wet dream of Bhakths.

 

[rhony]

Ambani will buy a billion dollars worth of land to begin with. It will be very expensive for a normal person to buy any land in a few years. Kashmiris will sell their land for prosperity and the rich will will keep buying. That's the log con.
People here are thinking small.

 

[rhony]

No Bhakth will be moving to Kashmir, they are sher in their own backyard.

It is a wet dream of Bhakths.

Change in demographics is not an urgent priority. There will be no plebiscite anyway. It's the land that matters. Indian rich will load up on the land and slowly India will start secured settlements like in Palestine

 

[Pakistanian]

If you do violence protest and get killed that's on you. Every Indian must have the right to live and purchase land anywhere in India. Just like how you go to other parts of India for your education despite prolonging your anti India agenda.. 100% support the removal of Article 35A.

That is not true, you don't have a right. Every state acceded to India for different reasons, you're only entitled to whatever was in the agreement between Kashmir and India.

 

[Pakistanian]

A handful of Kashmiri's wont be able to do anything against a giant population settlement in Kashmir from rest of India.

Settling millions of people without jobs, without the resources to support a community is a terrible idea and the add the fact that the migrants won't know the language or culture of the region, that's just a recipe for disaster.

 

[Pakistanian]

Change in demographics is not an urgent priority. There will be no plebiscite anyway. It's the land that matters. Indian rich will load up on the land and slowly India will start secured settlements like in Palestine

I take it that you'll be moving from chicago? the only people that will settling there are poor people from india, the rich and middle class won't be giving up their jobs and lives just to live in a cold unfamiliar land.

 

[waheed_sofi]

It's impossible to repeal Article 35A ! It cannot happen and will not happen.

Anyone having slightest idea about the structure of this article understand that it's not an addition to article 370 but an endorsement to it.

Furthermore, Article 35A is only a clarificatory provision and itself does not confer any special power. The order has also been used to override the provisions of the State Constitution. If the said article is scrapped, all the 41 subsequent Presidential orders may then become susceptible to legal challenges. The residents of Jammu and Kashmir were deemed as Indian citizens through these Presidential Orders. Presidential Orders were used to extend 94 out of 97 entries in the Union List as well as to 260 out of 395 Articles of the Indian Constitution to the State and even to impose Central rule in Jammu and Kashmir. Thus, Article 35A has not only a constitutional or legal issue, it has larger socioeconomic and political issue. If Article 35A is removed, it could mean the snapping of a fragile pact between the Centre and the state, and the end of the road for a certain politics in Kashmir. To be sure, Article 35A protects the demographic status of the Jammu and Kashmir in its prescribed constitutional form.

 

[waheed_sofi]

Can you link me to a source which says Supreme Court of India quashed aborgation of article 370?

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-...preme-court/story-wNb5Bz0EOVIDU4NmRn537J.html

 

[rhony]

I take it that you'll be moving from chicago? the only people that will settling there are poor people from india, the rich and middle class won't be giving up their jobs and lives just to live in a cold unfamiliar land.

Lol. I ain't eligible. It's not about living there dude. It's about ownership. As I said, it's strategic.

 

[rhony]

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-...preme-court/story-wNb5Bz0EOVIDU4NmRn537J.html

Yep. This is what I read too.

 

[slipcatch]

Change in demographics is not an urgent priority. There will be no plebiscite anyway. It's the land that matters. Indian rich will load up on the land and slowly India will start secured settlements like in Palestine

Rich of India aren’t moving, they will talk to appease the galleries.

What you are suggesting will take generations of mass murdering, demolition of house, infrastructure, and permanent militarization of the region.

Kashmir isn’t Palestine where they do not have support from any Arab country and India isn’t Israel where they get impunity to commit genocide.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What's the point of 370 if the most important element of property rights is taken away. SC has been rock solid about 370 that it can't be abrogated. Why is 35 a in danger?

Can you link me to a source where SC says Article 370 cant be abrogated?

 

[rhony]

Can you link me to a source where SC says Article 370 cant be abrogated?

SC says 370 is permanent.

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-...preme-court/story-wNb5Bz0EOVIDU4NmRn537J.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-...preme-court/story-wNb5Bz0EOVIDU4NmRn537J.html

Please read the whole article. It was regarding a petition that said that article 370 should by itself lapse as it was a temporary provision. The SC in its judgement said that since the article was not abrogated in 1956 it has now acquired a permanent status like other articles.

Nowhere does it say that the Parliament cannot by the means of a constitutional amendment remove it.

 

[rhony]

Rich of India aren’t moving, they will talk to appease the galleries.

What you are suggesting will take generations of mass murdering, demolition of house, infrastructure, and permanent militarization of the region.

Kashmir isn’t Palestine where they do not have support from any Arab country and India isn’t Israel where they get impunity to commit genocide.

Whose support do Kashmiris have internationally? Don't say Pakistan because it doesn't matter much.
Rich of India will buy land in the name of investment. Dude, this is a common trick in history where locals are forced to sell their land. India is not in a hurry. They don't need to commit genocide either.

 

[cricketjoshila]

SC says 370 is permanent.

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-...preme-court/story-wNb5Bz0EOVIDU4NmRn537J.html

Read my post above.

 

[Slim]

If you do violence protest and get killed that's on you. Every Indian must have the right to live and purchase land anywhere in India. Just like how you go to other parts of India for your education despite prolonging your anti India agenda.. 100% support the removal of Article 35A.

Going full Israel - being the true trash you lot always wanted to be.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That is not true, you don't have a right. Every state acceded to India for different reasons, you're only entitled to whatever was in the agreement between Kashmir and India.

You will not decide the right.

 

[rhony]

Please read the whole article. It was regarding a petition that said that article 370 should by itself lapse as it was a temporary provision. The SC in its judgement said that since the article was not abrogated in 1956 it has now acquired a permanent status like other articles.

Nowhere does it say that the Parliament cannot by the means of a constitutional amendment remove it.

I get what you are saying now. However, since the sole authority of abrogating 370 was the constituent assembly and because that assembly doesn't exist, no one has the authority to do it. That's the argument that's been floated around.

 

[Bewal Express]

Whose support do Kashmiris have internationally? Don't say Pakistan because it doesn't matter much.
Rich of India will buy land in the name of investment. Dude, this is a common trick in history where locals are forced to sell their land. India is not in a hurry. They don't need to commit genocide either.

So if PK support doesn't matter much, then why are you Indians blaming PK, surely you would be control by now?

 

[rhony]

So if PK support doesn't matter much, then why are you Indians blaming PK, surely you would be control by now?

I blamed Pakistan for only two things. You can verify. First is Pakistan occupying Kashmir initially there by forcing Raja to accede to India. Second is Pak staying in Kashmir and there by not allowing the process of plebiscite to take place.

The reason why I said Pak's support doesn't matter is because of Pak's standing in United Nations. Only a super power can halt this. Also, Pakistan cannot take this to the UN because Pak is a signatory to a treaty which says this is a bilateral issue. Third, Pak will not wage a nuclear war over Kashmir.

 

[Bewal Express]

I blamed Pakistan for only two things. You can verify. First is Pakistan occupying Kashmir initially there by forcing Raja to accede to India. Second is Pak staying in Kashmir and there by not allowing the process of plebiscite to take place.

The reason why I said Pak's support doesn't matter is because of Pak's standing in United Nations. Only a super power can halt this. Also, Pakistan cannot take this to the UN because Pak is a signatory to a treaty which says this is a bilateral issue. Third, Pak will not wage a nuclear war over Kashmir.

The majority muslim areas were given to PK by the partition settlement, Kashmir was part of PK. As far as PK occupying Kashmir stopping a referendum, well you know that's not the reason. The Indians were never going to hold plebiscite, they know they would lose and if you were honest, you would know that.
I don't think PK supporting them matters, the 1000 or so Mujahaddin seem be enough for the 1/2mn troops.

 

[rhony]

The majority muslim areas were given to PK by the partition settlement, Kashmir was part of PK. As far as PK occupying Kashmir stopping a referendum, well you know that's not the reason. The Indians were never going to hold plebiscite, they know they would lose and if you were honest, you would know that.
I don't think PK supporting them matters, the 1000 or so Mujahaddin seem be enough for the 1/2mn troops.

Yes I understand the sentiments. However my point of view is purely technical and from the perspective of law. As far as 1000 Mujahideen goes, we just saw the largest congregation of Mujahideen in history, ISIS destroyed in a few years. It's not a big deal. They will be decimated eventually.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hmmm... I thought the Indian position was that this was a terrorist attack orchestrated from Pakistan and not a local uprising? Why would you need 10,000 EXTRA troops to counter a foreign intel outfit?

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes I understand the sentiments. However my point of view is purely technical and from the perspective of law. As far as 1000 Mujahideen goes, we just saw the largest congregation of Mujahideen in history, ISIS destroyed in a few years. It's not a big deal. They will be decimated eventually.

Isis weren't Mujahaddin, they were morons brought up on the internet. The real Mujahaddin fight oppression, these tools were used by Bathists and Israelis.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

I don't understand why Pakistanis would be so curious about law Indian govt wants to implement in India. We are a democracy and its a farce that a draconian law like 35A is still in practice in the worlds largest democracy. Ofcourse Congress is to blame for it but now with a nationalistic government sitting in Delhi, its time to get rid of this law.

Democracy meaning, every citizen of the country irrespective of caste, sex or religion has the right to live anywhere and do anything under the law. There is no place for 35A in a vibrant democracy like India. We trust Modi ji to abolish this law and also to bring uniform civil code. Few ignorant souls may cry or protest but in a long run, it will reap benefits.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I get what you are saying now. However, since the sole authority of abrogating 370 was the constituent assembly and because that assembly doesn't exist, no one has the authority to do it. That's the argument that's been floated around.

The parliament will first pass a amendment removing the constituent assembly authority.

Then by another amendment remove the article 370.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes I understand the sentiments. However my point of view is purely technical and from the perspective of law. As far as 1000 Mujahideen goes, we just saw the largest congregation of Mujahideen in history, ISIS destroyed in a few years. It's not a big deal. They will be decimated eventually.

Didn't the Soviets think the same way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The majority muslim areas were given to PK by the partition settlement, Kashmir was part of PK. As far as PK occupying Kashmir stopping a referendum, well you know that's not the reason. The Indians were never going to hold plebiscite, they know they would lose and if you were honest, you would know that.
I don't think PK supporting them matters, the 1000 or so Mujahaddin seem be enough for the 1/2mn troops.

The partition agreement didnot give Pakistan Kashmir. It was a sovereign country under its own king, Pakistan invaded it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Didn't the Soviets think the same way.

40% of population and Jammu and Leh dont have anything to do with these separatists.

 

[ahmedzee]

Why didn’t they airlift the Troops on feb 14? Why were they in a bus? Something fishy about that situation isn’t it ?

Also in regards to article 35A, unlike the Chinese, a common Indian is a wuss! Won’t go to Kashmir to live/relocate.

 

[rhony]

Didn't the Soviets think the same way.

Soviets in Afghanistan was invasion into a new territory. Indian army has been in Kashmir for decades. Can't compare. Also, Afghanistan had sophisticated weaponry including tanks and a steady supply of ammunition from Americans. Kashmiris don't.

 

[rhony]

Why didn’t they airlift the Troops on feb 14? Why were they in a bus? Something fishy about that situation isn’t it ?

Also in regards to article 35A, unlike the Chinese, a common Indian is a wuss! Won’t go to Kashmir to live/relocate.

Wuss or not doesn't matter one bit. Thousands of Kashmiris paying rent to Ambani is what India will go for in the long run. Next step is to settle Army and ex army personnel in Kashmir. Then come the Pandits and their extended families. All of these settlements in secured developed areas while Kashmir core will be ghettoed further. You seem to underestimate what a billion people with considerable resources can do if they have access to a land they've been eyeing for decades.

 

[Bewal Express]

Soviets in Afghanistan was invasion into a new territory. Indian army has been in Kashmir for decades. Can't compare. Also, Afghanistan had sophisticated weaponry including tanks and a steady supply of ammunition from Americans. Kashmiris don't.

Both were /are oppressors. The Indians have 1/2mn troops to oppress, and history shows that they will lose.

 

[rhony]

The parliament will first pass a amendment removing the constituent assembly authority.

Then by another amendment remove the article 370.

That's where it gets muddled. From the sources I read, parliament doesn't have the authority in this case. It's only the prerogative of constituent assembly to amend or abrogate 370 and they don't exist.

 

[rhony]

Both were /are oppressors. The Indians have 1/2mn troops to oppress, and history shows that they will lose.

You are right. History shows that oppressors don't last long. But, the oppressed always had the backing of a bunch of nations, super powers or even the UN to fight for their cause. In this case, Western world doesn't think India as the oppressor. Infact India always postures itself as one of the biggest victims of terrorism. Indians have changed the narrative of Kashmir from freedom struggle to a religious extremism and terrorism. That's where the Indians get a free pass and time to sort this mess.

 

[Manager101]

The modern world is worst for the oppressed, they are left alone on their own, while all current super powers are greedy and filthy rich.

And the so called enlightened one consider this modern age as the best one. Well, I think this is the era of hypocrites.

 

[Bewal Express]

You are right. History shows that oppressors don't last long. But, the oppressed always had the backing of a bunch of nations, super powers or even the UN to fight for their cause. In this case, Western world doesn't think India as the oppressor. Infact India always postures itself as one of the biggest victims of terrorism. Indians have changed the narrative of Kashmir from freedom struggle to a religious extremism and terrorism. That's where the Indians get a free pass and time to sort this mess.

Western countries change with the wind, look at the Americans sudden change in attitude towards PK. You are also assuming that the Western World will always be arbiters, they won't,the future is not linear, variables are always changing and whether it's years, or decades, Kashmir will be free.

 

[rhony]

Western countries change with the wind, look at the Americans sudden change in attitude towards PK. You are also assuming that the Western World will always be arbiters, they won't,the future is not linear, variables are always changing and whether it's years, or decades, Kashmir will be free.

Western world runs on trade and money. India is projected to be a big player in it. Until India maintains it's relevancy with economic growth and being the largest democracy of the world, nothing will happen. History shows us that arbitration is mandatory in assymmetric warfare. Kashmiris are no match to Indian army one on one. There are no stakes in this for the Western world.