New draft ideas

[therealAB]

Four ideas:
1. 1 player a decade 1900's-2010's, 1910's, 40's merged test
2. 2 players a decade 60's -00's, 1 from 10's test
3. Current players only test
4. 2000's players only test (by debut or retirement, unsure)
5. Cap total tests played for team @ a certain amount, maybe 800

Thoughts
[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION], [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION], [MENTION=134789]maddgenius[/MENTION], [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

 

[Thunderbolt14]

I love 4 — by debut in the 2000s

I think it would be a nice challenge to constrain ourselves to recent players. Some obvious picks like McGrath and Murali are out of the equation this way too so there will be a greater focus on being creative with your bowling. Same for batting. It would be similar to 3, current players only but a little bit more fun since we can all agree that current players aren’t really as great at tests aside from India, New Zealand, and Australia.

1,2 are a little too challenging imo. Maybe we can do that one or two drafts later.

5 is fun.

Other ideas:
-t20 draft (really want to do this next as we’ve done Test and ODI)
-players with less than 80 test matches (variation on 5)

 

[AFM]

How about a Test draft in which each round players can only pick from one of the Test playing nations?

Eg:
Round 1 - New Zealand
Round 2 - Pakistan
Round 3 - Australia
Round 4 - Bangladesh
Round 5 - Ireland + Afghanistan
Round 6 - Zimbabwe
Round 7 - West Indies
Round 8 - India
Round 9 - England
Round 10 - South Africa
Round 11 - Sri Lanka

 

[Thunderbolt14]

How about a Test draft in which each round players can only pick from one of the Test playing nations?

Eg:
Round 1 - New Zealand
Round 2 - Pakistan
Round 3 - Australia
Round 4 - Bangladesh
Round 5 - Ireland + Afghanistan
Round 6 - Zimbabwe
Round 7 - West Indies
Round 8 - India
Round 9 - England
Round 10 - South Africa
Round 11 - Sri Lanka

I like this

 

[maddgenius]

How about a Test draft in which each round players can only pick from one of the Test playing nations?

Eg:
Round 1 - New Zealand
Round 2 - Pakistan
Round 3 - Australia
Round 4 - Bangladesh
Round 5 - Ireland + Afghanistan
Round 6 - Zimbabwe
Round 7 - West Indies
Round 8 - India
Round 9 - England
Round 10 - South Africa
Round 11 - Sri Lanka

Would be really hard to pick 11 test players from Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland+Afghanistan

You were part of the draft [MENTION=132270]SL_Fan[/MENTION] organised, right?

We had a budget and players prices were according to the batting and bowling average range

For Batsmen:

Avg: 60+ - 10 points
50-60 - 9 points
45-50 - 8 points

Something like that. It would add another dimension to the drafts and it simply won't be the case of picking best available players first. Value for money would also need to be considered. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Would be really hard to pick 11 test players from Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland+Afghanistan

You were part of the draft [MENTION=132270]SL_Fan[/MENTION] organised, right?

We had a budget and players prices were according to the batting and bowling average range

For Batsmen:

Avg: 60+ - 10 points
50-60 - 9 points
45-50 - 8 points

Something like that. It would add another dimension to the drafts and it simply won't be the case of picking best available players first. Value for money would also need to be considered. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]

I like this yeah. Let’s do this as the next draft. And make it T20 format. It would feel like an IPL auction which would be fun

 

[Moh@n]

[MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION], letting you know in advance. Please count me IN for the next draft.

 

[last_knight]

Go for a World Cup draft.
This one hasn't been done in past.

 

[ahmadharis1]

How about an auction system? We each start with a set amount and we can do another all time Test or ODI draft.

 

[last_knight]

How about an auction system? We each start with a set amount and we can do another all time Test or ODI draft.

Interesting but will take very long time. Multiple captains Will have to bid for 250+ Players pool.

 

[therealAB]

How about a Test draft in which each round players can only pick from one of the Test playing nations?

Eg:
Round 1 - New Zealand
Round 2 - Pakistan
Round 3 - Australia
Round 4 - Bangladesh
Round 5 - Ireland + Afghanistan
Round 6 - Zimbabwe
Round 7 - West Indies
Round 8 - India
Round 9 - England
Round 10 - South Africa
Round 11 - Sri Lanka

Very skewed IMO towards order. Difference between Flower and the 11th best Zim batsmen is so much

 

[therealAB]

Would be really hard to pick 11 test players from Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland+Afghanistan

You were part of the draft [MENTION=132270]SL_Fan[/MENTION] organised, right?

We had a budget and players prices were according to the batting and bowling average range

For Batsmen:

Avg: 60+ - 10 points
50-60 - 9 points
45-50 - 8 points

Something like that. It would add another dimension to the drafts and it simply won't be the case of picking best available players first. Value for money would also need to be considered. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]

Like that idea, similar to the cap test draft in that their is a budget. A cap of total runs scored/total wickets taken could also be implemented

Will wait for a few more votes before deciding on which one, leading towards yours or just the 2000's

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Very skewed IMO towards order. Difference between Flower and the 11th best Zim batsmen is so much

We can lump Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, and Ireland all together. Round 11 would be an “any country”.

 

[therealAB]

It is the same issues with Bangladesh and Shakib, and SL to Murali, Sanga to a degree. I think a draft could be done where 8 countries are represented though, that would be fairer imo

 

[Watsupdoc]

How about you are only allowed to select 2-3 players max from a country?

 

[andy0204]

How about you are only allowed to select 2-3 players max from a country?

Not a bad idea.

 

[andy0204]

How about you are only allowed to select 2-3 players max from a country?

That includes a batsman and a bowler but we can't pick 2 batsmen or 2 bowlers at same time.

 

[Watsupdoc]

That includes a batsman and a bowler but we can't pick 2 batsmen or 2 bowlers at same time.

That would make it too restrictive I think. Also what about the A/R?

 

[andy0204]

That would make it too restrictive I think. Also what about the A/R?

In tests you only need 1 all-rounder,we will make an exception in case of picking allrounder.

 

[Ab Fan]

Would be really hard to pick 11 test players from Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland+Afghanistan

You were part of the draft [MENTION=132270]SL_Fan[/MENTION] organised, right?

We had a budget and players prices were according to the batting and bowling average range

For Batsmen:

Avg: 60+ - 10 points
50-60 - 9 points
45-50 - 8 points

Something like that. It would add another dimension to the drafts and it simply won't be the case of picking best available players first. Value for money would also need to be considered. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]

I like this idea, makes sense. But need to decide on the budget that needs to be set and how to evaluate points for all the players(should the averages be enough or sample size also needs to be considered.

We can make it like

Bradman- 150 points
60+ Avg batsmen- 100 points
50+ - 90
40+ -70
<40 - 40

Similarly for fast bowlers and spinners. All rounders and keepers seperately also.

And a total budget to pick your 11 players can be say, 800 or whatever.

Its gonna be fun. If you want to buy Bradman, you gotta pay 150 off your 800 points but at 180 points, you can buy two 50 averaging+ players as well. You can pick KP at a lesser price than Chanderpaul.

 

[maddgenius]

I like this idea, makes sense. But need to decide on the budget that needs to be set and how to evaluate points for all the players(should the averages be enough or sample size also needs to be considered.

We can make it like

Bradman- 150 points
60+ Avg batsmen- 100 points
50+ - 90
40+ -70
<40 - 40

Similarly for fast bowlers and spinners. All rounders and keepers seperately also.

And a total budget to pick your 11 players can be say, 800 or whatever.

Its gonna be fun. If you want to buy Bradman, you gotta pay 150 off your 800 points but at 180 points, you can buy two 50 averaging+ players as well. You can pick KP at a lesser price than Chanderpaul.

Yeah, we can decide the total budget and ranges later. An all rounder would cost way more than a batsman or a bowler. Similarly, we can add points for keeper too, so a 50+ averaging keeper should cost more than a 50+ averaging batsman. Also, I think average ranges should be smaller like 40-45, 45-50, 50-55, 55-60 etc

 

[SL_Fan]

Would be really hard to pick 11 test players from Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland+Afghanistan

You were part of the draft [MENTION=132270]SL_Fan[/MENTION] organised, right?

We had a budget and players prices were according to the batting and bowling average range

For Batsmen:

Avg: 60+ - 10 points
50-60 - 9 points
45-50 - 8 points

Something like that. It would add another dimension to the drafts and it simply won't be the case of picking best available players first. Value for money would also need to be considered. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]

Hey chief long time hope all is well. Not sure why but one of my last posts was deleted but anywho if y'all are still interested this is the points system we used.


Total points = 60000 points (for players and draft spot bidding)


Batsmen

Points for players according to batting average (for wk/batsmen add 1000 points)

under 25 = 2000 points
25 to 30 = 2500 points
30 to 35 = 3000 points
35 to 40 = 3500 points
40 to 45 = 4000 points
45 to 50 = 4500 points
50 to 55 = 5000 points
55 to 60 = 5500 points
60 to 80 = 6500 points
over 80 = 8500 points


Bowlers

Points for players according to bowling average:

under 20 = 7000 points
20 to 25 = 6000 points
25 to 30 = 5000 points
30 to 35 = 4000 points
35 to 40 = 3000 points
over 40 = 2000 points


All-rounders

For genuine all-rounders add up batting and bowling points.

Note: If a bowler averages more than 24 with the bat he’ll be considered as an all-rounder.


Part-timers

Batting points + Bowling points - 500

Note: Bowling average must be 35+ and must have a minimum of 25 Test wickets. Also cannot average more than a wicket a game.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I think we should focus on some twist in the draft as well to make it bit more exciting.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

I think we should focus on some twist in the draft as well to make it bit more exciting.

Same. I like the points system in the above post but let’s keep that for a later draft.

Doing two back to back “budget” drafts might get a little exhausting.

What kind of twist do you have in mind?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Same. I like the points system in the above post but let’s keep that for a later draft.

Doing two back to back “budget” drafts might get a little exhausting.

What kind of twist do you have in mind?

How about after first 3 picks, we make it mandatory for every participant team to desginate 1 player from their squad as a free agent? Meaning that player be made open for selection if whoever's turn is next wants them.

For example Bhaijaan XI's team after first 3 picks looks like this:-

Sachin
Warne
Akhtar

I have to designate one of them as a free agent, I designate Akhtar

Now, Akhtar remains a free agent for as long as i dont change it to another player or until he's picked by another team.

I think this twist will keep the draft fun at all times till it's end.

What are your thoughts

 

[Bhaijaan]

^^^

and whoever's free agent gets picked will get to pick a new player right there and then before the next person's tum

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Love this. “Stealing” other picks basically. Let’s do this.

 

[therealAB]

Great ideas

Another idea is an auction draft. Everyone gets a certain amount of $ and can bid on players. Would take a while though

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Hey chief long time hope all is well. Not sure why but one of my last posts was deleted but anywho if y'all are still interested this is the points system we used.


Total points = 60000 points (for players and draft spot bidding)


Batsmen

Points for players according to batting average (for wk/batsmen add 1000 points)

under 25 = 2000 points
25 to 30 = 2500 points
30 to 35 = 3000 points
35 to 40 = 3500 points
40 to 45 = 4000 points
45 to 50 = 4500 points
50 to 55 = 5000 points
55 to 60 = 5500 points
60 to 80 = 6500 points
over 80 = 8500 points


Bowlers

Points for players according to bowling average:

under 20 = 7000 points
20 to 25 = 6000 points
25 to 30 = 5000 points
30 to 35 = 4000 points
35 to 40 = 3000 points
over 40 = 2000 points


All-rounders

For genuine all-rounders add up batting and bowling points.

Note: If a bowler averages more than 24 with the bat he’ll be considered as an all-rounder.


Part-timers

Batting points + Bowling points - 500

Note: Bowling average must be 35+ and must have a minimum of 25 Test wickets. Also cannot average more than a wicket a game.

Great idea. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION]

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Great ideas

Another idea is an auction draft. Everyone gets a certain amount of $ and can bid on players. Would take a while though

It will require all posters to be present at a time so not feasible

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Another idea is a Combined odi and test draft.

 

[last_knight]

Select 120 players and split them 50:70 in two groups. Group A with ATGs and Group B country greats. Captains can't make 2 consecutive picks from Group A.

And allow 1 wild card for out of group picks.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

I like the auction and “steal a player” ideas personally

 

[last_knight]

I like the auction and “steal a player” ideas personally

Auction means all 10 captains will have to be online for every player. 110 players and it will take 2 months to complete.

Steal a player is applicable but no captain should be allowed more than 2.

 

[Ab Fan]

Hey chief long time hope all is well. Not sure why but one of my last posts was deleted but anywho if y'all are still interested this is the points system we used.


Total points = 60000 points (for players and draft spot bidding)


Batsmen

Points for players according to batting average (for wk/batsmen add 1000 points)

under 25 = 2000 points
25 to 30 = 2500 points
30 to 35 = 3000 points
35 to 40 = 3500 points
40 to 45 = 4000 points
45 to 50 = 4500 points
50 to 55 = 5000 points
55 to 60 = 5500 points
60 to 80 = 6500 points
over 80 = 8500 points


Bowlers

Points for players according to bowling average:

under 20 = 7000 points
20 to 25 = 6000 points
25 to 30 = 5000 points
30 to 35 = 4000 points
35 to 40 = 3000 points
over 40 = 2000 points


All-rounders

For genuine all-rounders add up batting and bowling points.

Note: If a bowler averages more than 24 with the bat he’ll be considered as an all-rounder.


Part-timers

Batting points + Bowling points - 500

Note: Bowling average must be 35+ and must have a minimum of 25 Test wickets. Also cannot average more than a wicket a game.

I liked this idea. But let's not include part timers, it will increase complexity only.

We should set certain limits for all rounders and anything outside that, they belong to either batsmen or bowler category. Guys like Williamson or Root or Sehwag should only be picked for their batting ability. No point considering their part time jobs.

 

[SL_Fan]

I liked this idea. But let's not include part timers, it will increase complexity only.

We should set certain limits for all rounders and anything outside that, they belong to either batsmen or bowler category. Guys like Williamson or Root or Sehwag should only be picked for their batting ability. No point considering their part time jobs.

I think we added the Part-timer option for the ODI version so yeah not required for Tests.

 

[Ab Fan]

How about a test draft for not more than two players in any decade from any time period? This will give us enough names to pick and anyways, most names will be picked from last 30-40 years only but we can go beyond that as well. Simple and will be entertaining as well.

Players will be considered in a decade as per their debut. Eg, Tendulkar in 80s.

 

[Watsupdoc]

How about a test draft for not more than two players in any decade from any time period? This will give us enough names to pick and anyways, most names will be picked from last 30-40 years only but we can go beyond that as well. Simple and will be entertaining as well.

Players will be considered in a decade as per their debut. Eg, Tendulkar in 80s.

I think Nasir Hussain and Rob key did something similar but that was more a 'battle of the decades'.

Something along those lines can be thought as well? (i.e. can only choose players from 90s decades v 2000s decade) and you have to choose on alternative basis, so if you choose 90s player as 1st pick then you need to pick 2000s player as 2nd, etc - but maybe too complicated.

This is what Nasir Hussain and Rob Key did by the way:

 

[Ab Fan]

I think Nasir Hussain and Rob key did something similar but that was more a 'battle of the decades'.

Something along those lines can be thought as well? (i.e. can only choose players from 90s decades v 2000s decade) and you have to choose on alternative basis, so if you choose 90s player as 1st pick then you need to pick 2000s player as 2nd, etc - but maybe too complicated.

This is what Nasir Hussain and Rob Key did by the way:

Interestingidea but we will have 10 particpants and picking 110 players from only two decades, clearly that is not possible. Maybe we can go for the same but do this for all-time with no repetition to the very previous pick? Or something on the same line but simpler and better than this?

 

[Bhaijaan]

We can do a draft in which we can take an individual's will very much our of the equation or limit it to a large extent.

Like for example I can only pick a player whose initials start with the letter at which the last picked players name ends.

So someone ahead of me picks Shane Watson (lol) then I have to pick someone whose name starts with 'N'

I pick Neil Wagner..

Next person has to pick someone with R

And so on

 

[ElRaja]

all the players have to be born with a year, six months up, six months down of your birthmonth (in case people dont want to reveal their birthday), and unless we have someone who found the elixir or youth, no one gets don bradman.

so if i was born in march 92, all the players would have to be born between sept 91 to sept 92.

 

[Ab Fan]

Let's start with something [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

 

[Thunderbolt14]

We can do a draft in which we can take an individual's will very much our of the equation or limit it to a large extent.

Like for example I can only pick a player whose initials start with the letter at which the last picked players name ends.

So someone ahead of me picks Shane Watson (lol) then I have to pick someone whose name starts with 'N'

I pick Neil Wagner..

Next person has to pick someone with R

And so on

Let’s do this?

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

We can do a draft in which we can take an individual's will very much our of the equation or limit it to a large extent.

Like for example I can only pick a player whose initials start with the letter at which the last picked players name ends.

So someone ahead of me picks Shane Watson (lol) then I have to pick someone whose name starts with 'N'

I pick Neil Wagner..

Next person has to pick someone with R

And so on

Brilliant bhaijaan. However I'd rather pick Shane Watson over Sunil narine anyday )

 

[Ab Fan]

In a way, this will be an advantage to the ones who will make two picks.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

In a way, this will be an advantage to the ones who will make two picks.

Yes true. So let’s make it so that the second pick must also start with the same letter.

 

[Abdullah719]

I'd like a Test draft for Asia at some point. Most of the drafts so far have been heavily pacer-focused understandably. A Test draft for Asia would put more focus on spinners and the batsmen strategy would also change quite a bit. Minimum qualification should be players who played some Test(s) in Asia.

 

[Rayyman]

I'd like a Test draft for Asia at some point. Most of the drafts so far have been heavily pacer-focused understandably. A Test draft for Asia would put more focus on spinners and the batsmen strategy would also change quite a bit. Minimum qualification should be players who played some Test(s) in Asia.

Yea I’m down for an Asian draft

 

[therealAB]

I'd like a Test draft for Asia at some point. Most of the drafts so far have been heavily pacer-focused understandably. A Test draft for Asia would put more focus on spinners and the batsmen strategy would also change quite a bit. Minimum qualification should be players who played some Test(s) in Asia.

sounds good. So the players can be from any country, not just from Asia. Its just being played in Asia right

 

[Abdullah719]

sounds good. So the players can be from any country, not just from Asia. Its just being played in Asia right

Yup.