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New Zealand (156/5) defeat Pakistan (153/9) by 5 wickets in the 1st T20I

uberkoen said:
You expect us to celebrate the likes of Imad, Faheem, Rauf, Hafeez, and Wahab? Pathetic standards.
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What has Rauf done wrong? Has been pretty good both in internationals and T20 leagues. Hafeez and Imad are also decent T20 players.

Agree about Riaz though.
 
Good fight from team defending a total well short of decent on this ground
 
Of all the people, to allow Chapman to bat at 170 SR is criminal.
 
El Generico said:
What has Rauf done wrong? Has been pretty good both in internationals and T20 leagues. Hafeez and Imad are also decent T20 players.

Agree about Riaz though.
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Rauf has done well today but I just don't believe a player like him should be playing for Pakistan. He's a hit or miss type guys. He might give you one good day but more often than not he'll get whacked around the park.
 
uberkoen said:
Agreed. He has made a lot of poor decisions today. Shadab isn't ready for captaincy. I mean, Shadab isn't even a guaranteed starter let alone a captain.
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Its his first match, so we can give him a little slack. But no one else can be captain besides him and babar.
 
I know the temptation behind wahabs selection is his batting. So can we add him to the list of relu kattas
 
uberkoen said:
Rauf has done well today but I just don't believe a player like him should be playing for Pakistan. He's a hit or miss type guys. He might give you one good day but more often than not he'll get whacked around the park.
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He's a luxury bowler. He gives you the pace and energy and chances out of nothing. In an XI you need balance. Not Rauf's fault if Management can't find a balanced bowling XI
 
Rauf might thrive in NZ due to the supportive surfaces but this man will get hit all over when he plays in the sub-continent or even England or literally anywhere else
 
Pakistan fought greatly and came back into the game very well win or lose a part of the game. Very good captaincy by shadab for his first game and amazing performance with the bat when team needed it . All the players that [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has a problem with performed today and the proof is that he has disappeared since they have been doing well but its ok we all expect him to come at the end running to his computer when Pakistan loses the match . He was very active in the first innings but as soon as Pakistan took some wickets he disappeared shows his true nature and what he comes to do here exactly anyways well played Pakistan .
 
uberkoen said:
Agreed. He has made a lot of poor decisions today. Shadab isn't ready for captaincy. I mean, Shadab isn't even a guaranteed starter let alone a captain.
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He has made no poor decision, he brought himself as Wahab was being poor, so he went for some runs due to his own poor bowling but what has that got to do with his captaincy.
 
uberkoen said:
Rauf might thrive in NZ due to the supportive surfaces but this man will get hit all over when he plays in the sub-continent or even England or literally anywhere else
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He is the kind of bowler who can give you a quick 3 wicket burst. And also the kind of bowler who can go for 50 runs in 4 overs.
 
uberkoen said:
Rauf might thrive in NZ due to the supportive surfaces but this man will get hit all over when he plays in the sub-continent or even England or literally anywhere else
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You don’t know cricket. His bowling style is suited for dry pitches and he was Pakistan’s best fast bowler in England.
 
That was a good shot against Shaheen. This man is a match winner though he will come back stronger
 
Rayyman said:
You don’t know cricket. His bowling style is suited for dry pitches and he was Pakistan’s best fast bowler in England.
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No he wasn't. Can you please stop already? Just stop while you're ahead. I really don't want you to make a fool of yourself.
 
What happened to Shaheen? Bad bad over. Was expecting a lot better from him to be honest.
 
Pakistan did well considering they were 20/4 at one point. Could win the series with a couple of changes. I would drop Rizwan/Riaz for Hasnain/Sarfaraz.
 
uberkoen said:
Rauf might thrive in NZ due to the supportive surfaces but this man will get hit all over when he plays in the sub-continent or even England or literally anywhere else
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He was actually good in England. Excuses keep coming. First people were saying he is only good in Aus in Bash league then only in Pakistan now only in NZ. I can only laugh.
 
Only POSITIVE today is the fight and that is it. Let us not kid our selves this is NZ B team for sure. I left it at 40 odd for 5 surprised how we got 150 but they have chased this with ease..i am afraid as i predicted it will be a 3 0 and a 2 0 whitewashing but we need to see some fight we have brought 45 players !!
 
Other than a catch and a misfield or two cant complain the effort in this innings. When you are 4-20 on such a small ground, you are rarely gonna put in a defendable total
 
Rayyman said:
He won MOS last time in NZ...
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And how long ago was that? These days he trundles in and makes minimum possible effort. Only steps it up in games with high visibility, after coasting in the initial matches
 
Too many useless oldies and part-time players in the team. Really need to send a proper playing 11 out there if we are to get something out of these games. Hafeez and Wahab need to be dropped. Faheem and Imad need to be replaced. Was Khushdil playing? Did he do something? The top order was pathetic. Lots of changes needed.

What's the point of Haider Ali and Shafique if they can't score? Shafique seems as though he was brought in too early and needs to continue playing domestic before he's given another chance.
 
The fact that posters were praising the “fight” and “aggression” after Pakistan limped to 150 and took a couple of cheap wickets shows how much we have fallen.

Pakistan had no chance of defending this total. You need 180+ on this ground even with a world class attack, and Pakistan’s attack is deeply mediocre.
 
Indiafan said:
And how long ago was that? These days he trundles in and makes minimum possible effort. Only steps it up in games with high visibility, after coasting in the initial matches
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You can take a deep breath, he’s retired. He won’t be back don’t worry.
 
Titan24 said:
Other than a catch and a misfield or two cant complain the effort in this innings. When you are 4-20 on such a small ground, you are rarely gonna put in a defendable total
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Our top-order lost us this game. This fightback has been incredible to say the least, even the NZ commentators are mildly surprised by this comeback from Pakistan.
 
Those who are complaining that I “disappear” whenever Pakistan takes a wicket or hits a six, well I do it because my presence is not required when the fans fall prey to false sense of hope.

I know the reality of Pakistan cricket like the back of my hand. Unfortunately, most people here do not have that perspective and they start distributing mithai and serve humble pies whenever Pakistan produces two good overs.

I don’t see any reason for raining on their parade when I know that disappointment is waiting for them with open arms.
 
Mamoon said:
The fact that posters were praising the “fight” and “aggression” after Pakistan limped to 150 and took a couple of cheap wickets shows how much we have fallen.

Pakistan had no chance of defending this total. You need 180+ on this ground even with a world class attack, and Pakistan’s attack is deeply mediocre.
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Still doesn't take away the effort the team did in the 2nd innings. That was a fight.
 
Mamoon said:
The fact that posters were praising the “fight” and “aggression” after Pakistan limped to 150 and took a couple of cheap wickets shows how much we have fallen.

Pakistan had no chance of defending this total. You need 180+ on this ground even with a world class attack, and Pakistan’s attack is deeply mediocre.
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Back right on time, bravo. :afridi
 
Bad match for Wahab but it happens. People shouldn’t forget for how long Pak was in quarantine without any practice. When you are playing at top level at in sport you need the necessary preparation and training.
 
Pakistani fans are left with nothing except praising the “fight” every time we lose, which is basically all the time.

To be a Pakistan cricket fan is a very special type of misery.
 
Titan24 said:
Bad match for Wahab but it happens. People shouldn’t forget for how long Pak was in quarantine without any practice. When you are playing at top level at any sport you need the necessary preparation and training.
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Here come the excuses.
 
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