India (238/7) defeat New Zealand (190/7) comfortably by 48 runs to take 1-0 lead in the 5-match T20I series

[sweep_shot]

Does it look straight arm? I need better angle, but I have doubts.
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Seems like chucking to me.

Both Axar and Bumrah should be tested for chucking.

 

[Devadwal]

Seems like chucking to me.

Both Axar and Bumrah should be tested for chucking.

Pakistanis/ banglu are whinning and crying 24*7 is most beautiful things to watch.

 

[charlie007]

I don't wanna be rude, but zip it until it gets analyzed. Bhakti saffron glasses hinder the analytical skills.

You need a valid reason to analyze anyone’s bowling action and random fans calling for it is definitely not one.

 

[CricVet]

You need a valid reason to analyze anyone’s bowling action and random fans calling for it is definitely not one.

As long as they are not Sanghis. Only Sanghi bhakts have the right of opinions - zip it. This is PakPassion GTFO here.

 

[sweep_shot]

You need a valid reason to analyze anyone’s bowling action and random fans calling for it is definitely not one.

There are valid reasons. Look at their actions.

By your logic, Murali shouldn't have been tested either.

Murali got tested and he passed. Bumrah and Axar need to do the same.

 

[charlie007]

The Chat GPT Analysis:
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You seriously didn’t ask ChatGPT to analyze a 2D image for a 3D action !!! If you gave Shoaib Akhtar’s image to ChatGPT, it will commit suicide.

 

[jnaveen1980]

The Chat GPT Analysis:
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In 2d picture everyone is a chucker depending on what you present

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Does it look straight arm? I need better angle, but I have doubts.
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You were arguing that people were calling Hafeez for chucking. That action of Axar's is as clean as it gets.

For comparison , here's Hafeez's action from the past.



It used to straighten fully from that bent position.
Still images don't mean much because they can't show how much the arm straightens but since you brought that pic up...

 

[CricVet]

You seriously didn’t ask ChatGPT to analyze a 2D image for a 3D action !!! If you gave Shoaib Akhtar’s image to ChatGPT, it will commit suicide.

You still have chuckers bowling and yet ChatGPT is alive and kicking...stay buried in past civilization.

 

[CricVet]

You were arguing that people were calling Hafeez for chucking. That action of Axar's is as clean as it gets.

For comparison , here's Hafeez's action from the past.

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It used to straighten fully from that bent position.
Still images don't mean much because they can't show how much the arm straightens but since you brought that pic up...

Was he called for this ball?

 

[charlie007]

There are valid reasons. Look at their actions.

By your logic, Murali shouldn't have been tested either.

Murali got tested and he passed. Bumrah and Axar need to do the same.

Yeah, like I said fans calling for testing doesn’t count as a valid reason. They have already analyzed Bumrah’s action many times over on TV - it’s straight as an arrow at the time of delivery. Don’t get fooled by his arm bending backward on a different plane of reference. Axar’s bowling has no chuck, it’s quite apparent. If there’s a doubt from the umpires’ perspective, they’ll call him out.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Was he called for this ball?

This was his action from that era. You can check any footage from that era. This is from 2011.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Abhishek Sharma stole the spotlight with a breathtaking innings as India defeated New Zealand by 48 runs in the opening T20I of the five-match series in Nagpur on Wednesday.

After being asked to bat first, India piled up a daunting 238 for 7, driven by Abhishek’s explosive 84 off just 35 balls. His brutal stroke play set the tone for the innings, putting the New Zealand bowlers under immense pressure from the outset.

He was well supported by Rinku Singh, who remained unbeaten on 44 from 20 deliveries, while Suryakumar Yadav chipped in with a brisk 32 off 22 balls. Hardik Pandya also made a handy contribution, scoring 25 off 16 balls to maintain the scoring momentum. For the Black Caps, Jacob Duffy was the standout bowler, finishing with figures of 2 for 27.

In reply, New Zealand fell short despite a spirited effort, managing 190 for 7 in their 20 overs. Varun Chakaravarthy and Shivam Dube led India’s bowling attack, picking up two wickets each to ensure a comfortable win for the hosts.

 

[CricVet]

This was his action from that era. You can check any footage from that era. This is from 2011.

That is not the answer of the question. Was he called for THIS ball?

 

[charlie007]

You still have chuckers bowling and yet ChatGPT is alive and kicking...stay buried in past civilization.

My bad! I shouldn’t have gotten involved in this discussion that’s based on opinions and assumptions and devoid of any scientific reasoning. You are entitled to your opinions.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

That is not the answer of the question. Was he called for THIS ball?

Why does that question need an answer? Hafeez was called at least 4-5 times in his career .

Nobody knows which exact deliveries any bowler was called for.

Axar has never been called and yet you brought out a pic of some random delivery

 

[CricVet]

I am not here for a debate whether someone else is chucking or not with Indian spin doctors. Open a thread and discuss other chuckers. we are analyzing THIS particular chucker. I am ignoring any other discussion.

 

[Human786]

A solid win ...

 

[CricVet]

Why does that question need an answer? Hafeez was called at least 4-5 times in his career .

Nobody knows which exact deliveries any bowler was called for.

Axar has never been called and yet you brought out a pic of some random delivery

For the last time. We are not discussing Hafeez.

Also, it is ALWAYS about particular delivery. Bowlers DO GET called for particular deliveries. They get away many times, but not all.

Axar need to get called and checked by experts. I am here to give ONLY opinions. my voice alone will not make a difference.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

For the last time. We are not discussing Hafeez.

Also, it is ALWAYS about particular delivery. Bowlers DO GET called for particular deliveries. They get away many times, but not all.

Axar need to get called and checked by experts. I am here to give ONLY opinions. my voice alone will not make a difference.

And the experts don't think there's a problem with his action.

They are called for a series of suspect deliveries but these are not released to the public.

Why should Axar get called when you have yourself admitted that yours is a layman's opinion. Which expert has questioned his action ?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Axar is playing since 2015 or something. Never heard anyone talk about his action. They have many times compared his action with jadejas action too.. is it one of those things let us see if sticks kind of accusation.

 

[BreadPakoda]

The Chat GPT Analysis:
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Another example of science is a man

 

[sweep_shot]

That is not the answer of the question. Was he called for THIS ball?

Umpires don't want to lose their jobs I guess. So, they are unlikely to call out Indian bowlers even if there are valid reasons.

 

[CricVet]

Another example of science is a man

Learn to make sense!

 

[Smbhayi]

Just watched highlights, Glenn Philips can hit monstrous sixes effortlessly.. by the way both team was bit bad in the field..

 

[Sachin fan]

The Chat GPT Analysis:
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This is exactly what experts warned about dumb people using chat gpt and not understanding how it fails in these things..

 

[CricVet]

This is exactly what experts warned about dumb people using chat gpt and not understanding how it fails in these things..

The dumbest people NEVER understand the argument. Read my line when posted the first picture. ChatGPT is not used for final verdict.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is exactly what experts warned about dumb people using chat gpt and not understanding how it fails in these things..

For complex analysis like this you need extensive datasets, sensors machine learning toools like vector machine, neural network, 3D models etc. ChatGPT doesn't have these things. This is misuse of AI. Can't blame the AI here. We have to blame the User.

 

[sweep_shot]

The dumbest people NEVER understand the argument. Read my line when posted the first picture. ChatGPT is not used for final verdict.

That Axar's image is showing he is possibly chucking. This is why testing is necessary to weed out doubts.

Why can't Indian players be tested? Are they special?

Indians introduce caste-like discrimination everywhere.

 

[Mas-LFC]

That Axar's image is showing he is possibly chucking. This is why testing is necessary to weed out doubts.

Why can't Indian players be tested? Are they special?

Indians introduce caste-like discrimination everywhere.

It’s in their dna to introduce caste system everywhere.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Does it look straight arm? I need better angle, but I have doubts.
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It's always hard to tell from a 2d image but arm doesn't have to be straight when delivering anyway, technically you can have arm bent all the way around. You just can't extend beyond 15 degrees.

 

[Champ_Pal]

It’s in their dna to introduce caste system everywhere.

No one cares about Axar's caste. Looks like you have an issue with an ingrained caste system thought.

 

[CricVet]

It's always hard to tell from a 2d image but arm doesn't have to be straight when delivering anyway, technically you can have arm bent all the way around. You just can't extend beyond 15 degrees.

I know the rule of 15°. My argument is: When there is an evidence of doubt, why can't these bowlers be tested - what is stopping? The problem is greed which has kept the I-sissy mum!

 

[Hellion]

I know the rule of 15°. My argument is: When there is an evidence of doubt, why can't these bowlers be tested - what is stopping? The problem is greed which has kept the I-sissy mum!

You clearly don't know the 15 degree rule. You brought up a random still pic where Axar's arm is pretty much straight and you're trying to push some ridiculous argument.

 

[Hellion]

Nawaz looks a much bigger chucker than Axar but....

 

[jnaveen1980]

Nawaz looks a much bigger chucker than Axar but....

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And Nawaz wears full sleeves. Axar rolls his sleeves up.

 

[Devadwal]

Most 200+ Scores in T20I ,

- 44*,

Social distance
.
.
- 27
- 25
- 25
- 24
🏝 - 24
- 16
- 13
- 13
- 7

 

[RamLakhan]

Indian dominance in International Cricket is in this order as of now:

1) T20s
2) ODIs
3) Tests - Abroad
4) Tests - Home

Total Reversal from 90s times! Winning a Test Match at home seems to be a far-fetched now! (West Indies series should not have happened - maybe even Pakistan instead of them would have fancied winning!)

 

[sweep_shot]

Most 200+ Scores in T20I ,

- 44*,

Social distance
.
.
- 27
- 25
- 25
- 24
🏝 - 24
- 16
- 13
- 13
- 7

It helps when India get to face many depleted sides. India also play a lot of T20s.

Also, who cares about T20? Real cricket is Test (where India is currently flopping).

 

[Devadwal]

It helps when India get to face many depleted sides. India also play a lot of T20s.

Also, who cares about T20? Real cricket is Test (where India is currently flopping).

T20 match played by India - 264
T20 match played by Pakistan - 289

Pakistan mostly played bilateral series against second string side while india mostly Played against full strength side's.

#Fact

 

[sweep_shot]

T20 match played by India - 264
T20 match played by Pakistan - 289

Pakistan mostly played bilateral series against second string side while india mostly Played against full strength side's.

#Fact

T20 stats do not matter much. T20 is junk like French fries.

T20 is just for entertainment. It is for casual fans like you.

 

[Devadwal]

T20 stats do not matter much. T20 is junk like French fries.

T20 is just for entertainment. It is for casual fans like you.

I can feel your pain but you can't do anything expect crying and whinning

 

[charlie007]

There are valid reasons. Look at their actions.

By your logic, Murali shouldn't have been tested either.

Murali got tested and he passed. Bumrah and Axar need to do the same.

Murali was called by the umpires not fans

 

[charlie007]

As long as they are not Sanghis. Only Sanghi bhakts have the right of opinions - zip it. This is PakPassion GTFO here.

You should choose your words wisely and argue on logic and facts rather than opinion and false bravado. You have no idea who I am and what I stand for, so think before you speak.
All you have said is “it looks like” - what value do your words hold? Zilch! I gave you a scientific fact about dimensions but you chose to ignore it. Now who has their head buried in sand?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I can feel your pain but you can't do anything expect crying and whinning

Yeah, he was expecting it, and you are actually doing it.

 

[CricVet]

You should choose your words wisely and argue on logic and facts rather than opinion and false bravado. You have no idea who I am and what I stand for, so think before you speak.
All you have said is “it looks like” - what value do your words hold? Zilch! I gave you a scientific fact about dimensions but you chose to ignore it. Now who has their head buried in sand?

Mostly, Sanghis like you have the heads buried in sand