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New Zealand (286/3) smoke India (284/7) by 7 wickets in the 2nd ODI to level the series at 1-1

Boghles frog stuck in his throat & Indian spectators deathly silence when the opposition are on top in india are a sight to behold.
 
Daryl Mitchell has been ranked in top 10 ODI Batters every year since December 2003 after starting that year at 100. Currently ranked 2nd.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Not sure if you had to talk about Pak in a NZ-Ind thread but since you mention it Pak B side beat SA in ODI series recently. Your tullas are struggling to beat NZ B with Kholi, Sharma playing.
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Just comparing the two teams. Pakistan's cricketing strength is such that a champion T20 cricketer like Rizwan can't even break into the side.
 
It took more than 3 years, but NZ have finally won an ODI against India. India was without Bumrah, Hardik, Shami, etc. but a win is a win. Congrats to the Kiwis. After decimating Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. over the last few years, this real win must feel special. :)
 
BreadPakoda said:
What’s the point of playing NKR when you’re not going to give him some overs in a JAMODI?
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I am finding Indian strategy quite surprising overall.

I understand need to play roko for commercial reasons, but does it benefit India to have these almost retired players play against this C grade attack? It would make sense for youngsters to play.

Having these kiwi bowlers bowl to these legends actually is benefiting Kiwi cricket more than Indian.
 
NZ C team have beaten India comfortably. Hopefully they will clinch the series too. :dav

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DeadlyVenom said:
I am finding Indian strategy quite surprising overall.

I understand need to play roko for commercial reasons, but does it benefit India to have these almost retired players play against this C grade attack? It would make sense for youngsters to play.

Having these kiwi bowlers bowl to these legends actually is benefiting Kiwi cricket more than Indian.
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ROKO have to pull the strings to ensure they play all games otherwise GG / AA will drop them. They don’t have a choice.
 
I don’t understand NKR’s role. Batted #7 and bowled only 2 overs.

Jadeja batted #6. Bowled 8 overs. Although one may argue whether India needs Jadeja but that’s a more all round contribution.
 
BreadPakoda said:
I don’t understand NKR’s role. Batted #7 and bowled only 2 overs.

Jadeja batted #6. Bowled 8 overs. Although one may argue if India needs Jadeja but that’s a more all round contribution.
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Gambhir has produced the goods by winning trophies but his methods are complete madness.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Gambhir has produced the goods by winning trophies but his methods are complete madness.
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2025 CT win wasn't a real win. It was a farce. :inti

2024 World T20 win happened under Dravid.

So, Gambhir didn't really win anything.

Anyway, Gambhir is a hardcore sanghi. It is great to see him taking India down to the gutter. Classic sanghi incompetence.:dav
 
The Bald Eagle said:
He hasn't leaked runs like a Chinaman, to kill the chase earlier and has bowled with great control in this series
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Hellion said:
What dustbowls has anyone bowled in ODI's. Just admit that you think Siraj is the best only because he's Muslim .
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Siraj gives his all for the Indian team, yet we have andhbhakts who can't even tolerate praise directed at him. Oh Surender Mowgli, what have you done to these bhakts? :facepalm :inti


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Pretty clinical from the Kiwis. They are the kings of getting the most out of what they have. Their bowlers were very disciplined and the target was not really a tough one under lights. Mitchell is a such a fantastic player in these conditions... it;s surprising how he gets snubbed in the IPL so often.
 
Jadeja at #6 is still the biggest problem with this side. Get a batting allrounder at #6 and this team will be completely different
 
Daryl Mitchell is one of the few batters in the world who really knows how to put Kuldeep Yadav to the sword. The thing that stands out is his proactive footwork. Even if he is not picking it out of the hand, he seems to judge the pace and flight very well. Top-class player who doesn't get enough credit.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
He hasn't leaked runs like a Chinaman, to kill the chase earlier and has bowled with great control in this series
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Hellion said:
Siraj is not even close to being the best bowler in this ODI squad. Politics had nothing to do with it. But then again it's beyond the likes of you
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How about you improve your comprehension? @The Bald Eagle mentioned clearly about his performance in this series. Is he lying? From where did Siraj being a Muslim come into this discussion? It's andhbhakhts like you who bring religion into everything here. :inti

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DeadlyVenom said:
Gambhir has produced the goods by winning trophies but his methods are complete madness.
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I wouldn't say that his methods are complete madness in white-ball. It makes sense to pack the side with multiple all-rounders, if you have 'em. Problem is, most teams (besides Australia) don't have so many all-rounders. Besides Jadeja and Sundar, I don't think he has done anything wrong by backing the likes Axar, Pandya, Reddy, Dube
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I wouldn't say that his methods are complete madness in white-ball. It makes sense to pack the side with multiple all-rounders, if you have 'em. Problem is, most teams (besides Australia) don't have so many all-rounders. Besides Jadeja and Sundar, I don't think he has done anything wrong by backing the likes Axar, Pandya, Reddy, Dube
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There are batting all rounders bowling all rounders you should err on the side of batting all rounders. But Gambhir ears on the side of bowling all rounders. India literally shuts stop as soon as they are 4 down.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I wouldn't say that his methods are complete madness in white-ball. It makes sense to pack the side with multiple all-rounders, if you have 'em. Problem is, most teams (besides Australia) don't have so many all-rounders. Besides Jadeja and Sundar, I don't think he has done anything wrong by backing the likes Axar, Pandya, Reddy, Dube
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the tail is very long here. There aren't too many pure all-rounders, mainly bowlers who can bat a little bit and the team is still playing both the almost retirees in JAMODIS. It seems a bit mixed up.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
There are batting all rounders bowling all rounders you should err on the side of batting all rounders. But Gambhir ears on the side of bowling all rounders. India literally shuts stop as soon as they are 4 down.
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Pandya and NKR are batting all-rounders. Axar is a bowling all-rounder, and even Axar has shown that he is capable of batting in the middle-order. As long as you back these three in ODI - with NKR essentially being a back-up for Pandya, you should be good. Problem is selecting old a$$ Jadeja for ODI when he was finished 3 years ago, and Sundar whose batting numbers this year are worse than the tailenders.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
the tail is very long here. There aren't too many pure all-rounders, mainly bowlers who can bat a little bit and the team is still playing both the almost retirees in JAMODIS. It seems a bit mixed up.
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Well Sundar and Jadeja are definitely an issue. Jadeja has no right to be playing ODI cricket for India in 2026. Sundar is basically playing as a bowler right now, and not a very good one at that. India has always had atleast two proper all-rounders in their eleven going back to Kohli days, the problem is selecting the wrong all-rounders. NKR, Pandya and Axar are the only all-rounders India should be backing in ODI right now
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
How about you improve your comprehension? @The Bald Eagle mentioned clearly about his performance in this series. Is he lying? From where did Siraj being a Muslim come into this discussion? It's andhbhakhts like you who bring religion into everything here. :inti

1st ODI:

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Are you just dumb or are you a liar as well. He said Siraj is the best bowler in this ODI squad. Go back and read FFS. He didn't say anything about this series
 
Hellion said:
Are you just dumb or are you a liar as well. He said Siraj is the best bowler in this ODI squad. Go back and read FFS. He didn't say anything about this series
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Dumb? Liar? Easy there, munna. I literally quoted the post where he said that. Looks like him supporting Mohammed Siraj and me calling out your pathetic comprehension while exposing your Muslim hate, triggered you pretty badly. Get well soon. :yk :inti
 
Nikhil_cric said:
You said he's the best bowler. Onus is on you to back that up with stats. Not just compare with one bowler
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Very well so is avg the sole criteria here also ? and well that makes economy rate a farce then. Now I realize why GG and today you (by your logic) backing a protege like harshit
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Pandya and NKR are batting all-rounders. Axar is a bowling all-rounder, and even Axar has shown that he is capable of batting in the middle-order. As long as you back these three in ODI - with NKR essentially being a back-up for Pandya, you should be good. Problem is selecting old a$$ Jadeja for ODI when he was finished 3 years ago, and Sundar whose batting numbers this year are worse than the tailenders.
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NKR is seriously inexperienced. His father looks.like 30 years old :) we were all excited when he made century in boxing day test. He was the 2nd highest run getter for India in BGT. But since he has regressed badly everywhere with bat
He is no longer a batting all rounder. He is a proper bits and pieces or rails katta whatever
Pandya doesn't play bilateral much.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Well Sundar and Jadeja are definitely an issue. Jadeja has no right to be playing ODI cricket for India in 2026. Sundar is basically playing as a bowler right now, and not a very good one at that. India has always had atleast two proper all-rounders in their eleven going back to Kohli days, the problem is selecting the wrong all-rounders. NKR, Pandya and Axar are the only all-rounders India should be backing in ODI right now
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Gambir is delusional to think spots once occupied by MSD and Raina can be handled by Jadeja and sundar/reddy
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Very well so is avg the sole criteria here also ? and well that makes economy rate a farce then. Now I realize why GG and today you (by your logic) backing a protege like harshit
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After Asia Cup 2023,

Matches - 20
Average - 39.5
Wickets - 22
Economy - 5.7

And this guy is the best bowler in the squad according to you

These are utterly mediocre numbers
 
Nikhil_cric said:
After Asia Cup 2023,

Matches - 20
Average - 39.5
Wickets - 22
Economy - 5.7

And this guy is the best bowler in the squad according to you

These are utterly mediocre numbers
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We were always talking about this series before you widened the net. Anyways, he doesn't depend on pitches for carrying the day.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
NKR is seriously inexperienced. His father looks.like 30 years old :) we were all excited when he made century in boxing day test. He was the 2nd highest run getter for India in BGT. But since he has regressed badly everywhere with bat
He is no longer a batting all rounder. He is a proper bits and pieces or rails katta whatever
Pandya doesn't play bilateral much.
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That may be true but a player like Reddy - seam-bowling all-rounder who has good upside with bat and ball needs to be backed in white-ball. More than anything he adds utility to the side with his all-round ability. Who else do India have right now who can step in as a credible replacement for Pandya? I can't think of anyone else. I also think that this is exactly the purpose of series like these, where you give these types of players more chances. He has only played 3 ODIs so far so I don't see an issue with giving him some more chances. Ofcourse if you are selecting him as an all-rounder then he probably should be bowling more than 2 overs too..
 
Nikhil_cric said:
After Asia Cup 2023,

Matches - 20
Average - 39.5
Wickets - 22
Economy - 5.7

And this guy is the best bowler in the squad according to you

These are utterly mediocre numbers
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Siraj should stick to Test cricket, he is not cut out for limited-overs. A bowler like him who doesn't have alot of pace and relies heavily on line and length and discipline can be taken apart in white-ball cricket.
 
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