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New Zealand (337/8) defeat India (296) by 41 runs in 3rd ODI in Indore to win series 2-1

Wasim Ghulam said:
he might be. so India's batting is bits and Pieces because Cushion batter at 7 is supposedly bits and pcs?
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He shouldn't even be in the side. He was dropped around 2017. He came back because Pandya got injured india needed a temporary stop gap. HE stuck with us without doing anything.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He shouldn't even be in the side. He was dropped around 2017. He came back because Pandya got injured india needed a temporary stop gap. HE stuck with us without doing anything.
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you are nt answering the question

you blamed Ghambhir that he filled up India's batting with bits and pcs. and this argument stands because Jadeja is in playing 11?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
you are nt answering the question

you blamed Ghambhir that he filled up India's batting with bits and pcs. and this argument stands because Jadeja is in playing 11?
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And Reddy. India went with essetnially 5 batsmen 1 washed up oldie Rohit. These bits and pieces players cannot bat like Dhoni for the entire match hwo used to come at 6.
 
Fast bowler6929 said:
Lol man I don't care about cricket much. I m just here for fun. Hahahah
But I do love India's defeats. Hahahah
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India ruined this beautiful British sport with overcommercialization, petty politics, and corruption.

For cricket to become great again, India's decline in cricket is much needed.

So, well done, New Zealand. They started India's decline with the 3-0 Test series win and now this. :dav
 
jnaveen1980 said:
And Reddy. India went with essetnially 5 batsmen 1 washed up oldie Rohit. These bits and pieces players cannot bat like Dhoni for the entire match hwo used to come at 6.
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Everyone goes with 5 batsmen and then all rounders. whats up with excuses dude? you lost to a young team which India should nt have even with washed up rohit. get over it
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Everyone goes with 5 batsmen and then all rounders. whats up with excuses dude? you lost to a young team which India should nt have even with washed up rohit. get over it
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They are primarily batsmen. Not bowlers. In ODIs you should be good enough to play 25 overs at good rate to be considered a batsman atleast once in your life.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
They are primarily batsmen. Not bowlers. In ODIs you should be good enough to play 25 overs at good rate to be considered a batsman atleast once in your life.
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top 5 Indian batters are high class. All of them average above 50 or close to 50 at decent SR. India's batting is Just fine.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Jadeja for the record batted at no.8 in the CT final.
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Jadeja is nt the point here. he is supposed to be bits and pcs at 7. Fact is India played 5 Genuine and Capable batters. Cant blame Jadeja as Sole reason for failure. and As usual India's bowling without Prime Shami and Bumrah in mix starts to look ordinary like old days
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Jadeja is nt the point here. he is supposed to be bits and pcs at 7. Fact is India played 5 Genuine and Capable batters. Cant blame Jadeja as Sole reason for failure. and As usual India's bowling without Prime Shami and Bumrah in mix starts to look ordinary like old days
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He is. Your no.6 batsman should be able to make a 100 if needed. You are so out of touch with Indian set up. Your no.6 should be able to do things like this.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...dia-vs-england-1st-odi-1034819/full-scorecard
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
you are nt answering the question

you blamed Ghambhir that he filled up India's batting with bits and pcs. and this argument stands because Jadeja is in playing 11?
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It absolutely stands. Play any lineup without significant batting depth and they'll flop no matter how good your Top 5 is
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Gill
Jaiswal
Kohli
Iyer
KL
Parag/ Abhishek
Pandya
Rana
Bumrah
Kuldeep
Arshdeep

Squad of 15

Axar
Prasidh
Pant
Siraj
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I want Abhishek to Open once Kohli retire, Abhishek, Jaiswal amd gill - This should be top 3 .

Agree with your team selection .

:kp
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
lol Kedar Jadhav has 2 career Hundreds and this was once in blue moon performance. Making it look like something India offers consistently as benchmark at numb 6 is a hilarious take.
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Our of the 212 matches Jadeja has played , batted at no.6 12 times. You are saying Jadeja batting at 6 is what everyone is doing? lol That is why i keep repeating do some research.
 
A real treat for this kiwi rookie bowling attack to be able to bowl at a player like Kohli.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Our of the 212 matches Jadeja has played , batted at no.6 12 times. You are saying Jadeja batting at 6 is what everyone is doing? lol That is why i keep repeating do some research.
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Dnt Shift the Goal Post. Jadeja Batted today where he was meant to Bat. India has capable top 5 Batters . and India does nt need or have batter coming as no 6 capable of scoring 100 at will.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Dnt Shift the Goal Post. Jadeja Batted today where he was meant to Bat. India has capable top 5 Batters . and India does nt need or have batter coming at 6 capable of scoring 100 at will.
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Collapse can happen at the top. You ar eputting them in a spot where they have to deliver every single match. That never happened for any team in history. At times you need help from lower order. Hwo do you think India suddenly started getting good in the mid 2000s while chasing? Because of Yuvraj , MSD, Raina. Rahul is not a regular middle order batsman. He is not like Yuvraj or MSD. HE is a part time keeper.
 
What exactly did India gain or learn from this series. I understand resting players or trying new combinations but they've just kept the oldies and stacked the team with bits and pieces.

What was the strategy and objectives here? It seems just like a chance to milk Indian public by parading Kohli and Sharma around different venues.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Dnt Shift the Goal Post. Jadeja Batted today where he was meant to Bat. India has capable top 5 Batters . and India does nt need or have batter coming as no 6 capable of scoring 100 at will.
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He is now a number 8 level in ODI 6 is too high for him. Dunno what Gambhir is playing at seems he is mixing up formats and basing Jedja LOI batting on him being dependable in tests.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Collapse can happen at the top. You ar eputting them in a spot where they have to deliver every single match. That never happened for any team in history. At times you need help from lower order. Hwo do you think India suddenly started getting good in the mid 2000s while chasing? Because of Yuvraj , MSD, Raina. Rahul is not a regular middle order batsman. He is not like Yuvraj or MSD. HE is a part time keeper.
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you dnt have Yuvraj and Dhoni anymore. cant blame Ghambhir for this. India played best possible eleven Considering pandya is either Injured or Rested and not left out because of Gambhir
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Collapse can happen at the top. You ar eputting them in a spot where they have to deliver every single match. That never happened for any team in history. At times you need help from lower order. Hwo do you think India suddenly started getting good in the mid 2000s while chasing? Because of Yuvraj , MSD, Raina. Rahul is not a regular middle order batsman. He is not like Yuvraj or MSD. HE is a part time keeper.
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too many excuses from you

you need to accept that you lost to NZ C bowling line up

can't believe you think pandya can bowl - have no idea what you been watching..


Start complementing NZ series win

like you stated at the start of the series = easy 3-0 win for india - you also stated that NZ can never beat india at home in a odi series.


Look at what you witnessed
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He is now a number 8 level in ODI 6 is too high for him. Dunno what Gambhir is playing at seems he is mixing up formats and basing Jedja LOI batting on him being dependable in tests.
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Im not saying Jadeja is perfect choice in Indian LOI eleven but India did nt loose because he was in 11.
 
Player Of The Match + Player Of The Series = Daryl Mitchell

Take a bow indians, he out played you badly

He was on :aag
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Im not saying Jadeja is perfect choice in Indian LOI eleven but India did nt loose because he was in 11.
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He was one o fthe major reason for decades. Filthy dart bowling. Rana who is not even a proper batsman showed more intent than Jadeja showed all his career. He is a selfish soft player in ODI. Axar is way better than him. Axar could be promoted at 4INdai to break the 5 right hander sequence.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
ok name the replacements
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I think you are wasting time with a mental patient. :qdkcheeky

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jnaveen1980 said:
He was one o fthe major reason for decades. Filthy dart bowling. Rana who is not even a proper batsman showed more intent than Jadeja showed all his career. He is a selfish soft player in ODI. Axar is way better than him. Axar could be promoted at 4INdai to break the 5 right hander sequence.
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you want to promote bits and pcs with another bits and pcs? how does Axar fit at 4 in ODIs? he has done well in t20 cricket. and this warrants same performance in ODIs? he has already played 70 ODIs
 
jnaveen1980 said:
It is not even the best squad lol It is Gambhir's squad. Jaddu's wife being a politican plays a massive role in his continued selection.
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that make no sense.


your crying really badly


stop your tamtrums and weird theories = its gambhir / jadeja = we all get ya, (sarcasm)


are you seriously ok , cmon deal with losing to NZ C team better, look even @Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Devadwal have atleast ran away from this thread
 
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Good series win for NZ, well done to them. India’s top order batters need to take more responsibility, those tame dismissals don’t help the team and Kohli alone cannot do it - He’ll fail at times and it’s a team game. Good defeat to have I’d say - there are more lessons learned in defeats than wins.
 
Nothing like an Indian defeat to bring out several locals & the usual India baiting parasites out 😝

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Amazing how quickly anyone playing India & doing well becomes their latest abbu!
This thread is 6 pages - I'll bet another 6 pages minimum will be added.
End of the day - well played New Zealand, India were not good enough today or in the series - NZ deserving winners.
Bring on the T20's & Hope our u-19 gets one across NZ U-19..
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
you want to promote bits and pcs with another bits and pcs? how does Axar fit at 4 in ODIs? he has done well in t20 cricket. and this warrants same performance in ODIs? he has already played 70 ODIs
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Axar is a floater.He is way better batting option than him. Eventually India will go with guys like Abhishek sharma, Riyan paragh both can bowl. Pandya in place of Reddy.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Nothing like an Indian defeat to bring out several locals & the usual India baiting parasites out 😝

Traffic increase!

Amazing how quickly anyone playing India & doing well becomes their latest abbu!
This thread is 6 pages - I'll bet another 6 pages minimum will be added.
End of the day - well played New Zealand, India were not good enough today or in the series - NZ deserving winners.
Bring on the T20's & Hope our u-19 gets one across NZ U-19..
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All vanished from under-19 thread after England tharshed them lol Don't they realize current pakistan gives us so many opportunity to troll them lol
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Floater is not bits and pcs?
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Since Paragh is injured for now next best option they can try is Axar. Then we have whole bunch of young all rounders coming through who are way better than these guys. Abhishek sharma started his career as a bowler. He will soon come in.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He is one of the reasons for sure bro. Finished in this format
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Finished in this format like 5 yearsback. One of the most over-rated player ever to play for India in ODIs. Not a single time stepped up in a game. He just doesn't have power hitting game that is required for LOIs. It is also a travesty he played multiple T20 world cups.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Finished in this format like 5 yearsback. One of the most over-rated player ever to play for India in ODIs. Not a single time stepped up in a game. He just doesn't have power hitting game that is required for LOIs. It is also a travesty he played multiple T20 world cups.
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Gambhir didn't get things right.

I think I said to you before he has some credit in the bank coz he has won trophies, but his methods is crazy here. Long tail and bowlers is bits and pieces. No rest given to prominent seniors. Is his hands tied by commercial obligation? What did India gain by Kohli bashing these new bowlers in a series?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
You cant equate Pak with India Right now in cricket. its not *** for tat troll here

a billion $ team loosing to bunch of kids is a news
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Ya 31 year old with vast experience is a kid lol Darryl mitchell is a kid, Conway is akid, Bracewell is a kid. GLen philips is a kid. Jamieson is a kid . Wonder why their "Non-kids" lost in world cup match twice. India missing Pandya biggest balancer , Bumrah is no big deal. INdia also lost shami recently. Siraj was let out of ODi unit a while back. He is just being used as filler for now.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Gambhir didn't get things right.

I think I said to you before he has some credit in the bank coz he has won trophies, but his methods is crazy here. Long tail and bowlers is bits and pieces. No rest given to prominent seniors. Is his hands tied by commercial obligation? What did India gain by Kohli bashing these new bowlers in a series?
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RUturaj after a 100 dropped. Jaiswal after a 100 dropped. They made GIll captain so that they can't drop him. This series should have been used for experimenting a few more batsmen. Because Rohit and Kohli don't play other formats and Kohli pulls crowd they have to play. But Gill can't be dropped. Iyer is just back from injury so he needs some time out there. KL Rahul is the keeper. After that it is one of the worst lower middle order. Even Afghanistan has Nabi. Nabi > Jadeja even at this age
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Ya 31 year old with vast experience is a kid lol Darryl mitchell is a kid, Conway is akid, Bracewell is a kid. GLen philips is a kid. Jamieson is a kid . Wonder why their "Non-kids" lost in world cup match twice. India missing Pandya biggest balancer , Bumrah is no big deal. INdia also lost shami recently. Siraj was let out of ODi unit a while back. He is just being used as filler for now.
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who was the bowler besides Jamieson? i have nt heard of them
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Since Paragh is injured for now next best option they can try is Axar. Then we have whole bunch of young all rounders coming through who are way better than these guys. Abhishek sharma started his career as a bowler. He will soon come in.
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can he handle a NZ C bowler

i think not
 
jnaveen1980 said:
RUturaj after a 100 dropped. Jaiswal after a 100 dropped. They made GIll captain so that they can't drop him. This series should have been used for experimenting a few more batsmen. Because Rohit and Kohli don't play other formats and Kohli pulls crowd they have to play. But Gill can't be dropped. Iyer is just back from injury so he needs some time out there. KL Rahul is the keeper. After that it is one of the worst lower middle order. Even Afghanistan has Nabi. Nabi > Jadeja even at this age
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i feel part of your pain,

but losing to NZ c bowling line up - AT HOME

embarrasing
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
Finished in this format like 5 yearsback. One of the most over-rated player ever to play for India in ODIs. Not a single time stepped up in a game. He just doesn't have power hitting game that is required for LOIs. It is also a travesty he played multiple T20 world cups.
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I have seen Harbhajan Singh win games for India with the bat from tight situations but never seen Jadeja do such a thing. The only time he almost won a game was against New Zealand in 2013 and that game was tied

Very overrated in ODIs. Impressive stats , low impact player
 
India need to replace Gautam Gambhir with some better and neutral coach like Rahul Dravid or Ravi Shastri.. this BJP politician doing more harm than good to team India..he can't keep the team united.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Ya 31 year old with vast experience is a kid lol Darryl mitchell is a kid, Conway is akid, Bracewell is a kid. GLen philips is a kid. Jamieson is a kid . Wonder why their "Non-kids" lost in world cup match twice. India missing Pandya biggest balancer , Bumrah is no big deal. INdia also lost shami recently. Siraj was let out of ODi unit a while back. He is just being used as filler for now.
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excuses excuses,

anyone can say who won in the past,

but its all about recent and today

NZ WON easily today
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
i understand the frustration

Foulkes
Clarke
lennox

this was pretty much novice attack
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Yea.. why are you ignoring poor undeveloped pace attack of India.When you have scoreboard pressure teams can lose their way even againts ordinary bowlers especially if your batting unit is light. Pray tell me who won man of the match and man of the series?
 
commentary at the end:

A great game, a great series in fact. A pleasure to watch and bring it to you. Hope you had fun tuning in as well. A historic series win for NZ, they could win a T20I series on this trip too. There'll be more from this game over the couple of days. Do check that out catch us for the T20Is. Thanks again for joining, take care and goodnight.

Bracewell collects the trophy from BCCI President, Mithun Manhas. He then goes to the Winners corner and a couple of cheers go up before players take time with the trophy.

Michael Bracewell, NZ Captain: Always a pressure to come and play here. First time a NZ team has won an ODI series here, that's special. You always hope to come here and play good cricket. As a group, we've stuck to what we do well. We're the sum of all the parts of the team and work as a group. We're a small country from the bottom of the world and take on big ones. Mitchell's been amazing in ODIs for a number of years. He's a humble guy, seeing him get his rewards is special. Having three debutants this series and getting to experience the crowds has been cool. Growing the depth of cricket in NZ is awesome.

Daryl Mitchell, POTM and POTS: It's really nice to contribute and to win over here. The way we built partnerships, with Young and GP. Always nice to get stuck into moments with your mates. I'm just trying to concentrate on being present, watch the ball and repeat, and make some good decisions. GP is a mate, awesome to see him get a 100. He's been out injured, proud of how he's come back. I love playing for my country, took a while to get here, domestic cricket taught a lot.

Shubman Gill, India captain: After the first game, coming here 1-1, the way we played was disappointing. Lot of areas need improving. Virat bhai's batting, Harshit's batting have been plusses. Fast bowlers have done well. Keeping WC in mind and where it will be, we want to give Nitish opportunities.

Jayden Lennox: Wouldn't say easy. Seeing a star-studded line-up, to put winning performances is special. Special to have our first one-day series here. I've not overcomplicated the game. I've played on small grounds. I pride myself to do well at the death and create pressure in the middle. Aim of left-arm spin bowling in short-form cricket is not to be predictable, not let batters get underneath or step-hit. Atmosphere, I thought it'd make me more nervous than it did. Relatively inexperienced unit, performing in high-pressure environment. Kudos to the set up in NZ operating at the moment.
 
saabir said:
India need to replace Gautam Gambhir with some better and neutral coach like Rahul Dravid or Ravi Shastri.. this BJP politician doing more harm than good to team India..he can't keep the team united.
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Problem with Gambhir is not his politics. Its his tinkerman tactics. His penchant for experimentation

Both Dravid & Shastri are BJP guys but they wer sensible in decision making
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Yea.. why are you ignoring poor undeveloped pace attack of India.When you have scoreboard pressure teams can lose their way even againts ordinary bowlers especially if your batting unit is light. Pray tell me who won man of the match and man of the series?
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why does he need to tell you that - you watched the match , you didnt turn it off when you lost now did you ,


disgraceful if you did
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Yea.. why are you ignoring poor undeveloped pace attack of India.When you have scoreboard pressure teams can lose their way even againts ordinary bowlers especially if your batting unit is light. Pray tell me who won man of the match and man of the series?
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Barring Harshit who is relatively new , Rest of Indian attack was experienced

Siraj
Arshdeep
Kuldeep
Jadeja
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Barring Harshit who is relatively new , Rest of Indian attack was experienced

Siraj
Arshdeep
Kuldeep
Jadeja
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Not in ODI. Kuldeep is the only regualr. Jadja as i said has been useless for more than a decade. Lennox guy is 31 year old. He is not straight out ounder-19. He has vast experience like Harmer. On Indian pitches you don't have to be uber experienced to do well.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
They act all wised up and start bashing team selection as soon India looses at home. We heard same excuses when NZ thumped India 3-0 in Tests last year
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You are desperately trying to convince us that INdia played some great team to feell good about yourself
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
No im just enjoying the excuses
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No you are the one who is giving excuses for a team that is not even yours lol Atleast i give proper explanation as i follow India team lol Besides India beat them 3-0 in the recent iCC encounters. So they don't need to prove anything extra.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You are desperately trying to convince us that INdia played some great team to feell good about yourself
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wrere desperately to convince you,

not what you said when the xi was announced = you said you were gonna win 3-0 and thrash them.

yet looked what happened.


YOU LOST TO NZ AND TO THR C BOWLING LINEUP - BAR JAMIESON
 
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