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New Zealand vs Pakistan | 4th T20I | Mount Maunganui | March 23 | Pre-Match Discussion

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Pakistan delivered a sensational performance in the third T20I, keeping the series alive with a dominant 9-wicket victory over New Zealand. Chasing a challenging target of 205, Pakistan cruised to victory with four overs to spare, thanks to a brilliant maiden T20I century by Hasan Nawaz. Initially playing a supporting role, Nawaz took charge after Haris' departure, showcasing his skill with clean hitting and clever use of the ramp shot. The small dimensions of Eden Park and the dew factor added to New Zealand's struggles, as their bowlers found no answers to Pakistan's aggressive batting.

With the series now standing at 2-1 in favor of New Zealand, the stage is set for an exciting fourth game. Can Pakistan level the series, or will New Zealand secure the win?
 
Mount is the slowest track I think

Genuine 90mph bowlers feel like trundlers here.

I could be wrong though
Yeah pitch favours spin a bit
Omair should play over khushdil/samad as he is a good player of spin.
 
Series is alive, Pakistan have awoken up , bring it on let's hope we take it to the decider :ravi
 
So rana sahab ground size is similar to today ground and what are boundaries dimension.
It’s a normal sized ground if I recall. You should get value for shots.

This is the ground where Naseem Shah went at 5s when Kane Williamson racked up 250* in a Test match

Zafar Gohar wicketless too.
 
170-175 is a winning score in mount manganui.Pak should bat sensibly.
This lot need to keep going how they are

Keep telling them you need 200+

They will score those runs anyways or they will fall short trying
 
It’s a normal sized ground if I recall. You should get value for shots.

This is the ground where Naseem Shah went at 5s when Kane Williamson racked up 250* in a Test match

Zafar Gohar wicketless too.
Oh ok good to know this thanks pak should back these youngsters no matter in how many games they fail they are the future.
 
It’s a normal sized ground if I recall. You should get value for shots.

This is the ground where Naseem Shah went at 5s when Kane Williamson racked up 250* in a Test match

Zafar Gohar wicketless too.
170 is a par score there.
Win the toss and bat first kind of wicket.pitch become slower as match progresses
Abbas will be handful on that surface
 
This lot need to keep going how they are

Keep telling them you need 200+

They will score those runs anyways or they will fall short trying
Still they should play according to conditions,u can't be reckless with series on the line.
170 should be scored minimum on this ground.
 
Mount is the slowest track I think

Genuine 90mph bowlers feel like trundlers here.

I could be wrong though
Will be good for batting. Will be another battathon. Pak has to nail Seifert and Allen again. Those two wickets cost NZ about 35 to 40 runs.
 
Still they should play according to conditions,u can't be reckless with series on the line.
170 should be scored minimum on this ground.
Mate you are making the mistake of overthinking. That creates confusion, and then that leads to indecisiveness

What’s worked for Pakistan today is to keep the foot on the peddle.

Kiwis are missing their proper bowlers who make 160-170 tough to get. We need to back ourselves and keep going. Winning or losing the series isn’t the priority here. The priority is to change the way you want to bat in T20s once and for all.
 
Will be good for batting. Will be another battathon. Pak has to nail Seifert and Allen again. Those two wickets cost NZ about 35 to 40 runs.
Exactly

That was the key, those two easily bat Pakistan out of the match.
 
But but but we want to play attaacckking cricket! :moyo
We want to play attacking cricket,not mindless cricket.
There is a difference between attacking cricket and brainless slogging.Todays chase was perfect attacking cricket.
:ds
 
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Not sure why you guys worry about series T20 series wins. They should continue playing the dame way at the risk of losing the series. Nobody remembers T20 bilateral series wins
They already matched the record of RizBar on last tour (lost 1-4). They should indeed continue to play their natural game.
 
Yes with Rana here this series is about changing the mindset and showing intent the series result is not important we are already qualified for main round of World Cup next year just keep going the fear of losing that has creeped in our game has to be removed that can only happen with positive play
 
A lot of horse about NZ b/c team…

This is a strong NZ side mainly because they don’t have Kane Williamson hampering them down with needless tuk tuk

The guys who walk into this team are Ravindra, Phillips, Santner and Possibly O’Rourke. Not convinced with Conway at the moment either, who does he replace?


The only key/clutch players that walk into this Pakistan team are Fakhar and Saim.
 
A lot of horse about NZ b/c team…

This is a strong NZ side mainly because they don’t have Kane Williamson hampering them down with needless tuk tuk

The guys who walk into this team are Ravindra, Phillips, Santner and Possibly O’Rourke. Not convinced with Conway at the moment either, who does he replace?


The only key/clutch players that walk into this Pakistan team are Fakhar and Saim.
Yes bowling is almost full strength barring Santner , Rourke is good but not head and shoulders above those who are playing
 
Yes bowling is almost full strength barring Santner , Rourke is good but not head and shoulders above those who are playing
Matt henry,ferguson is missing so no it's not near enough full strength.
 
Wanna see Pak middle/lower order make some runs and Shadab to take some wkts ... we're still short of a genuine 2nd spinner who can take wkts and make some runs; we"re missing our Bracewell.
 
I wrote on game #3 match thread that Pakistan should chase. They indeed successfully chased it down.

In T20, it is better to chase particularly if your bowling is struggling.

Pakistan should look to chase again.
 
I wrote on game #3 match thread that Pakistan should chase. They indeed successfully chased it down.

In T20, it is better to chase particularly if your bowling is struggling.

Pakistan should look to chase again.
Yeah when grounds are small, then it is better to chase anyways.
Salman made a right call then. I hope we can see another game going in Pakistan's favor
 
Are we expecting any changes for this game???? Maybe play sufiyan and Usman for Khushdil and Abrar???
 
Time to give OBY a chance and play him at 4.

Irfran Niazi seems to be another attempt for the nexus to assert themselves into this new team, we must remain vigilant as I can assure you that the gang of 4 his planning a coup and will swoop like vultures when our team underperforms

Usman Khan at 5 with Shadab being rested is also a shout
 
Time to give OBY a chance and play him at 4.

Irfran Niazi seems to be another attempt for the nexus to assert themselves into this new team, we must remain vigilant as I can assure you that the gang of 4 his planning a coup and will swoop like vultures when our team underperforms

Usman Khan at 5 with Shadab being rested is also a shout
Bro I feel you, but it won’t be as simple this time. It will fall face flat like it did for Babar taking the T20 captaincy from Shaheen.

I sense the mood is finally changing towards these vultures. You really won’t be able to justify the 160-180 approach anymore having proven that you can play the high risk game. They won’t be spared.
 
Time to give OBY a chance and play him at 4.

Irfran Niazi seems to be another attempt for the nexus to assert themselves into this new team, we must remain vigilant as I can assure you that the gang of 4 his planning a coup and will swoop like vultures when our team underperforms

Usman Khan at 5 with Shadab being rested is also a shout
Don't sleep on Irfan Khan. He has immense potential.
 
We should look to get 200+ here batting first. Its a slow wicket which should suit our batsmen. Remember Umar Amin hitting 3 sixes here against spin. That guy was better T20 batsman than RizBabar.
 
We should look to get 200+ here batting first. Its a slow wicket which should suit our batsmen. Remember Umar Amin hitting 3 sixes here against spin. That guy was better T20 batsman than RizBabar.
Yeah umar amin was unfairly treated.
 
Irfan must bat at 5 not 4.
OBY should bat at 4.
OBY is too short and conventional for number 4. He can only bat as an opener in T20s (maybe 3) and there he is facing immense competition. My lineup for tomorrow.

Hassan
Omair
Usman
Shadab
Salman
Niazi
Sammad
Jahandad
Abbas
Mohammad Ali
Sufyan
 
OBY is too short and conventional for number 4. He can only bat as an opener in T20s (maybe 3) and there he is facing immense competition. My lineup for tomorrow.

Hassan
Omair
Usman
Shadab
Salman
Niazi
Sammad
Jahandad
Abbas
Mohammad Ali
Sufyan

I wouldn't rest haris after just one good game. Let them build on their success from last game, let's see some growth. Let's see what this major confidence boost does. This is uncharted territory for us, an opportunity to usher in a new era.

On the other hand usman too needs to play. So I'd rest Niazi/Samad for him.
 
I wouldn't rest haris after just one good game. Let them build on their success from last game, let's see some growth. Let's see what this major confidence boost does. This is uncharted territory for us, an opportunity to usher in a new era.

On the other hand usman too needs to play. So I'd rest Niazi/Samad for him.
Its better to not play Usman at all if we are playing him in middle or lower order.
 
Wanna see Pak middle/lower order make some runs and Shadab to take some wkts ... we're still short of a genuine 2nd spinner who can take wkts and make some runs; we"re missing our Bracewell.
Need Arafat but he is not in the squad.
I would also give Suffain try, Abrar has been playing continuously for Pakistan in all formats without key performance.
 
Irfan must bat at 5 not 4.
OBY should bat at 4.
I don't think Omair fits in pur T20 side. He's a top 3 player and it would potentially ruin him in trying to fit him in middle order.

He better focus on List A and FC. That format I see him succeeding
 
Yup ... Ive heard a lot about Arafat and some posters have mentioned Qasim Akram? Lets see if they can fill that crucial no 7 spot?

Khushdil is not the 2nd genuine spinner we need, cos he isnt, he's a batter who bowls a bit like Salman.

You're right Abrar needing a break and Moqeem needs to be given a chance.
 
Sufyaan in for Abrar and Jahandad for shaheen and Irfan khan for Khushdil.

Squad Rotation is important.

Look to chase if we win the toss.

Starting X1

Hassan
M Haris
Omair
Salman
Shaddy
IK
Abdul Samad
Jahandad
Abbas Afridi
H Rauf
Sufyaan
 
I think they will go with unchanged 11 if they lose then we will see changes in final match hopefully
 
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