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No Maccabi Tel Aviv fans allowed at Villa match - Is the ban fair?

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The top politicians in the UK are trying to change this ban now .

Israel is not in Europe, their fans are openly racist and violent. Birmingham is not a city where they can wonder the streets praising killings of babies.

The ban is correct but should be more, all Israeli clubs should be banned from football esp since Russian clubs have been.

Anyone disagree? @Hindutva football fans

 
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No they shouldn't be banned, the government and authorities have as usual been toothless and banning them just pins the blame on the Muslims of Birmingham as Rupert Lowe is trying to do.

Nobody has mentioned the ban is for their actions, they are saying it's for their safety.

If you agree that they play in UEFA tournaments then it's your job to police them.

Let the Israelis come and expose their thuggery to the world, but don't ban them without giving the true reasons and lay the blame at feet of people of Birmingham.
 
Excellent decision. They are known for their thuggery and far right rhetoric.

Its amazing how brutal killers play as victims.

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Former British-Israeli hostage Emily Damari, a Maccabi Tel Aviv and Tottenham Hotspur supporter, says she is "shocked to her core with this outrageous decision" and has urged authorities to reconsider.

Damari, who was held by Hamas for 471 days and appeared on Maccabi Tel Aviv’s Bloomfield Stadium turf after her release, says the decision is like putting a sign outside the stadium saying "no Jews allowed".

"Football is a way of bringing people together irrespective of their faith, colour or religion and this disgusting decision does the exact opposite," she adds.

"What has become of the UK where blatant antisemitism has become the norm. What a sad world we are living in.""

 
No they shouldn't be banned, the government and authorities have as usual been toothless and banning them just pins the blame on the Muslims of Birmingham as Rupert Lowe is trying to do.

Nobody has mentioned the ban is for their actions, they are saying it's for their safety.

If you agree that they play in UEFA tournaments then it's your job to police them.

Let the Israelis come and expose their thuggery to the world, but don't ban them without giving the true reasons and lay the blame at feet of people of Birmingham.
Let them cry.

Imo it could have been far worse blame put on Muslims if these zionists were found wondering around Aston or other parts of Birmingham, potential deaths. Birmingham is not like many cities around the world, its a no go zone for Zionists. Not a single far right group has ever marched through the multicultural areas of Brum for a good reason.
 
Let them cry.

Imo it could have been far worse blame put on Muslims if these zionists were found wondering around Aston or other parts of Birmingham, potential deaths. Birmingham is not like many cities around the world, its a no go zone for Zionists. Not a single far right group has ever marched through the multicultural areas of Brum for a good reason.
British government has bungled it. Starmer blaming anti semitism instead of the fans behaviour.

Let them wander. Police should be protecting them, and if they misbehave they will be exposed badly.

Banning them let's them play victim.
 
The posters who were crying about India's refusal to shake hands with Pak counterparts are the same one celebrating this ban.

No sports fan should be ban based on the action of its govt or state. Should Pakistan fans be banned for sheltering Osama Bin Laden who killed thosuand of western people?

Not sure who is the owner of Aston Villa but this will only make Britain's right wing more strong. Next election, Farage will win more decisively. If 13th sept was not a lesson for some, wonder what will be.
 
British government has bungled it. Starmer blaming anti semitism instead of the fans behaviour.

Let them wander. Police should be protecting them, and if they misbehave they will be exposed badly.

Banning them let's them play victim.

They have been playing the victim for a 100 years. In the last 2 years, the British elite who are compromised have been calling them the victims, hostages etc.

British people have seen through this bs. The only thing which could make it worse is if a few or many of their fans are killed in violence, which wont happen now.

The British government are trying to pressure the West Mids Police to change this decision but so far they are holding firm.
 
The posters who were crying about India's refusal to shake hands with Pak counterparts are the same one celebrating this ban.

No sports fan should be ban based on the action of its govt or state. Should Pakistan fans be banned for sheltering Osama Bin Laden who killed thosuand of western people?

Not sure who is the owner of Aston Villa but this will only make Britain's right wing more strong. Next election, Farage will win more decisively. If 13th sept was not a lesson for some, wonder what will be.

This was a police decision not made by politicians. At least try to understand the basics before crying for your Zionist heros.

Btw as an immigrant in the UK as a visitor, you should support this decision.
 
British government has bungled it. Starmer blaming anti semitism instead of the fans behaviour.

Let them wander. Police should be protecting them, and if they misbehave they will be exposed badly.

Banning them let's them play victim.

Authorities have seen their behavior across Europe during the Games and taken the decision based on that.

Knowing Starmer. This Poodle will fight Tooth and Nail to get this overturned
 
No they shouldn't be banned, the government and authorities have as usual been toothless and banning them just pins the blame on the Muslims of Birmingham as Rupert Lowe is trying to do.

Nobody has mentioned the ban is for their actions, they are saying it's for their safety.

If you agree that they play in UEFA tournaments then it's your job to police them.

Let the Israelis come and expose their thuggery to the world, but don't ban them without giving the true reasons and lay the blame at feet of people of Birmingham.

Agree. I don't see any reason to draw attention to this. If they come to Birmingham and cause trouble, then it's on them if they get a good kicking. The police are there to deal with any hooliganism, my only concern would be the media would probably spin the zionist supporters as being victims rather than the perpetrators.
 
israeli football clubs should have no place in any European football competitions in the first place. They should be kicked out immediately and told to go compete in the equivalent Asian tournament. The middle east is in no way part of Europe. Might as well allow Brazilian or Mexican teams to compete in the Champions League in that case.
 
These extremist like to play the victim card as a Past time. They have no place in Sporting events.


Many of their chants are illegal. A woman was arrested for calling a politician a coconut. So surely these scmbags who should death to babies and racist rants should also be arrested.

The Israeli fans know they have police protection and in numbers try to attack easy targets but they are not ultras or renowned for their combat skills. The Villa fans or ordinary brummies would tear them up.
 
A good compromise would be israel moved into the equivalent Asian tournament, and as a welcome back to Asian football, they could play an exhibition match in Kabul. The team could be introduced to the crowd along with an Indian delegation to cement Indian and israeli nations places in Afghan hearts. What a result! :D
 
Authorities have seen their behavior across Europe during the Games and taken the decision based on that.

Knowing Starmer. This Poodle will fight Tooth and Nail to get this overturned
They should explicitly mention it.

No point fence setting. It allows gutless politicians to blame us Muslims for anti semitism.
 
A good compromise would be israel moved into the equivalent Asian tournament, and as a welcome back to Asian football, they could play an exhibition match in Kabul. The team could be introduced to the crowd along with an Indian delegation to cement Indian and israeli nations places in Afghan hearts. What a result! :D

Great idea! Let Israeli clubs play in the Indian Super League, after the match all Israeli players will receive one of Modis tight hugs, win or lose.
 
This was a police decision not made by politicians. At least try to understand the basics before crying for your Zionist heros.

Btw as an immigrant in the UK as a visitor, you should support this decision.

Then why were you crying when Indian players refused to shake hands with Pakistanis? Why crying about bringing politics in sports? India also has all the right to take a stand against Pak sponsored terrorism na?
 
Then why were you crying when Indian players refused to shake hands with Pakistanis? Why crying about bringing politics in sports? India also has all the right to take a stand against Pak sponsored terrorism na?

Are you slow? This is a POLICE decision not political.

Btw I wouldnt shake hands with a Hindutva so no issues for me what took pla.ce

To compare this subject with the handshakes is foolish at best.

Again, these zionists spout racism, they hate dark brown people who are not dressed as westerners and who have an accent. This ban means many Indians here on visas are also safe. Be thankful
:sachin
 
Gone through some posts. I dont know about the hooliganism of Israeli fans. So, cannot comment on the issue.

Birmingham is 30% Muslims populated now. Some posts threaten that Israeli fans will get attacked in Birmingham streets?? What difference is this from islamic extremism??

What Israel did was wrong to continue the war this long and sacrificing so many innocent lives. This ban gives a sympathy card for Israel in-fact which they don't deserve.
 
Are you slow? This is a POLICE decision not political.

Btw I wouldnt shake hands with a Hindutva so no issues for me what took pla.ce

To compare this subject with the handshakes is foolish at best.

Again, these zionists spout racism, they hate dark brown people who are not dressed as westerners and who have an accent. This ban means many Indians here on visas are also safe. Be thankful
:sachin

Police takes the decision keeping law and order in mind. We all saw the anti semitic incidents like the one in Manchester synagogue or violence in free Palestine protests. So this decision is more to stop chaos that Islamists would have caused in the game attended by Israeli fans. Its a step to stop further anti semitism. You are giving it a color as if police did it out of conscience...LOL.
 
Police takes the decision keeping law and order in mind. We all saw the anti semitic incidents like the one in Manchester synagogue or violence in free Palestine protests. So this decision is more to stop chaos that Islamists would have caused in the game attended by Israeli fans. Its a step to stop further anti semitism. You are giving it a color as if police did it out of conscience...LOL.

Try reading the police report on why these Zionists are banned.

""Following a thorough assessment, we have classified the upcoming Aston Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv fixture as high risk. "While the safety certificate is issued by Birmingham City Council, West Midlands Police supports the decision to prohibit away supporters from attending.""

I know English isnt your first language but their statement is clear and points to a security risk with these fans.

As a visitor in England, please respect the laws of our land and the decision of the police. This isnt Bombay
 
There's no way the police can police a fixture like this. They would need the army. People are furious with the Israelis over their actions in Gaza. I think the most sensible option was to hold this fixture at a neutral venue with empty stands. Somewhere like Copenhagen.
 
There's no way the police can police a fixture like this. They would need the army. People are furious with the Israelis over their actions in Gaza. I think the most sensible option was to hold this fixture at a neutral venue with empty stands. Somewhere like Copenhagen.

This is what these politicians want in the UK. They want some violence, a few Israeli supporters bashed in , maybe a couple killed to further their support/propaganda to justify Israeli crimes and their ownership over most politicians in UK
 
Try reading the police report on why these Zionists are banned.

""Following a thorough assessment, we have classified the upcoming Aston Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv fixture as high risk. "While the safety certificate is issued by Birmingham City Council, West Midlands Police supports the decision to prohibit away supporters from attending.""

I know English isnt your first language but their statement is clear and points to a security risk with these fans.

As a visitor in England, please respect the laws of our land and the decision of the police. This isnt Bombay

Lol what is police saying different to what I am saying?

Ofcourse this fixture is high risk. But high risk from whom?

As you yourself said Zionists will be found dead if they walk around in Birmingham. So it is clear, the police here is talking about threats Israeli fans will face from muslims if they attend this football match.

Why dnt you show where police said they are banning Israeli fans as they are racists?

I know you opened this thread thinking no one would catch your lies but it has backfired spectacularly. This ban only shows how intolerant and anti semitic certain sections of society has become. If anything this will increase the sympathy for Israelis and you guys will be known as closet anti semite
 
Lol what is police saying different to what I am saying?

Ofcourse this fixture is high risk. But high risk from whom?

As you yourself said Zionists will be found dead if they walk around in Birmingham. So it is clear, the police here is talking about threats Israeli fans will face from muslims if they attend this football match.

Why dnt you show where police said they are banning Israeli fans as they are racists?

I know you opened this thread thinking no one would catch your lies but it has backfired spectacularly. This ban only shows how intolerant and anti semitic certain sections of society has become. If anything this will increase the sympathy for Israelis and you guys will be known as closet anti semite

You are slow.

"West Midlands Police also said they have classified the Aston Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv fixture as high risk based on "current intelligence and previous incidents".

This clearly points to their previous disorder and violence by their fans.

You can keep begging for Zionists to be allowed but you are NOT British, you are here as a guest who is allowed to earn money, so treat the land with respect. Or go back to India and lobby Modi to allow them to play Bombay Aloo XI.
 
I think the ban is correct

I don’t think these Macabi Tel Aviv fans will be safe in Birmingham the way they were in Amsterdam.
 
You are slow.

"West Midlands Police also said they have classified the Aston Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv fixture as high risk based on "current intelligence and previous incidents".

This clearly points to their previous disorder and violence by their fans.

You can keep begging for Zionists to be allowed but you are NOT British, you are here as a guest who is allowed to earn money, so treat the land with respect. Or go back to India and lobby Modi to allow them to play Bombay Aloo XI.

You keep on repeating Modi, Bombay aloo and taking personal jibe at me will not stop me from asking tough questions. If you think these jibes will hurt my feeling and I will stop engaging, think again. I am a trained debater and know how to pull strings.

Pls show where has police said this match is high risk due to past behavious by Israeli fans?

Anyone that has basic sense of comprehension skills would conclude from that police statement that the match is high risk since its been played in Birmingham and there can be more anti semitic attack like the one in synagogue. Well, in this thread itself one poster said he is disappointed as he was preparing to give them warm welcome.

In a sports, all fans must have the right to attend. However, due to Islamist threats, police is banning Israeli fans fron attending the match is a telling story about Great Britain. Imagine is muslim fans are banned in some part of the world, you would have played every possible victim card by now.

As I said, this will only bring bad name in your community and will increase sympathy for Israelis. There is a world outside Birmingham afterall.
 
You keep on repeating Modi, Bombay aloo and taking personal jibe at me will not stop me from asking tough questions. If you think these jibes will hurt my feeling and I will stop engaging, think again. I am a trained debater and know how to pull strings.

Pls show where has police said this match is high risk due to past behavious by Israeli fans?

Anyone that has basic sense of comprehension skills would conclude from that police statement that the match is high risk since its been played in Birmingham and there can be more anti semitic attack like the one in synagogue. Well, in this thread itself one poster said he is disappointed as he was preparing to give them warm welcome.

In a sports, all fans must have the right to attend. However, due to Islamist threats, police is banning Israeli fans fron attending the match is a telling story about Great Britain. Imagine is muslim fans are banned in some part of the world, you would have played every possible victim card by now.

As I said, this will only bring bad name in your community and will increase sympathy for Israelis. There is a world outside Birmingham afterall.

Your ignoring other facts. Israeli fans behavior in European competitions during games has stirred up real hatred.
towards them. This is likely to be the Prime reason.
 
You keep on repeating Modi, Bombay aloo and taking personal jibe at me will not stop me from asking tough questions. If you think these jibes will hurt my feeling and I will stop engaging, think again. I am a trained debater and know how to pull strings.

Pls show where has police said this match is high risk due to past behavious by Israeli fans?

Anyone that has basic sense of comprehension skills would conclude from that police statement that the match is high risk since its been played in Birmingham and there can be more anti semitic attack like the one in synagogue. Well, in this thread itself one poster said he is disappointed as he was preparing to give them warm welcome.

In a sports, all fans must have the right to attend. However, due to Islamist threats, police is banning Israeli fans fron attending the match is a telling story about Great Britain. Imagine is muslim fans are banned in some part of the world, you would have played every possible victim card by now.

As I said, this will only bring bad name in your community and will increase sympathy for Israelis. There is a world outside Birmingham afterall.

You’re one of the worst debaters on this forum lol previous incidents should have given you clue .

and again all guests get here from India on visas , allowing them to earn a living should respect the nations police or return to their homeland .and what’s wrong with a Bombay aloo xi v tel Aviv ?
 
I think the ban is correct

I don’t think these Macabi Tel Aviv fans will be safe in Birmingham the way they were in Amsterdam.
Why? The Muslims in Birmingham(Mostly Pak and BD) will become violent and attack Israeli fans?
 
Your ignoring other facts. Israeli fans behavior in European competitions during games has stirred up real hatred.
towards them. This is likely to be the Prime reason.


No surprise that highly trained debater @Rajdeep is pretending not to see this comment. israeli fans are coming to these areas and bringing their obnoxious murderous chants with them. Obviously it will create flashpoints if they do this outside the ground in Muslim populated areas. Inside the ground they should be ok.
 
Why? The Muslims in Birmingham(Mostly Pak and BD) will become violent and attack Israeli fans?

Thank you to another Hindutva fan for commenting. The police used previous incidents of the zionist supporters to ban them, which to a 5 year old would suggest they have been violent visiting other cities. Anyone in Bham has a right to self defence and its a city where people from all sorts of faiths and backgrounds would give them a good hiding...apart from Hindutva extremists who may be idiotic and join in with them to taking a beating too.
 
You’re one of the worst debaters on this forum lol previous incidents should have given you clue .

and again all guests get here from India on visas , allowing them to earn a living should respect the nations police or return to their homeland .and what’s wrong with a Bombay aloo xi v tel Aviv ?

Again...no response to my questions.

Why dont you show me where police has said they banned Israeli Supporters due to their past incidents?

Khan chacha...bewkoof fellow Brummies ko banao. Not educated people like us.
 
How is chant different from 'from the river to the see'??
"An early Zionist slogan envisaged statehood extending over the two banks of the Jordan river, and when that vision proved impractical, it was substituted by the idea of a Greater Israel, an entity conceived as extending from the Jordan to the sea. The phrase has also been used by Israeli politicians".
 
No surprise that highly trained debater @Rajdeep is pretending not to see this comment. israeli fans are coming to these areas and bringing their obnoxious murderous chants with them. Obviously it will create flashpoints if they do this outside the ground in Muslim populated areas. Inside the ground they should be ok.

Even if we assume all the rowdy and sensitive chants come from Israelis and muslims are all innocents, this still doesnt justify the ban or makes what I am saying as false.

Fans do make various chants. Any racism or murderous chants must be dealt with Villa security stuff. That is their headache. However, police has decided to ban them simply because they are aprhenesive of more anti semitic attack like the one we saw a synagogue in Manchester.

So my point still holds true, this ban is due to security threats from Islamists against Jews and not due to some past actions or Israeli fans being racists etc. The impression Khan was slowly peddling in first few posts before I caught his lie.

Only brother @DeadlyVenom has called it right from the begginning.
 
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Even if we assume all the rowdy and sensitive chants come from Israelis and muslims are all innocents, this still doesnt justify the ban or makes what I am saying as false.

Fans do make various chants. Any racism or murderous chants must be dealt with Villa security stuff. That is their headache. However, police has decided to ban them simply because they are aprhenesive of more anti semitic attack like the one we saw a synagogue in Manchester.

So my point still holds true, this ban is due to security threats from Islamists against Jews and not due to some past actions or Israeli fans being racists etc. The impression Khan chancha was slowly peddling in first few posts before I caught his lie.

Only brother @DeadlyVenom has called it right from the begginning.
What an idiotic post.

Will the Villa security staff also be policing the city and stopping violence and hate rants across the city of Birmingham?
 
Thank you to another Hindutva fan for commenting. The police used previous incidents of the zionist supporters to ban them, which to a 5 year old would suggest they have been violent visiting other cities. Anyone in Bham has a right to self defence and its a city where people from all sorts of faiths and backgrounds would give them a good hiding...apart from Hindutva extremists who may be idiotic and join in with them to taking a beating too.
So Israeli fans went on a rampage and attacked Muslims in Birmingham before?

I don't know much about their history, but can you post any news source of them attacking Muslims in Birmingham?
 
Even if we assume all the rowdy and sensitive chants come from Israelis and muslims are all innocents, this still doesnt justify the ban or makes what I am saying as false.

Fans do make various chants. Any racism or murderous chants must be dealt with Villa security stuff. That is their headache. However, police has decided to ban them simply because they are aprhenesive of more anti semitic attack like the one we saw a synagogue in Manchester.

So my point still holds true, this ban is due to security threats from Islamists against Jews and not due to some past actions or Israeli fans being racists etc. The impression Khan chancha was slowly peddling in first few posts before I caught his lie.

Only brother @DeadlyVenom has called it right from the begginning.
Chill, they are being attacked for committing the worse crime the chosen ones could possibly commit, Genocide and ethnic cleansing.
 
Again...no response to my questions.

Why dont you show me where police has said they banned Israeli Supporters due to their past incidents?

Khan chacha...bewkoof fellow Brummies ko banao. Not educated people like us.

You like Modi love to make a complete fool of yourself.

""This decision is based on current intelligence and previous incidents, including violent clashes and hate crime offences that occurred during the 2024 UEFA Europa League match between Ajax and Maccabi Tel-Aviv in Amsterdam."


Respect our Police and laws or please go back to India and watch bombay aloo.
:sachin
 
So Israeli fans went on a rampage and attacked Muslims in Birmingham before?

I don't know much about their history, but can you post any news source of them attacking Muslims in Birmingham?

See post 47 and a tiny bit of research into European football would make you sound more clued up. The Zionist fans have a history of violence, hence the ban. This is simple even for Modi to understand.
 
See post 47 and a tiny bit of research into European football would make you sound more clued up. The Zionist fans have a history of violence, hence the ban. This is simple even for Modi to understand.
Football fans are known for their violence. Not denying that.

The question is, where is the evidence to show that Israeli fans attacked Muslims? The post I initially quoted that Israeli fans will not be safe in Birmingham. So why will they not be safe in Birmingham? Is it hinting towards Muslim mobs attacking Israeli fans? Just a question.
 
Football fans are known for their violence. Not denying that.

The question is, where is the evidence to show that Israeli fans attacked Muslims? The post I initially quoted that Israeli fans will not be safe in Birmingham. So why will they not be safe in Birmingham? Is it hinting towards Muslim mobs attacking Israeli fans? Just a question.

Its not hard, you're making up Bollywood scences from your imagination. These fans are known for violence, Muslims will defend themselves agianst anyone in Bham.

I know Hindutvas love to divert to attack Muslims but this has nothing to do with their faith, apart from these violent clowns abusing their faith.
 
Its not hard, you're making up Bollywood scences from your imagination. These fans are known for violence, Muslims will defend themselves agianst anyone in Bham.

I know Hindutvas love to divert to attack Muslims but this has nothing to do with their faith, apart from these violent clowns abusing their faith.
Again. You are the one making Lollywood fantasy stories.

I asked you to show me evidence of Israeli fans attacking innocent Muslims in Birmingham. Don't tell me Israeli fans rioted in the past. All soccer fans do. Most are drunk and known for their rowdy behavior.

Now tell me where is the evidence for Israeli fans attacking Muslims in the city of Birmingham. :mv
 
Again. You are the one making Lollywood fantasy stories.

I asked you to show me evidence of Israeli fans attacking innocent Muslims in Birmingham. Don't tell me Israeli fans rioted in the past. All soccer fans do. Most are drunk and known for their rowdy behavior.

Now tell me where is the evidence for Israeli fans attacking Muslims in the city of Birmingham. :mv

I never stated Israeli fans attacked Muslims lol. More Bollywood dreaming. Imo they would get their heads kicked off.
 
I never stated Israeli fans attacked Muslims lol. More Bollywood dreaming. Imo they would get their heads kicked off.
Not you. You just chimed in without reading the post I was responding too like usual.

For your convenience, I will explain. The poster said that Israeli fans will not be safe if they go to Birmingham. I responded by saying is it because Muslims will attack them there?.... You chimed in saying that Israeli team and fans are not allowed because their fans have a history of that. I asked for evidence of them attacking them. You started saying it is Bollywood dreams bla bla bla...

Looks like you are the one living in fantasy land and beating around the bush. Either provide the evidence or simply move on...
 
All this would be of no issue if consistency was at the fore.

Russia was banned for far less regarding Ukraine, whilst we have clubs from these Genocidal Monsters who are even allowed to Participate in European competition without any challenge. Its high Time, Israel is Banned from all international Competitions.
 
Not you. You just chimed in without reading the post I was responding too like usual.

For your convenience, I will explain. The poster said that Israeli fans will not be safe if they go to Birmingham. I responded by saying is it because Muslims will attack them there?.... You chimed in saying that Israeli team and fans are not allowed because their fans have a history of that. I asked for evidence of them attacking them. You started saying it is Bollywood dreams bla bla bla...

Looks like you are the one living in fantasy land and beating around the bush. Either provide the evidence or simply move on...

I was making a different point, which was very obvious. But of course you are a great debater like Rajdeep and want to divert to Muslims as your Hindutva mind craves on a daily basis.
 
All this would be of no issue if consistency was at the fore.

Russia was banned for far less regarding Ukraine, whilst we have clubs from these Genocidal Monsters who are even allowed to Participate in European competition without any challenge. Its high Time, Israel is Banned from all international Competitions.

Agreed

This half arsed strategy won't work.
 
Even if we assume all the rowdy and sensitive chants come from Israelis and muslims are all innocents, this still doesnt justify the ban or makes what I am saying as false.

Fans do make various chants. Any racism or murderous chants must be dealt with Villa security stuff. That is their headache. However, police has decided to ban them simply because they are aprhenesive of more anti semitic attack like the one we saw a synagogue in Manchester.

So my point still holds true, this ban is due to security threats from Islamists against Jews and not due to some past actions or Israeli fans being racists etc. The impression Khan chancha was slowly peddling in first few posts before I caught his lie.

Only brother @DeadlyVenom has called it right from the begginning.

This has to be the most senseless take in a long time, quite an achievement considering you've posted already in this thread.

What makes you think police would make a connection between football hooligans making crass chants and a terrorist incident in a synagogue? I mean how do you even connect these two points, let alone ascribe them to the police force who won't have your champion debating skills? 🤣
 
Certain Israeli Yahud can be very primitive people, hard for many sheep to see due to them spending billions in media campaigns to manipulate their image. Their diehard fans on here who are not Israeli nor Yahud will be the first to be spat at if they ever set foot in Israel.
 
The fury of the Muslim community towards the Israelis especially considering what happened in Gaza, Iran and other Arab countries should not be undermined anymore by the British government! This is not Isreal where these people are going to be protected, you are literally allowing racist thugs to walk into a lions den if you overturn this decision!
 
If there are deaths on the streets of Birmingham because of these fans being allowed…

Deaths of Isreali’s, the Police or the locals… then Starmer will have blood on his hands!

This idiot really aught to stay out of this one

But his Zionest Paymasters are on his case.
 
The top politicians in the UK are trying to change this ban now .

Israel is not in Europe, their fans are openly racist and violent. Birmingham is not a city where they can wonder the streets praising killings of babies.

The ban is correct but should be more, all Israeli clubs should be banned from football esp since Russian clubs have been.

Anyone disagree? @Hindutva football fans

No brainer 👍
 
But his Zionest Paymasters are on his case.
The donkey Starmer seriously needs a strong “channd” under his ears to wake him up and realise this isn’t a joke anymore.

You are literally putting the lives of thousands of people in danger here. It’s not about football. Galatasaray fans are known to be a nuisance but it’s something that authorities have accepted to deal with because it’s football related violence…

These fans are not football fans. It’s like hardline RSS Hindutva supporters being allowed to roam freely in Bradford and causing civil unrest, in fact 10 times worse. What do you think the outcome will be?
 
If there are deaths on the streets of Birmingham because of these fans being allowed…

Deaths of Isreali’s, the Police or the locals… then Starmer will have blood on his hands!

This idiot really aught to stay out of this one

The zionist fans will be counting on the police to protect them if they venture into Muslim strongholds making provocative chants or gestures. It will be better for everyone if the police show up strong on the day. If the fans behave themselves and don't try and antagonise local communities then they will have no problems.
 
The zionist fans will be counting on the police to protect them if they venture into Muslim strongholds making provocative chants or gestures. It will be better for everyone if the police show up strong on the day. If the fans behave themselves and don't try and antagonise local communities then they will have no problems.
It will be better for them if the ban is upheld.

They should be banned everywhere actually.
 
The donkey Starmer seriously needs a strong “channd” under his ears to wake him up and realise this isn’t a joke anymore.

You are literally putting the lives of thousands of people in danger here. It’s not about football. Galatasaray fans are known to be a nuisance but it’s something that authorities have accepted to deal with because it’s football related violence…

These fans are not football fans. It’s like hardline RSS Hindutva supporters being allowed to roam freely in Bradford and causing civil unrest, in fact 10 times worse. What do you think the outcome will be?

Good point. All over 18 Israelis have to join IDF. All of these fans would have been complicit in occupation , torture and some even killed people. These are not normal scarf wearing working class people going to the football. All should be in jail.
 
How is chant different from 'from the river to the see'??
How is River to the Sea an issue? How can you compare River to the Sea with Death to Arabs. One is a call for freedom and the other is a call for murder.

Also, Maccabi fans are thugs who caused problems in Amsterdam and then played victim when the people of Amsterdam responded to their thuggery. They have also caused issues within Israel.

A good decision to ban these thugs. Anyone that causes violence should be banned and it wasn’t a political decision. Your comparison of this to players not shaking hands is dumb.
 
Not you. You just chimed in without reading the post I was responding too like usual.

For your convenience, I will explain. The poster said that Israeli fans will not be safe if they go to Birmingham. I responded by saying is it because Muslims will attack them there?.... You chimed in saying that Israeli team and fans are not allowed because their fans have a history of that. I asked for evidence of them attacking them. You started saying it is Bollywood dreams bla bla bla...

Looks like you are the one living in fantasy land and beating around the bush. Either provide the evidence or simply move on...
Here is evidence of Maccabi causing mayhem in Amsterdam including attacking people.

 
Let them cry.

Imo it could have been far worse blame put on Muslims if these zionists were found wondering around Aston or other parts of Birmingham, potential deaths. Birmingham is not like many cities around the world, its a no go zone for Zionists. Not a single far right group has ever marched through the multicultural areas of Brum for a good reason.

The British government should just get rid of two birds with one stone: not host the Israelis, and deport you (and others with your opinion above) while they are at it.

Violence in Birmingham will shoot down by at least 40%.
 
Government 'doing everything' to overturn Maccabi Tel Aviv fan ban

The government has said it is "doing everything in our power" to overturn a ban on Maccabi Tel Aviv fans attending a football match in Birmingham and is exploring what additional resources could be required.

On Thursday, Aston Villa said the city's Safety Advisory Group (SAG) decided that fans of the Israeli club should not be permitted to attend the Europa League fixture on 6 November over safety concerns.

Facing mounting pressure to resolve the situation, the government said it was working with police and exploring what additional resources are required.

A meeting of the SAG to discuss the match is expected next week, the Home Office said.

"No one should be stopped from watching a football game simply because of who they are," a government spokesperson said.

They added the government was working with police and other bodies to ensure the game could "safely go ahead with all fans present".

After it was announced on Thursday, Sir Keir Starmer called the move to block fans attending "wrong", adding "we will not tolerate antisemitism on our streets". There has also been criticism from other party leaders.

The SAG, which advises the council on whether to issue safety certificates, will review the decision if West Midlands Police changes its risk assessment for the match, Birmingham City Council said.

On Thursday, West Midlands Police said it had classified the fixture as "high risk" based on current intelligence and previous incidents, including "violent clashes and hate crime offences" between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv fans before a match in Amsterdam in November 2024.

More than 60 people were arrested over the violence, which city officials described as a "toxic combination of antisemitism, hooliganism, and anger" over the war in Gaza, Israel and elsewhere in the Middle East.

The Home Office was briefed that restrictions on visiting fans might be imposed last week, but the BBC understands officials were not informed about the final decision until Thursday.

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said the revelation left the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, with "serious questions to answer" about why her department did "nothing" to avert the ban.

She said: "This is a weak government that fails to act when required."

A source close to Mahmood told the BBC that "this is categorically untrue".

"The first time the home secretary knew that the fans were being banned was last night," they

The decision has also been criticised by the Liberal Democrats and Reform UK, as well as Israeli government officials.

But the Green Party backed the decision, saying it was "irresponsible" for Starmer to question a local authority's safety decision.

Ayoub Khan, an independent MP for Birmingham Perry Barr who campaigned on a pro-Gaza platform in last year's general election, said the decision to ban fans was a "moral question" and not just about public safety.

Speaking on BBC's Politics Midlands, Khan said the rules applied to "Russian football teams which have been banned from European competitions because of their atrocities in Ukraine" should also "apply with Israeli football teams".

Khan, who has also raised concerns about safety and public order, said that even if additional resources were provided to West Midlands Police, the fans should not be allowed to attend, citing last year's violence in Amsterdam.

Emily Damari, a British-Israeli citizen who was held hostage in Gaza and released in January, said she was "shocked to my core with this outrageous decision".

Ms Damari, who described herself as a "die-hard fan of Maccabi Tel Aviv", said: "Football is a way of bringing people together irrespective of their faith, colour or religion and this disgusting decision does the exact opposite."

Several sporting events have seen protests over the war in Gaza, including in recent World Cup qualifiers.

Earlier this month, 22 people were arrested near the Ullevaal Stadium in Oslo when Israel's national team played Norway. Reports said tear gas was used after several demonstrators broke through police barriers.

A few days later, Israel's national team played its next qualifier against Italy in the northern city of Udine, where around 5,000 protesters took part in a march ahead of the game. Clashes with police broke out, with a number of people arrested.

In Spain on Wednesday, a protest over Euroleague's basketball game between Valencia and Hapoel Tel Aviv saw several people arrested.

BBC
 
Honestly, I'm fed up with how every single time they cry - Anti-Semitism like the boy who cried wolf.

If Macabi Tel Aviv didn't have fans who behaved like hoooligans and if they didn't chant genocidal things, they would have been allowed in.

Maybe these idiots need to sort out their violent fans first.
 
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