'No reprimand or charges against the Indian team for their behaviour in the 3rd Test' : ICC

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Match referee Andy Pycroft cautioned the Indian players for their on-field behaviour & stated that such incidents should be avoided in future. However there will be no reprimand or charges against the Indian team for their behaviour in the 3rd Test against South Africa <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvIND</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1482286810512478208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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[Zaz]

What a surprise Farcical but expected

Its disgustung how theres one rule for some teams and another for teams like india who can behave as they like on the field n literally get away with murder

The sport is fast becoming a joke

 

[James]

What a complete farce

 

[Romali_rotti]

Kohli was pathetic and so were the rest of the Indian brigade that kept sayings things into the stump mic...ICC didn't do their job here, should have been punished.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Match referee Andy Pycroft cautioned the Indian players for their on-field behaviour & stated that such incidents should be avoided in future. However there will be no reprimand or charges against the Indian team for their behaviour in the 3rd Test against South Africa <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvIND</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1482286810512478208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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So here's my thing.

If this was not something worth a reprimand, what exactly was the reason for Match Referee to speak to management?

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Once again a lack of consistency from match officials:<br><br>Kagiso Rabada - 15% fine, one demerit point leading to a one match ban<br><br>Virat Kohli - no action taken<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/uv6oyOQTnJ">pic.twitter.com/uv6oyOQTnJ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1482289534658392066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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[Rajdeep]

What a surprise Farcical but expected

Its disgustung how theres one rule for some teams and another for teams like india who can behave as they like on the field n literally get away with murder

The sport is fast becoming a joke

They didnt do any banworthy offence for ICC to punish. Playes didnt complain against the on-field umpires, broken any rules or argued with any ICC authorities. We regularly pick up so many cheesy statements on stump mic and classify them as sledgings. How many gets punished for those? Fox Sports even mute commentary sometimes and put the volumes up of stump mic for viewers to listen and enjoy.

What Kohli, Ash and Rahul did would go down as stump mic sledging. There is no difference when Tim Paine says 'You seriously cant like him as a bloke' or ' Do you babysit' or 'Come to Gabba Ash' to what Indian players said here like 'Its entire country against XI boys' or 'there are better way of winning supersports'. The only difference being instead of sleding the fellow players, they sledge the broadcasters.

So not banworthy offence and ICC did the right thing.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

What did Indian team do?

ICC is racist for ony fining Rabada, always fine the weak.

But it's good that white men's sport is being dominated by the Brown Men, feels good in a way. Not gonna lie

 

[Ab Fan]

ICC is scared of Kohli and his men .

 

[U$ofA]

What a surprise Farcical but expected

Its disgustung how theres one rule for some teams and another for teams like india who can behave as they like on the field n literally get away with murder

The sport is fast becoming a joke

What a complete farce

What is the ICC scared of?

Looks like the ICC finds this acceptable. Or are they scared of something and as a result not doing anything.

 

[Babeikh]

Farce and embarrassing to laughably ludicrous levels to see a poster above saying it was right decision by ICC, LOL

 

[shah9425]

Expected as usual &#55357;&#56398;

 

[90MPH]

No punishment whatsoever ?

That is ridiculous. I don’t mind passion and sledging but they went overboard and there should be some reprimand. They were literally accusing the host broadcaster of conspiracy against them.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

All it takes is just one phone call from BCCI.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Theres nothing in the Code of Conduct for abusing technology or the broadcaster. Not sure what they should be punished for .

 

[cricketjoshila]

As someone posted an article in another thread, there is no law forbidding criticism of the broadcaster or technology.

I had said the same.

Heart break for some

 

[cricketjoshila]

No punishment whatsoever ?

That is ridiculous. I don’t mind passion and sledging but they went overboard and there should be some reprimand. They were literally accusing the host broadcaster of conspiracy against them.

Not literally. They accused SS of bias. Openly on stump mics during live telecast.

 

[HitWicket]

As someone posted an article in another thread, there is no law forbidding criticism of the broadcaster or technology.

I had said the same.

Heart break for some

There is absolutely no way you can twist a player accusing the broadcaster of manipulating the technology to change a decision as not bringing the game into disrepute. Some players also showed some pretty blatant excessive disappointment at the new decision.

 

[MenInG]

As someone posted an article in another thread, there is no law forbidding criticism of the broadcaster or technology.

I had said the same.

Heart break for some

To be honest some should hang their heads in shame.

If my team did this I would, but then that's me.

 

[IMMY69]

Expected this.

Laws were broken and the game was bought into disrepute.
Calling the broadcasters cheats on the field of play is unacceptable behaviour.

But in a way this just further exposes the ICC / BCCI and eventually there will be one of two outcomes.
Either the ICC will have to change or cricket as we know it will be dead.

Only Buffoon will defend the action of the Indian players.

 

[cricketjoshila]

To be honest some should hang their heads in shame.

If my team did this I would, but then that's me.

If pakistan calls out SS for biased broadcasting, well kudos to them. Other teams have done it in the past. Kohli just did it openly.

Are you sure bro that all those who have said in the past that SS does biased broadcasting are wrong?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Expected this.

Laws were broken and the game was bought into disrepute.
Calling the broadcasters cheats on the field of play is unacceptable behaviour.

But in a way this just further exposes the ICC / BCCI and eventually there will be one of two outcomes.
Either the ICC will have to change or cricket as we know it will be dead.

Only Buffoon will defend the action of the Indian players.

Which law forbids criticism of the broadcaster?

If SS believes they were called cheaters why not sue BCCI?

 

[MenInG]

If pakistan calls out SS for biased broadcasting, well kudos to them. Other teams have done it in the past. Kohli just did it openly.

Are you sure bro that all those who have said in the past that SS does biased broadcasting are wrong?

Read the thread about being aggressive and being badtameez - you will see what I mean.

 

[HitWicket]

Which law forbids criticism of the broadcaster?

If SS believes they were called cheaters why not sue BCCI?

As I've said above, accusing the broadcaster of corruptly manipulating the technology to change the game is blatantly bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[IMMY69]

Which law forbids criticism of the broadcaster?

If SS believes they were called cheaters why not sue BCCI?

Are you really that stupid?
You think it's ok for players to act the way did?
What is wrong with you man?

 

[moghul]

Hope Pakistan players won't copy that , they will definitely end up with significant ban. PCB is not BCCI.

 

[Manunited18]

To be honest if our local club team behaved this way then disciplinary action would be paramount. Cannot spit the dummy out and behave like morons when things not going your way!

 

[smkk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Once again a lack of consistency from match officials:<br><br>Kagiso Rabada - 15% fine, one demerit point leading to a one match ban<br><br>Virat Kohli - no action taken<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/uv6oyOQTnJ">pic.twitter.com/uv6oyOQTnJ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1482289534658392066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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If anyone over here, are in acquaintance with Kagiso Rabada, please contact him and tell him that he is in position to sue ICC for racism after this incident. If Kohli and entire team can go free without any charges, then why was he being fined far heavily for far lesser offense.

 

[Babeikh]

We are all biased to a certain degree at least but the Indians above saying this is the correct decision, i mean, come on LOL. Pull another one mate lol lol

 

[Rana]

I guess not getting your overs in on time is a much bigger crime for captains and their teams

 

[Rana]

Hope Pakistan players won't copy that , they will definitely end up with significant ban. PCB is not BCCI.

Pakistan probably wouldn’t lose to this SA side

 

[Rajdeep]

We are all biased to a certain degree at least but the Indians above saying this is the correct decision, i mean, come on LOL. Pull another one mate lol lol

All we (Indians) are saying is the decision by DRS to overturn that decision was incorrect. However, ICC has made the correct decision here as players have not broken any rules. Unless you are saying you know more than the authorities (i.e ICC)

Its funny how my fellow Pak posters find no conspiracy on that howler DRS call and asking us to accept it on face value. But finding conspiracy theory in ICCs judgement and not willing to accept it on face value themselves

 

[YousafTheBeast]

All we (Indians) are saying is the decision by DRS to overturn that decision was incorrect. However, ICC has made the correct decision here as players have not broken any rules. Unless you are saying you know more than the authorities (i.e ICC)

Its funny how my fellow Pak posters find no conspiracy on that howler DRS call and asking us to accept it on face value. But finding conspiracy theory in ICCs judgement and not willing to accept it on face value themselves

What rule did Rabada break when screaming at the crease?

It’s amazing how Indian cricketers keep getting away with things that players from other countries get penalised for.

We’re not asking you to take that howler at face value, we’re just giving it back to the Indians who said the same thing in 2011.

 

[Babeikh]

All we (Indians) are saying is the decision by DRS to overturn that decision was incorrect. However, ICC has made the correct decision here as players have not broken any rules. Unless you are saying you know more than the authorities (i.e ICC)

Its funny how my fellow Pak posters find no conspiracy on that howler DRS call and asking us to accept it on face value. But finding conspiracy theory in ICCs judgement and not willing to accept it on face value themselves

Still trying to pretend it was the correct decision


Good one mate lol

 

[sweep_shot]

Poor from ICC.

They should have been fined.

 

[IMMY69]

All we (Indians) are saying is the decision by DRS to overturn that decision was incorrect. However, ICC has made the correct decision here as players have not broken any rules. Unless you are saying you know more than the authorities (i.e ICC)

Its funny how my fellow Pak posters find no conspiracy on that howler DRS call and asking us to accept it on face value. But finding conspiracy theory in ICCs judgement and not willing to accept it on face value themselves

No rules broken?
Why the caution then?

Of course rules were broken.
Of course the game was bought into disrepute

 

[Cricfan4eva]

This is disappointing, even as an Indian fan. I am a big Kohli fan, but he and few others crossed the line and yes BCCI is powerful but there is no BCCI without cricket and this incident just showed few players think they're bigger than the game.

This attitude took down Australian cricket and they're still dealing from the fallout. Indian cricket is just heading in the same direction if they don't course correct.

At least an acknowledgement of 'we lost our cool, we apologize' would do so much good. SA have been exceptional host to us always and not one word of apology for the idiotic remark about nation vs 11.

 

[Rajdeep]

What rule did Rabada break when screaming at the crease?

It’s amazing how Indian cricketers keep getting away with things that players from other countries get penalised for.

We’re not asking you to take that howler at face value, we’re just giving it back to the Indians who said the same thing in 2011.

For Rabada, the charge was levelled by on-field umpires Rod Tucker and Bruce Oxenford and third umpire Joel Wilson as well as fourth umpire Allahudien Paleker.

Also he got ban for 1 match bcoz he accumulated 4 demerit points in the last 24 months. He did not get banned specifically for that incident only.

Did any onfield umpire complained against Kohli for ICC to ban them? How many demirit points are there against Rahul, Kohli or Ashwin in past 24 months?

Its easy to cry conspiracy and say ICC is biased. But they know it better than most posters here and have taken the right call keeping everything in mind. It has broken few hearts here but that is a different story.

 

[HitWicket]

For Rabada, the charge was levelled by on-field umpires Rod Tucker and Bruce Oxenford and third umpire Joel Wilson as well as fourth umpire Allahudien Paleker.

Also he got ban for 1 match bcoz he accumulated 4 demerit points in the last 24 months. He did not get banned specifically for that incident only.

Did any onfield umpire complained against Kohli for ICC to ban them? How many demirit points are there against Rahul, Kohli or Ashwin in past 24 months?

Its easy to cry conspiracy and say ICC is biased. But they know it better than most posters here and have taken the right call keeping everything in mind. It has broken few hearts here but that is a different story.

Again, are you really trying to suggest that a player accusing the broadcaster of manipulating the technology to change a decision is not bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Not surprised at all!

It was expected. ICC is corrupt and lacks credibility. What a joke.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

For Rabada, the charge was levelled by on-field umpires Rod Tucker and Bruce Oxenford and third umpire Joel Wilson as well as fourth umpire Allahudien Paleker.

Also he got ban for 1 match bcoz he accumulated 4 demerit points in the last 24 months. He did not get banned specifically for that incident only.

Did any onfield umpire complained against Kohli for ICC to ban them? How many demirit points are there against Rahul, Kohli or Ashwin in past 24 months?

Its easy to cry conspiracy and say ICC is biased. But they know it better than most posters here and have taken the right call keeping everything in mind. It has broken few hearts here but that is a different story.

Rabada had 3 demerit points prior to that incident, do you think it was right to give him another point for screaming at the crease?

Shouldn’t Kohli have 1 demerit point and fined 15% of his match fees for doing something probably worse than what Rabada did?

Why was Kohli warned by the officials if he did nothing wrong?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

If anyone over here, are in acquaintance with Kagiso Rabada, please contact him and tell him that he is in position to sue ICC for racism after this incident. If Kohli and entire team can go free without any charges, then why was he being fined far heavily for far lesser offense.

Money trumps racism or basic human decency.

ICC is a puppet show for corrupt BCCI's criminal ring.

 

[U$ofA]

Money trumps racism or basic human decency.

ICC is a puppet show for corrupt BCCI's criminal ring.

If this and the inaction at the SA-Ind test does not scream for a total change at the ICC, then not sure what does.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

BCCI should be investigated by foreign law enforcement agencies for corruption.

This is bigger than fixing... ICC officials' bank accounts should also be under surveillance.

In India, they did try to investigate BCCI for money laundering via IPL but BCCI bought everyone and investigation died...

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcric...ate-in-ipl-money-laundering-case-4388841.html

Lol, a bunch of bookies is running cricket. Tough pill to swallow...

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

BCCI was looking for an excuse to remove him from test captaincy.

May be after what Kohli did at the last match, they asked him to step down from the test captaincy.

Tbh what he did that day was really embarrassing to India as a cricketing nation

 

[Rajdeep]

Rabada had 3 demerit points prior to that incident, do you think it was right to give him another point for screaming at the crease?

Shouldn’t Kohli have 1 demerit point and fined 15% of his match fees for doing something probably worse than what Rabada did?

Why was Kohli warned by the officials if he did nothing wrong?

Rabada was given another demerit point bcoz onfield umpires reported against him to the match refree.

Why should ICC give fine/demerit point to Kohli even though no onfield officials/3rd umpire reported against him? Just bcoz you want it, is it?

Unless you are saying umpire themselves were scared to report against Kohli. That would take whinging to another new level.

As I said, there is no end of discussing conspiracy theory but officials/umpires/match referees knows the situation better than arm chair experts here.

 

[Local.Dada]

To be honest some should hang their heads in shame.

If my team did this I would, but then that's me.

So this is worse than Sarfaraz passing a somewhat racist comment in South Africa of all places.

You should have been more outraged on that no? Were you ?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So this is worse than Sarfaraz passing a somewhat racist comment in South Africa of all places.

You should have been more outraged on that no? Were you ?

I saw many Pakistani fans here criticising Sarfaraz Ahmed after that comment. You don't see such things from Indian fans though. They blindly defend every wrong thing which Indian players does and try to bring other stuff into threads which you are doing too here to justify it. Sarfaraz apologised for his comment. There is no apology from Kohli yet. ICC also started a probe in that incident which was caught on stump mic but here we can see indian players deliberately making statements on a stump mic. I feel bad for those who are defending such act shamelessly here.

 

[Ahmed216]

They didnt do any banworthy offence for ICC to punish. Playes didnt complain against the on-field umpires, broken any rules or argued with any ICC authorities. We regularly pick up so many cheesy statements on stump mic and classify them as sledgings. How many gets punished for those? Fox Sports even mute commentary sometimes and put the volumes up of stump mic for viewers to listen and enjoy.

What Kohli, Ash and Rahul did would go down as stump mic sledging. There is no difference when Tim Paine says 'You seriously cant like him as a bloke' or ' Do you babysit' or 'Come to Gabba Ash' to what Indian players said here like 'Its entire country against XI boys' or 'there are better way of winning supersports'. The only difference being instead of sleding the fellow players, they sledge the broadcasters.

So not banworthy offence and ICC did the right thing.

Do you understand the difference between sleding and accusing people from other country of cheating? Without any proof or enquiry into the matter?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Rabada was given another demerit point bcoz onfield umpires reported against him to the match refree.

Why should ICC give fine/demerit point to Kohli even though no onfield officials/3rd umpire reported against him? Just bcoz you want it, is it?

Unless you are saying umpire themselves were scared to report against Kohli. That would take whinging to another new level.

As I said, there is no end of discussing conspiracy theory but officials/umpires/match referees knows the situation better than arm chair experts here.

Of course, I want Kohli to get a demerit point and a fine if other players are getting it for doing similar things.

If Kohli was to get a 1 match ban for swearing and Stokes also swore but didn’t get penalised then you’d be pretty p’d off I’d imagine? Or, would you say, ‘Umpires reported Kohli but not Stokes, so it’s all good’.


What was the difference between Rabada’s actions and Kohli’s?

 

[Nfc120]

Whether anybody got banned or not is besides the point (should have been a few demerit points thrown around). Point is that the ICT has really tarnished its image this last year. first they had to go to a begging bowl trying to get some IPL profits in corona times, so sad. Then they bailed on England because they were up 1 match, and mentally weak. Then they got WRECKED by pakistan in t20 World Cup and tried to cop it to luck. Now, you can see grown men yelling at stumps LOLOL. Extremely poor to see as a neutral, hoping they get some class this year.

Facts are facts, the team just does not have any courage when the chips are down.

Maybe they’ll go back and when a game or two at home with their cheating broadcasting team and criminal cricket board.

 

[Stewie]

2.8 Showing dissent at an Umpire’s decision during an International Match

Dissent is anything as long as it is in reaction to the given decision. You can bring a gun and shoot a bird on the field in reaction to the decision, and it is showing dissent. Just because it is not described anywhere, does not mean its not dissent, as long as there is evidence is presented it is in reaction to the decision.


Those defending the Indian team here are wrong. There is a clear violation of ICC Code of Conduct here.

 

[Buffet]

Joke decision by ICC here. There should have been some action here.

 

[Technics 1210]

For all the right-wing Indian fans who claim India did nothing wrong, they did, the captain and his team accused the broadcaster of cheating.

Recall when Tendulkar was accused of ball tampering (found guilty) and how BCCI and a billion threw their toys out of a pram. What a reaction that was, and a laughable one.

Accusing someone of cheating without evidence is a serious allegation within itself.

 

[Ashmal]

I saw many Pakistani fans here criticising Sarfaraz Ahmed after that comment. You don't see such things from Indian fans though. They blindly defend every wrong thing which Indian players does and try to bring other stuff into threads which you are doing too here to justify it. Sarfaraz apologised for his comment. There is no apology from Kohli yet. ICC also started a probe in that incident which was caught on stump mic but here we can see indian players deliberately making statements on a stump mic. I feel bad for those who are defending such act shamelessly here.

Sarfaraz was also rightfully banned for 4 games.

 

[cricketjoshila]

2.8 Showing dissent at an Umpire’s decision during an International Match

Dissent is anything as long as it is in reaction to the given decision. You can bring a gun and shoot a bird on the field in reaction to the decision, and it is showing dissent. Just because it is not described anywhere, does not mean its not dissent, as long as there is evidence is presented it is in reaction to the decision.


Those defending the Indian team here are wrong. There is a clear violation of ICC Code of Conduct here.

Where did they question the umpire? They questioned the broadcaster. Supersports is the umpire?

 

[Lego20]

To be honest some should hang their heads in shame.

If my team did this I would, but then that's me.

Same if SS was indeed being bias? Takes courage to call them out openly and not tolerate the unfairness. Not ashamed one bit, if the Indian team concluded of bias based on their assessment. Indian support staff has a lot of technology and tools available to make that assessment. You could see the Indian team voiced their displeasure deliberately and not instinctually.

No one in the world could say that was not out. Not an iota of doubt in that appeal.

 

[Saj]

There was nothing courageous about the Indian players behaviour in that 3rd Test. In fact looking back they should be embarrassed about what they said/did.

Kids watching that will be thinking if they can do it, so can I.

Terrible day for cricket.

 

[IMMY69]

There was nothing courageous about the Indian players behaviour in that 3rd Test. In fact looking back they should be embarrassed about what they said/did.

Kids watching that will be thinking if they can do it, so can I.

Terrible day for cricket.

It was the complete opposite to courageous.
They showed their weakness and frustration.
It was also thoroughly unprofessional and unsporting to call then out as cheaters.

 

[Lego20]

There was nothing courageous about the Indian players behaviour in that 3rd Test. In fact looking back they should be embarrassed about what they said/did.

Kids watching that will be thinking if they can do it, so can I.

Terrible day for cricket.

The question is - "what if supersports was indeed being bias"? Who will take up that battle? Just taking it silently and let then continue?

Our guys are leading from the front and inspiring others to speak up against blatant injustice and unfairness. This is the new bold world.

 

[Saj]

The question is - "what if supersports was indeed being bias"? Who will take up that battle? Just taking it silently and let then continue?

Our guys are leading from the front and inspiring others to speak up against blatant injustice and unfairness. This is the new bold world.

Nothing vindicates such behaviour from professional sportsmen. In fact if you saw such behaviour at any level of cricket, it should be called out and condemned.

Some may think it was bravado, some may think it was being patriotic, some may think it was standing up for themselves.

Most will think it was childish and stupid behaviour.

 

[IMMY69]

The question is - "what if supersports was indeed being bias"? Who will take up that battle? Just taking it silently and let then continue?

Our guys are leading from the front and inspiring others to speak up against blatant injustice and unfairness. This is the new bold world.

So you think behaving like crude bullies in a playground is the way to highlight this?
Forget that people will be watching it on tv or that the BCCI has so much power that they can initiate an investigation???

 

[Artaxerxes]

ICC is a joke.People have no respect for the bunch of cowards running ICC.

 

[wrongun]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Once again a lack of consistency from match officials:<br><br>Kagiso Rabada - 15% fine, one demerit point leading to a one match ban<br><br>Virat Kohli - no action taken<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/uv6oyOQTnJ">pic.twitter.com/uv6oyOQTnJ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1482289534658392066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Pretty telling of the double standard.

Rabada celebrates a wicket, gets punished.

Indian team whines about a decision yelling stupid conspiracy theories against the broadcaster (who do NOT run the hawkeye) and accuse the ICC (who DO) of outright cheating but don't get punished...

Clearly that set of priorities is off.

Celebrating a wicket is worse than refusal to accept a decision & mouthing off about it repeatedly, over a prolonged period?

 

[wrongun]

The question is - "what if supersports was indeed being bias"? Who will take up that battle? Just taking it silently and let then continue?

Our guys are leading from the front and inspiring others to speak up against blatant injustice and unfairness. This is the new bold world.

Supersports don't even run the hawkeye, it's the same 3rd party provider hired by the ICC.

If you think the ICC is biased and cheating against India then please explain why? Do the ICC hate their largest market & revenue maker? How does this conspiracy tie in with allowing India to host every ICC tournament and allowed to refuse to abide by the FTP re Pakistan matches?

 

[Lego20]

Nothing vindicates such behaviour from professional sportsmen. In fact if you saw such behaviour at any level of cricket, it should be called out and condemned.

Some may think it was bravado, some may think it was being patriotic, some may think it was standing up for themselves.

Most will think it was childish and stupid behaviour.

Again the question: what if (and there ia strong reason and precedence to believe that) SS was doing it deliberately? Who fill fight against that? How?

This was the same story with India and Steve Bucknor. Wish we had someone like Kohli then.

All the cute gentleman fairy tales are out of the window in todays world. Be bold and have courage to call out ** on the face if you want to achieve something and taken seriously.

Just fyi, offtopic remember when Pakistan walked out for ball tampering? Sri Lanka for chucking? Its the same thing. Standing up for yourself.

 

[Lego20]

Supersports don't even run the hawkeye, it's the same 3rd party provider hired by the ICC.

If you think the ICC is biased and cheating against India then please explain why? Do the ICC hate their largest market & revenue maker? How does this conspiracy tie in with allowing India to host every ICC tournament and allowed to refuse to abide by the FTP re Pakistan matches?

Like [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] pointed out, there are elements (camera etc) of hawkeye controlled and managed by the broadcaster.

Re:FTP
Has been discussed. India absolved of any wrong doing. PCB penalized for wasting everyones time. India gets to chose if it does not want bilateral relations with a country. Make peace with that and find other ways to thrive cricket in Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Supersports don't even run the hawkeye, it's the same 3rd party provider hired by the ICC.

If you think the ICC is biased and cheating against India then please explain why? Do the ICC hate their largest market & revenue maker? How does this conspiracy tie in with allowing India to host every ICC tournament and allowed to refuse to abide by the FTP re Pakistan matches?

ICC has approved two different providers. Hawkeye and Virtual eye. A broadcaster is free to hire either and ICC doesn't interfere.

As told by virtual eye creator, camera placement affects the accuracy and placing of camera isn't in their hands.

On a number of grounds... this isn’t complaining but to put in context... if you want 100% accuracy, then ICC would say 'the cameras go where the Hawk-Eye and Virtual Eye tell you they must go'. A lot of times you can’t put them there. They won’t let you put them there, they lock someone’s view out there or there's a corporate box or there's a sponsor's box. We had a problem I think in 2019. In one of the grounds, the camera position was in the wrong place, we asked to move it and couldn’t move. That’s one of the first instances we had where we lost the tracking right at the start. We met with everybody and talked about it and the camera was moved to the correct place and it’s been fine ever since. It’s really important that cameras are in the right place.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Supersports don't even run the hawkeye, it's the same 3rd party provider hired by the ICC.

If you think the ICC is biased and cheating against India then please explain why? Do the ICC hate their largest market & revenue maker? How does this conspiracy tie in with allowing India to host every ICC tournament and allowed to refuse to abide by the FTP re Pakistan matches?

Why should India not host ICC tournaments? On what grounds?

Did ICC interfere when England and Australia refused to visit Zimbabwe under the Mugabe regime?

India has no obligation to tour pakistan and this was proven in the court.

 

[Saj]

Again the question: what if (and there ia strong reason and precedence to believe that) SS was doing it deliberately? Who fill fight against that? How?

This was the same story with India and Steve Bucknor. Wish we had someone like Kohli then.

All the cute gentleman fairy tales are out of the window in todays world. Be bold and have courage to call out ** on the face if you want to achieve something and taken seriously.

Just fyi, offtopic remember when Pakistan walked out for ball tampering? Sri Lanka for chucking? Its the same thing. Standing up for yourself.

If clowning around like that is 'standing up for yourself', then God help us regarding the future of cricket.

That type of behaviour belongs in a zoo not on a cricket field.

 

[Technics 1210]

Hahahaha. So if Pakistan walked off, Sri Lanka walked off, then why didn’t India walk off in protest?

Cry babies to the max. Deserved to lose the series, deserved to lose their captain.

 

[wrongun]

ICC has approved two different providers. Hawkeye and Virtual eye. A broadcaster is free to hire either and ICC doesn't interfere.

As told by virtual eye creator, camera placement affects the accuracy and placing of camera isn't in their hands.

On a number of grounds... this isn’t complaining but to put in context... if you want 100% accuracy, then ICC would say 'the cameras go where the Hawk-Eye and Virtual Eye tell you they must go'. A lot of times you can’t put them there. They won’t let you put them there, they lock someone’s view out there or there's a corporate box or there's a sponsor's box. We had a problem I think in 2019. In one of the grounds, the camera position was in the wrong place, we asked to move it and couldn’t move. That’s one of the first instances we had where we lost the tracking right at the start. We met with everybody and talked about it and the camera was moved to the correct place and it’s been fine ever since. It’s really important that cameras are in the right place.

Which is why we have umpires call margin. Still doesn't explain why Kohli thinks he can accuse the broadcaster of cheating. Is it only misplaced for India deliveries?

 

[Buffet]

Which is why we have umpires call margin. Still doesn't explain why Kohli thinks he can accuse the broadcaster of cheating. Is it only misplaced for India deliveries?

I don't think the placement of the camera is good logic. It will work the same for both teams.

If anything Indians can complain about broadcasters not showing zoom replays despite the umpire asking for it 4-5 times during DRS. The result went in favor of SA. That could be argued as deliberately impacting DRS.

Anyway, accusing broadcasters like that is extremely poor behavior. If there was an issue, raise it officially.

 

[U$ofA]

If clowning around like that is 'standing up for yourself', then God help us regarding the future of cricket.

That type of behaviour belongs in a zoo not on a cricket field.

But this type of behavior seems acceptable to the ICC. The authority running the game deems this not worthy of any punishment.

If there is no action taken now, how is it going to deter any similar behavior in the future? Players will think this is ok. If/when such behavior happens again and continues to happen who do we blame?

 

[Ashmal]

ICC has approved two different providers. Hawkeye and Virtual eye. A broadcaster is free to hire either and ICC doesn't interfere.

As told by virtual eye creator, camera placement affects the accuracy and placing of camera isn't in their hands.

On a number of grounds... this isn’t complaining but to put in context... if you want 100% accuracy, then ICC would say 'the cameras go where the Hawk-Eye and Virtual Eye tell you they must go'. A lot of times you can’t put them there. They won’t let you put them there, they lock someone’s view out there or there's a corporate box or there's a sponsor's box. We had a problem I think in 2019. In one of the grounds, the camera position was in the wrong place, we asked to move it and couldn’t move. That’s one of the first instances we had where we lost the tracking right at the start. We met with everybody and talked about it and the camera was moved to the correct place and it’s been fine ever since. It’s really important that cameras are in the right place.

So you are saying SuperSports magically shifted the cameras just before that review...lol

 

[Firebat]

This isn't sledging. Sledging is trash talking participants in the match in order to get into their head and make them lose concentration. It's been part of the sport for decades.

This is half a Test team having a tantrum and openly accusing the host broadcaster and nation of cheating because a decision didn't go their way, led by the most famous cricketer on the planet, and with this joke of a decision the ICC has clearly showed they think such behaviour is acceptable. What an advert for the game.

 

[Buffet]

This isn't sledging. Sledging is trash talking participants in the match in order to get into their head and make them lose concentration. It's been part of the sport for decades.

This is half a Test team having a tantrum and openly accusing the host broadcaster and nation of cheating because a decision didn't go their way, led by the most famous cricketer on the planet, and with this joke of a decision the ICC has clearly showed they think such behaviour is acceptable. What an advert for the game.

+1

It is not the same as sledging.

 

[Lego20]

This isn't sledging. Sledging is trash talking participants in the match in order to get into their head and make them lose concentration. It's been part of the sport for decades.

This is half a Test team having a tantrum and openly accusing the host broadcaster and nation of cheating because a decision didn't go their way, led by the most famous cricketer on the planet, and with this joke of a decision the ICC has clearly showed they think such behaviour is acceptable. What an advert for the game.

There has been a pattern through the series (and even before that with other teams). The decision in question was black and white without an iota of doubt. No living person can deny that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So you are saying SuperSports magically shifted the cameras just before that review...lol

It may have been wrongly placed throughout and affected the DRS.

 

[ARK Rafay]

We know ICC is a joke