"Not Our Kerala Story": Congress Leader Shashi Tharoor Slams Film

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It may be *your* Kerala story. It is not *our* Kerala story. <a href="https://t.co/Y9PTWrNZuL">pic.twitter.com/Y9PTWrNZuL</a></p>— Shashi Tharoor (@ShashiTharoor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShashiTharoor/status/1652675921717997569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Congress MP Shashi Tharoor on Sunday reacted to the ongoing 'The Kerala Story' controversy on Twitter.
Taking to the microblogging site he shared the poster of the film and wrote, "It may be *your* Kerala story. It is not *our* Kerala story."

'The Kerala Story' has become a topic for discussion around the numbers being exaggerated in the trailer of the film.

Helmed by Sudipto Sen and produced by Vipul Amrutlal Shah, the film is all set to hit the theatres on May 5, 2023.

'The Kerala Story' stars Adah Sharma, Yogita Bihani, Siddhi Idnani and Sonia Balani in the lead roles.

The trailer of Sen's film 'The Kerala Story' came under fire as it claimed that 32,000 girls from the state went missing and later joined the terrorist group, ISIS.

Leader of Opposition in Kerala Legislative Assembly VD Satheesan recently said that the film 'The Kerala Story' should not be granted permission for screening.

"The film 'The Kerala Story' which falsely claims that 32,000 women in Kerala converted and became members of the Islamic State, should not be granted permission for screening. The trailer clearly shows what the film intends to say", Satheesan said in a Facebook post.

He also alleged that the film is part of an attempt to implement Sangh Parivar's agenda and create a social divide by casting a shadow of doubt over the minority groups.

"This is not an issue of freedom of expression but part of an attempt to implement the Sangh Parivar agenda to create a divide in the society by casting a shadow of doubt over the minority groups", he said.

 

[MenInG]

Kerala Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan on Sunday slammed the makers of 'The Kerala Story' film, saying they were taking up the Sangh Parivar propaganda of projecting the state as a centre of religious extremism by raising the issue of 'love jihad' -- a concept rejected by the courts, probe agencies, and even the Union Home Ministry.

Mr Vijayan said that the trailer of the Hindi film, at first glance, appears to be "deliberately produced" with the alleged aim of creating communal polarisation and spreading hate propaganda against the state. He said that despite the issue of 'love jihad' being rejected by probe agencies, courts, and the MHA, it was being raised in connection with Kerala as the main premise of the film only to humiliate the state in front of the world.

The Chief Minister, in a statement, said that such "propaganda films" and the alienation of Muslims depicted in them should be viewed in the context of Sangh Parivar's efforts to gain political advantage in Kerala. He also accused the Sangh Parivar of trying to destroy the religious harmony in the state by "sowing the poisonous seeds of communalism".

A couple of days ago, both the ruling CPI(M) in Kerala and the opposition Congress hit out at the controversial upcoming movie 'The Kerala Story', saying freedom of expression was not a licence to spew venom in society, and the film was an attempt to destroy the communal harmony of the state.

'The Kerala Story', written and directed by Sudipto Sen, is portrayed as "unearthing" the events behind "approximately 32,000 women" allegedly going missing in the southern state. The film falsely claims they converted, got radicalised, and were deployed in terror missions in India and the world.

NDTV

 

[the Great Khan]

32000 terrorists exported by hindustan? If this is true why has the west not sanctioned this fascist state? India needs to do more against home grown fascism and terror.

 

[MenInG]

32000 terrorists exported by hindustan? If this is true why has the west not sanctioned this fascist state? India needs to do more against home grown fascism and terror.

Think the emphasis on word Muslim in this story.

 

[Romali_rotti]

32000 terrorists exported by hindustan? If this is true why has the west not sanctioned this fascist state? India needs to do more against home grown fascism and terror.

I would say we most likely could be in the top 5 recruiting programs for ISIS in India. But 32,000 that's a bit too steep..

Sad thing is I heard (not sure how true it is) some of our darker skinned kerala recruits once they reached ISIS base were told they would not be participating in any military missions but instead on cleaning missions like toilets, accomodations other such duties because of the color of their skin ...

 

[Rajdeep]

People like Shashi Tharoor and Pinnayari Vijayan gets upset when reality is being potrayed via cinema.

 

[Smbhayi]

I would say we most likely could be in the top 5 recruiting programs for ISIS in India. But 32,000 that's a bit too steep..

Sad thing is I heard (not sure how true it is) some of our darker skinned kerala recruits once they reached ISIS base were told they would not be participating in any military missions but instead on cleaning missions like toilets, accomodations other such duties because of the color of their skin ...

People like Shashi Tharoor and Pinnayari Vijayan gets upset when reality is being potrayed via cinema.

Muslim Youth League will give you 1 crore inam if you provide the proof.. it's easy money since it's true, nah..
The actual problem bjp don't have any hold in Kerala so they defame the kerala (heard the propaganda of BJP in North India is that vote for us so these states don't become like Kerala).. remember how elephant death portrayed in North Indian media's..

 

[Romali_rotti]

Muslim Youth League will give you 1 crore inam if you provide the proof.. it's easy money since it's true, nah..
The actual problem bjp don't have any hold in Kerala so they defame the kerala (heard the propaganda of BJP in North India is that vote for us so these states don't become like Kerala).. remember how elephant death portrayed in North Indian media's..

Whilst I agree 32000 ISIS recruits from Kerala looks false are you saying Kerala doesn't have an ISIS recruitment issue and it is all BJP propaganda ?

 

[Stewie]

if 32000 women converted in just Kerala alone, there is a serious problem with non Muslim females in that state. Maybe they are jaded by their current living conditions and felt even a life of spreading terror was better than their crappy current conditions?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Stinky sanghies now trying hard to push their hate agenda in Kerala where religious groups live in peace and harmony. I hope the wise and literate population of the state does not take the bait with these low life junky movies.


Saw this last night and not surprised.

 

[Smbhayi]

Whilst I agree 32000 ISIS recruits from Kerala looks false are you saying Kerala doesn't have an ISIS recruitment issue and it is all BJP propaganda ?

I'd be surprised even 100 women converted and goes to isis.. there'll be few but the film states 32000 are converted and recruited to isis, clearly you can see what are they trying to do here..

 

[Stewie]

I'd be surprised even 100 women converted and goes to isis.. there'll be few but the film states 32000 are converted and recruited to isis, clearly you can see what are they trying to do here..

being a Pakistani, I still dont. Are they trying to prove that all Muslim men are evil and are scamming on all the hindu or non muslim females in the state? do they really have this much game?

playa playa!!!

once again, thats what i am thinking but not sure so wanted the indians here to confirm exactly whas going on. This is, at the end of the day, another attempt top divide and spread hate against a subsection of your population.

 

[Champ_Pal]

32000 terrorists exported by hindustan? If this is true why has the west not sanctioned this fascist state? India needs to do more against home grown fascism and terror.

Because it is not.

 

[Champ_Pal]

if 32000 women converted in just Kerala alone, there is a serious problem with non Muslim females in that state. Maybe they are jaded by their current living conditions and felt even a life of spreading terror was better than their crappy current conditions?

The liberal ones from Hindu and Christian communities in Kerala are the ones that fall pray to the ISIS Jihadis.

 

[Stewie]

The liberal ones from Hindu and Christian communities in Kerala are the ones that fall pray to the ISIS Jihadis.

Just putting the word "liberal" on the label doesnt make the issue go away or make it ok somehow. At the end of the day, indian women are falling for these as**** hook line and sinker. its like bajamaat mashooqas with burqas. (BMWB)

going for one guy 4 women at a time, sounds like. Crap like that does not even happen in Pakistan. UK, maybe, because they are truly worse than Pakistan there. lol

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Kerala was a bit of a hot bed for Isis recruitment.

However 32,000 convert women is a massive exaggeration.

Where are they now? Did they all die in Iraq/Syria?

This should be easy enough to substantiate.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I'd be surprised even 100 women converted and goes to isis.. there'll be few but the film states 32000 are converted and recruited to isis, clearly you can see what are they trying to do here..

Lets not get into the numbers because both of us do not know what the actual figure is. However you do admit Kerala does have an ISIS problem.

 

[Hitman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An ISIS widow Ayisha (Converted) got married to Abdul Rashid, joined ISIS in Afghanistan & later he got killed there. She wanted to return back to India.<br><br>‘The Kerala Story’ movie is coming upfront. I'm glad such issues are getting known for common Indians. <a href="https://t.co/7vUbv1YPL8">pic.twitter.com/7vUbv1YPL8</a></p>— BALA (@erbmjha) <a href="https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1653031164674969600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[cricketjoshila]

Muslim Youth League will give you 1 crore inam if you provide the proof.. it's easy money since it's true, nah..
The actual problem bjp don't have any hold in Kerala so they defame the kerala (heard the propaganda of BJP in North India is that vote for us so these states don't become like Kerala).. remember how elephant death portrayed in North Indian media's..

The Highest number of Isis recruits from India were from Kerala. That's the truth.

BJP or no BJP, there is a extremists problem in Kerala, the church is talking about it too these days.

 

[cricketjoshila]

32000 is the figure for converted woman. Not Isis recruits.

The number that joined isis was between 100 to 200 in 2019.

 

[Smbhayi]

32000 is the figure for converted woman. Not Isis recruits.

The number that joined isis was between 100 to 200 in 2019.

The converted or love jihad happens both ways.. there's a rumour there's sanghis whatsapp group to teach how to marry & convert Muslim girl to Hindu..

 

[Smbhayi]

The Highest number of Isis recruits from India were from Kerala. That's the truth.

BJP or no BJP, there is a extremists problem in Kerala, the church is talking about it too these days.

It's SDPI.. it's born bcz of RSS (& CPM less extend) killings.. so if SDPI are terrorist group then rss, vhp, Sangh Parivar too.. personally I'd like see ban them all..

 

[gani999]

Muslim Youth League will give you 1 crore inam if you provide the proof.. it's easy money since it's true, nah..
The actual problem bjp don't have any hold in Kerala so they defame the kerala (heard the propaganda of BJP in North India is that vote for us so these states don't become like Kerala).. remember how elephant death portrayed in North Indian media's..

A former CM of Kerala himself admitted that there was a problem. Are you saying he is wrong?

https://indianexpress.com/article/n...ying-to-make-kerala-a-muslim-country-says-vs/

And the entire love jihad issue was brought to the fore by the Christian community in Kerala, and not the Hindus.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Why are Hindu women always converting to Islam in india whether Kerala or UP. Surely not all are tricked or dumb

 

[cricketjoshila]

The converted or love jihad happens both ways.. there's a rumour there's sanghis whatsapp group to teach how to marry & convert Muslim girl to Hindu..

Whatsapp group rumours

And actual leaders like Catholic bishops warning about love jihad are two different things.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It's SDPI.. it's born bcz of RSS (& CPM less extend) killings.. so if SDPI are terrorist group then rss, vhp, Sangh Parivar too.. personally I'd like see ban them all..

RSS hardly has anything in Kerala. Infact RSS workers regularly get killed in Kerala.

CPM or LDF and Congress led UDF of which SDPI is part have been in government alternately for decades.

 

[the Great Khan]

I'm glad India is finally admitting to its homegrown terror problem. Wonder how many of these terrorists were sent over the border to kill Pakistanis via Afghanistan. I think more scrutiny needs to be put on homegrown terror in India. Both extremist Hindu terror and Muslim.

 

[gani999]

I'm glad India is finally admitting to its homegrown terror problem. Wonder how many of these terrorists were sent over the border to kill Pakistanis via Afghanistan. I think more scrutiny needs to be put on homegrown terror in India. Both extremist Hindu terror and Muslim.

There was no muslim terror in India before the ISI started meddling with India's muslim groups.

So if Indian muslim terrorists are entering Pakistan via Afghanistan and killing Pakistani muslims, then it is clearly a case of the snake biting the breeder.

 

[MenInG]

The Supreme Court today refused to entertain a plea seeking a stay on release of the movie "The Kerala Story" on grounds that its a "worst kind of hate speech" and an "audio-visual propaganda".

A bench of Justices KM Joseph and BV Nagarathna was told by senior advocate Kapil Sibal and advocate Nizam Pasha that the trailer of the movie, which is scheduled to be released on Friday, has garnered 16 million views.

Mr Pasha claimed, "This movie is the worst kind of hate speech. It is a completely audio-visual propaganda".

The bench said, "There are varieties of hate speeches. This film has got certification and has been cleared by the board. It's not like a person getting on the podium and starts giving uncontrolled speech. If you want to challenge the release of the movie, you should challenge the certification and through appropriate forum".

Mr Sibal then said that he will do "whatever necessary".

Justice Nagarathna said the petitioner should first approach the high court. Mr Pasha said there was no time left as the movie is scheduled to release on Friday.

"This is not a ground. Otherwise everyone will start coming to the Supreme Court", the bench said.

Mr Pasha said that is why he has filed an intervention application in the hate speech matter. Justice Joseph said though he may not be advising the petition but for seeking appropriate remedy a substantial writ petition needs to be filed.

NDTV

 

[the Great Khan]

There was no muslim terror in India before the ISI started meddling with India's muslim groups.

So if Indian muslim terrorists are entering Pakistan via Afghanistan and killing Pakistani muslims, then it is clearly a case of the snake biting the breeder.

So you have finally admitted to Indian terrorists killing Pakistanis. Something we have been saying for years and you and your sanghi bros denying. Good now we can finally have a proper debate. Also can you provide the number of Indians killed by ISI sponsored terror in the last decade?

Quite clear that India is now becoming a regional terror hub for various groups. This needs to be dealt with. I wonder if the PAF can carry out limited strikes to deter these groups?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why are Hindu women always converting to Islam in india whether Kerala or UP. Surely not all are tricked or dumb

They aren't, it's probably a miniscule amount, that is the whole point the critics of this movie are trying to raise. It's sensationalist scare-mongering, and the producers are hoping this will help it sell.

The real problem is that India is largely uneducated in real terms, and still living very much in the third world. Spreading stuff like this can be very dangerous if the masses swallow the propaganda.

 

[JaDed]

The Highest number of Isis recruits from India were from Kerala. That's the truth.

BJP or no BJP, there is a extremists problem in Kerala, the church is talking about it too these days.

The biggest extremist Hindutva problem is in UP.. what should be do about them?
Babri Masjid riots are not that old too.

 

[JaDed]

Kerala should make movies too.. the UP story.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The biggest extremist Hindutva problem is in UP.. what should be do about them?
Babri Masjid riots are not that old too.

Can you name a few terror attacks in UP by Hindus?

Communal Riots and terrorism are two different things. Communal riots have been happening in India for centuries.

 

[RajBan]

Extremism in Kerala is more due to influence of ME , similar to some of our neighbouring countries. It has nothing to do with BJP as A. BJP is a non entity politically other than few urbanites and B. Kerala always has a inclusive social fabric with Hindus, Christians and Muslim living side by side . Finally Kerala have been always ruled by either Left or Congress, so it's difficult to make accusations of communal marginalization. Congress infact have been in partnership with Islamic right in Kerala.

 

[LongHorn]

I have grown up with Keralites (all 3 religions) in the Middle east; extremism seems to be the last thing on their mind, they are overly focused on making money and staying in the Gulf at any cost possible, sometimes for 20-30 years on their own. The middle classes and above also value education a lot.
My younger sibling is also close buddies with the most famous Gulf Keralite's daughter for close to 2 decades, what she saw in their circles and what we hear from them affirms my views above.

I doubt more than 32 Keralite women joined such groups abroad, definitely not 32,000

 

[the Great Khan]

Extremism in Kerala is more due to influence of ME , similar to some of our neighbouring countries. It has nothing to do with BJP as A. BJP is a non entity politically other than few urbanites and B. Kerala always has a inclusive social fabric with Hindus, Christians and Muslim living side by side . Finally Kerala have been always ruled by either Left or Congress, so it's difficult to make accusations of communal marginalization. Congress infact have been in partnership with Islamic right in Kerala.

So in essence this movie is an attempt to fan hatred of Muslims and to increase racism against them for political gain. Shouldn't you be condemning this vile act from the RSS and its supporters?

 

[RajBan]

So in essence this movie is an attempt to fan hatred of Muslims and to increase racism against them for political gain. Shouldn't you be condemning this vile act from the RSS and its supporters?

The best way to make these nonsense movies irrelevant is to give as little space as possible in any sensible discussion. From the trailer itself it is very clear that this not a genuine attempt to talk about suffering and mistakes of few individuals or specific storyline but rather make it a source of generalization and vitriol. I for one won't even view this movie even for free.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The best way to make these nonsense movies irrelevant is to give as little space as possible in any sensible discussion. From the trailer itself it is very clear that this not a genuine attempt to talk about suffering and mistakes of few individuals or specific storyline but rather make it a source of generalization and vitriol. I for one won't even view this movie even for free.

That's fine and worthy advice if you are talking about a movie running in California or Switzerland, but as I said previously, a relatively uneducated public in a third world country is a different audience. India has seen mob lynchings on the back of a facebook post in recent history. I think rather than ignore it, authorities should be ensuring this sort of fake propaganda is kept on a leash.

 

[RajBan]

That's fine and worthy advice if you are talking about a movie running in California or Switzerland, but as I said previously, a relatively uneducated public in a third world country is a different audience. India has seen mob lynchings on the back of a facebook post in recent history. I think rather than ignore it, authorities should be ensuring this sort of fake propaganda is kept on a leash.

I am not against relevant authorities verifying/challenging what has been promoted as facts.

As an individual I don't have any intention to waste my time on this junk.

 

[Smbhayi]

RSS hardly has anything in Kerala. Infact RSS workers regularly get killed in Kerala.

CPM or LDF and Congress led UDF of which SDPI is part have been in government alternately for decades.

Why are they getting killed? Bcs they kill other party members in response their members also getting killed..

I think SDPI came in to the scene mid 2000s

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why are they getting killed? Bcs they kill other party members in response their members also getting killed..

I think SDPI came in to the scene mid 2000s

They are being killed because thats what communists do to any rival rising political power in their ruling state.

The CPM ruled my state for 3 decades. First they killed Congress workers. Next they killed the workers of Trinamool Congress when they became a political threat.

They did the same in Tripura.

 

[RajBan]

They are being killed because thats what communists do to any rival rising political power in their ruling state.

The CPM ruled my state for 3 decades. First they killed Congress workers. Next they killed the workers of Trinamool Congress when they became a political threat.

They did the same in Tripura.

There has brutal infighting between CPI and CPIM in rural Bengal in 80s and 90s

 

[MenInG]

The producer of ‘The Kerala Story’ said the teaser, which claimed that over 32,000 women were recruited to ISIS, will be removed from social media.

The official poster of The Kerala Story which will be released on May 5. (PTI)

The court also refused to stay the release of the film, observing that the film only says it “inspired by true events”.

The bench stated that the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) has certified the film for public viewing.

Interestingly, the bench watched the trailer of the film before refusing to stay its screenings saying that there was nothing offensive to any particular community in it.

The bench also noted that none of the petitioners has watched the film and that the producers have added a disclaimer that the film is a fictionalised version.

"There is something called freedom of speech and expression. They have artistic freedom, we have to balance that also", Live Law quoted Justice Nagaresh as saying.

“What is there in the film that is against Islam? There is no allegation against a religion, but only against the organisation ISIS," Justice Nagaresh added.

Hindustan Times

 

[MenInG]

Ahead of the release of The Kerala Story, music composer AR Rahman has shared a tweet which highlights a case of communal harmony in Kerala.

Music maestro AR Rahman has reacted to a video on Twitter which shows a Hindu wedding ceremony being held inside a mosque. His tweet came a day before the release of The Kerala Story, a controversial film based on alleged radicalisation and conversion of young 32000 Hindu women to Islam in Kerala, before inducting them into terrorist outfit Islamic State (IS). Also read: AR Rahman breaks silence after Pune police stopped his show midway, shares clip of cop on stage. Watch

Rahman retweeted the video captioned as "Here is another #KeralaStory" and wrote, "Bravo (hands raised in air celebrating joy emoji) love for humanity has to be unconditional and healing (bandaged heart emoji)."

The almost two-minute clip shows a Hindu couple dressed as bride and groom, tying the knot as per Hindu customs in a mosque in Kerala's Alappuzha city. According to the video, the bride's mother who was struggling financially had approached the mosque's committee for help and the mosque authority not just agreed to host the wedding but also gifted bride gold and cash.

Meanwhile, The Kerala Story released in theatres on Friday. Starring Adah Sharma, the film is written and directed by Sudipto Sen, and produced by Vipul Amrutlal Shah. It claims to be inspired by true stories and that 32,000 women from Kerala were converted to Islam.

The Supreme Court on Thursday refused to entertain for a third time a petition challenging the CBFC certification granted to The Kerala Story, saying courts must be very careful while staying exhibition of films. The court observed producers have invested money in the film and actors have dedicated their labour, and it is for the market to decide if the movie is not up to the mark. The apex court refused to entertain the plea which said it is a "worst kind of hate speech” and an “audio-visual propaganda”.

As per ANI, the theatres reached an agreement with distributors to screen the film on 50 screens in Kerala, but many have backed out. Later, it was decided that the film will be screened on only 17 screens in the state with only one in Kochi. Several shows around the state were cancelled amid protests against the movie for allegedly propagating a false narrative of Islamic conversion.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/ente...-wedding-in-mosque-watch-101683267428650.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

There has brutal infighting between CPI and CPIM in rural Bengal in 80s and 90s

Nothing like how they killed any rival political organisation's workers.

NGOs or even religious organisations who said anything against the communists suffered.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The producer of ‘The Kerala Story’ said the teaser, which claimed that over 32,000 women were recruited to ISIS, will be removed from social media.

The official poster of The Kerala Story which will be released on May 5. (PTI)

The court also refused to stay the release of the film, observing that the film only says it “inspired by true events”.

The bench stated that the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) has certified the film for public viewing.

Interestingly, the bench watched the trailer of the film before refusing to stay its screenings saying that there was nothing offensive to any particular community in it.

The bench also noted that none of the petitioners has watched the film and that the producers have added a disclaimer that the film is a fictionalised version.

"There is something called freedom of speech and expression. They have artistic freedom, we have to balance that also", Live Law quoted Justice Nagaresh as saying.

“What is there in the film that is against Islam? There is no allegation against a religion, but only against the organisation ISIS," Justice Nagaresh added.

Hindustan Times

I think that says everything about the courts in India, they are clearly more interested in supporting Hindutva agendas rather than maintaining harmony in the country, even if that means allowing dangerous lies to be propagated among a febrile population.

Actually it says a lot about India itself, the population elected a leader who encapsulates such a bigoted mindset.

 

[MP2011]

The Kerala Story Review: The Writing Is Consistently Cringeworthy, The Acting Is No Better

No more than a lengthy WhatsApp forward in the guise of a movie, The Kerala Story would have been deemed a passable vehicle for a half-baked conspiracy theory had the film not been as laughably inept, both in terms of its making and its tonalities. It cannot by any stretch of the imagination be accused of being a balanced investigation.

The Kerala Story Review: The Writing Is Consistently Cringeworthy, The Acting Is No Better
A still from The Kerala Story. (courtesy: YouTube)


Cast: Adah Sharma, Pranav Mishra, Yogita Bihani, Saniya Mir, Eleena Koul, Siddhi Idnani, Sonia Balani
Director: Sudipto Sen

Rating: Half a star (out of 5)

God's Own Country is about to be decimated, bacha lijiye, the battered and bruised protagonist of The Kerala Story implores. But saving Kerala is certainly not the purpose of this shoddy film aimed at telling the world that the state is sitting on a ticking time bomb. Islamist terrorists scout for female suicide bombers in the state, the film asserts without a modicum of moderation and proceeds to demonise a people.

Professedly based on "many true stories", The Kerala Story, directed by Sudipto Sen, isn't really interested in the truth as a whole. Taking the cases of a handful of missing girls, it spins a yarn that would have us believe that Kerala has contributed thousands of foot soldiers to ISIS over the years. Needless to say, that claim isn't backed up with either evidence or genuine concern.

No more than a lengthy WhatsApp forward in the guise of a movie, The Kerala Story would have been deemed a passable vehicle for a half-baked conspiracy theory had the film not been as laughably inept, both in terms of its making and its tonalities. It cannot by any stretch of the imagination be accused of being a balanced investigation.

The writing is consistently cringeworthy. The acting is no better. The script gives the girls lines so stilted that that collectively they are an act of cinematic terror. The Kerala Story is a pathetic piece of cinema, if one can call it that, without a single saving grace. It is out to vilify an Indian state on flimsy grounds.

Stupidity scales greater heights when a purported turning point written into the plot hinges on the improbable fact that the two Hindu girls - Shalini and Geetanjali - do not know that Christians say grace and Muslims pray before every meal.

The writers of The Kerala Story are obviously targeting their core audience who they clearly do not think much of. One would be surprised if they actually believe that it is logical for two Hindu girls in a state as multi-religious as Kerala to be unaware of the basic cultural mores of adherents of other faiths.

That, then, is the story - The Kerala Story is a film so bad that its incompetence would have provided some entertainment had it not played so loose and fast with facts and twisted them to suit its explicit, egregious ends.

https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/...-5-star-4007753#pfrom=home-ndtv_lateststories

 

[MP2011]

The bold part says it all. Even if you are making an out and out propaganda movie, at least make it honestly which clearly the producers of this propaganda don't know how to do.

 

[Romali_rotti]

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[Romali_rotti]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An ISIS widow Ayisha (Converted) got married to Abdul Rashid, joined ISIS in Afghanistan & later he got killed there. She wanted to return back to India.<br><br>‘The Kerala Story’ movie is coming upfront. I'm glad such issues are getting known for common Indians. <a href="https://t.co/7vUbv1YPL8">pic.twitter.com/7vUbv1YPL8</a></p>— BALA (@erbmjha) <a href="https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1653031164674969600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why are so many females changing their name to Aiesha once they convert, what about Sainabha or something else.

Need to change this repetitious behaviors, getting boring imo..

 

[RexRex]

I can contribute one datapoint here. A close friend of my cousin was a ortho-christian malayali girl who married a muslim from Northern Kerala, much to the opposition from her family. Eventually the husband showed a different side of himself, started being abusive to his wife, ranting about religion 24/7 & how she should always wear burqa. His facebook feeds were full of paeans and comments about islamism, jihad and all kinds of extremist slogans. The girl wanted to divorce but it was complicated by them having a child. The guy disappeared one day right about the time ISIS phenomenon started in 2014 and was never to be heard from again. The couple's picture appeared in the local papers soon after as part of an article discussing kerala-isis links.

That said, 32,000 is a wild exaggeration of the numbers and more likely just a BJP talking point.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The court did the right thing. Why ban media that you don't like ? That is a very regressive stance. Don't like it, don't watch

Aren't you British ? Maybe start preaching the enlightenment values of free speech and expression, instead of banning stuff eww.

If you are British you wouldn't be equating courts in India which give a clean chit to everything Modi or his govt does, with British courts where you can bet there wouldn't be a situation where thousands were killed while police stood by under the State Minister's watch.

The principle of upholding free speech is fine in a civilised country, but should this sort of vile propaganda be given licence in a country like India where even a facebook post by a 15 year old girl led to neighbourhood riots and torching of homes?

 

[uppercut]

If you are British you wouldn't be equating courts in India which give a clean chit to everything Modi or his govt does, with British courts where you can bet there wouldn't be a situation where thousands were killed while police stood by under the State Minister's watch.

The principle of upholding free speech is fine in a civilised country, but should this sort of vile propaganda be given licence in a country like India where even a facebook post by a 15 year old girl led to neighbourhood riots and torching of homes?

How is the prosecution of Tony Blair coming up in those British courts for aiding and abetting War crimes in Iraq ?

 

[Rajdeep]

Things that seem to be believed

1) Movies like Kashmir Files, Kerala files are propaganda but BBC documentary is gospel of truth.

2) Same BBC which was beacon of truth in Gujarat documentary was a villain for exposing human rights in Qatar world cup.

3) The same people who were criticizing boycott gangs during the movie Pathaan are now calling for a ban on Kerala files.

Mind get numb when you read these kind of hypocrisy

But the good thing is majority now realizes the true snakes in socitey and don't fall for these hypocrites anymore.


The Kerala Story clocks massive advance bookings

The Kerala Story has secured the fifth highest advance bookings of the year, selling 32,000 tickets in national chains. Despite facing competition from Hollywood blockbuster The Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 3, which also registered good advance bookings, The Kerala Story is expected to perform well at the box office, with total collections estimated to exceed the ₹10 crore net India mark.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-despite-poor-reviews/amp-11683259071786.html


Absolutely loving the way the Indian filmmakers exposing these stories which were considered taboos before.

Great work.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How is the prosecution of Tony Blair coming up in those British courts for aiding and abetting War crimes in Iraq ?

Which prosecutions are you referring to?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Things that seem to be believed

1) Movies like Kashmir Files, Kerala files are propaganda but BBC documentary is gospel of truth.

2) Same BBC which was beacon of truth in Gujarat documentary was a villain for exposing human rights in Qatar world cup.

3) The same people who were criticizing boycott gangs during the movie Pathaan are now calling for a ban on Kerala files.

Mind get numb when you read these kind of hypocrisy

But the good thing is majority now realizes the true snakes in socitey and don't fall for these hypocrites anymore.


The Kerala Story clocks massive advance bookings

The Kerala Story has secured the fifth highest advance bookings of the year, selling 32,000 tickets in national chains. Despite facing competition from Hollywood blockbuster The Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 3, which also registered good advance bookings, The Kerala Story is expected to perform well at the box office, with total collections estimated to exceed the ₹10 crore net India mark.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-despite-poor-reviews/amp-11683259071786.html


Absolutely loving the way the Indian filmmakers exposing these stories which were considered taboos before.

Great work.

Just goes to prove my point, there is a massive audience in Hindustan for a movie which demonises Muslims. Even movies which are based on pure fiction are lauded with little regard on what a divisive effect this will have on a multicultural society like India.

But I guess this may be no coincidence either. Perhaps this movie speaks to a longing among the majority religionists who don't want a multicultural nation.

 

[uppercut]

Which prosecutions are you referring to?

Exactly !! There are none. An attempt was made but guess who blocked it. British judges !!


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...r-prosecution-over-iraq-war-blocked-by-judges


Its a length article but here is the gist:

“The invasion and subsequent occupation resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individuals as well as the displacement of over 4 million others including General al-Rabbat who has had to seek sanctuary and refuge in another country.

“Iraq has been left decimated and in a state of chronic instability. Despite all of this, and the clear findings of the Chilcot inquiry which laid bare the conduct of those that should be held to account, the high court has confirmed that there is to be no accountability. Those responsible are to remain unpunished. This is not justice.”

Khan said the government had been given “de facto domestic immunity” because “as long as it fails to enact legislation which makes the crime of aggression a domestic criminal offence, any leader can act as he/she chooses knowing that whatever action they take, it can be taken with complete impunity.”

Other countries, including Germany, Kosovo, and Serbia, have enacted domestic legislation, Khan said. “The failure of the British government to give tangible commitment to the prosecution of the crime of aggression undermines the rule of law. It sets a dangerous precedent in times of global insecurity and sets an example to the rest of the world of how to commit the most serious of crimes and get away with it.

“It is now the responsibility of the UK parliament to end this deplorable state of affairs and introduce legislation which ensures that the crime of aggression can be prosecuted in the criminal courts here.”

 

[MenInG]

Exactly !! There are none. An attempt was made but guess who blocked it. British judges !!


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...r-prosecution-over-iraq-war-blocked-by-judges


Its a length article but here is the gist:

“The invasion and subsequent occupation resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individuals as well as the displacement of over 4 million others including General al-Rabbat who has had to seek sanctuary and refuge in another country.

“Iraq has been left decimated and in a state of chronic instability. Despite all of this, and the clear findings of the Chilcot inquiry which laid bare the conduct of those that should be held to account, the high court has confirmed that there is to be no accountability. Those responsible are to remain unpunished. This is not justice.”

Khan said the government had been given “de facto domestic immunity” because “as long as it fails to enact legislation which makes the crime of aggression a domestic criminal offence, any leader can act as he/she chooses knowing that whatever action they take, it can be taken with complete impunity.”

Other countries, including Germany, Kosovo, and Serbia, have enacted domestic legislation, Khan said. “The failure of the British government to give tangible commitment to the prosecution of the crime of aggression undermines the rule of law. It sets a dangerous precedent in times of global insecurity and sets an example to the rest of the world of how to commit the most serious of crimes and get away with it.

“It is now the responsibility of the UK parliament to end this deplorable state of affairs and introduce legislation which ensures that the crime of aggression can be prosecuted in the criminal courts here.”

I am trying to see what the connection it is with the Kerala Story.

My suggestion is to get back to topic in your next post.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Exactly !! There are none. An attempt was made but guess who blocked it. British judges !!


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...r-prosecution-over-iraq-war-blocked-by-judges


Its a length article but here is the gist:

“The invasion and subsequent occupation resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individuals as well as the displacement of over 4 million others including General al-Rabbat who has had to seek sanctuary and refuge in another country.

“Iraq has been left decimated and in a state of chronic instability. Despite all of this, and the clear findings of the Chilcot inquiry which laid bare the conduct of those that should be held to account, the high court has confirmed that there is to be no accountability. Those responsible are to remain unpunished. This is not justice.”

Khan said the government had been given “de facto domestic immunity” because “as long as it fails to enact legislation which makes the crime of aggression a domestic criminal offence, any leader can act as he/she chooses knowing that whatever action they take, it can be taken with complete impunity.”

Other countries, including Germany, Kosovo, and Serbia, have enacted domestic legislation, Khan said. “The failure of the British government to give tangible commitment to the prosecution of the crime of aggression undermines the rule of law. It sets a dangerous precedent in times of global insecurity and sets an example to the rest of the world of how to commit the most serious of crimes and get away with it.

“It is now the responsibility of the UK parliament to end this deplorable state of affairs and introduce legislation which ensures that the crime of aggression can be prosecuted in the criminal courts here.”

A couple of crucial differences:

1. The war on Iraq was an international war led by the US not the UK, we are just their lapdogs.

2. Bombing the crap out of people in other countries is their problem. When you pit community against community in your own nation then that is YOUR problem.

Why do you think evil Blair made peace with the IRA even while dropping bombs in various other continents?

 

[uppercut]

A couple of crucial differences:

1. The war on Iraq was an international war led by the US not the UK, we are just their lapdogs.

If your country is a lapdog of the USA what are you proud of then ? Iam asking since you keep mentioning about the greatness of Britain repeatedly in many threads.

2. Bombing the crap out of people in other countries is their problem. When you pit community against community in your own nation then that is YOUR problem.

Why do you think evil Blair made peace with the IRA even while dropping bombs in various other continents?

Absolutely not. There are international laws against such reckless war mongering especially now that it is abundantly clear the stupidity of that Iraq war.

Anyhow its now very obvious from your post that you really dont have any genuine sympathy for those that were affected by unjust acts. Your umbrage is selective in nature at best and yet you have the cheek to lecture others when your country is practically the true mother of many evils we see and live on a daily basis.

 

[the Great Khan]

If your country is a lapdog of the USA what are you proud of then ? Iam asking since you keep mentioning about the greatness of Britain repeatedly in many threads.



Absolutely not. There are international laws against such reckless war mongering especially now that it is abundantly clear the stupidity of that Iraq war.

Anyhow its now very obvious from your post that you really dont have any genuine sympathy for those that were affected by unjust acts. Your umbrage is selective in nature at best and yet you have the cheek to lecture others when your country is practically the true mother of many evils we see and live on a daily basis.

I fail to see how this is related to the topic at hand. Can you explain

A) why your country is exporting terror and then making movies about it..

B) if they aren't exporting terror why are they saying they are?

 

[uppercut]

I am trying to see what the connection it is with the Kerala Story.

My suggestion is to get back to topic in your next post.

That would be a question for Captain Rishwat who decided to slip in with his obligatory condescending remarks about Indian judicial system and how supposedly the courts in Britain are the paragon of virtues. But yeah you are right nothing to do with the topic at hand!

 

[uppercut]

I fail to see how this is related to the topic at hand. Can you explain

See my previous post ...

A) why your country is exporting terror and then making movies about it..

B) if they aren't exporting terror why are they saying they are?

Before i respond can you clarify what you mean when you say "your country is exporting terror ... " are you saying its a deliberate official policy of India to indulge in such activities ?

 

[Energy]

I wonder if we will get any bolly movie on the increase in mob lynchings of Muslims in the last 8 years. Surely there will be some statistics associated with those.

You could also make it into a CID thriller on how the bhakt brigade got away with the crime due to lack of evidence.

Demonising Muslims in movies one after the other is getting old. But I'm sure the movie will do good business in the rural and uneducated parts of India where it'll likely be a blockbuster. Followed by news of vandalism in a nearby mosque.

 

[the Great Khan]

See my previous post

Before i respond can you clarify what you mean when you say "your country is exporting terror ... " are you saying its a deliberate official policy of India to indulge in such activities ?

It has been unofficial policy since the 1950's.

But my question is quite telling. You see if your current extremist govt is making a film in which it is claiming that 32000 of its citizens have gone abroad to murder and kill then either this is a blatant open faced lie which we will come to or it is the truth.

If it is the truth then your govt should surely know about 32000 citizens going abroad. If it doesn't then either it is incompetent or it turns a blind eye. On the other hand if you say they had nothing to do with it then this is also the same argument used by your adversaries who say we can't be held responsible for criminals. But those adversaries are pilloried by your govt and accused of lying etc etc. So the hypocrisy is quite stark here.

Now coming onto the fact it being a lie. If this is the case then why is your current regime allowing such a lie that is so bare faced to go unchallenged knowing it can cause citizens harm. Either again they know and want to do this on purpose or are turning a blind eye knowing it can do harm. Either way in all scenarios your govt is.complicit and is willing to ensure the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims in India by laying the mood music for it.

 

[RexRex]

If you are British you wouldn't be equating courts in India which give a clean chit to everything Modi or his govt does, with British courts where you can bet there wouldn't be a situation where thousands were killed while police stood by under the State Minister's watch.

I've lost count of the number of Indian millionaires hiding in the UK that have run away from Indian banks for defaulting and pleading with the UK courts not to extradite them. The British courts are an 'accomodating' bunch. I haven't even mentioned all the Russian oligarchs laundering their dirty money in the UK through british firms.

The principle of upholding free speech is fine in a civilised country, but should this sort of vile propaganda be given licence in a country like India where even a facebook post by a 15 year old girl led to neighbourhood riots and torching of homes?

So because of some facebook incident in some part of India, 1.3 billion people should be held hostage and have their rights and freedoms suspended?

 

[uppercut]

It has been unofficial policy since the 1950's.

Can we see some credible evidence to back that up so I can properly answer the rest of your post below? Start with how many UN sanctioned terrorists living in India.

But my question is quite telling. You see if your current extremist govt is making a film in which it is claiming that 32000 of its citizens have gone abroad to murder and kill then either this is a blatant open faced lie which we will come to or it is the truth.

If it is the truth then your govt should surely know about 32000 citizens going abroad. If it doesn't then either it is incompetent or it turns a blind eye. On the other hand if you say they had nothing to do with it then this is also the same argument used by your adversaries who say we can't be held responsible for criminals. But those adversaries are pilloried by your govt and accused of lying etc etc. So the hypocrisy is quite stark here.

Now coming onto the fact it being a lie. If this is the case then why is your current regime allowing such a lie that is so bare faced to go unchallenged knowing it can cause citizens harm. Either again they know and want to do this on purpose or are turning a blind eye knowing it can do harm. Either way in all scenarios your govt is.complicit and is willing to ensure the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims in India by laying the mood music for it.

does it occur to you that a whole bunch of Western countries including the UK had the same problem (ISIS recruits) ? Going by your logic these are all Terrorist sympathizing countries then ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If your country is a lapdog of the USA what are you proud of then ? Iam asking since you keep mentioning about the greatness of Britain repeatedly in many threads.



Absolutely not. There are international laws against such reckless war mongering especially now that it is abundantly clear the stupidity of that Iraq war.

Anyhow its now very obvious from your post that you really dont have any genuine sympathy for those that were affected by unjust acts. Your umbrage is selective in nature at best and yet you have the cheek to lecture others when your country is practically the true mother of many evils we see and live on a daily basis.

It's one of the leading nations of the world, one of the handful of fully developed nations which provides a good level of living standards for it's citizens. We might bomb other countries, but those who live within our shores are assured of the protection of the state. Unlike your country where mob lynchings are not only approved, but the state is complicit in ethnic cleansing of it's Muslim population.

 

[uppercut]

It's one of the leading nations of the world, one of the handful of fully developed nations which provides a good level of living standards for it's citizens. We might bomb other countries, but those who live within our shores are assured of the protection of the state. Unlike your country where mob lynchings are not only approved, but the state is complicit in ethnic cleansing of it's Muslim population.

create a separate thread or link any existing thread where people can properly address and fix your British myopia.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

create a separate thread or link any existing thread where people can properly address and fix your British myopia.

It wasn't me who brought British into this thread, it was [MENTION=29115]RexRex[/MENTION] whom I quoted in post #52. If I am asked a British perspective then it is only polite to give it. In any case, it is a good benchmark on first world standards of treatment of minorities compared to India, on topic.

 

[uppercut]

It wasn't me who brought British into this thread, it was [MENTION=29115]RexRex[/MENTION] whom I quoted in post #52. If I am asked a British perspective then it is only polite to give it. In any case, it is a good benchmark on first world standards of treatment of minorities compared to India, on topic.

this isn't the only thread where you try to hijack the discussion ... there are many others ... and the common theme is your fixation for everything British .... so maybe start a dedicated thread or link an existing one where you can elaborate your theories and people can properly dismantle them.

 

[the Great Khan]

Can we see some credible evidence to back that up so I can properly answer the rest of your post below? Start with how many UN sanctioned terrorists living in India.




does it occur to you that a whole bunch of Western countries including the UK had the same problem (ISIS recruits) ? Going by your logic these are all Terrorist sympathizing countries then ?

Yes I will post the evidence soon. Unfortunately you won't accept it but that's your problem not mine. With regards to UN terrorists we'll your govt is saying 32000 ISIS fighters have left your nation and ISIS are internationally recognised as a terror organisation. Now before you say oh it's not our govt well the number has come from somewhere right.

Like I said above either way your regime is acting in quite the despicable manner.

With regards to Indian terror the ApS attack was an India sponsored terror attack..any other country would have retaliated.

 

[uppercut]

Yes I will post the evidence soon. Unfortunately you won't accept it but that's your problem not mine. With regards to UN terrorists we'll your govt is saying 32000 ISIS fighters have left your nation and ISIS are internationally recognised as a terror organisation. Now before you say oh it's not our govt well the number has come from somewhere right.

Like I said above either way your regime is acting in quite the despicable manner.

Start with the evidence and also answer my question as to how the situation is different from UK which also had the ISI recruitment problem and I will respond .... I can guarantee you right now that you will be the first one to quietly slip away from this thread.

With regards to Indian terror the ApS attack was an India sponsored terror attack..any other country would have retaliated.

this one ? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Things that seem to be believed

1) Movies like Kashmir Files, Kerala files are propaganda but BBC documentary is gospel of truth.

2) Same BBC which was beacon of truth in Gujarat documentary was a villain for exposing human rights in Qatar world cup.

3) The same people who were criticizing boycott gangs during the movie Pathaan are now calling for a ban on Kerala files.

Mind get numb when you read these kind of hypocrisy

But the good thing is majority now realizes the true snakes in socitey and don't fall for these hypocrites anymore.


The Kerala Story clocks massive advance bookings

The Kerala Story has secured the fifth highest advance bookings of the year, selling 32,000 tickets in national chains. Despite facing competition from Hollywood blockbuster The Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 3, which also registered good advance bookings, The Kerala Story is expected to perform well at the box office, with total collections estimated to exceed the ₹10 crore net India mark.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-despite-poor-reviews/amp-11683259071786.html


Absolutely loving the way the Indian filmmakers exposing these stories which were considered taboos before.

Great work.

True snakes already left this country and are now showing their fake patriotism towards India online.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

this isn't the only thread where you try to hijack the discussion ... there are many others ... and the common theme is your fixation for everything British .... so maybe start a dedicated thread or link an existing one where you can elaborate your theories and people can properly dismantle them.

As I already pointed out, it was [MENTION=29115]RexRex[/MENTION] who asked me to give a British perspective, maybe you should check and confirm for yourself instead of ranting. I answered, that would be that if you wouldn't keep dredging it up. Let it go and get back on topic. It's that easy.

 

[Technics 1210]

As expected, there's ZERO evidence presented by RSS supporters claiming 32000 'Indian' women were recruited by ISIS.

Just another dose of inane ramblings from the usual.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you are British you wouldn't be equating courts in India which give a clean chit to everything Modi or his govt does, with British courts where you can bet there wouldn't be a situation where thousands were killed while police stood by under the State Minister's watch.

The principle of upholding free speech is fine in a civilised country, but should this sort of vile propaganda be given licence in a country like India where even a facebook post by a 15 year old girl led to neighbourhood riots and torching of homes?

Courts in UK??? A country built on invading looting and killing other human beings across the world. )

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes I will post the evidence soon. Unfortunately you won't accept it but that's your problem not mine. With regards to UN terrorists we'll your govt is saying 32000 ISIS fighters have left your nation and ISIS are internationally recognised as a terror organisation. Now before you say oh it's not our govt well the number has come from somewhere right.

Like I said above either way your regime is acting in quite the despicable manner.

With regards to Indian terror the ApS attack was an India sponsored terror attack..any other country would have retaliated.

Where did the government say 32000 fighters?

 

[uppercut]

As I already pointed out, it was [MENTION=29115]RexRex[/MENTION] who asked me to give a British perspective, maybe you should check and confirm for yourself instead of ranting. I answered, that would be that if you wouldn't keep dredging it up. Let it go and get back on topic. It's that easy.

because of your tendency to try and shift the discussions to your fav topic of Britain this Britain that ... so if you are soo fond of that topic it makes perfect sense to create your own corner to discuss that topic? Just dont blame if it comes back to bite you where it hurts the most. Ohhh and dont forget to tag me if and when you create that thread.