"Not Our Kerala Story": Congress Leader Shashi Tharoor Slams Film

[cricketjoshila]

How Isis recruiters found fertile ground in Kerala, India’s tourist gem

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...ters-fertile-ground-kerala-indias-tourist-gem

This was written in 2016, in The Guardian.

 

[Justcrazy]

I saw 80 % of the movie , it is pure garbage , just false propagating tool to malign Islam. Nothing different in India . What else you expect when and illiterate RSS bootlicker becomes a PM.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Just finished the movie.

It seems to be based on true events, we know that the ISIS recruitment of Hindu & Christian girls exist in Kerala that is a fact.

The majority of the Muslims will cry foul along with the pseudo secularists

Majority of the Hindus will say all of the movie is true.

Fact is it is somewhere in between. I will give it a 6/10...

and LOL @ the crowd that tried to get the movie banned, bunch of dumba*** now the movie has got unbelievable support thanks to this wonderful act of stupidity.

Ban a movie because it hurts Muslim sentiments = That is all fine.

Ban a movie because it hurts Hindu sentiments = How dare they, freedom of speech is in risk by the RSS, Fascist government, blah blah blah..

lol

 

[Hitman]

Just finished the movie.

It seems to be based on true events, we know that the ISIS recruitment of Hindu & Christian girls exist in Kerala that is a fact.

The majority of the Muslims will cry foul along with the pseudo secularists

Majority of the Hindus will say all of the movie is true.

Fact is it is somewhere in between. I will give it a 6/10...

and LOL @ the crowd that tried to get the movie banned, bunch of dumba*** now the movie has got unbelievable support thanks to this wonderful act of stupidity.

Ban a movie because it hurts Muslim sentiments = That is all fine.

Ban a movie because it hurts Hindu sentiments = How dare they, freedom of speech is in risk by the RSS, Fascist government, blah blah blah..

lol

I'll definitely watch it with my mother.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I'll definitely watch it with my mother.

If the pseudo seculars and the Congress party wants to ban it, Then it is a sign you must watch it, there is definitely truth in it but not all of it is...

 

[Hitman]

If the pseudo seculars and the Congress party wants to ban it, Then it is a sign you must watch it, there is definitely truth in it but not all of it is...

I don't care what others think. I don't need their permission to watch a movie or do something else in my life. Remember the outrage by some people before and during the release of The Kashmir Files? What could they do ultimately?

 

[cricketjoshila]

I saw 80 % of the movie , it is pure garbage , just false propagating tool to malign Islam. Nothing different in India . What else you expect when and illiterate RSS bootlicker becomes a PM.

He isn't illiterate and he is elected by the people of India.

I don't understand why do pakistanis have to keep poking their noses and make unpalatable remarks on things that don't concern them.

I hardly see or hear Indians bother about who is leading Pakistan. But on this forum i regularly read posts regarding which party which person is leading India and how bad are they.

 

[the Great Khan]

Start with the evidence and also answer my question as to how the situation is different from UK which also had the ISI recruitment problem and I will respond .... I can guarantee you right now that you will be the first one to quietly slip away from this thread.



this one ? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre

No. I asked the questions first then you answer as its your regime in the Dock. Don't try to divert the conversation away from the matter at hand. I have no problems discussing my assertion about Indian sponsored terrorism above but first answer or respond to my statements.

 

[uppercut]

see your own post# 74 (which I have quoted below) where you said you will post the evidence. My response depends on that as I said earlier in pos# 68. Also confirm if the ApS terror attack that you are talking about is this one this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_P...chool_massacre

Yes I will post the evidence soon. Unfortunately you won't accept it but that's your problem not mine. With regards to UN terrorists we'll your govt is saying 32000 ISIS fighters have left your nation and ISIS are internationally recognised as a terror organisation. Now before you say oh it's not our govt well the number has come from somewhere right.

Like I said above either way your regime is acting in quite the despicable manner.

With regards to Indian terror the ApS attack was an India sponsored terror attack..any other country would have retaliated.

No. I asked the questions first then you answer as its your regime in the Dock. Don't try to divert the conversation away from the matter at hand. I have no problems discussing my assertion about Indian sponsored terrorism above but first answer or respond to my statements.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I'll definitely watch it with my mother.

Remind me again, which religion did you claim your family follows?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just finished the movie.

It seems to be based on true events, we know that the ISIS recruitment of Hindu & Christian girls exist in Kerala that is a fact.

The majority of the Muslims will cry foul along with the pseudo secularists

Majority of the Hindus will say all of the movie is true.

Fact is it is somewhere in between. I will give it a 6/10...

and LOL @ the crowd that tried to get the movie banned, bunch of dumba*** now the movie has got unbelievable support thanks to this wonderful act of stupidity.

Ban a movie because it hurts Muslim sentiments = That is all fine.

Ban a movie because it hurts Hindu sentiments = How dare they, freedom of speech is in risk by the RSS, Fascist government, blah blah blah..

lol

Did anyone say ban a movie because it was hurting Muslim sentiments? I think the objections were that it was a dangerous movie because it was based on evil lies aimed at demonising Muslims even further in India. While that might seem like fun for Hindus living in Australia, if you live in India itself, the potential to cause further division between communities is not likely to be productive. Unless of course, you believe there is an ultimate final solution on the horizon....

 

[Rajdeep]

Did anyone say ban a movie because it was hurting Muslim sentiments? I think the objections were that it was a dangerous movie because it was based on evil lies aimed at demonising Muslims even further in India. While that might seem like fun for Hindus living in Australia, if you live in India itself, the potential to cause further division between communities is not likely to be productive. Unless of course, you believe there is an ultimate final solution on the horizon....

How did you come to the conclusion that it is based on evil lies? Not that your opinion matters but its funny how you find Kashmir files, Kerala files all being lies but BBC documentary is reality. Same BBC which was a villain during FIFA world cup

Anyone that lives in India are well aware of religious convertions in Kerala, especially in Mallapuram region. Also organizations like PFI which mass recurits brainwashed young people and push them towards extremism. This movie is just telling the tale of a state which was well known to everyone but no one dared to make it a movie on it before.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Did anyone say ban a movie because it was hurting Muslim sentiments?

I think the objections were that it was a dangerous movie because it was based on evil lies aimed at demonising Muslims even further in India.

It's not based on lies, there is a lot of truth in it, Kerala does have an ISIS problem were Hindu/Christian girls are recruited.

While that might seem like fun for Hindus living in Australia, if you live in India itself, the potential to cause further division between communities is not likely to be productive. Unless of course, you believe there is an ultimate final solution on the horizon....

Thank you Mr Neutral Brit for your concerns about Indian muslims, however freedom of speech should be allowed regardless, be it if a Hindu god is mocked or Prophet Muhammad is questioned or a Kerala story be played in theaters, it should be allowed.

I see this type of sentiment from village Pakistanis, pseudo seculars and Indian muslims when the minority community feels targeted in India. However like my previous post indicated should a Hindu majority feel they need to have something that is bothering them to be banned/blocked or whatever, narrative changes to: Hindutva, RSS, ban on freedom of rights. I just love this minority appeasing, Pakistan should take note and do this for their minuscule Hindu minority before they fade away

....

 

[Hitman]

Remind me again, which religion did you claim your family follows?

I'm a Born Again Christian. My deceased father was an atheist. My mother, brother and sister-in-law are non practising Hindus.

 

[Technics 1210]

Don't believe the hype or evil lies, there is squat evidence supporting the preposterous claim that 32000 Muslim Indian women were recruited by ISIS. If anything Hindu women converted to Islam to avoid the perils of Sati.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Don't believe the hype or evil lies, there is squat evidence supporting the preposterous claim that 32000 Muslim Indian women were recruited by ISIS. If anything Hindu women converted to Islam to avoid the perils of Sati.

It's incredible. Even the movie producers have admitted that it is fictional, and that they are using artistic licence to tell this story, yet we have hindutvas and born again Christians (supposedly) trying to argue the 32,000 ISIS brides is based on fact.

This is the face of Shining India?

 

[Technics 1210]

It's incredible. Even the movie producers have admitted that it is fictional, and that they are using artistic licence to tell this story, yet we have hindutvas and born again Christians (supposedly) trying to argue the 32,000 ISIS brides is based on fact.

This is the face of Shining India?

At the end of the day the only facts available are that Modi was banned from the US/UK on the grounds Hindutva was recognised as a terrorist ideology.

India was never shining, its just had a coat of Brasso.

 

[Justcrazy]

He isn't illiterate and he is elected by the people of India.

I don't understand why do pakistanis have to keep poking their noses and make unpalatable remarks on things that don't concern them.

I hardly see or hear Indians bother about who is leading Pakistan. But on this forum i regularly read posts regarding which party which person is leading India and how bad are they.

When 80 % of a country is a certain religious affiliation brainwashed by RSS , anyone can be voted as PM. I do not think Modi is educated at all.

Also , I do not know how you think I am from Pakistan ? Can you show any of comment where I have said I am from Pakistan ?

 

[uppercut]

When 80 % of a country is a certain religious affiliation brainwashed by RSS , anyone can be voted as PM. I do not think Modi is educated at all.

Also , I do not know how you think I am from Pakistan ? Can you show any of comment where I have said I am from Pakistan ?

if 80% of the country is brainwashed and worse ... its being led by an illiterate PM how do you explain India's economic growth with large scale infrastructure growth and record forex reserves one of the lowest inflations in the world and many other economic data points ?

 

[daytrader]

Theatre Owners To Stop Screening Of "The Kerala Story" In Tamil Nadu
"Due to law and order concerns, other films shown in multiplexes that screen "The Kerala Story'' suffer. It affects our income. That's why this decision," a senior member of the Theatre Owners' Association told NDTV.

Theatre owners in Tamil Nadu have decided not to screen the controversial movie "The Kerala Story" amid opposition to the release. Several online ticket booking platforms have already removed it from their Chennai listings. Thirteen theatres are screening the film in the state at presemt.
Theatre owners say screening the film affects other films in multiplexes.

"Due to law and order concerns, other films shown in multiplexes that screen this movie suffer. It affects our income. That's why this decision," a senior member of the Theatre Owners' Association told NDTV.

The Tamil Nadu government has not banned the film. At present, Mani Ratnam's Ponniyin Selvan 2 or PS 2 is doing well at box office. In Tamil Nadu, PS2 is largely distributed by Red Giant Movies. which has close links with the ruling DMK.

The announcement to stop screening "The Kerala Story" comes days after the Madras High Court dismissed a plea seeking a ban of the film earlier this week.

Muslim organisations had sought a ban on the film alleging that it made an exaggerated claim that 32,000 Hindu and Christian women in Kerala have converted and got lured into joining the terror organisation ISIS.

...
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/the...tamil-nadu-4013257#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

 

[the Great Khan]

see your own post# 74 (which I have quoted below) where you said you will post the evidence. My response depends on that as I said earlier in pos# 68. Also confirm if the ApS terror attack that you are talking about is this one this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_P...chool_massacre

I said I would post the evidence soon. However it will detract from the issue which you are desperate to do. Answer or respond to my statements above then we can talk about Indian terror in Pakistan.

 

[Rajdeep]

Theatre Owners To Stop Screening Of "The Kerala Story" In Tamil Nadu
"Due to law and order concerns, other films shown in multiplexes that screen "The Kerala Story'' suffer. It affects our income. That's why this decision," a senior member of the Theatre Owners' Association told NDTV.

Theatre owners in Tamil Nadu have decided not to screen the controversial movie "The Kerala Story" amid opposition to the release. Several online ticket booking platforms have already removed it from their Chennai listings. Thirteen theatres are screening the film in the state at presemt.
Theatre owners say screening the film affects other films in multiplexes.

"Due to law and order concerns, other films shown in multiplexes that screen this movie suffer. It affects our income. That's why this decision," a senior member of the Theatre Owners' Association told NDTV.

The Tamil Nadu government has not banned the film. At present, Mani Ratnam's Ponniyin Selvan 2 or PS 2 is doing well at box office. In Tamil Nadu, PS2 is largely distributed by Red Giant Movies. which has close links with the ruling DMK.

The announcement to stop screening "The Kerala Story" comes days after the Madras High Court dismissed a plea seeking a ban of the film earlier this week.

Muslim organisations had sought a ban on the film alleging that it made an exaggerated claim that 32,000 Hindu and Christian women in Kerala have converted and got lured into joining the terror organisation ISIS.

...
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/the...tamil-nadu-4013257#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

Basically boycott gang. Where are the folks who were crying foul when similar call was been made to ban Pathan? Now no one will talk about freedom of speech, artistic freedom etc etc. What hypocrites

 

[Romali_rotti]

Basically boycott gang. Where are the folks who were crying foul when similar call was been made to ban Pathan? Now no one will talk about freedom of speech, artistic freedom etc etc. What hypocrites

Some rules for some and some for others.

 

[Rajdeep]

Some rules for some and some for others.

That is the biggest problem in India i.e selective secularism. People thinks BJP and its supporters are anti-liberals but in reality they are most liberal people but all they ask for is equal footing for everyone, including majority. Throughout Indian history since 1947, secularism always meant minority appeasement. It was ingrained in people's mind so much that they believed secularism is giving reservation to minorities or a special status to a state etc. If anyone talks about removing those, they are bigots, racists and right wingers. I am amazed how many people got fooled by this agenda until 2014 happened and Modi came to power.

In states like Tamil Nadu, where BJP is not in power, this selective secularism is still going on. Why else would you want to ban Kerala Files? India is a free country no where everyone has right to make a movie. Let people watch who want to watch it and others can ignore. Boycotting a movie just bcoz it will disrupt law and order situation is hilarious excuse. This is a classic case of minority appeasement sold to gullibale public as secularism.

India is a liberal democracy and artistic freedom is guranteed in our constitution. Hold on, I think I have heard amazing this line somewhere. Let me think...oh yes, this gyaan was given by our liberal brothers during Pathan movie and how Andhbhakts are boycotting it to please their master.

Now no one will talk...Abhi sab shanti shanti hai...

 

[the Great Khan]

That is the biggest problem in India i.e selective secularism. People thinks BJP and its supporters are anti-liberals but in reality they are most liberal people but all they ask for is equal footing for everyone, including majority. Throughout Indian history since 1947, secularism always meant minority appeasement. It was ingrained in people's mind so much that they believed secularism is giving reservation to minorities or a special status to a state etc. If anyone talks about removing those, they are bigots, racists and right wingers. I am amazed how many people got fooled by this agenda until 2014 happened and Modi came to power.

In states like Tamil Nadu, where BJP is not in power, this selective secularism is still going on. Why else would you want to ban Kerala Files? India is a free country no where everyone has right to make a movie. Let people watch who want to watch it and others can ignore. Boycotting a movie just bcoz it will disrupt law and order situation is hilarious excuse. This is a classic case of minority appeasement sold to gullibale public as secularism.

India is a liberal democracy and artistic freedom is guranteed in our constitution. Hold on, I think I have heard amazing this line somewhere. Let me think...oh yes, this gyaan was given by our liberal brothers during Pathan movie and how Andhbhakts are boycotting it to please their master.

Now no one will talk...Abhi sab shanti shanti hai...

Equal footing to spread lies and race hate..ok..
I wonder of a bunch of nazis made a Holocaust denial movie in Germany whether that would be banned or not..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

if 80% of the country is brainwashed and worse ... its being led by an illiterate PM how do you explain India's economic growth with large scale infrastructure growth and record forex reserves one of the lowest inflations in the world and many other economic data points ?

I'm no expert on economy, but I would guess it has a lot to do with India's historical decision to make English language the preferred choice taught in schools across the country, and Manmohan's liberalisation and reduction up of red tape for trade with India during his term as PM. I would be amazed if it had much to do with an uneducated Modi.

 

[Rajdeep]

Equal footing to spread lies and race hate..ok..
I wonder of a bunch of nazis made a Holocaust denial movie in Germany whether that would be banned or not..

Think you are posting a very generic but expected response on a wrong thread. What has Nazis and Holocaust got to do with Kerala? Presuming you are trying to compare Nazis with BJP, let me tell you BJP has never held more than 1 seat in Kerala. At least read the subject of the thread before responding

You don't know about ground realities unfortunately. Kerala had and still has mass religious conversion issues over the years. It is most rampant in Mallapuram region. Pretty sure you have not heard about Mallapuram but its a district in Kerala known as mini Kashmir of South India. It is also well documented that handful of Indians who fled and joined ISIS are from state of Kerala. They were all hired and brainwashed by PFI. Again, as a FYI since I expect you not to know, PFI is a banned political party in India.

Now if a filmmaker is choose to show this ground reality which was considered taboo for so many years, not sure why people are burning and have a problem with it.

 

[Champ_Pal]

West Bengal bans the movie from screening. Pathetic. Let people decide what the movie's worth is. If it is indeed false propaganda, people will not watch.

Funny how they did not ban PK which was insulting Hindu Gods.

 

[Rajdeep]

Mamata Banerjee announces ban on The Kerala Story in West Bengal

West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee on Monday announced a ban on Sudipto Sen's film The Kerala Story. The film landed in controversy since the release of its trailer. The trailer was criticised for earlier claiming that 32,000 girls from Kerala went missing and joined the terrorist group, ISIS, later.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/ente...gal-film-producer-reacts-101683546969420.html

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So after Tamil Nadu, West Bengal bans this film. Bravo

Where is Mahua Moitra who shouts on top of her voice about freedom of speech?

Will she have the guts to speak for her own party now?

Where are the posters here who keep quoting likes of her? All maintaining pedestrian distance from this thread

How can one live with such dishonest conscience

Imagine, India central govt ever goes into the hand of these goons like TMC, Mamata, M.K Stalin, Pinnayari Vijayan etc. The country will sink faster than Titanic.

Everyday Every Sensible Indians and the so called Sensible ones should get up in the morning and thank Shankar Bhagwan 10 times that Modi is ruling Delhi. The day he goes and this country goes into the hand of these thief's, it will be a total freefall.

Then don't blame me that Rajdeep didn't warn you all.

 

[RexRex]

West Bengal bans the movie from screening. Pathetic. Let people decide what the movie's worth is. If it is indeed false propaganda, people will not watch.

Funny how they did not ban PK which was insulting Hindu Gods.

The film is called 'Kerala Story'.

Credit to the maturity of Kerala that they haven't banned this film and the movie is running smoothly there in theatres.

 

[uppercut]

I said I would post the evidence soon. However it will detract from the issue which you are desperate to do. Answer or respond to my statements above then we can talk about Indian terror in Pakistan.

you expect me to take your word at face value when you claim that we are exporting terror as an un-official state policy since the 1950s without any credible evidence to back that up ? Well thats not how any serious meaningful discussion is conducted ( and it works both ways btw). Don't expect me to comment on topics unless you can come up with some credible evidence to back up your claims. And whats the issue in producing this evidence anyways ? Why are you being shy and protective about disclosing it ?

And when are you going to clarify on the ApS attack that you mentioned in one of your previous post ?

is it this one you are talking about?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre

So in short - if you want a serious meaningful discussion start talking based on credible facts. And I can guarantee you again that you will be quietly slipping away from this thread.

 

[Technics 1210]

Beautiful, West Bengal ban the movie just like Modi was banned from UK/USA; the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! )

 

[MenInG]

Beautiful, West Bengal ban the movie just like Modi was banned from UK/USA; the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! )

Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee has said the controversial film "The Kerala Story" will be banned in the state, arguing that it may create unrest. She has also alleged that the BJP is "funding a film on Bengal on the lines of Kashmir Files".

 

[Technics 1210]

Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee has said the controversial film "The Kerala Story" will be banned in the state, arguing that it may create unrest. She has also alleged that the BJP is "funding a film on Bengal on the lines of Kashmir Files".

Seems to me the CM is aware the movie is nothing but propaganda and lies. I mean even the supporters of the movie cannot muster a shred of any evidence; this thread included!

 

[Hitman]

West Bengal bans the movie from screening. Pathetic. Let people decide what the movie's worth is. If it is indeed false propaganda, people will not watch.

Funny how they did not ban PK which was insulting Hindu Gods.

The fimmakers of the movie are now threatening legal action.

 

[Justcrazy]

if 80% of the country is brainwashed and worse ... its being led by an illiterate PM how do you explain India's economic growth with large scale infrastructure growth and record forex reserves one of the lowest inflations in the world and many other economic data points ?

Brainwashed does not mean illiterate. There have been many serial killers who are educated respected members of the society.

I used the literacy taunt at an Individual NOT entire country. There are many educated and people of accumen in India , and they have done well .

 

[Justcrazy]

West Bengal bans the movie from screening. Pathetic. Let people decide what the movie's worth is. If it is indeed false propaganda, people will not watch.

Funny how they did not ban PK which was insulting Hindu Gods.

The movie PK was written , directed , produced , cinematograph even Art director were Hindus.

Can you show one Muslim in the production , direction , script being a Hindu?

Secondly can you tell me which scene in PK insulted hindu Gods?

 

[Theanonymousone]

The movie PK was written , directed , produced , cinematograph even Art director were Hindus.

Can you show one Muslim in the production , direction , script being a Hindu?

Secondly can you tell me which scene in PK insulted hindu Gods?

So, if the Kelara story had someone from Muslims, then its fine? I think this is more discriminatory

In PK there are multiple scenes where, they mocked Hindu gods and even showcased how illogical it is to fight in the name of God.

If the same thing is done on Islam faith, I am sure people would treat it as blasphemy and would be out on roads demanding “Sar tan se juda”

 

[cricketjoshila]

The fimmakers of the movie are now threatening legal action.

Two high courts refused to ban the movie. The supreme court refused to ban the movie. So the makers will likely get a verdict in their favour. On top the court may order the government to provide security as well.

 

[Hitman]

Two high courts refused to ban the movie. The supreme court refused to ban the movie. So the makers will likely get a verdict in their favour. On top the court may order the government to provide security as well.

I'm not surprised at Mamata Didi's decision at all. It was expected from her.

 

[uppercut]

Brainwashed does not mean illiterate. There have been many serial killers who are educated respected members of the society.

I used the literacy taunt at an Individual NOT entire country. There are many educated and people of accumen in India , and they have done well .

If an illiterate individual is leading the country then it implies that the 80% that have been brainwashed by him and his parent organization ( RSS as per your claim ) then it implies that the 80% are illiterate as well. So explain how the country is doing so well economically.

 

[the Great Khan]

you expect me to take your word at face value when you claim that we are exporting terror as an un-official state policy since the 1950s without any credible evidence to back that up ? Well thats not how any serious meaningful discussion is conducted ( and it works both ways btw). Don't expect me to comment on topics unless you can come up with some credible evidence to back up your claims. And whats the issue in producing this evidence anyways ? Why are you being shy and protective about disclosing it ?

And when are you going to clarify on the ApS attack that you mentioned in one of your previous post ?

is it this one you are talking about?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre

So in short - if you want a serious meaningful discussion start talking based on credible facts. And I can guarantee you again that you will be quietly slipping away from this thread.

I don't slip away from threads. You seem a fiesty one. A new addition to the RSS crew on here. But like your brethren you are well adept at diversion. Like I've said before many times to your compatriots.

This thread is about a hateful movie that your regime is promoting and RSS trolls on here are up in arms over coz it might rightly be banned.

Now I'm happy to discuss Indian sponsored terror in Pakistan but it will divert from the main issue. If you are unwilling to deal with my very straight forward assertions it means you are essentially in capable of addressing them.

Stop running away and deal with the issue. Oh and I will make whatever statement I want about your regime.

 

[uppercut]

I don't slip away from threads. You seem a fiesty one. A new addition to the RSS crew on here. But like your brethren you are well adept at diversion. Like I've said before many times to your compatriots.

This thread is about a hateful movie that your regime is promoting and RSS trolls on here are up in arms over coz it might rightly be banned.

Now I'm happy to discuss Indian sponsored terror in Pakistan but it will divert from the main issue. If you are unwilling to deal with my very straight forward assertions it means you are essentially in capable of addressing them.

Stop running away and deal with the issue. Oh and I will make whatever statement I want about your regime.

No diversion at all. You claimed something and I asked you for evidence to back up that claim. If Iam not allowed to do that thats fine... just be aware that I will use the same rule against you. Fair ?

And any reason why you are doggedly evading the question about ApS terror attack which you first bought up and accused India as being responsible for it ?

Pretty sure you will abandon this thread soon.

 

[the Great Khan]

Think you are posting a very generic but expected response on a wrong thread. What has Nazis and Holocaust got to do with Kerala? Presuming you are trying to compare Nazis with BJP, let me tell you BJP has never held more than 1 seat in Kerala. At least read the subject of the thread before responding

You don't know about ground realities unfortunately. Kerala had and still has mass religious conversion issues over the years. It is most rampant in Mallapuram region. Pretty sure you have not heard about Mallapuram but its a district in Kerala known as mini Kashmir of South India. It is also well documented that handful of Indians who fled and joined ISIS are from state of Kerala. They were all hired and brainwashed by PFI. Again, as a FYI since I expect you not to know, PFI is a banned political party in India.

Now if a filmmaker is choose to show this ground reality which was considered taboo for so many years, not sure why people are burning and have a problem with it.

On the contrary I am actually glad that your all finally addressing at least one issue when it comes to terrorism within and from your nation.

You see I find all of this quite amusing. I remember when Trump dropped a daisy cutter on ISIS and killed many Indian terrorists who were in Afghanistan many on here were in denial. Tbf some weren't but it was an issue that was brushed under the carpet.

Many of us have claimed for many years that India has a terrorism problem be it saffron or Muslim or communist. And yes we have also stated that India uses this problem for its benefit abroad. So I'm glad your finally addressing Indias terrorist problem.

However we all know this is a cynical ploy tontry and garner political support by attacking the Muslim community. Creating anger against it further adding to thencurrent fascist regimes tropes around love jihad and other regressive and racist issues.

Can you confirm the 32000 number because if this is true it should be raised jn international forums by neighbouring states who have faced the brunt of such terror. India should be asked to implement measures and do more to deal with its terrorism problem.

 

[the Great Khan]

No diversion at all. You claimed something and I asked you for evidence to back up that claim. If Iam not allowed to do that thats fine... just be aware that I will use the same rule against you. Fair ?

And any reason why you are doggedly evading the question about ApS terror attack which you first bought up and accused India as being responsible for it ?

Pretty sure you will abandon this thread soon.

No I asked you to answer or respond to my main point. You avoided doing that and picked upon a comment I made about Indian sponsored terror. You have then tried to divert the whole conversation by trying to move the conversation somewhere else. It's a classic rss online troll tactic.

With regards to the APS murder..why are you posting Wikipedia links to a national tragedy that is seared into our consciousness? Yes your nation that sponsored the TTP was responsible indirectly with that murder. Capiche? But alas you will probably now say " provide me proof provide me proof" like a typical sanghi troll..and our conversation will divert again and again...

Come back to the original assertions I made if you can remember them and then we can talk Indian fascist terror.

 

[Rajdeep]

On the contrary I am actually glad that your all finally addressing at least one issue when it comes to terrorism within and from your nation.

You see I find all of this quite amusing. I remember when Trump dropped a daisy cutter on ISIS and killed many Indian terrorists who were in Afghanistan many on here were in denial. Tbf some weren't but it was an issue that was brushed under the carpet.

Many of us have claimed for many years that India has a terrorism problem be it saffron or Muslim or communist. And yes we have also stated that India uses this problem for its benefit abroad. So I'm glad your finally addressing Indias terrorist problem.

However we all know this is a cynical ploy tontry and garner political support by attacking the Muslim community. Creating anger against it further adding to thencurrent fascist regimes tropes around love jihad and other regressive and racist issues.

Can you confirm the 32000 number because if this is true it should be raised jn international forums by neighbouring states who have faced the brunt of such terror. India should be asked to implement measures and do more to deal with its terrorism problem.

Aha, nice attempt bro. But you see, we NEVER consider them OURS and NEVER will. Its called Zor Zabardasti ke ours for name sake. That choice of OURS and YOURS was already made in 1947 but that will take this discussion to a different level all together. So lets leave it at that.

The point is, banning a film is not the answer to anything. It should be upon viewers what they want to watch and not to watch. I can't confirm 32000 number for sure and maybe some of it is made up but we live in a country where movies like Ek Tha Tiger & Pathaan where ISI was shown helping Raw in brotherly love is promoted but Kerala Story/Kashmir Files is banned.

So much love...wow

 

[uppercut]

No I asked you to answer or respond to my main point. You avoided doing that and picked upon a comment I made about Indian sponsored terror. You have then tried to divert the whole conversation by trying to move the conversation somewhere else. It's a classic rss online troll tactic.

With regards to the APS murder..why are you posting Wikipedia links to a national tragedy that is seared into our consciousness? Yes your nation that sponsored the TTP was responsible indirectly with that murder. Capiche? But alas you will probably now say " provide me proof provide me proof" like a typical sanghi troll..and our conversation will divert again and again...

Come back to the original assertions I made if you can remember them and then we can talk Indian fascist terror.

What??? Asking for evidence is now called trolling ? Go check with the Mods if you don't believe me. I am well within my rights to ask for credible evidence.

You think as a Pakistani your word will be the final word on these matters and Indians will have to take your words as absolute facts? Which world do you live in bhai ? BTW I dont ask you to take words from Indian sources as absolute facts either.

If you don't want the APS tragedy discussed why did you bring it up for discussion?

And here is my response to that: TTP is a militant outfit created by Pakistan. India has nothing to do with it. Now I can produce evidence to that but since you are allergic to an evidence based discussion you are now left with no choice but to take my words. Now what ?

 

[Technics 1210]

The response from RSS supporters reminds my of a quote from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly - "If you want to shoot, shoot, don't talk".

A fitting quote for RSS supporters who are failing to cite any evidence, because there isn't any, it is all bluff and bluster.

 

[RexRex]

Films banned by Mamata - Kerala Story.
Films banned by Modi - Fanaa, Parzania, BBC Documentary.

Both politicans are intolerant and dangerous to a free society but Modi is even worse.

 

[Kriketer]

This movie is absolute next level propaganda and trash by fanatic Hindus, and it has been exposed by factual stats as to what kind of nonsense this movie entails just to pollute Indian minds against Muslims further.

Per factual reports there were barely 3 such females cases from Kerala and movie propaganda and lie completely exaggerated this figure to 32,000. Famous Indian YouTube Dhruv Rathee has also exposed this lie big time with factual findings of world bodies monitoring ISIS recruitment from different regions so I suggest you check out his video.

This is just another regular Saffron Extremist trash which belongs in the bin, just like all other propaganda based movies with anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan rhetoric that Indian cinema keeps making, because under extremist party like BJP it sells. They are h*ll bent on spreading hate against Muslims and they will do anything to marginalise Muslims and pollute their masses minds. No surprise the usual saffron extremist sympathisers here are being representative and mouth piece of such trash

 

[Theanonymousone]

Don't believe the hype or evil lies, there is squat evidence supporting the preposterous claim that 32000 Muslim Indian women were recruited by ISIS. If anything Hindu women converted to Islam to avoid the perils of Sati.

Your second statement couldn't get anymore farcical. Sati practice is banned long before 1900 I think.

Women would only convert to Islam in India due to marrying muslim. Which is fair as I believe God is one and prioritizing your life over faith, I don't think even God would see it as a sin. As, God doesnt discriminate us based on our faiths I believe.

The only issue is how dogmatic one follows faith and becomes an extremist. I dont understand why Muslim women would support polygamy (husband permitted to have multiple wives) unless they are brainwashed. If one prioritizes themselves, I would say, women would first fight for their self respect in this day and age.

 

[gani999]

This movie is absolute next level propaganda and trash by fanatic Hindus, and it has been exposed by factual stats as to what kind of nonsense this movie entails just to pollute Indian minds against Muslims further.

Per factual reports there were barely 3 such females cases from Kerala and movie propaganda and lie completely exaggerated this figure to 32,000. Famous Indian YouTube Dhruv Rathee has also exposed this lie big time with factual findings of world bodies monitoring ISIS recruitment from different regions so I suggest you check out his video.

This is just another regular Saffron Extremist trash which belongs in the bin, just like all other propaganda based movies with anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan rhetoric that Indian cinema keeps making, because under extremist party like BJP it sells. They are h*ll bent on spreading hate against Muslims and they will do anything to marginalise Muslims and pollute their masses minds. No surprise the usual saffron extremist sympathisers here are being representative and mouth piece of such trash

The 32000 figure may be an exaggeration but this love Jihad nonsense is a real problem in Kerala. A former Chief Minister (a Communist and not from the BJP), has gone on record saying it is so, and leaders of the catholic church in Kerala have also complained about it. In fact, it was Kerala's Christian community that first protested against it, and not the Hindus. So it is not any saffron conspiracy to malign muslims.

Your post is the typical victim card whining that one gets to hear everytime anyone from the muslim community does something unpalatable and gets exposed.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This movie is absolute next level propaganda and trash by fanatic Hindus, and it has been exposed by factual stats as to what kind of nonsense this movie entails just to pollute Indian minds against Muslims further.

Per factual reports there were barely 3 such females cases from Kerala and movie propaganda and lie completely exaggerated this figure to 32,000. Famous Indian YouTube Dhruv Rathee has also exposed this lie big time with factual findings of world bodies monitoring ISIS recruitment from different regions so I suggest you check out his video.

This is just another regular Saffron Extremist trash which belongs in the bin, just like all other propaganda based movies with anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan rhetoric that Indian cinema keeps making, because under extremist party like BJP it sells. They are h*ll bent on spreading hate against Muslims and they will do anything to marginalise Muslims and pollute their masses minds. No surprise the usual saffron extremist sympathisers here are being representative and mouth piece of such trash

Dhruv Rathee )

 

[cricketjoshila]

The 32000 figure may be an exaggeration but this love Jihad nonsense is a real problem in Kerala. A former Chief Minister (a Communist and not from the BJP), has gone on record saying it is so, and leaders of the catholic church in Kerala have also complained about it. In fact, it was Kerala's Christian community that first protested against it, and not the Hindus. So it is not any saffron conspiracy to malign muslims.

Your post is the typical victim card whining that one gets to hear everytime anyone from the muslim community does something unpalatable and gets exposed.

ISIS recruitment from Kerala isn't a lie. Even a leftist media published that Kerala has become hot bed of ISIS activities.

Love Jihad issue was brought up by the bishops of catholic Church and they have been vocal about it. But ofcourse you will have the usual victim card whining about Hindus here.

 

[Technics 1210]

Your second statement couldn't get anymore farcical. Sati practice is banned long before 1900 I think.

Women would only convert to Islam in India due to marrying muslim. Which is fair as I believe God is one and prioritizing your life over faith, I don't think even God would see it as a sin. As, God doesnt discriminate us based on our faiths I believe.

The only issue is how dogmatic one follows faith and becomes an extremist. I dont understand why Muslim women would support polygamy (husband permitted to have multiple wives) unless they are brainwashed. If one prioritizes themselves, I would say, women would first fight for their self respect in this day and age.

Come back when you have evidence of ISIS recruiting 32000 Indian women (this was my point), if you cannot then all my words above are to the point.

 

[FreakCricket]

The liberal ones from Hindu and Christian communities in Kerala are the ones that fall pray to the ISIS Jihadis.

so the liberal ones convert into conservative fundamentalist ? doesn't add up

 

[Adijazz1706]

Unfortunate to see Adah Sharma in what seems to be another propaganda film, had great hopes for her after seeing her in 1920 way back

Doesn't seem to have worked in case of the karnataka elections tho

 

[Hitman]

The Chief Minister of my state

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today I went to see the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KeralaStory?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KeralaStory</a> along with my Cabinet colleagues. Everyone should see this film with their daughter, it is my humble request. <a href="https://t.co/5mzHkVHeDs">pic.twitter.com/5mzHkVHeDs</a></p>— Himanta Biswa Sarma (@himantabiswa) <a href="https://twitter.com/himantabiswa/status/1656601964644564993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[cricketjoshila]

The Chief Minister of my state

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today I went to see the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KeralaStory?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KeralaStory</a> along with my Cabinet colleagues. Everyone should see this film with their daughter, it is my humble request. <a href="https://t.co/5mzHkVHeDs">pic.twitter.com/5mzHkVHeDs</a></p>— Himanta Biswa Sarma (@himantabiswa) <a href="https://twitter.com/himantabiswa/status/1656601964644564993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Some day he will be India's home minister.

 

[Hitman]

Some day he will be India's home minister.

I hope so. We Assamese people have always, always loved and supported him his entire political career.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I hope so. We Assamese people have always, always loved and supported him his entire political career.

He is a brilliant administrator.

 

[Hitman]

He is a brilliant administrator.

In Assam, he is lovingly called Mama.

 

[MenInG]

Some day he will be India's home minister.

Seems to be afraid for his life given the bodyguards running next to him.

 

[Hitman]

I'm watching it tomorrow with my mother.

 

[Hitman]

He is a brilliant administrator.

Quite a few people from my extended family know him personally. They all say he is such a nice, honest and humble person in real life.

 

[Kriketer]

Not for the families of those Christians and Hindus who got converted and joined ISIS.

You mean for those total of "3" families in Kerala? I think what is more tragic are Hindu Extremists who kill over poor man selling beef, and there have been plenty of those and victims families suffering need some attention as well, care to give some as I can bet gaen rakshak Hindu aatanki in India have done way more terrorism of massacring innocent butchers than mere 3 girls from Kerala.

And what is the code name for selling beef in India, let me guess "Beef Jihad"?

The whole Love Jihad terminology is absolutely hilarious and desperate failed attempt of Hindu fanatics, it has turned out to be a mockery of the highest order as it failed to get much attention and now this movie is another attempt to seek some embarrassing attention with even Godi PM. praising the movie but it turned out this movie is a complete farce with absolute exaggeration of figures, from 3 to 32,000...some genius andhbhakt math

 

[cricketjoshila]

Seems to be afraid for his life given the bodyguards running next to him.

He is on terrorist hit list. Asssm CMs always are on hitlist. Himanta only has CRPF protection. His predecessors had NSG protection.

 

[MenInG]

The Supreme Court today sought to know the rationale behind 'The Kerala Story' movie being banned in West Bengal when it is running across the country without any problem.

"Why should West Bengal ban the movie? It is running in the rest of the country including in states having similar demographic composition and nothing has happened. This has nothing to do with the artistic value of the film," observed a bench of Chief Justice of India DY Chandrachud and Justice PS Narasimha, and issued notices to West Bengal and Tamil Nadu.

Though the movie has not been banned in Tamil Nadu, theatre owners have decided not to screen it over law and order concerns, a move that the makers claimed was a "de facto ban".

Senior advocate Abhishek Singhvi, appearing for the West Bengal government, cited intelligence inputs to claim there may be a law and order problem.

The court also sought to know about the security provided to theatres screening the movie in Tamil Nadu. It told the state's counsel that the government cannot look the other way when theatres are attacked.

The matter has been posted to next Wednesday.

The Sudipto Sen directorial sparked controversy with its claim that 32,000 women in Kerala were forced to convert to Islam and they joined ISIS, which the Opposition alleged was a false claim.

West Bengal was the first state to ban 'The Kerala Story'. In a notification on Monday, the government said it has prohibited the movie's screening to avoid "any incident of hatred or violence to maintain law and order in the state."

The makers of the movie had challenged the Bengal ban in the Supreme Court, citing they were losing money every day.

Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee had said the movie was aimed at defaming the state of Kerala and condemning its people. She also targeted the BJP for "creating communal politics".

'The Kerala Story', produced by Vipul Shah, depicts how a group of women were allegedly forced to convert to Islam and recruited by the ISIS terror group.

The movie stirred a political storm with the Opposition parties alleging that 32,000 women joining ISIS is an exaggerated figure.

While the movie faced obstacles in Opposition-ruled states, it received tax reliefs in BJP-ruled states like Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh.

NDTV

 

[pillionrider]

One of the rare occasions, bhakts will be forced to support the SC

Saw the trailer when it came out. Seems like another terrible propaganda film. But, it's propaganda, isn't a good enough reason to ban something.

Will give it one tiny bit of credit though - seems like a better-made film than the Kashmir Files garbage.

 

[Energy]

This is like Israel making a movie on Palestine rocket strikes that have recently killed a grand total of 0 Israelis. While 100+ Palestinians have been killed during the same time.

The world must see the atrocities of Palestinian militants like they must see how Kerala has now (after the movie) emerged as a hotbed of ISIS. While during ISIS reign it was all in a hiding and never in the main news.

After the movie we say India was the actual workforce behind ISIS supplying fighters and jihadis.

 

[Smbhayi]

The 32000 figure may be an exaggeration but this love Jihad nonsense is a real problem in Kerala. A former Chief Minister (a Communist and not from the BJP), has gone on record saying it is so, and leaders of the catholic church in Kerala have also complained about it. In fact, it was Kerala's Christian community that first protested against it, and not the Hindus. So it is not any saffron conspiracy to malign muslims.

Your post is the typical victim card whining that one gets to hear everytime anyone from the muslim community does something unpalatable and gets exposed.

Love jihad is nonsense.. what about Muslim girl marrying non-muslims? Which category in those marriage falls in? And VS Achuthanandan is known for such rubbish comments..

 

[gani999]

Love jihad is nonsense.. what about Muslim girl marrying non-muslims? Which category in those marriage falls in? And VS Achuthanandan is known for such rubbish comments..

Look, I have members of my family working with zilla parishads in Kerala who tell me that this is a problem. And they are all hard core Congressis and hate the BJP.

Not just Achutanandan, but even Christian leaders have been complaining about it. At least half a dozen Bishops have issued letters warning their subjects about it.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-love-and-narcotics-jihad/article36377244.ece

It can't all be nonsense and rubbish if it doesn't suit your narrative.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Who will make The Gujarat Story or Manipur Files in India?

 

[Rajdeep]

Who will make The Gujarat Story or Manipur Files in India?

Any independent director should...you can as well.

Gujarat Story that starts with Godhra train burning will be fascinating watch anyway, if the director choose to show it though.

 

[MP2011]

Who will make The Gujarat Story or Manipur Files in India?

They made Parzania on Gujarat pogrom which was promptly banned by feku.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is like Israel making a movie on Palestine rocket strikes that have recently killed a grand total of 0 Israelis. While 100+ Palestinians have been killed during the same time.

The world must see the atrocities of Palestinian militants like they must see how Kerala has now (after the movie) emerged as a hotbed of ISIS. While during ISIS reign it was all in a hiding and never in the main news.

After the movie we say India was the actual workforce behind ISIS supplying fighters and jihadis.

You are extremely wrong. ISIS influence and recruitment in Kerala was national and international news.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Love jihad is nonsense.. what about Muslim girl marrying non-muslims? Which category in those marriage falls in? And VS Achuthanandan is known for such rubbish comments..

Everybody is rubbish. VS Achutanand. Christian bishops all are wrong.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Parzania was never banned in Gujarat.

The liars and their propoganda is nauseating.

 

[uppercut]

Love jihad is nonsense.. what about Muslim girl marrying non-muslims? Which category in those marriage falls in? And VS Achuthanandan is known for such rubbish comments..

Since its a well known fact that Hinduism does not seek to actively proselytize it can be said with a high degree of certainty that the Marriage would not be for religious conversion purposes if the girl was Muslim and the boy a Hindu. This is how I would use logical deduction to answer your question. However the reverse is not true and this is an uncomfortable fact that most people don't like to discuss.

 

[Kriketer]

Just finished the movie.

It seems to be based on true events, we know that the ISIS recruitment of Hindu & Christian girls exist in Kerala that is a fact.

The majority of the Muslims will cry foul along with the pseudo secularists

Majority of the Hindus will say all of the movie is true.

Fact is it is somewhere in between. I will give it a 6/10...

and LOL @ the crowd that tried to get the movie banned, bunch of dumba*** now the movie has got unbelievable support thanks to this wonderful act of stupidity.

Ban a movie because it hurts Muslim sentiments = That is all fine.

Ban a movie because it hurts Hindu sentiments = How dare they, freedom of speech is in risk by the RSS, Fascist government, blah blah blah..

lol

3 actual cases are being presented as 32,000 and you are saying truth is in between? Lol that's some next level of blindly supporting the narrative and propaganda you like supporting, regardless how stupid it sounds. But with Modi fans nothing is really surprising as you folks like believing any sort of junk as long as it depicts that particular religion as bad. Every other bollywood movie now seems to be anti-Islam and/or anti-Pak and with that facist leading the country the hate has really deepend. It's no surprise why majority even the educated ones call absolute trash and lies presented as facts as "fall in the middle". You guys are hilarious