Now Peter Siddle is in doubt.....

[Junaids]

Australia has lost Mitchell Johnson and Ryan Harris to retirement in the last 16 months.

And their two quickest bowlers, Pat Cummins and James Pattinson, are out of Test contention following stress fractures.

And now Peter Siddle has got back pain, and is going to have scans in Hobart to see whether he has reopened his back stress fractures.

Meanwhile Mitchell Starc still has a large open wound in his leg from his recent deep laceration injury.

FAF du Plessis and Misbah must wonder what else could happen. The world's deepest pace attack is almost totally wiped out now.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Australia has lost Mitchell Johnson and Ryan Harris to retirement in the last 16 months.

And their two quickest bowlers, Pat Cummins and James Pattinson, are out of Test contention following stress fractures.

And now Peter Siddle has got back pain, and is going to have scans in Hobart to see whether he has reopened his back stress fractures.

Meanwhile Mitchell Starc still has a large open wound in his leg from his recent deep laceration injury.

FAF du Plessis and Misbah must wonder what else could happen. The world's deepest pace attack is almost totally wiped out now.

How unfortunate :/

I hope Mitchell Starc can play all 4 tests vs PAK.

 

[EliteCynical]

Please remind me again how many tests has Cummins played after debut in 2011? I cannot fathom how someone can get injured so often and CA is not able to do anything. Same with Patto.

Starc is another major worry. Did not look 100% to me. How on earth will Aus manage 20 wickets with Mitchell Marsh and Nathan Lyon. More importantly who would be their bowlers on India Tour. They need Starc 100% fit for any chance in India

 

[MMHS]

Might be a blessings in disguise also. Siddle wasn't bowling at his best to be be honest. May be now Aussie selectors will be forced to pick some new faces - Sayers, Bird, Mennie, Copeland, Worrall, Termain, Paris, Boland .... there should be a decent back-up.

 

[EliteCynical]

Might be a blessings in disguise also. Siddle wasn't bowling at his best to be be honest. May be now Aussie selectors will be forced to pick some new faces - Sayers, Bird, Mennie, Copeland, Worrall, Termain, Paris, Boland .... there should be a decent back-up.

Thanks for naming the back ups. I was struggling to recall some of them.

 

[MMHS]

Thanks for naming the back ups. I was struggling to recall some of them.

What AUS need is to find a tight Left-arm spinner for India. I am sure, even without Starc & Siddle (& Patinson, Cummins), Aussies will form a decent pace attack for PAK. If Holder can win a Test on UAE wickets, I don't think Aussies will struggle in that department. If the wickets are like old Aussie wickets, even managing Mitch Marsh will be a challenge.

But, they do need a SLAO spinner who can bowl 50 tight overs in IND. If they find that, then they'll be able to drop Marsh & play 6+4 combination with Smith bowling few overs of leggi.

 

[R1ddlR]

Might be a blessings in disguise also. Siddle wasn't bowling at his best to be be honest. May be now Aussie selectors will be forced to pick some new faces - Sayers, Bird, Mennie, Copeland, Worrall, Termain, Paris, Boland .... there should be a decent back-up.

Why no Patty Cummins? i think the only one there capable of playing solid test cricket is maybe Mennie or Bird.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Its definitely an issue for Australia right now. But to be honest they have to take some blame due to the workload of there players. Pakistan don't play much cricket which is why they are injury free, with this being said they have just played England and West Indies in the last couple of months with tours to NZ and Aus arriving. Australia really needs to manage there schedule well and I know Steve Smith was saying that scheduling is not to blame but actually it is. Australia have played so much cricket over the past couple of months that they need some time off and give there players a break. Its not right for there players to go from T20 world cup 2016 to dive straight into the IPL. The only real break they will get is after the 4th Test against India which concludes on March 29. So they need a break man BADLY

 

[MMHS]

Why no Patty Cummins? i think the only one there capable of playing solid test cricket is maybe Mennie or Bird.

I don't think he is fit enough. Not sure if he has started playing in Shield this year yet.

 

[Ellipsism]

Why no Patty Cummins? i think the only one there capable of playing solid test cricket is maybe Mennie or Bird.

Mennie is rubbish.

 

[R1ddlR]

Mennie is rubbish.

AUS ranks are rubbish at the moment, but have to give someone a crack.

is James Pattinson still terrible?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Australia have good enough options to replace Siddle. If Starc or Hazlewood were to get injured then they'd be in trouble.

 

[R1ddlR]

Australia have good enough options to replace Siddle. If Starc or Hazlewood were to get injured then they'd be in trouble.

Who are these good options? Just because he doesn't get many wickets doesn't mean he isn't as valuable as per-say Hazelwood or Starc - Siddle is an absolute workhorse whom can bowl over upon over.. i don't see any other AUS Bowlers lining up whom can do that.. Siddle is Hilfenhaus..

 

[Ellipsism]

AUS ranks are rubbish at the moment, but have to give someone a crack.

is James Pattinson still terrible?

James Pattinson is injured far too frequently, yet he isn't rubbish. The capacity to swing the ball at pace is all that is required to be a fruitful bowler; Pattinson offers just that.

What's the point in "giving somebody a crack" if their garbage.

 

[EliteCynical]

What AUS need is to find a tight Left-arm spinner for India. I am sure, even without Starc & Siddle (& Patinson, Cummins), Aussies will form a decent pace attack for PAK. If Holder can win a Test on UAE wickets, I don't think Aussies will struggle in that department. If the wickets are like old Aussie wickets, even managing Mitch Marsh will be a challenge.

But, they do need a SLAO spinner who can bowl 50 tight overs in IND. If they find that, then they'll be able to drop Marsh & play 6+4 combination with Smith bowling few overs of leggi.

Yeah I am sure O'Keefe is coming to India. Heard another left armer is in contention, forgot his name.

 

[Ellipsism]

Yeah I am sure O'Keefe is coming to India. Heard another left armer is in contention, forgot his name.

Agar?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Who are these good options? Just because he doesn't get many wickets doesn't mean he isn't as valuable as per-say Hazelwood or Starc - Siddle is an absolute workhorse whom can bowl over upon over.. i don't see any other AUS Bowlers lining up whom can do that.. Siddle is Hilfenhaus..

Gurinder Sandhu.

 

[Ellipsism]

Gurinder Sandhu.

Have you seen his bowling of late? Or am I missing something here?

 

[R1ddlR]

Gurinder Sandhu.

Bowled with him when i was younger playing rep's in Liverpool, Sydney - don't think he'll ever make it

He can never replace Siddle - he does work very hard, but i'd pick douggy bollinger over him.. Sandu had an average matador cup as well, i know thats LOI but dougy bowled very well.

 

[Ellipsism]

It's best to watch Pattinson bowl, instead of going off things you heard about...

 

[R1ddlR]

It's best to watch Pattinson bowl, instead of going off things you heard about...

pls let me know where i can watch him play - he's been out with injury since Feb.. i am going on the basis of what i saw before that.

 

[Ellipsism]

WHO ELSE HAS THE EXPERIENCE HE HAS. give me naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames.

Why does Australia need experience?

 

[R1ddlR]

Why does Australia need experience?

because as good as Starc and Hazelwood are they are still very young - Siddle is not only a workhorse but a mentor to the young quicks. cmon maaaaaaate.

 

[Ellipsism]

because as good as Starc and Hazelwood are they are still very young - Siddle is not only a workhorse but a mentor to the young quicks. cmon maaaaaaate.

Starc is 26 and has played a decent amount of games. He is already the leader of the attack in every form. He doesn't need anyone to "guide" him.

 

[R1ddlR]

Starc is 26 and has played a decent amount of games. He is already the leader of the attack in every form. He doesn't need anyone to "guide" him.

As a captain you turn to Siddle to hold down one end and pick up a wicket here and there, name a player than can do that in the current pickings?

 

[Convict]

Bird, Sayers or Behrendorff

 

[Convict]

As a captain you turn to Siddle to hold down one end and pick up a wicket here and there, name a player than can do that in the current pickings?

Siddle hasn't been good enough for a few years now.

Hazlewood and even Marsh can do that.

 

[Convict]

Gurinder Sandhu.

Sandhu is medicore in anything that isn't LO

 

[Ellipsism]

As a captain you turn to Siddle to hold down one end and pick up a wicket here and there, name a player than can do that in the current pickings?

Basically the names [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] mentioned bar Sayers.

 

[R1ddlR]

Bar Sayers it's Marsh and Hazelwood.. whom are both in the Squad already.. you could pass that responsibility onto them, but why was siddle picked in the first place then?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Sandhu is medicore in anything that isn't LO

Boland then.

 

[Convict]

Boland then.

Boland is also medicore

 

[Convict]

Bar Sayers it's Marsh and Hazelwood.. whom are both in the Squad already.. you could pass that responsibility onto them, but why was siddle picked in the first place then?

Because we like to pick three frontline quicks and he was rated third at the time.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Boland is also medicore

Bollinger?

 

[Convict]

Bollinger?

Bird, Behrendorff or Sayers

 

[Major]

Feel for james pattinson. Could make a name forhimself similar to dale steyn, but gets injured too much.

Australia should give him a personal physio who looks after his diet and all, and look at the factors behind his injuries

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Feel for james pattinson. Could make a name forhimself similar to dale steyn, but gets injured too much.

Australia should give him a personal physio who looks after his diet and all, and look at the factors behind his injuries

Australia isn't Pakistan.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Bird, Behrendorff or Sayers

The options I named are better.

 

[Convict]

Not picking up on the sarcasm?

It's hard to tell here sometimes.

I've seen many posters on Pakpassion genuinely suggest Aaron Finch or insert BBL player they saw once on tv.

 

[jeetu]

Peter Siddle Injury Update

Cricket Australia has provided the following update regarding Victorian paceman, Peter Siddle today:

Bupa Support Team Physiotherapist David Beakley said: "Peter Siddle had some lower back soreness at the conclusion of the first Test Match in Perth. Whilst we expect bowlers to be sore after Test matches, this was slightly worse than we expected and given that he was returning from a significant back injury, we organised some scans today."


"The scans demonstrated some low grade bone oedema around his old stress fracture that is likely to be a flare up of his previous lower back injury."

"We are hopeful that this will resolve relatively quickly, but have withdrawn him from the squad for the second Test Match in Hobart. We will monitor his recovery and have a better idea of when he will return to play in the next week or so."

The National Selection Panel has placed Tasmania’s Jackson Bird on stand-by as cover for the bowling unit.

 

[Suleiman]

Cricket Australia has provided the following update regarding Victorian paceman, Peter Siddle today:

Bupa Support Team Physiotherapist David Beakley said: "Peter Siddle had some lower back soreness at the conclusion of the first Test Match in Perth. Whilst we expect bowlers to be sore after Test matches, this was slightly worse than we expected and given that he was returning from a significant back injury, we organised some scans today."


"The scans demonstrated some low grade bone oedema around his old stress fracture that is likely to be a flare up of his previous lower back injury."

"We are hopeful that this will resolve relatively quickly, but have withdrawn him from the squad for the second Test Match in Hobart. We will monitor his recovery and have a better idea of when he will return to play in the next week or so."

The National Selection Panel has placed Tasmania’s Jackson Bird on stand-by as cover for the bowling unit.

I read Joe Mennie will be sent in as Siddle's replacement who is out for the rest of the tour.

Is Mennie any good [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION].

 

[Ellipsism]

I read Joe Mennie will be sent in as Siddle's replacement who is out for the rest of the tour.

Is Mennie any good [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION].

If a 130 KPH dibbly dobbly bowler fits your definition of good, then yes.

 

[Square Drive]

Coulter-Nile, Faulkner, Henriques?

EVEN if Starc somehow can't make it, an attack of Hazlewood, Marsh, Bird, Lyon is still capable of outdoing our boys if they make up their mind to get out.

Add in Starc and you still got a very good attack.

 

[Suleiman]

If a 130 KPH dibbly dobbly bowler fits your definition of good, then yes.

Looks like that's all that Australia have left when you take out Pattinson, Cummins and Starc.

What about Bird?

 

[Junaids]

Bird, Sayers or Behrendorff

Behrendorff with a Pink Ball under lights at Adelaide and the Gabba?

That could be a brilliant horses-for-courses selection. Sort of like cloning Bruce Reid!

 

[Convict]

Behrendorff with a Pink Ball under lights at Adelaide and the Gabba?

That could be a brilliant horses-for-courses selection. Sort of like cloning Bruce Reid!

Well the Dorff and O'Keefe are as close to Pink Ball specialists as you can get

 

[Convict]

I read Joe Mennie will be sent in as Siddle's replacement who is out for the rest of the tour.

Is Mennie any good [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION].

It is Mennie and Bird.

Mennie was already in the squad.

He is pretty much as [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] describes. Absolutely nothing inspiring in regards to international cricket. Good shield bowler and that is it.

Bird has to be selected ahead of him. Especially in Hobart.

If we're so desperate to pick a bowler for his batting we should just drop Lyon for O'Keefe anyway

 

[TheFlashPoint]

Siddle joins Australia's injury list, ruled out of second test

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricke...stralias-injury-list-ruled-out-of-second-test

 

[Major]

Australia isn't Pakistan.

what does that got to do with anything?

Diet also play a big part in injuries, Messi is a good example of this. After Barcelona gave him a personal physio or trainer, he was much better with his fitness

 

[Ellipsism]

It is Mennie and Bird.

Mennie was already in the squad.

He is pretty much as [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] describes. Absolutely nothing inspiring in regards to international cricket. Good shield bowler and that is it.

Bird has to be selected ahead of him. Especially in Hobart.

If we're so desperate to pick a bowler for his batting we should just drop Lyon for O'Keefe anyway

Is NCN still injured? Lehmann seems to rate him highly.

 

[R1ddlR]

Is NCN still injured? Lehmann seems to rate him highly.

Last i saw he was playing county cricket - i don't think he played much Matador Cup.. just read up, he has suffered a back injury and will be out for the whole summer.

 

[Junaids]

Well the Dorff and O'Keefe are as close to Pink Ball specialists as you can get

That's my point really. If the selectors are bold and a greentop is prepared for Adelaide, the Aussies could come back with a roar.

Hobart is quite likely to be a draw - removing Steyn weakens the Saffa bowling, and Philander and Rabada must be worn out.

But Australia has more Pink Ball experience than anyone else, and you and I both know that Behrendorrf and O'Keefe could be inspired selections for the back-to-back Pink Ball Tests at Adelaide and the Gabba, and could change the momentum of the summer.

The great thing about this summer is that all three Test teams are comparably flawed, so we might get great matches.

 

[Ellipsism]

Looks like that's all that Australia have left when you take out Pattinson, Cummins and Starc.

What about Bird?

Bird's a touch quicker and gets some bounce and swing off the wicket.

 

[Convict]

Is NCN still injured? Lehmann seems to rate him highly.

He is always injured