Obesity causes more cases of some cancers than smoking

[Gabbar Singh]

Obesity is now a bigger cause of bowel, kidney, liver and ovarian cancer than smoking.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Like smoking, obesity puts millions of adults at greater risk of cancer. We need the government to take action to improve our environment and help everyone live more healthily. Want to know what they can do? Find out more: <a href="https://t.co/sydwNrQL36">https://t.co/sydwNrQL36</a> <a href="https://t.co/kaQTwZRRwq">pic.twitter.com/kaQTwZRRwq</a></p>— Cancer Research UK (@CR_UK) <a href="https://twitter.com/CR_UK/status/1145633175953137665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">1 July 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Obesity rivals smoking as cause of cancer, UK charity warns <a href="https://t.co/p5coWgwyjF">https://t.co/p5coWgwyjF</a></p>— The Guardian (@guardian) <a href="https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1146286818993856512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3 July 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Obesity causes more cases of some cancers than cigarettes, <a href="https://twitter.com/CR_UK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CR_UK</a> has warned, as it revealed that obese people now outnumber smokers by two to one<a href="https://t.co/EPDvpVbLBH">https://t.co/EPDvpVbLBH</a> <a href="https://t.co/s9DQkcQm7V">pic.twitter.com/s9DQkcQm7V</a></p>— ITV News (@itvnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1146308667928666113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3 July 2019</a></blockquote>
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The stats above are for the UK however obesity is a growing problem worldwide.

 

[PakLFC]

We all know that smoking causes cancer. As for obesity processed food is what causes it more then anything else. We need to eat our greens and take regular exercise. It is so important to keep an eye on your weight.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

We all know that smoking causes cancer. As for obesity processed food is what causes it more then anything else. We need to eat our greens and take regular exercise. It is so important to keep an eye on your weight.

More than that it's the actual fat cells themselves which are believed to lead to certain types of cancer. Where the fat cells come from - if that's too much processed food or just too much normal food - is perhaps immaterial.

 

[PakLFC]

More than that it's the actual fat cells themselves which are believed to lead to certain types of cancer. Where the fat cells come from - if that's too much processed food or just too much normal food - is perhaps immaterial.

Cancer is often genetic as well. Another thing about this terrible disease is worry causes it as well. There are millions of obese people who are cancer free too.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not surprised.

Obesity has always been a bigger danger to me than smoking.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Unless you suffer from some sort of illness, there is no excuse to be obese.

If people want to be fat it's their choice but according to the government "The overall cost of obesity to wider society is estimated at £27 billion."

Time to start charing a fat tax. Unfair for others to foot the bill for people who like to eat and eat.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

More bad news for the overweight.

80% of English covid patients admitted to ICU are overweight (32%), obese (37%) or morbidly obese (11%).

 

[ElRaja]

i will pbly get a lot of flak for saying this, but its about time the nhs works on a model of prevention rather than cure.

everyone should be required to get a health MOT every year, and everyone should be eligible for healthcare regardless of their current status, however in the event patients are given specific guidance by doctors, example lose weight, reduce sugar, alcohol, tobaccro, etc, and the patients do not follow through on it provisions for medical support should be gradually reduced and be required to be subsidised by private contributions.

the nhs is one of the best institutions in this country, but its obviously creaking under the pressure of demand, and a lot of it is to be with obesity, bad diet, alcohol and drug related issues, because people have their feelings hurt being told they are fat or they are going to die.

 

[James]

Strongly agree with the notion that prevention is better than cure. Also feel that obesity is a complex problem, often poorly understood. Personal responsibility, motivation and discipline all play a huge role, but they do not tell the full story.

There need to be far better educational resources on diet and dietetics available from a young age. There also needs to be general education on the socio-economic and environmental particulars which can lead to a higher chance of obesity developing, so people understand the risk factors up front and can stay on top of their own personal situations.

In fact all of these preventable lifestyle diseases — obesity, addiction to nicotine, alcoholism, substance abuse — have a higher prevalence in certain socio-economic environments, as do self-harm and addictive personalities.

I came from a penniless white background, no father figure, single parent family, hand-me-down clothes, cheap shoes, no sense of personal hygiene, got bullied as “the poor kid”; bad grades, went to a mediocre high school, stayed at home depressed, no supervision (mum was always out working) — playing video games & watching TV a lot due to the bullying, scared of the outside world and and so did not exercise / play out and such, then [abracadabra....] found myself eating lots of junky nasty processed foods in my isolation as “comfort food”: this classic, common and stigmatised set of circumstances often produces fat children, who then have ingrained behaviours and unconscious traumas — they ultimately then become fat adults. (I have also struggled with drug abuse and smoking at different points in my lifetime, although not for a very long time now.)

The problem with current anti-obesity measures such as NHS advice on eating fruit & veg / drinking water / exercise, the sugar tax, and restricting junk food adverts is that they are token measures which have been implemented after this “event” of mass obesity in the US and UK has occurred, and as such these measures have not really been much use.

There has also been the totally ghastly, unhelpful and embarrassing emergence (I say this as an overweight person) of the “body positivity” movement, which has been created by morbidly obese and very fat people as a way of avoiding getting thin. Soon I worry that fatness will become a protected characteristic under the law, which would be wrong because it is within one’s control to manage and correct their weight. I understand where the body positivity movement has come from on a purely holistic level, and is it seriously rubbish being a fat person, but masking the problem with an emotional approach is not the solution to medically hazardous and often fatal levels of fatness.

Now there is even drastic talk of gastric bypass operations and other stomach / weight loss procedures being made available in the near future to people with underlying health conditions + BMI > 30, and all people with BMI > 35, which seems a bit over the top to me because these are quite expensive, dangerous and controversial surgeries to be handing out at will. (BMI of 35 or less can easily be reversed naturally as well, it’s when it gets into the 40s and 50s that people start to become too immobilised, depressed and disabled to move enough to lose the weight.)

Everyone who is / has been fat knows full well that it is much harder to lose the weight once the weight has gone on. Better to keep the weight off in the first place.

Losing weight after being fat is indeed such a positive experience — I have already reversed my creeping acid reflux, worrying sleep apnea and distressing hypoglycaemia issues simply by losing 2 stone — but it is a struggle. Every single bloody day, it is a struggle.

The bottom line is that too many people are fat, less people need to be getting fat, and thus education on this matter needs to be vastly improved. Starting with primary school age!

 

[Itachi]

I wonder what will happen to "fat acceptance" movement as a result of this?

 

[last_knight]

More bad news for the overweight.

80% of English covid patients admitted to ICU are overweight (32%), obese (37%) or morbidly obese (11%).

Thats what I observed while managing Covid patients and I have been saying it again and again in thread "Coronavirus in Pakistan" for last 3-4 months.

Obese people get more severe symptoms for longer periods and are more difficult to treat.

 

[Technics 1210]

Cancer is the process of entropy. Everything winds down.

There is no cure for cancer.

Some of us have faster rates of winding down, some us slower rates. (Darwinism fails to predict such rates).

The stats in this thread mean nothing. Alcohol and Smoking lead to more cancer related deaths than obesity. Who cares? We're all gonna die anyway.

Ask yourself this; if all these stats were truthful; in the name of science, explain how an under 5 can get cancer? Don't give me none of that 'life-style- nonsense, cos its irrelevant.

Cancer is the natural process of decay. Science might be able to fight it, but Science has no chance of deafeating it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Strongly agree with the notion that prevention is better than cure. Also feel that obesity is a complex problem, often poorly understood. Personal responsibility, motivation and discipline all play a huge role, but they do not tell the full story.

There need to be far better educational resources on diet and dietetics available from a young age. There also needs to be general education on the socio-economic and environmental particulars which can lead to a higher chance of obesity developing, so people understand the risk factors up front and can stay on top of their own personal situations.

In fact all of these preventable lifestyle diseases — obesity, addiction to nicotine, alcoholism, substance abuse — have a higher prevalence in certain socio-economic environments, as do self-harm and addictive personalities.

I came from a penniless white background, no father figure, single parent family, hand-me-down clothes, cheap shoes, no sense of personal hygiene, got bullied as “the poor kid”; bad grades, went to a mediocre high school, stayed at home depressed, no supervision (mum was always out working) — playing video games & watching TV a lot due to the bullying, scared of the outside world and and so did not exercise / play out and such, then [abracadabra....] found myself eating lots of junky nasty processed foods in my isolation as “comfort food”: this classic, common and stigmatised set of circumstances often produces fat children, who then have ingrained behaviours and unconscious traumas — they ultimately then become fat adults. (I have also struggled with drug abuse and smoking at different points in my lifetime, although not for a very long time now.)

The problem with current anti-obesity measures such as NHS advice on eating fruit & veg / drinking water / exercise, the sugar tax, and restricting junk food adverts is that they are token measures which have been implemented after this “event” of mass obesity in the US and UK has occurred, and as such these measures have not really been much use.

There has also been the totally ghastly, unhelpful and embarrassing emergence (I say this as an overweight person) of the “body positivity” movement, which has been created by morbidly obese and very fat people as a way of avoiding getting thin. Soon I worry that fatness will become a protected characteristic under the law, which would be wrong because it is within one’s control to manage and correct their weight. I understand where the body positivity movement has come from on a purely holistic level, and is it seriously rubbish being a fat person, but masking the problem with an emotional approach is not the solution to medically hazardous and often fatal levels of fatness.

Now there is even drastic talk of gastric bypass operations and other stomach / weight loss procedures being made available in the near future to people with underlying health conditions + BMI > 30, and all people with BMI > 35, which seems a bit over the top to me because these are quite expensive, dangerous and controversial surgeries to be handing out at will. (BMI of 35 or less can easily be reversed naturally as well, it’s when it gets into the 40s and 50s that people start to become too immobilised, depressed and disabled to move enough to lose the weight.)

Everyone who is / has been fat knows full well that it is much harder to lose the weight once the weight has gone on. Better to keep the weight off in the first place.

Losing weight after being fat is indeed such a positive experience — I have already reversed my creeping acid reflux, worrying sleep apnea and distressing hypoglycaemia issues simply by losing 2 stone — but it is a struggle. Every single bloody day, it is a struggle.

The bottom line is that too many people are fat, less people need to be getting fat, and thus education on this matter needs to be vastly improved. Starting with primary school age!

It's a tricky one. I remember when I was a teenager when I went to Pakistan you would get the older generations telling you to avoid eating street food because it had this or that unhealthy product in it. But that is part of what makes those sort of places come alive. I suppose the same would be true in England for cafes, restaurants, pubs and the rest.

Junk food is a massive part of life in the modern world, personally I love it although I'm not overweight. It will probably catch up with me in other ways though. I think there has to be a common sense approach more in line with a little of what you fancy now and again rather than making a lifestyle of it.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Obesity 'fuelling' Covid-19 deaths in Britain and globally, Lancet disease study finds <a href="https://t.co/cSAJ9oEeKP">https://t.co/cSAJ9oEeKP</a></p>— Telegraph Global Health Security (@TelGlobalHealth) <a href="https://twitter.com/TelGlobalHealth/status/1317367386601914368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thousands of coronavirus deaths could have been avoided if ministers had done more to tackle the obesity crisis, former Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies told G&T.<a href="https://t.co/iBiTggalBo">https://t.co/iBiTggalBo</a></p>— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) <a href="https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1327971993120108546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ElRaja]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thousands of coronavirus deaths could have been avoided if ministers had done more to tackle the obesity crisis, former Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies told G&T.<a href="https://t.co/iBiTggalBo">https://t.co/iBiTggalBo</a></p>— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) <a href="https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1327971993120108546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

bt body positive movement says u cant hurt ppls feelings by telling them they're fat....

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How obesity could create problems for a COVID vaccine. Some evidence in influenza that people who are obese don't develop as strong immunity from vaccines<a href="https://t.co/QLzqoF52DT">https://t.co/QLzqoF52DT</a></p>— Liam Mannix (@liammannix) <a href="https://twitter.com/liammannix/status/1319053593870127104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MenInG]

More than half the world's population will be classed as obese or overweight by 2035 if action is not taken, the World Obesity Federation warns.

More than four billion people will be affected, with rates rising fastest among children, its report says.

Low or middle-income countries in Africa and Asia are expected to see the greatest rises.

The report predicts the cost of obesity will amount to more than $4tn (£3.3tn) annually by 2035.

The president of the federation, Prof Louise Baur, described the report's findings as a clear warning to countries to act now or risk repercussions in the future.

The report in particular highlights the rising rates of obesity among children and teenagers, with rates expected to double from 2020 levels among both boys and girls.

Prof Baur said the trend was "particularly worrying", adding that "governments and policymakers around the world need to do all they can to avoid passing health, social, and economic costs on to the younger generation" by assessing "the systems and root factors" that contribute to obesity.

The effects of obesity's prevalence on lower-income countries is also highlighted in the report. Nine of the 10 countries with the greatest expected increases in obesity globally are low or lower-middle income states in Africa and Asia.

Reasons include trends in dietary preferences towards more highly processed foods, greater levels of sedentary behaviour, weaker policies to control food supply and marketing, and less well-resourced healthcare services to assist in weight management and health education.

Lower-income countries are "often the least able to respond to obesity and its consequences".

The findings estimate that rises in obesity rates around the world will have a significant impact on the global economy, equating to 3% of global Gross Domestic Product.

The report emphasises that its acknowledgement of the economic impact of obesity "is in no way a reflection of blame on people living with obesity".

The data published in the report will be presented to the UN on Monday.

Obese is a medical term used to describe a person with a high excess of body fat.

The report uses body mass index (BMI) to make its assessments. BMI is calculated by dividing an adult's weight by the square of their height.

BBC

 

[sweep_shot]

More than half the world's population will be classed as obese or overweight by 2035 if action is not taken, the World Obesity Federation warns.

More than four billion people will be affected, with rates rising fastest among children, its report says.

Low or middle-income countries in Africa and Asia are expected to see the greatest rises.

The report predicts the cost of obesity will amount to more than $4tn (£3.3tn) annually by 2035.

The president of the federation, Prof Louise Baur, described the report's findings as a clear warning to countries to act now or risk repercussions in the future.

The report in particular highlights the rising rates of obesity among children and teenagers, with rates expected to double from 2020 levels among both boys and girls.

Prof Baur said the trend was "particularly worrying", adding that "governments and policymakers around the world need to do all they can to avoid passing health, social, and economic costs on to the younger generation" by assessing "the systems and root factors" that contribute to obesity.

The effects of obesity's prevalence on lower-income countries is also highlighted in the report. Nine of the 10 countries with the greatest expected increases in obesity globally are low or lower-middle income states in Africa and Asia.

Reasons include trends in dietary preferences towards more highly processed foods, greater levels of sedentary behaviour, weaker policies to control food supply and marketing, and less well-resourced healthcare services to assist in weight management and health education.

Lower-income countries are "often the least able to respond to obesity and its consequences".

The findings estimate that rises in obesity rates around the world will have a significant impact on the global economy, equating to 3% of global Gross Domestic Product.

The report emphasises that its acknowledgement of the economic impact of obesity "is in no way a reflection of blame on people living with obesity".

The data published in the report will be presented to the UN on Monday.

Obese is a medical term used to describe a person with a high excess of body fat.

The report uses body mass index (BMI) to make its assessments. BMI is calculated by dividing an adult's weight by the square of their height.

BBC

Concerning signs.

People have embraced gluttony and they are now paying the price.

Our bodies weren't designed to eat like this.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Concerning signs.

People have embraced gluttony and they are now paying the price.

Our bodies weren't designed to eat like this.

Not just gluttony. Its gluttony with not adequate exercise. Gluttony was the evolutionary adaptation to famines as people have to build up fat to prepare for leaner times. However, science has ensured that famines don't happen in developing and developed nations.

 

[daytrader]

Aspartame - is it a possible cause of cancer?

he sweetener aspartame, which is found in a variety of foods and fizzy drinks, is set to be officially classified as "possibly carcinogenic" to humans, reports claim.

The label frequently causes confusion as it gives no sense of whether the potential risk is big or miniscule.

Other "possibly carcinogenic" substances include aloe vera, diesel and pickled Asian vegetables.

The BBC understands the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) will make an announcement on 14 July.

What has aspartame in it?
Aspartame is 200 times sweeter than sugar, so it gives the taste without the calories.

You will find it on the ingredients list of many diet or sugar-free foods including diet drinks, chewing gums and some yoghurts. High profile drinks containing aspartame include Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Pepsi Max, and 7 Up Free, but the sweetener is in around 6,000 food products.

The sweetener has been used for decades and approved by food safety bodies, but there has been a swirl of controversy around the ingredient.

IARC, the cancer research arm of the World Health Organization, has been reviewing about 1,300 studies on aspartame and cancer.

The Reuters news agency says it has spoken to sources close to the process, and aspartame will be classified "possibly carcinogenic" - but what does the classification actually mean?

The BBC understands official announcements will be made by IARC and a separate expert committee on food additives - alongside a publication in the Lancet Oncology medical journal on 14 July.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-66057216

 

[Farhan The Man]

bt body positive movement says u cant hurt ppls feelings by telling them they're fat....

The only positive body is a lean one.

Obesity should be criminalized. It's self-harm. Akin to suicide.

Fat people need to be told. The truth.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The only positive body is a lean one.

Obesity should be criminalized. It's self-harm. Akin to suicide.

Fat people need to be told. The truth.

Some are fat due to underlying hormonal issues. Its hard for them to keep their weight in check unless they take medication for it.
Some are fat due to overeating. The foods that taste so good are totally trash. Ladened with sugar and unhealthy seed/palm oil. Government has to ensure standards must be maintained to eliminate certain stuff should not be part of the food that is sold at the markets.
Government cannot interfere in what people like to eat. Proper warning labels must be put on the food. If people choose to ignore those labels, its on them.

 

[sweep_shot]

In today's age, a person shouldn't be obese. Just hit the gym or do workout at home. Don't eat too much. Do intermittent fasting.

Simple formula.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Some are fat due to underlying hormonal issues. Its hard for them to keep their weight in check unless they take medication for it.
Some are fat due to overeating. The foods that taste so good are totally trash. Ladened with sugar and unhealthy seed/palm oil. Government has to ensure standards must be maintained to eliminate certain stuff should not be part of the food that is sold at the markets.
Government cannot interfere in what people like to eat. Proper warning labels must be put on the food. If people choose to ignore those labels, its on them.

It's not the government's job. That I agree.

Hormonal issues are a cop out. Look at pictures from 100 years ago, no fat people.

You become fat because you choose to. And that is self-harm. This cohort should be looked down upon with disdain.

 

[Kianig89]

Obesity is a big issue than it seems

Obese person has digestion issues or may develop

Has blood pressure issues or may develop

Remains lethargic mostly

Lack of options for dressing and so and so o