"On what grounds has the PCB barred Danish Kaneria from playing cricket?" : Abdul Qadir

[#GreenRoars]

Pakistan's legspin great Abdul Qadir slammed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) for it's failure to present incriminating evidence in the Danish Kaneria spot-fixing case and termed the bowler's life ban 'baffling'.

A disciplinary panel of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) banned Kaneria for life in 2012 for 'luring' Essex teammate Mervyn Westfield in to conceding a set number of runs in exchange for money during a 2009 county match.

During the British proceedings against Kaneria, it was alleged that an Indian bookmaker named Anu Bhatt paid 6000 pounds to Westfield in a deal brokered by the Pakistan leg-spinner.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), possibly mindful of its reputation in the wake of a series of fixing scandals, also upheld the ECB's ban and urged Kaneria to end his legal battle and confess.

“England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) had banned Kaneria and not the ICC. Then on what grounds has the PCB barred him from playing cricket? He earns for a living from the game,” Qadir said in an interview with APP.

“Danish did not commit any crime like Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Asif and Salman Butt then why he is barred from playing cricket?” Qadir added while urging the PCB to make evidence in the Kaneria case public.

He bashed PCB for allowing Amir to play in the Bangladesh Premier League (BPL) before paving the way for his return to the national team while restricting Asif and Butt, who have also served their spot-fixing bans, from being eligible for selection.

“You cannot have two sets of rules for players when it comes to allowing them back into the national squad,” he said.

Qadir, who mastered wrist spin while it was a dying art during 1970s and 80s, said Kaneria should appeal against his ban to get justice from the board or through the court.

“PCB's treatment of Danish has made him feel like he is not a Pakistani; like he is from other country and religion,” said the 60-year-old.

“It’s Kaneria’s right to see the evidence which has led to his ban and the PCB should reopen his case.”

Kaneria, 35, has hunted down 261 batsmen in his 61 Test outings.

Source : http://www.dawn.com/news/1235950/abdul-qadir-slams-pcb-over-kaneria-ban

 

[HitWicket]

Clueless from Qadir it seems. A ban by one member board must be enforced by other member boards.

 

[Sandeep]

At least let him play first class cricket..

 

[Gabbar Singh]

At least let him play first class cricket..

Why? So that he can rope in more youngsters into the world of match fixing?

Kaneria has never even admitted his guilt or said sorry. This despite numerous different tribunals looking at the evidence and finding him guilty.

 

[AZulfi]

A fair comment by Qadir. Rules should be the same for everyone

 

[HitWicket]

A fair comment by Qadir. Rules should be the same for everyone

And where haven't they been, Kaneria wasn't banned for fixing. He was banned for being the liaison between players and the bookies and therefore dragging other players into match fixing.

 

[Asadullah]

Kaneria's been banned by a board which is much more professional than PCB can ever dream of

Don't see the ban going anywhere

 

[Gabbar Singh]

The PCB warned Kaneria that Anu Bhatt was a fixer and illegal bookie yet Kaneria continued to socialise with Bhatt in clubs, bars and restaurants and kept telephone contact with him. Yet he still has the audacity to claim he's an innocent man.

Kaneria, who had been warned about Bhatt's alleged connections to illegal betting, admitted putting the two in contact but claimed he had been trying to distance himself from Bhatt.

However, phone records showed extensive contact between Kaneria and Bhatt in the days leading up to the September 2009 Pro40 match that Westfield accepted money to underperform in. Kaneria's defence that Westfield was not a credible witness, due to his previous conduct, was also rejected.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/569411.html

 

[Adil_94]

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

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[PCP_1]

On the cricket grounds.

 

[Moh@n]

The PCB warned Kaneria that Anu Bhatt was a fixer and illegal bookie yet Kaneria continued to socialise with Bhatt in clubs, bars and restaurants and kept telephone contact with him. Yet he still has the audacity to claim he's an innocent man.



http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/569411.html

Apparently according to Rashid Latif, this Anu Bhatt the fixer happens to have stayed in Pakistan as a guest of the PCB during the visits by India and England in 2005 and 2006. Oops!

http://www.dawn.com/news/1040331

 

[Moh@n]

Why? So that he can rope in more youngsters into the world of match fixing?

Kaneria has never even admitted his guilt or said sorry. This despite numerous different tribunals looking at the evidence and finding him guilty.

Why would he admit it when he thinks he is not guilty? What is the evidence against him apart from Westfield's testimony?

Do you issue a conviction based on a mere statement given in court by someone?

Kaneria was not even allowed to put forward his version.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

LoL, Love Qadir for his funny comments. He is always so out of touch with Reality.
He resigned as the Chief Selector during T20 world cup in 2009 because he was not happy with team selection. But Pakistan ended up winning the tournament. He once captained Pakistan odi side, but came to Bat at #4 ahead of regular batsmen. He has a good heart, but he is Hilarious...

 

[Usman]

Why would he admit it when he thinks he is not guilty? What is the evidence against him apart from Westfield's testimony?

Do you issue a conviction based on a mere statement given in court by someone?

Kaneria was not even allowed to put forward his version.

You do not know the full details of the evidence presented before the tribunal yet you are quick to jump to the conclusion that Kaneria wasn't allowed to put his case forward, that he's been convicted on the basis of 1 statement and that he's innocent. I am afraid it's just not as simple as that. The tribunal would not have banned him unless there was sufficient evidence against him and I'm afraid you and Kaneria have to accept that. This isn't the PCB we're talking about, but the ECB where Kaneria would have had a fair trial.

There were a LOT of people protesting the innocence of Amir, Asif and Butt before Amir admitted his guilt. The same is happening with people like you and Kaneria.

 

[ayemgilani86]

i think the only reason latif has been supporting him vocally and financially as well because he feels that amir asif and butt were banned for 5 years while kaneria was given a lifetime ban, i dont remember the exact details of the case but when i read the report abt the evidence against him i did feel that there was a lot of evidence against him

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Why would he admit it when he thinks he is not guilty? What is the evidence against him apart from Westfield's testimony?

Do you issue a conviction based on a mere statement given in court by someone?

Kaneria was not even allowed to put forward his version.

First of all it wasn't a criminal court so the case against him needed to be proven on a balance of probability and not beyond reasonable doubt.

We have Westfield's testimony, we have telephone records, we have an experienced international cricketer ignoring a warning by his employers (the PCB) and continuing to associate himself with a known illegal bookie and fixer.

And of course Kaneria was able to put forward his version of events - that's how the ECB tribunal works.

Finally after being found guilty by the original tribunal Kaneria appeals not once but twice and both these goups of people (at the appeals hearing) saw the evidence and upheld the original verdict.

Kaneria's whole defence at this moment seems to be 'oh look Essex police did not charge me' - well boo hoo the level of proof for criminal cases is different to civil ones and when making this decision the police and courts have to decide if it's in the interests of the country to put such a person on trial - why waste the money when you can just deport him.

 

[Moh@n]

You do not know the full details of the evidence presented before the tribunal yet you are quick to jump to the conclusion that Kaneria wasn't allowed to put his case forward, that he's been convicted on the basis of 1 statement and that he's innocent. I am afraid it's just not as simple as that. The tribunal would not have banned him unless there was sufficient evidence against him and I'm afraid you and Kaneria have to accept that. This isn't the PCB we're talking about, but the ECB where Kaneria would have had a fair trial.

There were a LOT of people protesting the innocence of Amir, Asif and Butt before Amir admitted his guilt. The same is happening with people like you and Kaneria.

First of all it wasn't a criminal court so the case against him needed to be proven on a balance of probability and not beyond reasonable doubt.

We have Westfield's testimony, we have telephone records, we have an experienced international cricketer ignoring a warning by his employers (the PCB) and continuing to associate himself with a known illegal bookie and fixer.

And of course Kaneria was able to put forward his version of events - that's how the ECB tribunal works.

Finally after being found guilty by the original tribunal Kaneria appeals not once but twice and both these goups of people (at the appeals hearing) saw the evidence and upheld the original verdict.

Kaneria's whole defence at this moment seems to be 'oh look Essex police did not charge me' - well boo hoo the level of proof for criminal cases is different to civil ones and when making this decision the police and courts have to decide if it's in the interests of the country to put such a person on trial - why waste the money when you can just deport him.

If there was evidence against him, why did the PCB not make them public before giving him a life ban?

Also, how do you explain this so called Indian bookie Anu Bhatt staying in Pakistan as PCB's guest in 2005-06?

 

[msb314]

Bump!

Now Abdul Qadir knows his answer

 

[PakLFC]

Qadir is just another bitter former Pak Cricketer. We're full of them!

 

[Savak]

Kaneria has embarrassed and humiliated so many people like Rashid Latif, Abdul Qadir, the minority senator who stood up for him.

 

[Indiafan]

Kaneria has embarrassed and humiliated so many people like Rashid Latif, Abdul Qadir, the minority senator who stood up for him.

How is that? Being guilty has never stopped players making comeback into the Pak team before. The point they were making is that why does someone like Kaneria have no support while Amir had despite serving time in jail. I know the answer, Amir was very young and a very bright talent. But to somehow claim that Kaneria admitting guilt somehow invalidates the claim he didn't get support is being disingenuous when you know what point is being discussed

 

[Savak]

How is that? Being guilty has never stopped players making comeback into the Pak team before. The point they were making is that why does someone like Kaneria have no support while Amir had despite serving time in jail. I know the answer, Amir was very young and a very bright talent. But to somehow claim that Kaneria admitting guilt somehow invalidates the claim he didn't get support is being disingenuous when you know what point is being discussed

To be fair the likes of Asif and Butt did not the same support as Amir because they just kept crying conspiracy and denying charges for 5 plus long years and only admitted it when it became much more favorable for them to admit it.

Kaneria denied the charges for almost a decade. Amir admitted his involvement after one year in comparison and compared to the trio that was looked upon more favorably.