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"One decision we have to make about a player - Others are sealed (World Cup squad)" : Mickey Arthur

Rizwan has shown that he is a decent bat, but is also useful player to have around in case Safaraz has his 'specialist captain' form again. Pakistan are guaranteed 9 games and cannot afford a passenger so I wouldn't be against having him in the squad. Safaraz is no banker with the bat.
 
Rizwan shouldn't be selected for the simple reason he is surplus to requirements. He is a dud batting below four and we have better options for those positions.

Openers:

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Abid Ali

Middle order batsmen:

4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Mohammad Hafeez
7. Sarfraz Ahmed (C/WK)
8. Asif Ali

All- Rounders:

9. Faheem Ashraf
10. Imad Wasim
11. Shadab Khan

Fast Bowlers:

12. Shaheen Afridi
13. Hasan Ali
14. Hasanain
15. UKS/Amir
 
Let's see what happens but after the Aussie series we can go with this squad:

I'm still in favor of playing Babar Azam as an opener

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail/ 12) Abid Ali
4) Muhammad Hafeez
5) Sarfaraz Ahmed (C) (WK)
6) Umar Akmal or Asif Ali (Both of them have been disappointing so a tough decision)
7) Imad Wasim
8) Shadab Khan
9) Muhammad Amir
10) Hasan Ali
11) Shaheen Shah Afridi

13) Faheem Ashraf
14) Umer Khan
15) Muhammad Rizwan
 
Imam will not only make it to the squad, he will most likely play all the matches.. he is one protective foil around whom people like Fakhar, babar and Hafeez etc are supposed to bat.. so I like your squad but it’s not realistic given how coach and captain are thinking.
 
Even if Yasir is selected he should hhave conscience to decline the offer considering his performance.
 
First comment is interesting but a little vague as to timeframe.

Second comment suggests Haris is in the XI. [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=70365]Ahson8[/MENTION]

Shukr hai aqal aa gaye inhain.

But you never know it hurts the izzat of Malik and Hafeez that Haris is playing over them so they might make their way over him in the playing x1.
 
Their immediate need is a power hitter in the lower order. They have no choice but Asif Ali.
 
I am still counting on faheem to come good.. he is a beast of a hitter but just hasn’t done it at the international level yet.
 
Mohammad Hafeez is already in the WC Squad.

Not if he's injured he's not. If he's fit I imagine that he'll take Asif Ali's spot because for some strange reason, Asif Ali has fallen out of favour with Inzi and Mickey. He wasn't even selected for this 'B' eleven against Aus. And lack of power hitting is what cost us several games in this series. Even if Hafeez isn't fit, I fully expect some passenger to be selected in place of Asif Ali, like Shan Masood.

Faheem at 7? You should know better than that.

Ok switch him with Shadab so it's Shadab at 7 and Faheem at 8. Do you now agree with my team/squad selection?
 
Not if he's injured he's not. If he's fit I imagine that he'll take Asif Ali's spot because for some strange reason, Asif Ali has fallen out of favour with Inzi and Mickey. He wasn't even selected for this 'B' eleven against Aus. And lack of power hitting is what cost us several games in this series. Even if Hafeez isn't fit, I fully expect some passenger to be selected in place of Asif Ali, like Shan Masood.



Ok switch him with Shadab so it's Shadab at 7 and Faheem at 8. Do you now agree with my team/squad selection?

Or may be Asif Ali is spending time with his daughter?
 
For a team which has been losing consistently in the format where majority of the players have performing poorly over the past few months, it is amazing that the coach feels that they are sure about their squad. I feel there were some good performances in the Australia series and I though they will have some headaches but seems they don't.
 
Ok switch him with Shadab so it's Shadab at 7 and Faheem at 8. Do you now agree with my team/squad selection?

Why would you want to make an already weak batting line up weaker?

Shadab and Faheem are not all rounders.

They may be able to score in Test cricket but it doesn't mean the same for ODI cricket.

Yasir Shah has a higher batting average than Faheem Ashraf :facepalm:


Imad at 7, Shadab at 8, Hasan at 9, Amir at 10.

Shadab, Hasan and Amir all can hold a bat and can whack a few if needed.
 
Haris Sohail (PAK) 5 5 1 291 130 72.75 339 85.84
Mohammad Rizwan (PAK) 5 4 0 231 115 57.75 244 94.67
Umar Akmal (PAK) 5 5 0 150 48 30 170 89.23
Imad Wasim (PAK) 5 5 3 141 50* 70.5 115 122.6
Abid Ali (PAK) 2 2 0 112 112 56 120 93.33


Imam, Shan, Malik not to be found in top 4 batsmen in the series..

Batting at no. 6 average of 30 and strike rate of 90 is reasonable.. We have to raise above our biases.. Asif or Akmal are must for modern cricket...
 
The issues actually haven't been with Pakistani batting - many have performed in recent times . Only a finisher is missing in this lineup. It's the bowling that's the problem. Imam , Fakhar, Rizwan, Haris have all been amongst the runs now in the last two series and Imad has contributed with the bat and is the fifth bowler. Shan hasn't shown enough and it's too late to include Abid. Malik, Hafeez and Sarfraz need to make way ideally as their replacements are better - Haris > Hafeez and Rizwan > Sarfraz . My Pakistan squad based on current form would be

1. Imam
2.Fakhar
3. Haris
4. Rizwan
5. Babar
6. Imad
7. Sarfraz
8. Shan
9. Hafeez
10. Shadab
11. Shinwari
12. Shaheen
13. Hasan
14. Faheem
15. Hasnain/Aamir

This is not ideal but it's the best Pak fans can hope for. Shan and Abid should play England series and whoever performs better should get that backup opener spot. Hafeez ahead of malik. Ideally both should be out but I guess it's too late for that. Too late to replace shadab as well.
 
This is not what I want to happen but what I think will be the team against WI

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Imad
Shadab
Faheem
Hasan
Shaheen

On the bench:

Asif
Rizwan
Shinwari
Malik
 
"The positives I take from the series is that we hit 5 hundreds and we found a batsman and one young quick bowler.

This indicates Hasnain and Abid might be in.
 
"The positives I take from the series is that we hit 5 hundreds and we found a batsman and one young quick bowler.

This indicates Hasnain and Abid might be in.

Not sure it's Abid. I think it's got to do with playing Rizwan as a pure batter in the world cup.
 
I think Amir and Shinwari are in for the two fast bowling spots.

The spot Arthur is talking about is between Shan and Rizwan. Maybe, Yasir is also in the mix for that spot. With some 15 odd games to play, it's the bowlers that are most vulnerable to fitness issues and they are probably debating whether to take a back up spinner or not.
 
(No finisher) "That's one thing we aren't blessed with. I've got my eye on 3 players we need to work on to perform that role. The England tour will be like a training camp for us and we're going to be working on these things in that time, we've got to get those 3 guys up to speed"

So he has 3 players in mind that'll play as finisher at no. 6 I guess. 2 of them must be Umer Akmal and Asif Ali but who's the 3rd? Imad Wasim? Because I don't think Micky can think of playing Hafeez at no. 6 (Which will solve this problem)
 
01. Fakhar
02. Imam
03. Babar
04. Haris
05. Sarfraz (c) (wk)
06. Hafeez
07. Imad
08. Shadab
09. Hasan
10. Amir
11. Shaheen

12. Junaid
13. Abid
14. Faheem
15. Malik / Asif / Umer
 
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Pakistan coach Mickey Arthur has declared Australia will be a threat at the World Cup, having watched them steamroll his team 5-0 in an ODI series.

Arthur, who coached Australia from 2011 until 2013, was thoroughly impressed with how clinical some of his former charges were during the past fortnight.

"I definitely think they are (capable of winning the World Cup). They're travelling really well," Arthur said.

"All the final jigsaw parts are coming together nicely.

"Australia look a very, very good side They will be a threat at the World Cup ... I think there's up to seven teams that can win the World Cup."

Pakistan rested six stars, including captain Sarfraz Ahmed, from the entire series but Australia's XI is also likely to look different at the 50-over tournament.

Pat Cummins was wrapped in cotton wool for four of five games against Pakistan, while Steve Smith, David Warner, Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood all remain confident about their chances of taking part in Australia's World Cup defence.

"You get Warner and Smith back, you put Starc and Cummins back into that line-up. It's pretty formidable," Arthur said.

Usman Khawaja, one of four players who Arthur decided to send home from a 2013 tour of India during the 'homeworkgate' saga, top-scored with 98 on Sunday as he continued an impressive run of form.

"He always was a class player," Arthur said.

"He seems to have taken this game to the next level. He's among the top batsmen in the world cricket now.

"That's not surprising. Because he already had that ability."

Khawaja, who was badly affected by dehydration towards the end of his innings, also earned plenty of praise from opening partner Aaron Finch.

"He hit everything in the middle ... that was a brilliant innings," Finch said.

"I was disappointed he didn't get a hundred because he really did deserve it with the series that he's had."

Arthur, who has copped stinging criticism from pace icon Shoaib Akhtar and other pundits in his homeland during the past week, insisted Pakistan had no option but to leave Ahmed and others back home because of their busy schedule in recent months.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/pak...orld-cup-threats-dubai-clean-sweep/2019-04-01
 
Shinwari at lords and trent bridge will be lethal weapon you heard it here first. He can blow away opposition.

He maybe, but he could also end it for us.
Like he ended our T20 streak in SA
Whoever gets picked will have my FULL support for 2 months!
 
He has good pace and aggression and should definitely be in the squad.

In terms of Mickey and Sarfraz, along with Inzy and the selection I think becomes pretty obvious.

The players who have been rested will all play barring any injury so -

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Sarfraz
5. Faheem
6. Shadab
7. Afridi
8. Hasan

With those eight locked in, it gives the squad seven players to play around with and the following are probably going too:

Haris
Shan
Malik
Imad
Shinwari
Shah

Leaving a spot open for the likes of Rizwan/Hasnain/Abid/Asif Ali...the pick will be based on team balance and sadly, politics. Can they pick Rizwan is Sarfraz is captain? If not then do they pick Asif? Do they pick a teenager?

Heck, Amir could even be in the reckoning.

Bhaijan not Shah.
Please
 
This is going to be one of the toughest squads to pick ever for a World Cup.

I wouldn't want to be in the selectors shoes.

Wait... are you serious? I feel like this is the first time most, if not all, members of the squad are finalized.

We've been playing pretty much with the same core group of players over the last year and I don't expect any big changes in the WC either.
 
Or may be Asif Ali is spending time with his daughter?

In which case inshallah his daughter is making a full and speedy recovery. Frankly Asif has been utterly courageous playing this long whilst his daughter has been so sick. If he wants more time away, including the World Cup, I don't think anyone will have a problem with that.

Why would you want to make an already weak batting line up weaker?

Shadab and Faheem are not all rounders.

They may be able to score in Test cricket but it doesn't mean the same for ODI cricket.

Yasir Shah has a higher batting average than Faheem Ashraf :facepalm:


Imad at 7, Shadab at 8, Hasan at 9, Amir at 10.

Shadab, Hasan and Amir all can hold a bat and can whack a few if needed.

I would disagree in respect of Shadab. I think he's been pretty decent with the bat in all formats. Faheem has definately been more hit and miss.

My slight hesitation with Imad is that he doesn't seem to be a wicket taker in odis. His real success has been in t20s. Faheem on the other hand has been a big success with the ball - granted he did nothing in the recently concluded Aus series, but the pitches were pancakes. In England with the ball seaming around, I think Faheem is a better bowling option than Imad who will dart it in. It is a tough one though - I agree that Imad's inclusion would strengthen the batting.
 
Australia whitewashed Pakistan not realising that Mickey The Master is formulating the best plan to beat them at WC all along
Happened in CT too when England got knocked out having blanked Pakistan in previous series
 
This is going to be one of the toughest squads to pick ever for a World Cup.

I wouldn't want to be in the selectors shoes.

Spot on Saj! We're always very quick to castigate . . I hope we empathize with the selectors!

I for one am sure to be disappointed by a couple of selections (Shinwari and Faheem) . . but yea! They've got one hell of a job to select this squad . . .
 
I think the hundred 100 % names in the squad are

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Rizwan
Sarfraz
Hasan
Amir
Shinwari
Shadab
Imad
Faheem
Hafeez if fit.

The probables
Abid ali
Asif ali
Umar akmal
Junaid khan
Mohammad husnain

Imo they will probably pick mohammad husnain and asif ali from the probables.
 
He is just as capable of blowing his own team away. You just have to hope it's his day...

Which is why Junaid would be a safer choice as we know how much he can hurt his own team on his worst day. For Shinwari, he can singlehandedly lose a game on his own on his bad day.
 
This is going to be one of the toughest squads to pick ever for a World Cup.

I wouldn't want to be in the selectors shoes.

Not really. We aren't really the in the running so the expectations are pretty low.
I guess the spot he is talking about is either Shinwari/Junaid, Umar/Asif, or Shan/Abid.
I think Rizwan is pretty much a certain in the 15 because he can fit in variety of roles, plus having a back up keeper in WC is a sensible thing to do.
 
I think the hundred 100 % names in the squad are

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Rizwan
Sarfraz
Hasan
Amir
Shinwari
Shadab
Imad
Faheem
Hafeez if fit.

The probables
Abid ali
Asif ali
Umar akmal
Junaid khan
Mohammad husnain

Imo they will probably pick mohammad husnain and asif ali from the probables.

Why wouldn't you take our best bowler currently(Shaheen Afridi) to the WC?
 
we really need to sort our bowling out. Its looking pretty mediocre at the moment. Every single one of them can get hammered on their day. I mean I can see someone like Dhawan ripping into shinwari. From what I saw of hasnain he doesnt move the ball at all. I didnt watch the last ODI so not sure if he played or bowled. Even Hasan ali can get smashed to pieces on his day. I mean we have some decent bats now. With Haris finally realising that getting pretty 40's isnt the way to play cricket, with Rizwan carrying on his form, and even imam who hit some decent scores in SA against good bowling.

But what to do about our lower order? as we saw in this series, the top/middle managed to get us into decent positions but we dont have a Moin,razzaq or afridi type who can hit a quick 25 off 8 etc. Imad just looks utter garbage. His bowling is bakwaas, he is supposed to be a big hitter but lacks any real innovation. I mean all you have to do is block of the cover area in the field and he cant do anything..mindless tuller.. His bowling is terrible for ODI's.

i would select faheem and shadab as allrounders for a team in england. faheem can move that ball off the surface and has some zip and we know shadab is a decent ODI bowler. I would only select Hafeez not Malik. And i would play Hafeez like we did in the CT. He can help us in the 35-41 over mark. Asif Ali should be a given as our end of overs big hitter.

No Akmal please as he is utter bakwaas and still hits those stupid mindless shots. He just isnt a good player and will never get any better.

malik is bakwaas too and we will see him get dropped as the tournament goes on. Remember in this format the team that plays the later matches doesnt normally match the one that plays the first couple.

Finally coming onto Yasir. I wouldnt have him in the squad but I can understand if Mickey would want him there. He is a world class bowler but just hasnt done it in ODI's. Zampa will be a revelation in this torunie and we know the Indian leggies will come to play..so shall we play yasir? not sure..
 
My squad:

openers:
fakhar
imam
abid

Middle:
Babar
Haris
Rizwan
Sarfi
hafeez
Asif Ali
allrounders:
Faheem
Shadab

Bowlers:
Shaheen
Amir
Shinwari/Junaid Khan
Hasan Ali

Not sures:
Yasir
Hasnain
Imad
Junaid Khan

Our strategy has to be to keep the opposition down to 260 ish. We did that against the aussies and with our full bowling lineup should aim to do the same. hence perhaps having Junaid bowl in the middle overs will help in England..

My 11 for the first match against the WI.

1)Imam
2)Fakhar
3)Babur
4)Haris
5)Hafeez (if fit) if not Rizwan
6)Sarfi
7)Faheem Ashraf
8)Shadab
9)Shaheen
10)Amir
11)Hasan Ali

bench:
Asif Ali/hafeez Depending on fitness./Rizwan
Junaid
Shinwari
Imad

I would try and find a way to take both asif and Rizwan..not sure how..
 
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Bhaijan not Shah.
Please

I am not saying I want Shah to play but I think he will be likely part of the squad.

Personally, I think he is a terrific test bowler and the first truly great leggy since Warne but bowlers like him require a good captain and he has been saddled with Sarfraz and then Malik and Imad. Leggies need attacking field settings and to be bowled at a time when pressure has been built, never more so than in the modern ODI environment. With all that lacking, he may not warrant a place in the side.
 
This series was a waste of time. We should have just selected our best players. They didn't have any interest in changing the squad it seems like. Would rather just have player our best 11 , maybe rest the fast bowlers . So they can get use to their roles.
Did you not read the part where he said Fakhar and Babar were nursing injuries ?

If they played and got crocked, fans would be complaining then !
 
Mickey Arthur speaking after the conclusion of the Pakistan vs Australia ODI series:
(No finisher) "That's one thing we aren't blessed with. I've got my eye on 3 players we need to work on to perform that role. The England tour will be like a training camp for us and we're going to be working on these things in that time, we've got to get those 3 guys up to speed"

Wow, fans can watch another training camp live for 5 days.
 
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Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Malik
Hafeez
Sarfraz


Imad
Shadab

Hasan
Shaheen
Amir

That's 12 certain picks...

3 players remaining

One is probably Faheem so 13. Other is Shinwari so 14.

That leaves Rizwan, Abid and Umar Akmal to fight out the 15th spot.

My guess is Rizwan will make the cut, and Umar Akmal fans will continue to say that had Umar been taken to England, he would have won Pakistan the Cup.

On the other hand, if Pakistan thinks out of the box, Rizwan might be on the plane along with Umar, leaving Faheem behind but I don't think that will be done.
 
No matter how well you bat or bowl, you cant win a match unless you can finish it well. Pak has been lacking in that department for sometime now.

Mickey says they are considering 3 players in that role, why didnt he try any in the Aus series? If he also considers Umar Akmal than on what basis he thinks he is a finisher. Don’t remember last time he finished a match in domestics let alone in international cricket. Unless he is good enough to be backup of top 4, he cant be in the squad by just calling him a finisher.

Asif Ali and Iftikhar Ahmed havent done anything at international level but they are probably the ones who have finished more matches in domestics than Umar Akmal and should have been tried in this series. Adil Amin was a pretty decent hitter and finisher but he wasnt even given a look at for PSL, he is playing in Pakistan cup though. Sad thing is we havent even tried anybody out of them except Asif Ali.

Asking from the domestic team players could have given more finisher options than the eye of Mickey and Inzi.

They might be poor but we need to select the best one out of these as this position is as important as any other position.
 
I think he's talking about the selection between Shinwari and Junaid.

The rest have comfortably locked up. Those who aren't playing in the team main eleven, Haris will make it as back up middle order considering he's been there with the team longer and in good form. He probably should be playing over Malik or Hafeez but won't happen I don't think. Then either Rizwan or Abid is included, one being a back up wicketkeeper, the other being back up opener. Think they'll go for Rizwan. If Hafeez is injured, they'll likely bring both these guys.

Faheem will be the pace allrounder option in case that's needed. Hence that leaves only 1 slot in the 15, which is the backup pace bowler. So that's between Shinwari and Junaid. And I think Shinwari will get the nod after a better series overall, but as you can see from fans, people are pretty divided out of the two who should be given the nod.

Guys like Asif, Umar quick hitters down the order are nice, but a luxury that I don't think will be fitted in the squad or play anyway. And they haven't impressed enough with their form to do so. Again with Yasir, might be nice to have another spinner, but we have two spinners in Shadab and Imad so unlikely we'll have a third even if he's a "specialist".
 
Fakhar
Imam
Shan

Babar
Haris
Malik
Hafeez

Sarfaraz
Rizwan

Shadab
Imad
Faheem

Amir
Hasan
Shinwari
Shaheen

I can bet those are the 16 they are looking at . . and one of Rizwan and Shan will be dropped . . and given Rizwan's 2 centuries and Shan's 'okay-ish' series . . I think Rizwan will get the go ahead . .

We can all agree or disagree, but I will be highly surprised if tehre's any deviation from that . .
 
I would disagree in respect of Shadab. I think he's been pretty decent with the bat in all formats. Faheem has definately been more hit and miss.

My slight hesitation with Imad is that he doesn't seem to be a wicket taker in odis. His real success has been in t20s. Faheem on the other hand has been a big success with the ball - granted he did nothing in the recently concluded Aus series, but the pitches were pancakes. In England with the ball seaming around, I think Faheem is a better bowling option than Imad who will dart it in. It is a tough one though - I agree that Imad's inclusion would strengthen the batting.

Average of 20 odd at a strike rate of 65 is far from decent if you're putting him at number 7... You may be able to slot him in at 7 in Test matches but for LOI he's not good enough of a batsman.

He is good for number 8 but at 7 he makes the tail way too long.

Imad makes the team on batting alone.
 
no need for amir vs junaid debate, none of them will be int he first xi.

cuz 5 bowlers will probably be shaheen,shinwari, hasan ali, and spinners shadab+imad
 
Shoaib Malik no longer has space in the starting 11, he must start on the bench as Haris Sohail is a superior player who has a better average, makes most of his starts and is at his peak and makes our team more solid, malik is on the way down at his age and must be utilised in case of injuries, let's see if mickey arthur sees sense

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Sarfaraz
Imad
Shadab/faheem
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen

Subs
Malik
Rizwan
Shinwari
 
Did you not read the part where he said Fakhar and Babar were nursing injuries ?

If they played and got crocked, fans would be complaining then !

Fakhar played the whole of the PSL. Couldn't have been that bad an injury.
 
Shoaib Malik no longer has space in the starting 11, he must start on the bench as Haris Sohail is a superior player who has a better average, makes most of his starts and is at his peak and makes our team more solid, malik is on the way down at his age and must be utilised in case of injuries, let's see if mickey arthur sees sense

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Sarfaraz
Imad
Shadab/faheem
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen

Subs
Malik
Rizwan
Shinwari

I like your squad.. except maybe I'd go for a fast/medium bowler in England conditions. So, Faheem instead of Imad.
 
No surprises with his statement. It's been well known. Squad was pretty much sealed.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam Ul Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Asif Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Imad Wasim
9. Faheem Ashraf
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi

12. Shadab Khan
13. Usman Shinwari
14. Junaid Khan/Mohammad Amir

The spot they are making up their mind still:

15. Hafeez/Abid
 
No surprises with his statement. It's been well known. Squad was pretty much sealed.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam Ul Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Asif Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Imad Wasim
9. Faheem Ashraf
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi

12. Shadab Khan
13. Usman Shinwari
14. Junaid Khan/Mohammad Amir

The spot they are making up their mind still:

15. Hafeez/Abid

And how exactly is Asifs spot sealed over Rizwan and Abid who are recent centurians? This is not my opinion by the way, just wondering how you are so certain.
 
And how exactly is Asifs spot sealed over Rizwan and Abid who are recent centurians? This is not my opinion by the way, just wondering how you are so certain.
I guess when cricket legends like Waqar Yunus act dumb and pick Asif Ali and Wahab Riaz in their WC squad then what can fans do.
 
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