Only Babar Azam and Sarfraz Ahmed showed some intent with the bat

[saabir]

In the whole batting line up only babar Azam & Sarfraz looks like the players of modern standard.Sami is one dimensional players only has a good defence. Rest r just not too good to be in any good lineups

 

[Jan Sher]

Lol @ Babar Azam showed intent. Overrated talent.

Sarfraz was the only one who showed intent. A fighter. Should take over from Misbah in the 2nd Test.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Lol @ Babar Azam showed intent. Overrated talent.

Sarfraz was the only one who showed intent. A fighter. Should take over from Misbah in the 2nd Test.

What a deluded post.

Babar Azam will be leading Pakistan batsmen over next 10 years or so.

Sarfraz is good but much too often, he throws it away being too attacking.

Both are important for this team.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

In the whole batting line up only babar Azam & Sarfraz looks like the players of modern standard.Sami is one dimensional players only has a good defence. Rest r just not too good to be in any good lineups

Babar has all the shots that's why he showed intent.

Sarfraz plays that way always.

Rest of the batsmen defend in UAE and attack when bowlers get tired. In Australia if you defend too much you will get caught out, which happened to all of them.

Sami is a good opener with limited strokes. He will play this way always.

 

[Jan Sher]

Babar has all the shots that's why he showed intent.

Sarfraz plays that way always.

Rest of the batsmen defend in UAE and attack when bowlers get tired. In Australia if you defend too much you will get caught out, which happened to all of them.

Sami is a good opener with limited strokes. He will play this way always.

Babar might have all the shots, but his temperament is not good for Test cricket yet, he has been rushed into Test cricket.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Babar might have all the shots, but his temperament is not good for Test cricket yet, he has been rushed into Test cricket.

And Sarfraz has the right temperament?

Were it not for Wade missing the stumping chance, Pakistan would be 9 down at the close with Sarfraz gone for 30 off 30 balls.

We already had a player who can do this type of thing.

Remember Umar Akmal?

 

[Jan Sher]

What a deluded post.

Babar Azam will be leading Pakistan batsmen over next 10 years or so.

Sarfraz is good but much too often, he throws it away being too attacking.

Both are important for this team.

Lol. He might be our best batsman in ODI cricket, but not in Test cricket, like Shafiq, he has got temperament issues. Haris Sohail is the real deal.

 

[Jan Sher]

And Sarfraz has the right temperament?

Were it not for Wade missing the stumping chance, Pakistan would be 9 down at the close with Sarfraz gone for 30 off 30 balls.

We already had a player who can do this type of thing.

Remember Umar Akmal?

Fortune favors the brave.

I would still take Umar Akmal over Babar Azam in my starting XI.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Lol. He might be our best batsman in ODI cricket, but not in Test cricket, like Shafiq, he has got temperament issues. Haris Sohail is the real deal.

The one who has "I cry when my I pinch my nail" fitness?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Fortune favors the brave.

I would still take Umar Akmal over Babar Azam in my starting XI.

Your team would be bowled out for 200, 10 times out of 10.

The team playing now would be bowled out for 100 9 times out of 10 , with one off chance they score 300.

Who would you pick?

Doesn't matter either way as far as I know.

 

[Jan Sher]

The one who has "I cry when my I pinch my nail" fitness?

Fitness is overrated. He can last for 5 days, is a good fielder, what else do I want?

 

[Jan Sher]

Your team would be bowled out for 200, 10 times out of 10.

The team playing now would be bowled out for 100 9 times out of 10 , with one off chance they score 300.

Who would you pick?

Doesn't matter either way as far as I know.

I don't get what your point is?

Babar Azam is not a world class Test material.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Fitness is overrated. He can last for 5 days, is a good fielder, what else do I want?

By fitness means he can stand up on his own and be counted.

I am not talking about abs and six packs.

It's about lasting the entire match without injuring yourself. If he could do that, he would already be in the team.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I don't get what your point is?

Babar Azam is not a world class Test material.

And Sarfraz is?

If Babar is not test material, then Sarfraz has no case either, since both average in 40s.

You can't defend one and tell that other is useless, unless you are biased.

 

[Jan Sher]

By fitness means he can stand up on his own and be counted.

I am not talking about abs and six packs.

It's about lasting the entire match without injuring yourself. If he could do that, he would already be in the team.

He can last a full match, but has been out mostly due to discipline issues.

 

[New Yorker]

What a deluded post.

Babar Azam will be leading Pakistan batsmen over next 10 years or so.

Sarfraz is good but much too often, he throws it away being too attacking.

Both are important for this team.

Not the most measured reply.

We hope he starts leading more often.

Did everyone forget all of a sudden that ODIs and Tests are different games?

 

[Jan Sher]

And Sarfraz is?

If Babar is not test material, then Sarfraz has no case either, since both average in 40s.

You can't defend one and tell that other is useless, unless you are biased.

I haven't said Babar ain't Test material. I said he ain't a world class talent for Test cricket. He is a Test material, but not a world class one. Same goes for Sarfraz, but at least Sarfraz has been gutsy. Ideally, Babar should open in Test cricket alongside Fakhar Zaman.

 

[New Yorker]

And Sarfraz is?

If Babar is not test material, then Sarfraz has no case either, since both average in 40s.

You can't defend one and tell that other is useless, unless you are biased.

Fair enough to stump for Babar.

But who is not biased in the end?

Sarfraz is not in the team on the strength of his batting alone.

And yes as a wicketkeeper-batsman he is world class. By far the premier choice in Pakistan.

Babar looks good still, and good for him that he put up on some fight.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Not the most measured reply.

We hope he starts leading more often.

Did everyone forget all of a sudden that ODIs and Tests are different games?

If you are expecting a 22 year old to master the art of negating Starc (a potential ATG in ODI's) and Hazlewood (an Australian great) on a test match pitch, during his first test in Australia in the first innings, you don't ask much , do you??

Even Umar Akmal fluked his way to a 100, in 2009. But he never could keep his shots down and lost his place in the team.

Babar has issues with leaving balls outside off stump, but he doesn't hit rash shots like his cousin, so his ceiling is higher.

Of course, if you rather he play like Tendulkar as a 17 year old facing Wasim and Waqar, so he is not at their caliber yet.

But if you believe, this will be a good learning curve for him, and he has the most potential as a Pakistani batsmen , and are willing to forgive his occasional interludes, then he is a great find for Pakistan.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Fair enough to stump for Babar.

But who is not biased in the end?

Sarfraz is not in the team on the strength of his batting alone.

And yes as a wicketkeeper-batsman he is world class. By far the premier choice in Pakistan.

Babar looks good still, and good for him that he put up on some fight.

I agree, but one has to look at it objectively.

The only reason I got into the argument with the poster is , he said "overrated talent" to Babar Azam.

Which is the most illogical comment I have seen about him so far.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I haven't said Babar ain't Test material. I said he ain't a world class talent for Test cricket. He is a Test material, but not a world class one. Same goes for Sarfraz, but at least Sarfraz has been gutsy. Ideally, Babar should open in Test cricket alongside Fakhar Zaman.

You said he is "overrated talent".

That is not correct.

He has the highest potential ceiling for any Pakistani batsmen.

 

[Jan Sher]

You said he is "overrated talent".

That is not correct.

He has the highest potential ceiling for any Pakistani batsmen.

On what basis has he got the highest potential ceiling? Lol. For ODI, I can understand, but how come for Test cricket? When it comes to the longer format, Haris Sohail is way better than him.

 

[Adil_94]

Sarfraz is naturally attacking and hes playing his normal game. Sami is ultra defensive as is Azhar. Younis generally does play strokes after he's made 30 or 40 but he can't seem to get past 10 at the moment. Misbah and Shafiq got out early. Shafiq does have strokes but he is a timid character. Sami n Azhar are the worst in regards to positive intent.

 

[Ankit007]

Amir and sami aslam also showed some intent

 

[Speedster777]

Sarfraz is the only fighter in the team who bats like modern batsmen. He should be our captain I 've never seen this guy under pressure. Misbah, younus and Azhar Ali are liabilities they are rarely going to be successful outside UAE. Especially Misbah and Younis are way past their age to be playing.

 

[JaDed]

Amir and sami aslam also showed some intent

There was no "intent" from Sami Aslam bro,I'm all for attrition but he wasn't even trying to hit the bad balls.

 

[ExplicitAI]

The other batsman like Azhar, YK, Misbah and Asad look to poke the ball and get caught in the slips. They can solidly block the ball but their outside edge gets caught too much. No point fishing for the ball, curiosity kills the cat.

 

[AlphaFighter]

Someone needs to hypnotize the players and tell them "It is not gunaah to play your shots", "It is not blasphemy to bat at S/R of 50 plus in test cricket".

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Babar might have all the shots, but his temperament is not good for Test cricket yet, he has been rushed into Test cricket.

Same said about Kohli when given chance that he was rushed to test cricket. Didn't u see Babar carry the bat in NZL in 2nd test on a tough wicket. He is the find of the decade for Pakistan just like Amit. He will quickly adjust to the conditions. Players like Sami is also important for test cricket. Time for the old guns to make some runs or hang their shoes.

 

[Madplayer]

Someone needs to hypnotize the players and tell them "It is not gunaah to play your shots", "It is not blasphemy to bat at S/R of 50 plus in test cricket".

gunaah to play your shots )

Truly this old style of play in tests is tailor made for UAE but in Aus and south africa and even NZ, you have to score a bit quicker because the pitch can produce a jaffa anytime and take your wicket.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

They're the only ones capable of putting away the bad ball. The rest are Misbah clones.

 

[Jan Sher]

Same said about Kohli when given chance that he was rushed to test cricket. Didn't u see Babar carry the bat in NZL in 2nd test on a tough wicket. He is the find of the decade for Pakistan just like Amit. He will quickly adjust to the conditions. Players like Sami is also important for test cricket. Time for the old guns to make some runs or hang their shoes.

Lol @ find of the decade, take it easy, brother.

Kohli averaged above 50 in FC cricket at the time when he made his Test debut, so it meant he had the potential to average 50 plus at International level, while Babar doesn't even average 45 in FC cricket, and people call him something special, lol.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar is the only 'batsman' in this lineup, while Sarfraz is highly flawed but he has a lot of heart and determination.

Some of the others are not batsmen, some of them are heartless cowards and some are both.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Babar will eventually start scoring consistently. He is just too good to not do it.

Sarfraz is the only fighter in this Pakistani team who is not a mental midget. He has performed so many times when others have failed.

 

[Madplayer]

Babar is the only 'batsman' in this lineup, while Sarfraz is highly flawed but he has a lot of heart and determination.

Some of the others are not batsmen, some of them are heartless cowards and some are both.

You used to rate azhar and asad highly didnt u?

 

[the SHA]

We need Sharjeel in this line-up. Sharjeel for Shafiq. Sharjeel for Younis. Sharjeel for Sami. I don't care. Somebody with some intent that can put pressure back on the bowlers. We cannot block on like this.

 

[Mamoon]

You used to rate azhar and asad highly didnt u?

I did, but I was hopeful that they will come into their own during these overseas tours and show that they are ready to make the step.

Both have been exposed, especially Shafiq. He is capable but a mental midget. Azhar is still our best opener.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

And Sarfraz has the right temperament?

Were it not for Wade missing the stumping chance, Pakistan would be 9 down at the close with Sarfraz gone for 30 off 30 balls.

We already had a player who can do this type of thing.

Remember Umar Akmal?

How is 30 off 30 worse than 22 off 100 or 4 off 20, or 0 off 1?

At least he scores consistently. Don't have a double standard where defensive failures are fine and attacking ones are condemned.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

How is 30 off 30 worse than 22 off 100 or 4 off 20, or 0 off 1?

At least he scores consistently. Don't have a double standard where defensive failures are fine and attacking ones are condemned.

Actually in tests it matters a lot because a slow knock might eat up the overs and help in a draw.

While a 30 off 30, while amazing for an ODI, would do nothing to save the match.

You have to sometimes look beyond SR, which I am sure it's hard for you to do, since you love T20.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Babar is a class apart. Just needs to improve his concentration otherwise he is our best batsman.

 

[Syed1]

Sarfaraz doesn't have the same technique of the 'seniors' and 'golden-boys', but my God that lad has heart and plenty of it.

Never shies away from a challenge and has a never-say-die attitude about him.


Do you want such a chap as your captain, or you want someone who flops as soon as the going gets tough and the only way he knows how to play is defense?

 

[QalandarFan]

Hope Babar can rack up a big score in the second innings!

 

[New Yorker]

I agree, but one has to look at it objectively.

The only reason I got into the argument with the poster is , he said "overrated talent" to Babar Azam.

Which is the most illogical comment I have seen about him so far.

I agree, except there is no such thing as the objective position. We all come from somewhere, we all have a position.

 

[New Yorker]

We need Sharjeel in this line-up. Sharjeel for Shafiq. Sharjeel for Younis. Sharjeel for Sami. I don't care. Somebody with some intent that can put pressure back on the bowlers. We cannot block on like this.

We need good batsmen. Not someone who will score fast but get out cheaply. 4 off 2 balls is not better than 4 off 20 balls in Tests. Sr of 50 or 60 would still be terrific. Maybe Sharjeel is actually good, but I'm not convinced he's a better choice than someone like Fakhar Zaman or Fawad Alam or Imam ul Haq. Certainly he is not more deserving.

 

[New Yorker]

Babar is a class apart. Just needs to improve his concentration otherwise he is our best batsman.

It's not a small 'just'

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Babar is a class apart. Just needs to improve his concentration otherwise he is our best batsman.

Not a concentration issue. It's a head and front foot alignment problem. His front foot's there but the head is arriving a bit late so he's throwing his hands because he isn't fully under the ball.