Oppenheimer film scene offends 1 billion people

[Major]

Oppenheimer was released just two weeks agao, and many indians were praising and going gaga about how the Geeta was also referred and how Oppenheimer read the Geeta aswell.

However, soon Indians were furious where a scene was shown where Oppenheimer is reading the Geeta while having sexual intercourse.

It has led to indians declaring boycott as they have been offended

 

[MenInG]

Oppenheimer continues to rile up a section in India for its controversial Bhagavad Gita scene. But that doesn't seem to deter its solid run at the box office.

Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer continues an impressive run at the Indian box office well into its second week. As per a Business Today report, the film is attracting great footfall despite the controversial scene where the titular character is seen evoking the Bhagavad Gita during a lovemaking scene.

Oppenheimer released on July 21, along with Greta Gerwig's adaptation of Barbie, starring Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie. The Christopher Nolan directorial, along with Barbie, collectively made a total of ₹100 crore in their opening week at the Indian box office alone.

Oppenheimer alone raked in ₹73.20 crore in the first week, followed by additions of ₹4.35 crore and ₹7.25 crore on its second Friday and Saturday respectively. Its nine-day collection thus stands at ₹84.80 crore.

The film is likely to earn good numbers on the second Sunday as well, given the word-of-mouth and the terrific momentum at the Indian box office, along with the fact that Sunday is a holiday.

Hindustan Times

 

[KingKhanWC]

Religious material shouldn't be used/preached in such scenes.

Sadly there is an understanding or misunderstanding Hinduism is ok with such types of actions or promotes it.

 

[Major]

Religious material shouldn't be used/preached in such scenes.

Sadly there is an understanding or misunderstanding Hinduism is ok with such types of actions or promotes it.

well they are not powerful enough to stop it.

But i still find it funny that there were Indians going gaga on twitter that look our book was mentioned in the film. THe outcome of it was just more hilarious though, now they are boycotting.

 

[ElRaja]

great film, the offended usually scream the loudest, im pretty sure the majority of people dont care.

 

[MenInG]

No issues in the Middle East - the whole thing was censored out.

 

[KingKhanWC]

great film, the offended usually scream the loudest, im pretty sure the majority of people dont care.

Is it accurate?

Did they mention the Manhattan project was conceived at a Satanic ritual in California?

 

[Bhaijaan]

This along with the noticeable omission of Indian soldiers representation in Dunkirk proved to me that Nolan isn’t perfect after all for a director known for giving exceptional attention to details.

Very much avoidable stuff.

The movie was brilliant and is doing great business in India however. The people who are outraged aren’t even the target audience.

 

[ElRaja]

Is it accurate?

Did they mention the Manhattan project was conceived at a Satanic ritual in California?

nope, im assuming by satanic ritual you mean bohemian grove? delving into the preamble of the discovery of the potential of nuclear weaponry would have reduced the focus on Oppenheimer, which wouldn't have made sense from the story pov.

 

[KingKhanWC]

nope, im assuming by satanic ritual you mean bohemian grove? delving into the preamble of the discovery of the potential of nuclear weaponry would have reduced the focus on Oppenheimer, which wouldn't have made sense from the story pov.

Yes, it would have also caused a little more uproar than the offence some Hindus have taken.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

No issues in the Middle East - the whole thing was censored out.

I would imagine they are watching a censored version of Oppenheimer in India as well to be honest. Pretty sure I read there was full frontal nudity in the film which I've never seen in Bollywood, so unless there is some separate categorisation which allows exceptions, I don't think Indians will be watching the uncut version anyway.

 

[Rana]

Pointless nude/sex scenes

Nolan and his fans would argue that he is very careful and precise with every single minute of his screen time, and the scene was necessary…but seriously not having those scenes in the movie would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever

 

[MenInG]

Pointless nude/sex scenes

Nolan and his fans would argue that he is very careful and precise with every single minute of his screen time, and the scene was necessary…but seriously not having those scenes in the movie would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever

In which case does it make sense in the first place?

 

[Rana]

In which case does it make sense in the first place?

I can only think that Nolan has a fascination of tapping into the Indian market by appeasing them.

The casting of Dimple in Tenet was pretty stupid as well if you ask me. It was impossible to work out what exactly she is trying to say unless you have subtitles at the bottom. He probably thought it would be a great touch to mention Oppenheimer was inspired by the Geeta, but then why have all that pathetic sexualised symbolism for artistic value?

A great movie ruined by pointless scenes

 

[MenInG]

Yes agree that he has a fascination.

 

[Major]

I would imagine they are watching a censored version of Oppenheimer in India as well to be honest. Pretty sure I read there was full frontal nudity in the film which I've never seen in Bollywood, so unless there is some separate categorisation which allows exceptions, I don't think Indians will be watching the uncut version anyway.

the censored copy that was shown in pakistan shows the sex scene in a way that the female actress had a black dress on. Scene was cut out

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nolan is a very talented director, although can't say I've really got much out of them beyond the Batman trilogy. Inception was clever, but not entertaining enough for me to watch it more than once. I will watch Oppenheimer when it comes out on tv but doesn't seem like it's going to be one I can take the family to.

 

[Major]

Pointless nude/sex scenes

Nolan and his fans would argue that he is very careful and precise with every single minute of his screen time, and the scene was necessary…but seriously not having those scenes in the movie would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever

Bro, the scene made sense. Because the Quote "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds" is taken from the Gita. The sex scene went with it aswell as the guy had a tendency of being a wominzer as he was cheating on his wife aswell.

Nolan did a masterclass by having the sex scene and the gita scene merged together.

 

[Rana]

Bro, the scene made sense. Because the Quote "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds" is taken from the Gita. The sex scene went with it aswell as the guy had a tendency of being a wominzer as he was cheating on his wife aswell.

Nolan did a masterclass by having the sex scene and the gita scene merged together.

As I said

Of course Nolan knew what he was doing but he is more than capable of sending the very same message in a more decent way.

It’s very difficult know to watch this movie with family, otherwise it’s brilliant for educational purposes

 

[Major]

As I said

Of course Nolan knew what he was doing but he is more than capable of sending the very same message in a more decent way.

It’s very difficult know to watch this movie with family, otherwise it’s brilliant for educational purposes

Naa, he did it brilliantly.


Nolan isnt required to make a buyers persona of a South Asian Family...

 

[Rana]

Naa, he did it brilliantly.


Nolan isnt required to make a buyers persona of a South Asian Family...

But the criticism has also come from Western viewers too. It’s just very awkward

 

[Major]

But the criticism has also come from Western viewers too. It’s just very awkward

its mostly been Indians and NRIs..

 

[ElRaja]

florench pugh looked amazing, i aint complaining, FWIW the film was about a bomb that literally evaporated people into nothingness, the mild controversy over sex scenes which in the greater context were far less abnormal than the actual content of the film says more about the viewers who were perturbed than the film maker, my two pennies worth.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Waiting for a decent-quality uncensored version to be available online. Pretty sure theatres in India will be showing with scenes deleted. Also, that quote of his was immediately after the nuclear test and not while indulging in carnal activity? Or was this him reading the text for the first time?

At any rate, can't wait to watch it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

florench pugh looked amazing, i aint complaining, FWIW the film was about a bomb that literally evaporated people into nothingness, the mild controversy over sex scenes which in the greater context were far less abnormal than the actual content of the film says more about the viewers who were perturbed than the film maker, my two pennies worth.

Not really, just reflects the difference between some cultures. The content of this film is really important, certainly it's a film that many would want to watch in the Muslim community, but I guess they would just have to watch individually rather than with their families. Even if your son or daughter was 18 I still don't think it's a great experience watching sex scenes in close up detail with them, and it's equally awkward for them. I think that's the case in most cultures, just isn't discussed much these days in fear of looking old fashioned.

 

[Major]

Funny how it has become a big concern for muslims whether to watch it as a family or not..... Wonder if they had same whining about Game of Thrones, or every other netflix series......

Nolan isnt there to cater to certain cultures, and dont expect him too.

Also, i doubt any kid would even understand the movie as its a bit complex

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Funny how it has become a big concern for muslims whether to watch it as a family or not..... Wonder if they had same whining about Game of Thrones, or every other netflix series......

Nolan isnt there to cater to certain cultures, and dont expect him too.

Also, i doubt any kid would even understand the movie as its a bit complex

Why do you think it's funny how it's a concern to watch it with family? Would you happily watch it with your daughter or sister? Maybe you did, I don't know. It was the same for Game of Thrones for me, I watched it mostly alone, or maybe a few episodes with friends. I can't honestly think of many of the scenes which had a lot of sex or nudity that were crucial to the series, it would still have been great with them edited to some extent.

But you are right that Nolan isn't there to cater to other cultures, no one should expect it. We are just giving our perspective, we can still appreciate the overall movie.

 

[ElRaja]

Not really, just reflects the difference between some cultures. The content of this film is really important, certainly it's a film that many would want to watch in the Muslim community, but I guess they would just have to watch individually rather than with their families. Even if your son or daughter was 18 I still don't think it's a great experience watching sex scenes in close up detail with them, and it's equally awkward for them. I think that's the case in most cultures, just isn't discussed much these days in fear of looking old fashioned.

i agree with you, i wouldnt watch it with my parents either, but neither would i watch a documentary about Mexican gang violence, or a film like trainspotting.

from my understanding people arent complaining about the cultural impact from that pov, they are saying that the scenes are not required from an artistic pov, there are a multitude of things that people indulge in that they would not do so openly with their parents, doesnt make them inherently wrong or free of artistic merit IMHO.

Spoiler

the scene in the interview room had a specific weight to it, which IMO would not be possible without the explicit nature of how it was shot

 

[KingKhanWC]

Funny how it has become a big concern for muslims whether to watch it as a family or not..... Wonder if they had same whining about Game of Thrones, or every other netflix series......

Nolan isnt there to cater to certain cultures, and dont expect him too.

Also, i doubt any kid would even understand the movie as its a bit complex

LOL

Of course they wouldn't feel comfortable watching GOT with the family. Pls dont say you have/do?

I think on streaming services there should be a skip scene button for those who dont want to watch nudity or even extreme gore violence. These scenes add little to the storyline.

Just leave religion out of movies unless they are religious stories.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Bro, the scene made sense. Because the Quote "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds" is taken from the Gita. The sex scene went with it aswell as the guy had a tendency of being a wominzer as he was cheating on his wife aswell.

Nolan did a masterclass by having the sex scene and the gita scene merged together.

Now that I think of it, it’s kind of funny he showed Oppie calling himself Death and Destroyer of things during intercourse.

Offensive but genius.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Funny how it has become a big concern for muslims whether to watch it as a family or not..... Wonder if they had same whining about Game of Thrones, or every other netflix series......

Nolan isnt there to cater to certain cultures, and dont expect him too.

Also, i doubt any kid would even understand the movie as its a bit complex

Quit being a Nolan fan my man, no one watches Got with family anyway. Chill out mate

 

[Major]

LOL

Of course they wouldn't feel comfortable watching GOT with the family. Pls dont say you have/do?

I think on streaming services there should be a skip scene button for those who dont want to watch nudity or even extreme gore violence. These scenes add little to the storyline.

Just leave religion out of movies unless they are religious stories.

Again, directors are not concerned how some south asian is gonna get offended. Dont watch the series or movie than...

Im sure there are illogical movies like top gun that attracts certain people

 

[Major]

Now that I think of it, it’s kind of funny he showed Oppie calling himself Death and Destroyer of things during intercourse.

Offensive but genius.

See, to watch and understand a nolan movie you need a brain.

You cant argue and discuss this with people who think top gun was the best movie ever for them

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Again, directors are not concerned how some south asian is gonna get offended. Dont watch the series or movie than...

Im sure there are illogical movies like top gun that attracts certain people

Are Arabs south Asian? I'm pretty sure MIG mentioned earlier that the Arabs just deleted the whole sexual intercourse scene and showed the rest of the film no issues. I don't know why you keep using the word offended when referring to South Asians or presumably Arabs. No one is offended, they just don't feel comfortable watching sex scenes with their family. In fact I know plenty of English people who have admitted as much as well, there have been news columns written about it. Maybe stop trying to score points and think things through before replying. If you think it's ok to watch pornography with your family just say so, and give your reasoning.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

i agree with you, i wouldnt watch it with my parents either, but neither would i watch a documentary about Mexican gang violence, or a film like trainspotting.

from my understanding people arent complaining about the cultural impact from that pov, they are saying that the scenes are not required from an artistic pov, there are a multitude of things that people indulge in that they would not do so openly with their parents, doesnt make them inherently wrong or free of artistic merit IMHO.

Spoiler

the scene in the interview room had a specific weight to it, which IMO would not be possible without the explicit nature of how it was shot

Yep, I have no issue watching most anything other than gratuitous violence if the film or show merits it, but there is some stuff which I don't feel is appropriate to watch with family. Which is why I said I'll wait until Oppenheimer is released on TV and watch it then. It's a shame though, as I feel it would have been a decent show to watch with family, or at least the ones who are old enough to appreciate it.

 

[Technics 1210]

The nudity is not the problem in an Indian audience, it is the verse from the Gita during the scene that is causing offence.

Deal with it, the same people were supporting Salman Rushdie’s antics under the guide of Freedom of expression.

Plus I can bet the majority of Indians had no clue about the verse until the documentaries were released.

 

[Major]

Are Arabs south Asian? I'm pretty sure MIG mentioned earlier that the Arabs just deleted the whole sexual intercourse scene and showed the rest of the film no issues. I don't know why you keep using the word offended when referring to South Asians or presumably Arabs. No one is offended, they just don't feel comfortable watching sex scenes with their family. In fact I know plenty of English people who have admitted as much as well, there have been news columns written about it. Maybe stop trying to score points and think things through before replying. If you think it's ok to watch pornography with your family just say so, and give your reasoning.

dont see any offended arabs here do I

So if you equate the movie to pornography, than why even bother to watch it in the first place? No wait, chacha Nolan needs to make it according to what South Asian family wants.

yeh, doesnt work that way does it.

Dekhna bhi hai aur phir rona bhi hai.

The movie is great just the way it is.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

dont see any offended arabs here do I

So if you equate the movie to pornography, than why even bother to watch it in the first place? No wait, chacha Nolan needs to make it according to what South Asian family wants.

yeh, doesnt work that way does it.

Dekhna bhi hai aur phir rona bhi hai.

The movie is great just the way it is.

So your points are not about the film in the wider context, you are only debating according to what opinions are expressed by posters here, is that your new position?

It would explain why instead of addressing the points raised over this thread you are reduced to weak racist trolling. If you can't address the posts you are replying to then maybe don't use the quote function.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The nudity is not the problem in an Indian audience, it is the verse from the Gita during the scene that is causing offence.

Deal with it, the same people were supporting Salman Rushdie’s antics under the guide of Freedom of expression.

Plus I can bet the majority of Indians had no clue about the verse until the documentaries were released.

If the sex scene isn't a problem, then what is the objection to the verse from the Gita being recited? Apologies, was not really sure what the furore was about, I just heard that Indians were angry about it. Is there a specific complaint as to why they found it offensive?

 

[Major]

So your points are not about the film in the wider context, you are only debating according to what opinions are expressed by posters here, is that your new position?

It would explain why instead of addressing the points raised over this thread you are reduced to weak racist trolling. If you can't address the posts you are replying to then maybe don't use the quote function.

It seems that you havent even watched the movie....

oh boy..

 

[Technics 1210]

If the sex scene isn't a problem, then what is the objection to the verse from the Gita being recited? Apologies, was not really sure what the furore was about, I just heard that Indians were angry about it. Is there a specific complaint as to why they found it offensive?

Yup, the complaint is that during the sex scene the verse from the Gita was being recited.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/media/india-oppenheimer-backlash-hindu-right-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[Champ_Pal]

Sex is one of the most important aspects of all living forms.

Movies only offend snow flakes.

 

[Rana]

Sex is one of the most important aspects of all living forms.

Movies only offend snow flakes.

No one is offended. There are plenty of sites where you can watch whatever you are into if viewing it is important to you

The argument that most educated/civilised people present is that the 1-2 sex/nude scenes were highly unnecessary to the plot and Nolan is well equipped with delivering the same message that he was trying to convey in a respectful/decent manner considering the importance of his work on this occasion

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Sex is one of the most important aspects of all living forms.

Movies only offend snow flakes.

Why do you keep assuming people are offended by sex scenes? It's a simple enough concept, the scenes are only deleted from public showings in some countries, because they are not considered suitable to watch with family. Inside your own homes you can watch whatever floats your boat, including porn with your parents and siblings if you like.

This is more relevant to Muslim communities, I have no idea why Indians have any problem with Oppenheimer and the recital of Gita during the sex scenes. You are from a hindu background, you should be able to shed some light on this so please do.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It seems that you havent even watched the movie....

oh boy..

So what is it you disagree with? Are you saying I should watch it with my family to appreciate the sex scene? Is that what you did?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

‘Oppenheimer’ triumphs at BAFTA Film Awards

‘Oppenheimer’, a three-hour epic about the making of the atomic bomb during World War Two, was the big winner at the BAFTA Film Awards on Sunday, picking up seven prizes in total.

One of the highest-grossing movies of 2023, it won the night’s top prize - best film. It also picked up awards for leading actor Cillian Murphy, supporting actor Robert Downey Jr, editing, cinematography, original score and director for Christopher Nolan, his first such BAFTA Award.

“I have so many people to thank for this, an incredible cast… an incredible crew,” Nolan said in his acceptance speech.

Emma Stone picked up the leading actress award for sex-charged gothic comedy ‘Poor Things’, which won five prizes overall.

Da’Vine Joy Randolph won the supporting actress prize for her role in ‘The Holdovers’, a comedy set in a boys’ boarding school.

‘Oppenheimer’ triumphs at BAFTA Film Awards

LONDON: ‘Oppenheimer’, a three-hour epic about the making of the atomic bomb during World War Two, was the big...

www.brecorder.com

 

[Cricket Warrior]

‘Oppenheimer’ triumphs at BAFTA Film Awards

‘Oppenheimer’, a three-hour epic about the making of the atomic bomb during World War Two, was the big winner at the BAFTA Film Awards on Sunday, picking up seven prizes in total.

One of the highest-grossing movies of 2023, it won the night’s top prize - best film. It also picked up awards for leading actor Cillian Murphy, supporting actor Robert Downey Jr, editing, cinematography, original score and director for Christopher Nolan, his first such BAFTA Award.

“I have so many people to thank for this, an incredible cast… an incredible crew,” Nolan said in his acceptance speech.

Emma Stone picked up the leading actress award for sex-charged gothic comedy ‘Poor Things’, which won five prizes overall.

Da’Vine Joy Randolph won the supporting actress prize for her role in ‘The Holdovers’, a comedy set in a boys’ boarding school.

‘Oppenheimer’ triumphs at BAFTA Film Awards

LONDON: ‘Oppenheimer’, a three-hour epic about the making of the atomic bomb during World War Two, was the big...

www.brecorder.com

If this movie had been made by any Muslim country... it would have been banned by International media.

 

[Champ_Pal]

If you are offended by a movie , then your faith is weak. Too many snowflakes in the world these days.

 

[Varun]

What is the proof of this 1 billion statistic?

 

[CricketCartoons]

If you are offended by a movie , then your faith is weak. Too many snowflakes in the world these days.

I would say if you are not offended, your faith is weak.

World doesn't care about people who are not offended.

 

[Romali_rotti]

It don't matter, those who are offended can skip the movie, the movie needs to be played without any censorship.

Has anyone been hurt or killed over this movie so far? I hope not

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I would say if you are not offended, your faith is weak.

World doesn't care about people who are not offended.

Exactly. It is a matter of gheirat and izzat.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Oscars 2024 updates: Oppenheimer sweeps the 96th Academy Awards​

Two of the biggest movies of 2023, Barbie and Oppenheimer, received Oscars for their achievements

This live page is now closed. For the night’s biggest highlights, check out Al Jazeera’s coverage here.

• The 96th Academy Awards took place at the Dolby Theatre in the United States city of Los Angeles, California, bringing together some of the biggest filmmakers in Hollywood.
• Christopher Nolan’s biopic Oppenheimer came into the ceremony with the most nominations: 13. It scooped up seven Oscars, with pivotal wins for Best Picture, Best Director and Best Supporting Actor.
• Poor Things grabbed four wins, while The Zone of Interest received two. Martin Scorsese’s Killers of the Flower Moon was shut out, despite earning 10 nominations.
• Cillian Murphy, Emma Stone, Da’Vine Joy Randolph and Robert Downey Jr won the acting categories.
• The buzzy summer blockbuster Barbie nabbed a single win – in the Best Song category.

Source : Al Jazeera