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"Our power-hitters are capable of hitting around 45 runs off the last 4 overs" : Mohammad Rizwan

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"Our power-hitters are capable of hitting around 45 runs off the last 4 overs" : Mohammad Rizwan

M. Rizwan after winning the match yesterday said, that the batting line up is deep and can easily score around 45 to 50 runs in the last 4 overs.


"We know our strengths, we have depth in our batting, we have power-hitters who are capable of hitting around 45 runs off the last four overs. So we didn't panic."

I do no really agree as it was the innings at no 4 by Nawaz that changed the game. Khushdil was struggling and Asif did manage a couple of hits but 30 plus runs is too much for him.
 
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If Shadab + Iftti Chacha + Khushdil + Asif cannot score 5 of last 4, then wats the point of 3 of 4 to be in the team

i would still like to see Shaan Massod at no4 ( scratch tht) i would like to drop fakhar and play Shaan Massod at no3 ...

Hassan Ali should not even be selected in 30z rather than last 15 ....
 
The only problem with our strategy is that it relies on one of Babar and Rizwan to carry the team to the 14th -15th over. Basically, the one flaw i see is that there is not enough trust in number 3 and 4.
 
But is it fair to put so much pressure on these big hitters?
 
But is it fair to put so much pressure on these big hitters?

You've gotta be kidding me. What are the power-hitters there for then? To make sure the team can score 5-6 off the last 3 overs?
 
You've gotta be kidding me. What are the power-hitters there for then? To make sure the team can score 5-6 off the last 3 overs?

I meant Pakistani Power hitters! These guys are good for 10 runs off 3 balls but not for the 45 off 5 overs - they dont last that long.
 
But is it fair to put so much pressure on these big hitters?

I think coming in around the 15th is basically their role so there should not be too much pressure. The way Asif and Khushdil played in the first game vs India was unacceptable to be honest. They just need to pick which balls to hit.

Yea if they came in at the 18th-19th over than definitely it puts a lot of pressure on them.
 
I still feel that there should be more urgency and intent in the first 10 overs as they are leaving too much to do in the last few overs which is a high-risk policy.

This save wickets and score heavily in the last 5 overs policy will only work sometimes.
 
the problem with the strategy is that their is no plan B, if riz and babar are out early. shan and haider should be 3 and 4, its not like ifti chacha is being used as an all rounder.
 
I still feel that there should be more urgency and intent in the first 10 overs as they are leaving too much to do in the last few overs which is a high-risk policy.

This save wickets and score heavily in the last 5 overs policy will only work sometimes.

It's a 90s era strategy of start slow, consolidate and go big at the end.

In a chase of 180, we were 19-0 after the first 3 overs. There really has to be more urgency than this in the PP. It seems we're happy with 40-0 or 40-1 after 6 overs.
 
I don’t think this is a fair assessment by Rizwan if he thinks that Khushdil and Asif can hit that consistently. They are extremely unreliable and Khushdil is not even able to hit from ball one.
 
I don’t think this is a fair assessment by Rizwan if he thinks that Khushdil and Asif can hit that consistently. They are extremely unreliable and Khushdil is not even able to hit from ball one.

Name one hitter in the world who is reliable? The job of power-hitting is inherently high-risk.
 
the problem with the strategy is that their is no plan B, if riz and babar are out early. shan and haider should be 3 and 4, its not like ifti chacha is being used as an all rounder.

Ifti chacha is good enough imo. I don't think Shan is a clear upgrade over him.
Haider though can greatly add to this team.
 
My point is / was on a flat deck you cant be scoring 19 runs in the first 3 overs. Its always the same approach for the first 10 overs. In a pressure cooker game coming in with the RRR at 12 for the last 5 is too much.

Also it was Nawaz not the lower order that played the crucial role.
 
It's a 90s era strategy of start slow, consolidate and go big at the end.

In a chase of 180, we were 19-0 after the first 3 overs. There really has to be more urgency than this in the PP. It seems we're happy with 40-0 or 40-1 after 6 overs.

Reminds me of the 1992 World Cup approach. Bat slowly at the start. keep wickets and then go crazy in the last 10 overs of the innings.

I don't like the approach, it's fraught with danger and our so-called power hitters are hardly world-beaters.
 
Reminds me of the 1992 World Cup approach. Bat slowly at the start. keep wickets and then go crazy in the last 10 overs of the innings.

I don't like the approach, it's fraught with danger and our so-called power hitters are hardly world-beaters.

Agree, also if the pitch is flat they need to take advantage of it (during the 1st six overs).
 
Its very hard to do so. You need set batsmen

Khushdil shah takes his time before hitting..iftikhar ahmad also likes to get into the match.

Asif ali has the ability to hit sixes from ball 1. He cant do that but his issue is he cant rotate strike he can only strike.
 
It's a 90s era strategy of start slow, consolidate and go big at the end.

In a chase of 180, we were 19-0 after the first 3 overs. There really has to be more urgency than this in the PP. It seems we're happy with 40-0 or 40-1 after 6 overs.

However as the innings progresses, rizwan strikes more.

The old strategy was basically top order couldnt strike sixes and needed these others to strike for them.

Rizwan and babar do well in chases, the argument could be that when setting a target they are always 10-15 runs short
 
Agree, also if the pitch is flat they need to take advantage of it (during the 1st six overs).

Absolutely.

Why settle for 40 from 6 overs when with a little more aggression and urgency you could reach 50 to 55.
 
I don’t think the comparisons to 90s era are valid. Both openers score at a healthy sr with more risk free cricket giving us a platform to work on. If they scored at sr 100 I would see the point but they don’t. They are just slightly below the SR of our hitters hence why this slightly lower SR is easier made up due to wickets in hand/ platform.

I haven’t seen many games in t20 where Pakistan’s batsmen are forced to hit out because the openers have been too slow.

I have seen plenty of times especially in ODIs where batsmen forget about scoring fast and just focus on staying in. Rizwan and Babar are good at staying in but they are always actively scoring and rotating strike.

Rizwan and Babars biggest flaws are not being able to accelerate once set. Hence they are too reliant on the lower order to do that. But they hardly ever put us on a slow start. It’s more the end of their innings they are weaker, not the beginning which they are usually fantastic at.
 
Rizwan is right.

45 runs in 4 overs is quite gettable even for associates. Pakistan have enough firepower to score 50-55 runs in 4 overs.
 
Guys any update regarding his fitness? I heard Khushdil will keep the wicket in case reports are not good?
 
Quite a conservative statement. Don’t think any team will be shaking in their boots reading this. This is the norm in T20s. At least round it up to 50!
 
its sad thats the format pakistan takes most serious.

and by the way 12 13 rpo is normal in last 5.
 
I still feel that there should be more urgency and intent in the first 10 overs as they are leaving too much to do in the last few overs which is a high-risk policy.

This save wickets and score heavily in the last 5 overs policy will only work sometimes.

A very outdated and risky approach. Disappointing to see our team still stuck in the 90s era.
 
Asif ali has the ability to hit sixes from ball 1. He cant do that but his issue is he cant rotate strike he can only strike.

Why does he need to have the ability to rotate strike if his sole job in the side is to hit sixes?

What a confusing thing to say
 
Frankly the concept of power hitters in T20s only exists in Pakistan. No other team in the world leaves it for the last 5-6 overs.

All other teams have aggressive batsmen from 1-6/7.
 
Why does he need to have the ability to rotate strike if his sole job in the side is to hit sixes?

What a confusing thing to say

Not every ball can be hit for six. The idea should be to keep the score ticking even on good deliveries. Dot balls in death overs are criminal and more often than not create way too much pressure on the side.
 
Why does he need to have the ability to rotate strike if his sole job in the side is to hit sixes?

What a confusing thing to say

Im not surprised that you are confused.
 
Im not surprised that you are confused.

Well you have made a very confusing claim

Why are Misbah fans intent on wanting aggressive six hitters turn into something they do not need to?
 
It’s not fair on the middle/lower order. Yes the job is to go and attack. However they do need a little bit of time in the middle. Hardly get any exposure are expected to go from ball one. If we get to 10 overs without loosing a wicket we should send the hitters in
 
sure 45 off 4 overs is great but can they get 24 off 16 balls :viv_thinking
 
M. Rizwan after winning the match yesterday said, that the batting line up is deep and can easily score around 45 to 50 runs in the last 4 overs.


"We know our strengths, we have depth in our batting, we have power-hitters who are capable of hitting around 45 runs off the last four overs. So we didn't panic."

I do no really agree as it was the innings at no 4 by Nawaz that changed the game. Khushdil was struggling and Asif did manage a couple of hits but 30 plus runs is too much for him.
he is trying to justify his slow batting in batting power play; someone from management should give him a shut up call; need to put Pakistan's interests above personal interest
 
he is trying to justify his slow batting in batting power play; someone from management should give him a shut up call; need to put Pakistan's interests above personal interest

With bold statements like this, you would thing he is the PCB management
 
he is trying to justify his slow batting in batting power play; someone from management should give him a shut up call; need to put Pakistan's interests above personal interest

Amazing how you've twisted this. Today Rizwan failed and look what happened. We had to go against the odds chasing just 130.

Management are well aware that either he or Babar must bat deep for the team to win. Rizwan is playing according to plan and managing to be the best t20 batsman in the world in the process. If you don't get it that's your problem but lol at thinking he's being selfish.
 
Hope they will see now that PP is there to make use of the field placings. You cant leave too much for the end.

Also the so called hitters apart from a not so sure case Asif are not the hitters actually.
 
Amazing how you've twisted this. Today Rizwan failed and look what happened. We had to go against the odds chasing just 130.

Management are well aware that either he or Babar must bat deep for the team to win. Rizwan is playing according to plan and managing to be the best t20 batsman in the world in the process. If you don't get it that's your problem but lol at thinking he's being selfish.

Hmm no. Today showed that scoring so many at the end is too big a risk. Look at india, sl and even afghan team in the 1st six overs vs pak.

Pak bowling is just too good and thats the difference.
 
If Asif Ali and Khushdil can't get 10 runs an over in the last 5 overs then they shouldn't be in the team.
 
If Asif Ali and Khushdil can't get 10 runs an over in the last 5 overs then they shouldn't be in the team.

Let’s get one thing straight

Asif Ali is an extremely dangerous player with a worldwide reputation now. He plays wholeheartedly for the team and doesn’t care about the name of the bowler. He wants to hit sixes and bring down the required total as fast as possible.

His cameo’s in the last two games have been sooooo crucial.
 
Let’s get one thing straight

Asif Ali is an extremely dangerous player with a worldwide reputation now. He plays wholeheartedly for the team and doesn’t care about the name of the bowler. He wants to hit sixes and bring down the required total as fast as possible.

His cameo’s in the last two games have been sooooo crucial.

Agree, but he is the only one who might do it. On these wickets and for sure when chasing 130, you have to go hard first 6 overs.
 
Let’s get one thing straight

Asif Ali is an extremely dangerous player with a worldwide reputation now. He plays wholeheartedly for the team and doesn’t care about the name of the bowler. He wants to hit sixes and bring down the required total as fast as possible.

His cameo’s in the last two games have been sooooo crucial.

Agreed 100%.

However, I think Khushdil Shah is not half the player that Asif is and doesn't deserve to be in th team.
 
Let’s get one thing straight

Asif Ali is an extremely dangerous player with a worldwide reputation now. He plays wholeheartedly for the team and doesn’t care about the name of the bowler. He wants to hit sixes and bring down the required total as fast as possible.

His cameo’s in the last two games have been sooooo crucial.

Good post
 
The collective failure of Khushdil, Iftikhar and Asif Ali are worrying signs. Nawaz is the only one who's seen success in this tournament and he wasn't even considered a power hitter
 
The collective failure of Khushdil, Iftikhar and Asif Ali are worrying signs. Nawaz is the only one who's seen success in this tournament and he wasn't even considered a power hitter

What failure of Asif Ali?????

How many crunch games has he won for Pakistan in recent history?
 
What failure of Asif Ali?????

How many crunch games has he won for Pakistan in recent history?

In this tournment he hasn't won us anything. He's the only one out of the three that I would take to Australia though
 
Rizwan fans know how to speak his language

“Shift the blame on others and go under the radar”
 
Left far too much for too little.
Could have paced his innings better.
Asif and Khushdil will get all the blame but its unfair to them.
 
I knew at some point it would go wrong. The bowlers kept saving Pak, but at some point you get exposed.

After the 1st over by SL the RRR was just around 8 with 19 overs to go. In no time it went to 10 plus.

You cant play the PP like this.

Trophy was there for the taking but the openers have no clue.
 
These so called power hitters can only manage 15-20 runs not 40-60 none of them is even close to afridi or razzaq
 
Astonishingly pak continued with the same strategy throughout the tournament when it was very clear that from the beginning asif khushdil ifti are all incapable
 
Rizwan trying to pap off all responsibility onto others for his meek inns with these kind of statements so he can get a free ride himself.
 
Rizwan trying to pap off all responsibility onto others for his meek inns with these kind of statements so he can get a free ride himself.

Official spokesperson for PCB management

Who is giving him all of this authority? Where was this imposter when Pakistan truly were a no.1 T20 side?
 
You left them to score 70 off 30 on a pitch where it wasn't easy to slog from ball one.

Even the world's best powerhitters cannot be relied on in such a situation. I hope this defeat shakes up our outdated thinking.
 
Much easier to believe if he said they can fa-rt 45 times in 4 minutes.
 
You left them to score 70 off 30 on a pitch where it wasn't easy to slog from ball one.

Even the world's best powerhitters cannot be relied on in such a situation. I hope this defeat shakes up our outdated thinking.

So they scored around 100 of 90 in a T20 hahahaha. Criminal, score was only 170, not like 200 or anything.
 
So they scored around 100 of 90 in a T20 hahahaha. Criminal, score was only 170, not like 200 or anything.

Just had to take some painkillers as my head's hurting after that disaster :)) Honestly one of the worst run-chases of all time.
 
Fact is no team in the world can reliably chase 15 RPO 5 overs to go, no matter how many power hitters are in the bank. It just doesn't happen, not even for India or Australia, let alone Pakistan.
 
I knew at some point it would go wrong. The bowlers kept saving Pak, but at some point you get exposed.

After the 1st over by SL the RRR was just around 8 with 19 overs to go. In no time it went to 10 plus.

You cant play the PP like this.

Trophy was there for the taking but the openers have no clue.

They only hit 2 fours in the PP thats criminal.
 
Fact is no team in the world can reliably chase 15 RPO 5 overs to go, no matter how many power hitters are in the bank. It just doesn't happen, not even for India or Australia, let alone Pakistan.

Mike Hussey scored 74 off the last 5 overs against Pakistan in 2010 to win the semi final for Australia
 
"We need Rizwan to bat through the innings" is the new "Misbah has to play the way he does otherwise we'd collapse"

Both statements used to fool the viewers. The latter has been proven incorrect since Misbah's retirement and I hope the former is rubbished sooner than later.
 
Your lower order has to have players with different ability. You have to be good against variety of bowling. You will face slower balls, short balls, pacy yorkers, mystery spin et al. If you have weakness most types of bowling that is when you will be inconsistent. Not every lower order hitters are good against every types of ball. Both Andre Russell and Maxie have a weakness against leggies. A reason why Maxie indulges in reverse sweept. It is virtually impossible for batsman to walk in and take on any type of bowling. Today Hasaranga predicted the line and length of Pak players very well and used the off side cordon very well. You have to be a bit smart as well. Asif's success rate depends on what type of bowlers he faces. If he faces a medium pacer like Southee, Bhuvi he has good chance of succeeding against length balls. But yorker specialists or spinners he has lower percentage. So Pakistan needs another batsman to take on such bowlers.
 
They got a 10-0 head start without a single ball bowled as well

Exactly, should have gone for the jugular at this point, instead what do they do - let them off the hook with the tuk tuk approach :facepalm:
 
"We need Rizwan to bat through the innings" is the new "Misbah has to play the way he does otherwise we'd collapse"

Both statements used to fool the viewers. The latter has been proven incorrect since Misbah's retirement and I hope the former is rubbished sooner than later.

Not to mention that its such a flawed and regressive mindset. If the 10 other players aren't performing then fix it instead of leaving an individual to pretend he's some sort of lone warrior going down fighting.
 
Not to mention that its such a flawed and regressive mindset. If the 10 other players aren't performing then fix it instead of leaving an individual to pretend he's some sort of lone warrior going down fighting.

Exactly

Not sure if there were any lone warriors or the need for any of them in the team no.1 T20 team that was inherited by Misbah.
 
I thought Pakistan had grown out of this 90's mindset over the last couple of years, but this game was the perfect example of complacency and dinosaur mentality. Two wickets down, to let the rate climb intentionally to over 10 an over was criminally negligent.
 
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