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Pahalgam attack: At least 26 tourists died in the attack [UPDATE@ POST#963]

Hitman said:
Pinjre me'h reh kar sher bhi circus wala ho jata hain.
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He was a good PM for Pakistan. Apart from his social media shenanigans, he was doing what is good for their country. Evidently what is good for the country can conflict with their military.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
My own neutral unbiased analysis is that India is in complete panic and disarray. There are rumours of friendly fire incidents, they are pumping fake news of f16s, and major statesmen are openly calling out BJP and Modi.

I hope they don't take a rash decision in these moments of panic.
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Yes. I am also getting that vibe from them.

They are now like headless chickens. They don't know what to do. :inti
 
Bollywood songs are now banned in Pakistan…. Pakistani shaadis now without Bollywood songs, only kwaalis
 
globetrotter said:
My many Pakistani friend in dubai confirmed the fear is gripping in Pakistani peoples and politicians.

Today PSX also slumps over 3000 points over Indian action
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If this is true then you do not have Pakistani friends in a place as diverse as Dubai.
 
HalBass9 said:
If this is true then you do not have Pakistani friends in a place as diverse as Dubai.
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Majority of Pakistani living in their country thinks they are invincible and ahead of world, but the moment they left Pakistan they realise where they and their country is standing
 
globetrotter said:
Majority of Pakistani living in their country thinks they are invincible and ahead of world, but the moment they left Pakistan they realise where they and their country is standing
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No, the majority of Pakistanis didn’t leave chasing dreams, they left because their own government made them feel powerless, as if basic rights were a luxury, not a guarantee. That sense of being dispensable pushed many abroad, not unlike what drives millions of Indians to seek opportunity elsewhere. It's not ambition alone, it’s escape from systems that failed them.

But I failed to understand how any of that is relevant to your comment I have replied to.
 
HalBass9 said:
No, the majority of Pakistanis didn’t leave chasing dreams, they left because their own government made them feel powerless, as if basic rights were a luxury, not a guarantee. That sense of being dispensable pushed many abroad, not unlike what drives millions of Indians to seek opportunity elsewhere. It's not ambition alone, it’s escape from systems that failed them.

But I failed to understand how any of that is relevant to your comment I have replied to.
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U admitted it, exactly they left because of their own government. Therefore Pakistanis in dubai are not under military government pressure and they are expressing their real views in dubai
 

Exclusive: Air India sees Pakistan airspace ban costing it $600 million over 12 months, seeks aid​


NEW DELHI, May 1 (Reuters) - Air India expects to face around $600 million in additional costs if a ban from Pakistan's airspace lasts for a year, and has asked the federal government to compensate it for the hit, a company letter seen by Reuters shows.

Indian airlines are bracing for higher fuel costs and longer journey times after Pakistan shut its airspace to the country's carriers in a ***-for-tat retaliation following an attack on tourists in Kashmir last week.

Air India on April 27 asked the Indian government for a "subsidy model" proportionate to the economic hit, estimating a loss of more than 50 billion Indian rupees ($591 million) for each year the ban lasts, according to a letter sent by the airline to the Civil Aviation Ministry seen by Reuters.

"Subsidy for affected international flights is a good, verifiable and fair option ... the subsidy can be removed when the situation improves," the letter said.

"The impact on Air India is maximum due to airspace closure, due to additional fuel burn...additional crew."
Air India declined to comment. India's Civil Aviation Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Air India's letter was sent after the government asked its executives to assess the impact of the airspace ban on Indian carriers, said a source with direct knowledge of the matter.

The Tata Group-owned airline is in the midst of a multi-billion dollar turnaround after a period of government ownership, and growth is already constrained by jet delivery delays from Boeing and Airbus. It reported a net loss of $520 million in fiscal 2023-2024, on sales of $4.6 billion.

Air India, which has a 26.5% market share in India, flies to Europe, the United States and Canada, often crossing Pakistan's airspace. It operates many more long-haul routes than bigger domestic rival IndiGo.

Data from Cirium Ascend shows IndiGo, Air India and its budget unit Air India Express had roughly 1,200 flights combined from New Delhi scheduled for Europe, the Middle East and North America in April.

The Indian government is considering options to reduce the hit to the airline industry from the closure of Pakistan's airspace, three other people familiar with the matter said.

One of the sources said Indian carriers met with the Civil Aviation Ministry to work on possible solutions, including flying over difficult terrain closer to China, and some tax exemptions.

In its letter, Air India asked the government to liaise with Chinese authorities for certain overflight clearances, without elaborating.

It also asked the government to approve the carrying of extra pilots on flights on the United States and Canada to account for longer travel times.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...-600-million-over-12-months-seeks-2025-05-01/.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I think its over and we can all move on. @BouncerGuy @DeadlyVenom @Major @Devadwal @Rajdeep @Cpt. Rishwat @Suleiman

Caste census announcement has already diverted public attention from War hysteria to national politics.

PM Modi is a master at creating diversions. Hats off.
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That’s great brother, looking forward to more classic bollywood movie reviews from you. Things can go back to normal now. Ind v Pak period is over on TP (for now)

Now we can focus against the Yahud, our arch nemesis.
 
JaDed said:
Pak posters logic: What Pak Establishment will do to PTI Supporters they wont do to India.
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They used wired logic which no one understands expect themselves.

They haven't learnt the lesson from the history that Pakistan establishment is biggest enemy of Pakistan.

:kp
 
Suleiman said:
Not saying the above isn’t a possibility, but Patrick Bet David is a massive clown and shill. Would never take anything he says as serious. He runs a pyramid scheme in the US so you can tell where his morality lies.
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Yes I just posted it.

Pat David, Joe Rogan etc all have been doing propaganda for Elon and Trump.
 
Suleiman said:
Not saying the above isn’t a possibility, but Patrick Bet David is a massive clown and shill. Would never take anything he says as serious. He runs a pyramid scheme in the US so you can tell where his morality lies.
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@IndoorCricket also put this theory forward but backtracked as soon as I pointed out that if China was the mastermind, that just showed India's cowardice in going after Pakistan instead of the main perpetrators.
 
Rajdeep said:
One thing is for sure, if India attacks Pakistan and a war breaks out, most countries around the world will either be neutral fence sitters or align with India due to its economic might. The only hope is China but I have my doubt they will interfere as it will mean Amreekans, NATO and Israel will be behind them who is looking for an opportunity to attack China. The fake bravado some of the Pak posters are showing here is astounding. Pak establishment understands it as well and hence trying their best to de escalate the situation. The latest comment of Pak minister about them doing dirty job of USA didnt go down well with white house either. Pakistan is actually walking on a slippery slope but their posters are acting tough sitting behind computer screen from Britain. J&K lene ke chakkar me kahi PoK na chala jaaye...zara dhyan rakhe.

:kp
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They are definitely not the ones putting on fake bravado, lol. You are treating this like an India vs Pakistan cricket match, but the ground reality is very different, even the Indian government knows it. That is why Modi and his band party are busy blocking YouTube channels and doing other ridiculous things. :rabada2

Yet to see a strong response from BJP. 'Khoda pahad, nikli chuhiya' fits the BJP and their blind followers perfectly. :afridi

And you too are from Britain, aren't you? :kp :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
They are definitely not the ones putting on fake bravado, lol. You are treating this like an India vs Pakistan cricket match, but the ground reality is very different, even the Indian government knows it. That is why Modi and his band party are busy blocking YouTube channels and doing other ridiculous things. :rabada2

Yet to see a strong response from BJP. 'Khoda pahad, nikli chuhiya' fits the BJP and their blind followers perfectly. :afridi

And you too are from Britain, aren't you? :kp :inti
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Any idea why this chap is looking so happy that India hasn't attacked Pakistan back?

@Devadwal

:kp
 
IndoorCricket said:
Again, you have any proof of Indian soliders targetting specifically non-Hindus? Is it similar to how you yapped about Indias invovlemnt in Baloch incident.
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Years ago I posted Amnesty international's official reports of mass raping Muslim women and killing Kashmiris in Kashmir. All documented with dates, names, year. Page upon page. I posted it to your pal cricketjoshila.

Guess how many Indians reported to it?
 
This is a sad incident but the people who did havent even been caught and they blamed Pakistan.

Anyways, i doubt India would do anything after the Balakot embarrassment. Just ban some celeb insta accounts and punish local kashmiris etc.
 
Rajdeep said:
Any idea why this chap is looking so happy that India hasn't attacked Pakistan back?

@Devadwal

:kp
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Upset that war hasn't broken out yet? Looks like our Nakli Bihari Babu is eager to see India and Pakistan at war. I am just exposing the hypocrisy and fake bravado of the BJP and andhbhakhts. Why does that bother you, lol? :inti
 
ethan hunt said:
This is a sad incident but the people who did havent even been caught and they blamed Pakistan.

Anyways, i doubt India would do anything after the Balakot embarrassment. Just ban some celeb insta accounts and punish local kashmiris etc.
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For over a decade, they’ve been steadily laying the groundwork to divert Pakistan’s water, all they needed was a justification to say it out loud. Now they’ve manufactured one.

And when their own Supreme Court blocked the investigation into the Phalgham judicial commission, the message couldn’t be clearer, the goal was never justice, it was timing.
 
HalBass9 said:
And when their own Supreme Court blocked the investigation into the Phalgham judicial commission, the message couldn’t be clearer, the goal was never justice, it was timing.
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I propose giving Halbass9 the Sherlock holmes award for this brilliant piece of deduction. The logic is unbeatable :facepalm:
 
Just ask yourself, why wouldn’t SC want to find out what had happened in Phalgham? Lol
 
HalBass9 said:
I get it, SC India isn’t as independent as it made out to be to y’all.
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HalBass9 said:
Just ask yourself, why wouldn’t SC want to find out what had happened in Phalgham? Lol
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Only explanation I can think of is it was a false flag/an inside job.

Otherwise, why wouldn't SC want to resolve this, unless they were asked by government to not to? :inti

Keep in mind, they are yet to find the attackers. Are they that incompetent that they can't find the attackers after all these days?
 
I honestly think there won't be a conflict (well hope so anyway)..

Indian navy drills right in Pakistan's backyard has intensified from what I am hearing the turbulent neighbourhood is starting to affect the Karachi Stock Exchange..

India should just keep this going, it will hurt the Pak economy which is already on life support more this continues.

No need for physical confrontation...
 
Yalda Hakim is smart. Her family was in Pakistan for a brief period while they fled war in Afghanistan. Glad they didn't stop in Pakistan where she would have been a nobody in a garb. Now she is exposing Pakistan and their terrorism track record. What's smarter is that she's the letting it out of the guest..
 
Romali_rotti said:
I honestly think there won't be a conflict (well hope so anyway)..

Indian navy drills right in Pakistan's backyard has intensified from what I am hearing the turbulent neighbourhood is starting to affect the Karachi Stock Exchange..

India should just keep this going, it will hurt the Pak economy which is already on life support more this continues.

No need for physical confrontation...
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Another endorsement of India's long term policy of damaging Pakistan, and also an endorsement of why such false flag operations could be explained.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Another endorsement of India's long term policy of damaging Pakistan, and also an endorsement of why such false flag operations could be explained.
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A few random examples

- Masood Azhars friends hijack an Indian airlines with international citizens, holds them hostage and got him released from Indian Jail, now he is living safely in Pakistan - check,

- Kargil Attack - Pakistan denies being involved at first then years after admits they were responsible - check,

- My Favourite: Osama Bin Laden living as the guest of honor in the Pakistani army base, Pakistanis deny at first then their army admits housing him - check

- Mumbai terror attack again Pakistanis deny at first, cry victim and then Najim Sethi went to Kasab's village in Pakistan and confirms this was a Pakistan planned terror attack...


As we can see Pakistanis are always the victim and everything connected to them in any bad manner is a false flag 🙄 . Start the trouble and when you get a retaliation cry victim :sanga
 
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Romali_rotti said:
A few random examples

- Masood Azhars friends hijack an Indian airlines with international citizens, holds them hostage and got him released from Indian Jail, now he is living safely in Pakistan - check,

- Kargil Attack - Pakistan denies being involved at first then years after admits they were responsible - check,

- My Favourite: Osama Bin Laden living as the guest of honor in the Pakistani army base, Pakistanis deny at first then their army admits housing him - check

- Mumbai terror attack again Pakistanis deny at first, cry victim and then Najim Sethi went to Kasab's village in Pakistan and confirms this was a Pakistan planned terror attack...


As we can see Pakistanis are always the victim and everything connected to them in any bad manner is a false flag 🙄 . Start the trouble and when you get a retaliation cry victim :sanga
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All those examples helped the hindutva cause and they certainly made full political capital of it. The OBL one helped USA aims. Pakistan did not benefit from any of them. I hope you realise that I am not assigning blame here, maybe Pakistan's aim has always been to help the cause of hindutvas and the west to achieve their goals. I have no idea.
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
All those examples helped the hindutva cause and they certainly made full political capital of it. The OBL one helped USA aims. Pakistan did not benefit from any of them. I hope you realise that I am not assigning blame here, maybe Pakistan's aim has always been to help the cause of hindutvas and the west to achieve their goals. I have no idea.
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Yes Cap, agree Poor Pakistan always the victim 😢...
 
IndoorCricket said:
Jihadis are perpetual Victims. How can they be anything else when their god sent religion is perfect and all muslims are followers of this perfect religion. Surely it has to be something/ someone else.
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Romali_rotti said:
Yes Cap, agree Poor Pakistan always the victim 😢...
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But I have not blamed anyone, there is nothing here about victims or perpetrators. I merely used your own words which describe which party benefits. I did not even say Pakistan was blameless. Instead of debating this, you have both resorted to name calling like "jihadis".
 
I have spoken to many Pakistanis (Birmingham UK) and they all are hurling abuse towads the Pakistani army even more than before and less than at Indian.

The Pak army are tryiong to unite the nation and change public opinion by using the "India is the enemy" card and it's not working.
 
bones said:
I have spoken to many Pakistanis (Birmingham UK) and they all are hurling abuse towads the Pakistani army even more than before and less than at Indian.

The Pak army are tryiong to unite the nation and change public opinion by using the "India is the enemy" card and it's not working.
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They are not reflective of the sentiments of all Pakistanis they should focus on cleaning bins in Birmingham rather than curse the army that is remaining steadfast in front of Indian threats.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They are not reflective of the sentiments of all Pakistanis they should focus on cleaning bins in Birmingham rather than curse the army that is remaining steadfast in front of Indian threats.
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They aren't - but the hatred towards the Pak army isn't easily removed given what they have and keep doing. I don't want war, because every single time we have it, we lose. Our generals are busy making their billions instead of doing what they should be.
 
bones said:
They aren't - but the hatred towards the Pak army isn't easily removed given what they have and keep doing. I don't want war, because every single time we have it, we lose. Our generals are busy making their billions instead of doing what they should be.
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Agreed. No war it will be disastrous for all involved but this current situation has been initiated by the Indian side. There is not much we can blame the generals for here.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
But I have not blamed anyone, there is nothing here about victims or perpetrators. I merely used your own words which describe which party benefits. I did not even say Pakistan was blameless. Instead of debating this, you have both resorted to name calling like "jihadis".
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This is your post in other thread

"Sikh and Hindu terrorists used to do this during partition, it is well documented. This is what leads many to believe this was a false flag attack in Pahalgam, as they are well known tactics of polytheists who believe every action can be justified by a different god, as they worship gods of vengeance and death as well as mercy."

You grouped all polytheists and called them terrorists. You are a hyporcrite of highest order. Everyone can see what you are. A Jihadi.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Agreed. No war it will be disastrous for all involved but this current situation has been initiated by the Indian side. There is not much we can blame the generals for here.
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We are not prepared for war, we have never been because our generals are too busy making money. There is a reason why we've never won a battle of significance.

The Indians are pretty reckless right now, going into war over a terror attack is not the right move. But we need to get our house in order and it'll never ever be with these generals lining their own pockets.
 
IndoorCricket said:
This is your post in other thread

"Sikh and Hindu terrorists used to do this during partition, it is well documented. This is what leads many to believe this was a false flag attack in Pahalgam, as they are well known tactics of polytheists who believe every action can be justified by a different god, as they worship gods of vengeance and death as well as mercy."

You grouped all polytheists and called them terrorists. You are a hyporcrite of highest order. Everyone can see what you are. A Jihadi.
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I don't lightly throw around words like terrorists, but when you are using these terms I am just using your language.

I did not call polytheists terrorists even in that quote. Your deliberate twisting of words and contexts only exposes your lack of honesty and malicious intent towards all Muslims.
 
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DeadlyVenom said:
They are not reflective of the sentiments of all Pakistanis they should focus on cleaning bins in Birmingham rather than curse the army that is remaining steadfast in front of Indian threats.
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Birmingham bins makes me emotional brother...especially since my thread on bins got binned. 😣
 
bones said:
We are not prepared for war, we have never been because our generals are too busy making money. There is a reason why we've never won a battle of significance.

The Indians are pretty reckless right now, going into war over a terror attack is not the right move. But we need to get our house in order and it'll never ever be with these generals lining their own pockets.
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Two separate issues. Not many Pakistanis trust the Generals, but they can't be held responsible for BJP policy of bleeding Pakistan through a thousand cuts. Unless you think the Generals are part of that and taking backhanders from India.

Other than that, the Pakistan govt and military should be held to account on how they deal with the pressure India is putting them under.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That was in reply to your post "All hinuds should have bias against Muslims. Its the Islamic terrorists who check if you are a Hindu and then kill you"

I don't lightly throw around words like terrorists, but when you are using these terms I am just using your language.

I did not call polytheists terrorists even in that quote. Your deliberate twisting of words and contexts only exposes your lack of honesty and malicious intent towards all Muslims.
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"These are well known tactics of polytheists who believe every action can be justified by a different god." What act are you talking about here? The acts done by Hindus and Sikhs (who are ploytheists) in the name of gods whom you called terrorists. You are not fooling anyone.

Even in Nigeria, Chirstians were targeted and killed recently. And who are the victim here? Ofcourse its the muslim. Thats the hypocracy of muslims. Always the victims.
 
IndoorCricket said:
"These are well known tactics of polytheists who believe every action can be justified by a different god." What act are you talking about here? The acts done by Hindus and Sikhs (who are ploytheists) in the name of gods whom you called terrorists. You are not fooling anyone.

Even in Nigeria, Chirstians were targeted and killed recently. And who are the victim here? Ofcourse its the muslim. Thats the hypocracy of muslims. Always the victims.
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The same acts of checking for circumcision which were carried out at Pahalgam were also carried out by Hindus and Sikhs during partition. I don't really see why I need to repeat everything because you keep quoting selectively, leaving the relevant parts out.

Polytheists do have gods of violence and destruction. Do you deny it?
 
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