Pahalgam attack: At least 26 tourists died in the attack [UPDATE@ POST#963]

[sweep_shot]

Careful, instead of engaging and winning in air to air combat the IAF simps will send yet another AI generated image of them disturbing the asphalt of some runway or scratching the roof hangar

If sanghis think they won, why do they have to mention it over and over? LOL.

They are still trying to convince others they won.

 

[uppercut]

If sanghis think they won, why do they have to mention it over and over? LOL.

They are still trying to convince others they won.

Is that why you run legs tail between when you see this image ? Might first want to build enough intestinal fortitude before trying to troll ... considering that it was the Indian Army that saved your bacon once upon a time ... lol

 

[straighttalk]

I’m not sure why you are using words like Dada since I did not use that word. Neither side is a Dada here since both sides had losses.

You are correct that India struck Pakistani airfield sites and did damage but some of your claims are unsubstantiated. For example, there is no credible evidence that India struck Pakistani nuclear sites.

Your language is also exaggerated by saying, ‘India attacked nuclear facilities and almost all Crown Jewels of Pakistan’. The scope of damage, while impactful, was limited to specific nodes, not the entire system. Hyperbolic statement!

Similarly to say that ‘the air defence system was completely neutralised’ is again an exaggeration and unproven.

Btw, with Pakistan getting the J-35s from China, it will gain air superiority in the region and it will be a while before India gets a 5th gen fighter, with its own indigenous AMCA years away and no other credible option. The SU-57 is no 5th gen and India walked away from that itself and the F-35 will take years as there are other customers ahead of the queue and it will come with conditions.

Your points are fair but su57 is superior to anything that China will produce and both are inferior to F35. J35 though is a big advantage for Pakistan..that is a given...but honestly given India's scale if that advantage is used decisively against India...there are ways to neutralize their usage without shooting them down in the sky. It will be uncharted territory for sure as most of the time India has always dominated escalation ladder and if J35s provide air superiority to PAF..India has to play catch up by escalating beyond what they would have liked...but allowing that to happen would be political suicide for Modi or whoever else is in power.

 

[Patriot]

Your points are fair but su57 is superior to anything that China will produce and both are inferior to F35. J35 though is a big advantage for Pakistan..that is a given...but honestly given India's scale if that advantage is used decisively against India...there are ways to neutralize their usage without shooting them down in the sky. It will be uncharted territory for sure as most of the time India has always dominated escalation ladder and if J35s provide air superiority to PAF..India has to play catch up by escalating beyond what they would have liked...but allowing that to happen would be political suicide for Modi or whoever else is in power.

I don’t think we can make claims that the Su57 is superior at this time. However, most analysts don’t even consider it stealth. Still to be seen how the Chinese platforms perform.

 

[Kriketer]

So their Terrorist clown minister in the parliament says things like they found Pakistani chocolates from the so called captured culprits, and made claims of IDs that don't even exist in Pakistan?

This sounds as bad as the Mumbai stooge culprit who had a thick UP accent lol. What kind of fools India got in their parliament and awaam? Cow leftover diet sure sounds real among masses when they fall for such idiotic comics

 

[straighttalk]

I don’t think we can make claims that the Su57 is superior at this time. However, most analysts don’t even consider it stealth. Still to be seen how the Chinese platforms perform.

Su57 is not as stealthy as f35...but it is pretty stealthy...you also have to consider price too...the Chinese comment is just based on Russian legacy of technological superiority and the fact that many Chinese jets are based on Russian technology...manufacturing and resources wise China is far ahead now

 

[Patriot]

Su57 is not as stealthy as f35...but it is pretty stealthy...you also have to consider price too...the Chinese comment is just based on Russian legacy of technological superiority and the fact that many Chinese jets are based on Russian technology...manufacturing and resources wise China is far ahead now

True but the Chinese have surpassed the Russians. For example their J-16 is superior to the Su-30 it is based on and now their 5th gen planes are even more advanced like the J-20. Don’t underestimate the Chinese and think their tech is behind. They are looking to compete with the US now.

The Su-57 will get picked up by modern 4.5 gen planes with AESA radars unlike the F-35.

 

[straighttalk]

True but the Chinese have surpassed the Russians. For example their J-16 is superior to the Su-30 it is based on and now their 5th gen planes are even more advanced like the J-20. Don’t underestimate the Chinese and think their tech is behind. They are looking to compete with the US now.

The Su-57 will get picked up by modern 4.5 gen planes with AESA radars unlike the F-35.

I think we both have our biases...not underestimating Chinese capability but you refine your processes over time and that takes years .. you can reach 80-90 percent or capability fairly quickly but the last 10 percent is harder..that's all. You might be right but I would still put my bet on Russian technology until it's proven otherwise. Not saying you are wrong...but we both don't have any data to back us up.

 

[straighttalk]

So their Terrorist clown minister in the parliament says things like they found Pakistani chocolates from the so called captured culprits, and made claims of IDs that don't even exist in Pakistan?

This sounds as bad as the Mumbai stooge culprit who had a thick UP accent lol. What kind of fools India got in their parliament and awaam? Cow leftover diet sure sounds real among masses when they fall for such idiotic comics

You might be correct on the first paragraph but lost it on the second one when your govt has all but admitted to Mumbai attack