Pakistan’s T20 top order v watching paint dry: what’s more entertaining?

[fight_club]

Who is that enforcer? It’s a simple question, I don’t understand why we need paragraphs with no substance to answer this. Tell me who this enforcer is and provide the stats.

Why are you getting so defensive?? I am not PCB chairmen and can only speak on Whatever material at hand, I didn't see you coming up with Rizwan dot ball figures

Once pakistan start thinking of finding a good opener rather than middle order things will change

 

[Gayle_Force]

Stopped reading here.

It's pretty ridiculous when people suggest a Pakistani Lance Klusener is being robbed of his career because of Babar and Rizwan. When you ask about power hitters they claim 'Sharjeel' and 'Haider' and we really don't need to go into that any further.

Try football.

Exactly, the person complaining about Babar’s 50 of 41 is suggesting that Haider Ali is the solution who has a SR of 94 in the Eng series so far and a career T20 SR of 131 (which includes domestic matches). That’s our enforcer.

 

[fight_club]

Stopped reading here.

It's pretty ridiculous when people suggest a Pakistani Lance Klusener is being robbed of his career because of Babar and Rizwan. When you ask about power hitters they claim 'Sharjeel' and 'Haider' and we really don't need to go into that any further.

Try football.

Tried but failed since I have better grasp and experience of cricket.

You need to pick up talent and persist with them and even develop them, This lad has all the tools the issue is not "Better" batsmen but just effective opener who can add a new dimension

Hope to see you Manchester united soon

 

[fight_club]

Exactly, the person complaining about Babar’s 50 of 41 is suggesting that Haider Ali is the solution who has a SR of 94 in the Eng series so far and a career T20 SR of 131 (which includes domestic matches). That’s our enforcer.

Pathetic and selective stats paddling shows you are on a week wicket, People who understand cricket knows you need to nurture talent and be patience. Sample his debut match in England, What was his and Babar strike rate in PP in that match??

You can keep on defending mr 160, Pakistan will go no where

 

[Gayle_Force]

Why are you getting so defensive?? I am not PCB chairmen and can only speak on Whatever material at hand, I didn't see you coming up with Rizwan dot ball figures

Once pakistan start thinking of finding a good opener rather than middle order things will change

I am not getting defensive, I am simply asking for solutions for the problem you are identifying. You can only pick from the talent available to you. You say we need an enforcer and I would love to have a Warner or a Butler open for us but when I ask you who from Pakistan can play that role, your answer is Haider Ali. When I look at Haider stats including his domestic they don’t back this up.

 

[Gayle_Force]

Pathetic and selective stats paddling shows you are on a week wicket, People who understand cricket knows you need to nurture talent and be patience. Sample his debut match in England, What was his and Babar strike rate in PP in that match??

You can keep on defending mr 160, Pakistan will go no where

What selective stat paddling? I welcome you to provide any stats that back up your claim that Haider Ali is an enforcer. I would happily accept and root for Haider Ali as the enforcer if you are able to support your claim.

 

[Rana]

Why are you getting so defensive?? I am not PCB chairmen and can only speak on Whatever material at hand, I didn't see you coming up with Rizwan dot ball figures

Once pakistan start thinking of finding a good opener rather than middle order things will change

I find it strange how this poster is here trying to argue that our top 3 is more entertaining than watching paint dry

We as Pakistani cricket fans are a lost cause

 

[Gayle_Force]

I find it strange how this poster is here trying to argue that our top 3 is more entertaining than watching paint dry

We as Pakistani cricket fans are a lost cause

Yep we truly are a lost cause when fans suggest that the solution to our opening problems are Sharjeel and Haider Ali. When asked to provide stats to back up they will provide one odd match in which they did well.

How hard is it for fans to back up their claims with numbers? If we can’t do that and simply want to base our claims on personal liking and disliking then we are really doomed as a fan base.

 

[Rana]

Yep we truly are a lost cause when fans suggest that the solution to our opening problems are Sharjeel and Haider Ali. When asked to provide stats to back up they will provide one odd match in which they did well.

How hard is it for fans to back up their claims with numbers? If we can’t do that and simply want to base our claims on personal liking and disliking then we are really doomed as a fan base.

I’ve given you a chance to be fair

You didn’t take it.

No more discussion with you either on this subject. Enjoy watching cricket the way it is being served to us

 

[Gayle_Force]

I’ve given you a chance to be fair

You didn’t take it.

No more discussion with you either on this subject. Enjoy watching cricket the way it is being served to us

I have been nothing but open to discussion with you but anytime you are challenged you run away. On what part have I made an unfair attempt at a discussion?

I don’t have anything against you, mostly I differ with you on the subject of Sharjeel being in the team. In all aspects he does not seem to provide an improvement on our current opening pair at least based on stats imo.

As far as opening goes I would be happy to change it up, if we have better options. I currently don’t see one, however, players like Saim Ayub and Shahibzada Farhan maybe ones to look out for in near future.

 

[fight_club]

I am not getting defensive, I am simply asking for solutions for the problem you are identifying. You can only pick from the talent available to you. You say we need an enforcer and I would love to have a Warner or a Butler open for us but when I ask you who from Pakistan can play that role, your answer is Haider Ali. When I look at Haider stats including his domestic they don’t back this up.

What selective stat paddling? I welcome you to provide any stats that back up your claim that Haider Ali is an enforcer. I would happily accept and root for Haider Ali as the enforcer if you are able to support your claim.

Since you love debates

1. What are stats of Phil salt in the international cricket and before yesterday game in this series?

2. Do players like warner, butler just drop from tree or they are selected based on some potential
then they are given fair chance, support and technical assistance if they see "Talent" in them

3. Batsmen like Rohit sharma has changed their game to focus on strike rate post WC debacle, why?

4. Have you seen Pakistan "Thinktank" shown any inclination to search for "Enforcer" like openers
because they have exhausted all other options?

You may not realize that your statement themselves shows lack of understanding or ignorance but, I will give you another chance

 

[TheSultan]

We are a month away from World Cup can the team really afford to do large scale experiments? Most team at this stage are making adjustments only where there is room for improvements. No one is completely changing approach at this stage of the game. Take England for example they lost games 4 & 5, which they should have won, because of their all out attack approach. Did they change their approach to try something new? No, they kept the same approach in game 6 because that’s how they play.

Similar situation for Pakistan we can’t make large scale changes at this stage. People said we need our openers to score faster and both Babar and Rizwan have done it this series with a 140+ strike rate. The problem is the middle order which is struggling to keep up the momentum. That’s the area where players need to step up.

Of course you can afford to try different things. What disaster would happen if they did? What disaster would happen if Babar and Rizwan adopted a slightly riskier approach in a few of those matches to challenge themselves to target 70 in a powerplay? What disaster would happen if they put both of them down to no3 and 4 in the order. We would lose the series - ok, we may lose the series anyway.

The way we’re going, we may actually be forced to flip the batting order in a panic during the World Cup if we lose a few matches. At least if we tried now, we would have an idea of who may be able to fill that void. I don’t understand the rigidity in thinking that some calamity will befall us if we try anything new.

If you’re not going to experiment now then when will you?

England may not have changed their all out attack, why should they? What’s the alternative? A bit of tuk tuk. It’s a ridiculous comparison. But what England have done is alternated their top 3 a few times this series. Most of their normal top 3 are not available anyway. Are they crying disaster? They are playing in the spirit of a pre-world cup set of games. We are playing gritted teeth, scared to lose mentality in every game in a non important pre World Cup series.

 

[Rana]

Of course you can afford to try different things. What disaster would happen if they did? What disaster would happen if Babar and Rizwan adopted a slightly riskier approach in a few of those matches to challenge themselves to target 70 in a powerplay? What disaster would happen if they put both of them down to no3 and 4 in the order. We would lose the series - ok, we may lose the series anyway.

The way we’re going, we may actually be forced to flip the batting order in a panic during the World Cup if we lose a few matches. At least if we tried now, we would have an idea of who may be able to fill that void. I don’t understand the rigidity in thinking that some calamity will befall us if we try anything new.

If you’re not going to experiment now then when will you?

England may not have changed their all out attack, why should they? What’s the alternative? A bit of tuk tuk. It’s a ridiculous comparison. But what England have done is alternated their top 3 a few times this series. Most of their normal top 3 are not available anyway. Are they crying disaster? They are playing in the spirit of a pre-world cup set of games. We are playing gritted teeth, scared to lose mentality in every game in a non important pre World Cup series.

This is because of Rameez Raja

He has told Babar Azam losing is not an option. Rameez needs the wins to make himself look like the best chairman in PCB history

 

[Gayle_Force]

Since you love debates

1. What are stats of Phil salt in the international cricket and before yesterday game in this series?

2. Do players like warner, butler just drop from tree or they are selected based on some potential
then they are given fair chance, support and technical assistance if they see "Talent" in them

3. Batsmen like Rohit sharma has changed their game to focus on strike rate post WC debacle, why?

4. Have you seen Pakistan "Thinktank" shown any inclination to search for "Enforcer" like openers
because they have exhausted all other options?

You may not realize that your statement themselves shows lack of understanding or ignorance but, I will give you another chance

What debates? I am asking you a simple question and you are taking it to a deeper discussion which I don’t disagree with. Should Pakistan have an ‘enforcer’ type opener. We definitely should. Should PCB be doing more to create and nurture such talent? Absolutely! In fact in this very thread I have said Saim Ayub and Sahibzada Farhan are players to look out for in near future.

Does Pakistan have a single player that can take on this role right now? In your opinion that player is Haider Ali. In my opinion, Haider Ali is no different and in fact inferior to Babar and Rizwan. Let’s just leave it at that. Also, you can keep your chance man, you seem to take this stuff way too seriously lol

 

[Kianig89]

Given the quality of players we have top order is miles ahead than our nonexistent middle order imagine if we had flamboyant top2 and they also collapsed at 15/2 & fragile hacks have to face the music and we might end up at 65/7 in 8 overs.

Since wt20 is upon us and only short term planning is possible so safe strategy is that if fit pick Haris Sohail, Fakhar Zaman & Imad Wasim in place of Haris Haider and Khushdil so the playing Xi is

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar
HSohail
Iftikhar
Nawaz
Asif
Shadab
Rauf
Naseem
Shaheen

 

[TheSultan]

Given the quality of players we have top order is miles ahead than our nonexistent middle order imagine if we had flamboyant top2 and they also collapsed at 15/2 & fragile hacks have to face the music and we might end up at 65/7 in 8 overs.

Since wt20 is upon us and only short term planning is possible so safe strategy is that if fit pick Haris Sohail, Fakhar Zaman & Imad Wasim in place of Haris Haider and Khushdil so the playing Xi is

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar
HSohail
Iftikhar
Nawaz
Asif
Shadab
Rauf
Naseem
Shaheen

Haris Sohail is actually a great shout. I didn’t know he was available. If he is, it’s a no brainer.

I like this line up, although I have serious doubts shaheen will be fit. I’m also not sure about Ifti, but it seems there’s no getting away from him. Someone or the other wants him in at all costs, then fine keep him in

 

[fight_club]

I find it strange how this poster is here trying to argue that our top 3 is more entertaining than watching paint dry

We as Pakistani cricket fans are a lost cause

it is helping them to learn

 

[Pakpak]

Haris opened yesterday 7 of 8 balls Haider was in within 3 overs and made 18 of 14. Yet the problem is Babar and Rizwan.

? Where have I said the problem is Babar and Rizwan

For me without them out batting line up ends up playing like duds. My point is for these series just try new players. Instead we see the same line up playing whether its vs Zimbabwe, Netherlands or Australia. Its ridiculous. Haris has now been dumped after 1 game.

This entire format the only time team who take it seriously is Pakistan. Noone even remember who won this joke of a WC in the last decade(!)

 

[MenInG]

 

[Rana]

Bara mazza aa raha hai…

 

[Suleiman]

We have the most selfish batsmen BY FAR.

They only care about their meaningless awfully paced 50s just for the sake of keeping their place in the team.

You can clearly see that’s what Shan and Khushdil are doing right now as they’re batting.

Our management as usual is too blind to see it. They too only care about runs without context. Stats without context mean nothing.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I guess for a middling team like Pakistan, most fans are rapturous about Babar and Rizwan combo. Pakistan might end up 20 to 25 runs short 70 percent of times but the bowling can still cover the deficit as we saw in those narrow 3 and 5 run wins for Pakistan.

The people who want Babar - Rizwan combo to be broken are looking at the "bigger picture". I can also safely say that with these two opening we WONT win the T20 World Cup. Eventually, they will botch a chase with their "cautious batting" or end up "a few runs short batting first".

But if the target is a respectable place in T20 world cup, I think Pakistan is on course.

Win? Meh. Not with this approach.

Quoted gain for truth.

 

[fight_club]

Paint win hands down

 

[PakPremi]

If only we saw Rizwan and Babar batted together today for long time.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

If only we saw Rizwan and Babar batted together today for long time.

They can't do that against any top level attack.

 

[Rana]

England 100-0 in 9 overs v Australia in their home

Can we see Pakistan doing this against Bangladesh at least in the next match with our top 3 of Babar/Rizwan/Shan ?

 

[pak.cricket]

England 100-0 in 9 overs v Australia in their home

Can we see Pakistan doing this against Bangladesh at least in the next match with our top 3 of Babar/Rizwan/Shan ?

Wo don't need to. Our Bowlers are good enough to defend 160-170 total. England,on the other hand, have a rubbish bowling line up. I won't be surprised if australia chase down whatever the total that is set by England.

 

[Jazx]

Pakistan are going with Babar, Rizwan and Shan Masood as their top 3 for the World Cup. I have been watching Pakistan cricket closely for nearly 20 years, I know all three of these players do not intend to play T20 cricket like the top 3 of most international teams. They focus more on quick singles and ground shots.

Fakhar Zaman and Muhammad Harris are in the traveling reserves, these are two good attacking players who are unlikely to feature for Pakistan in the World Cup.

So what is more entertaining? Our top 3 producing par/below par scores or watching paint dry?

Babar rizwan having a good partnership or pakistan middle order batting, which one you find more entertaining?

 

[Rana]

Babar rizwan having a good partnership or pakistan middle order batting, which one you find more entertaining?

I definitely don’t enjoy the nudging and tuk tuking of our top 3 you can bet your house on that!

 

[Jazx]

I definitely don’t enjoy the nudging and tuk tuking of our top 3 you can bet your house on that!

By nudging and tuk tuk how they managed to chase big totals in t20s in last 2 years, if i remember correctly they have chased down 180 plus scores atleast 5-6 times. Prior to that pakistan team used to crumble anything above 150.

 

[Stewie]

Pakistan are going with Babar, Rizwan and Shan Masood as their top 3 for the World Cup. I have been watching Pakistan cricket closely for nearly 20 years, I know all three of these players do not intend to play T20 cricket like the top 3 of most international teams. They focus more on quick singles and ground shots.

Fakhar Zaman and Muhammad Harris are in the traveling reserves, these are two good attacking players who are unlikely to feature for Pakistan in the World Cup.

So what is more entertaining? Our top 3 producing par/below par scores or watching paint dry?

Watching haters whine about how boring is Pakistan's top order.

 

[Rana]

By nudging and tuk tuk how they managed to chase big totals in t20s in last 2 years, if i remember correctly they have chased down 180 plus scores atleast 5-6 times. Prior to that pakistan team used to crumble anything above 150.

Look at the stark contrast of openers/top 3 batting style to England, Australia and India

Are you telling me anyone else is following our method? NZ have moved Conway to open in the absence of Daryl Mitchell who is their equivalent to Alex Hales in style and aggression. Fin Allen is an aggressive, attacking opener. Only Kane Williamson is of the same mould of Babar and Rizwan.

Even Afghanistan understand the importance of powerplay with their two attacking openers. Pakistan are playing outdated cricket. In fact I don’t think any team in the history of this game has ever had 3 accumulators at the top of the innings. If you face 60 balls, you should score 110+

Such are the requirements of T20i standard openers

 

[Rana]

Watching haters whine about how boring is Pakistan's top order.

Enjoy it! You might like it but I don’t

 

[Stewie]

why are our people so polar? you have to do everything to an extreme. There is just no middle ground. There is always room for improvement but calling their batting as boring as watching the paint dry is ridiculous. They are the top three batsmen in the format for God's sake. Give them some credit and stop your complaining. You should complain more about the middle order than the top order to be honest.

 

[Rana]

why are our people so polar? you have to do everything to an extreme. There is just no middle ground. There is always room for improvement but calling their batting as boring as watching the paint dry is ridiculous. They are the top three batsmen in the format for God's sake. Give them some credit and stop your complaining. You should complain more about the middle order than the top order to be honest.

Ok so you find them more entertaining than paint dry. I got your point. Thanks

 

[Jazx]

Look at the stark contrast of openers/top 3 batting style to England, Australia and India

Are you telling me anyone else is following our method? NZ have moved Conway to open in the absence of Daryl Mitchell who is their equivalent to Alex Hales in style and aggression. Fin Allen is an aggressive, attacking opener. Only Kane Williamson is of the same mould of Babar and Rizwan.

Even Afghanistan understand the importance of powerplay with their two attacking openers. Pakistan are playing outdated cricket. In fact I don’t think any team in the history of this game has ever had 3 accumulators at the top of the innings. If you face 60 balls, you should score 110+

Such are the requirements of T20i standard openers

I agree that india, eng, aus all have more attacking openers, infact these are the countries who never have crises with batting resources like pakistan. But do you really think that fakhar or any other power hitter is the answer to warners, rohits or butlers? And you didn't answered my question. How babar rizwan managed to chase down big totals so consistently over the last few years. Its because they are not just hit and miss kind of batters, they play proper cicket and are capable to play long with a fair strike rate and that is what required to chase down big totals. Even warner/ rohit are also proper batsmans only but they are just slightly more aggressive then babar and way ahead of rizwan but because of the consistency rizwan is also preferred to open. Its always better to have proper batters at the top than having a hit and miss kind of powerhitter. Powerhitters are more usefull at the end of the innings where they can play their little cameos.

 

[Rana]

[MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION]

Did you enjoy our top 3’s batting today

I have some paint drying on my wall which we could watch later if you didn’t quite enjoy it?

 

[MenInG]

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[Stewie]

[MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION]

Did you enjoy our top 3’s batting today

I have some paint drying on my wall which we could watch later if you didn’t quite enjoy it?

I absolutely did, because it was a difficult wicket to bat on and sometimes low and slow scoring proceedings are interesting too because they are part of the game. Rather than watching the paint dry, it will probably serve you a bit better to go play the game yourself to fully understand the complexities involved in the various skills of batting and bowling. But if its too physically strenuous for you, perhaps watching the paint dry or continuing to be a keyboard warrior/arm chair expert are your only options.

 

[Rana]

I absolutely did, because it was a difficult wicket to bat on and sometimes low and slow scoring proceedings are interesting too because they are part of the game. Rather than watching the paint dry, it will probably serve you a bit better to go play the game yourself to fully understand the complexities involved in the various skills of batting and bowling. But if its too physically strenuous for you, perhaps watching the paint dry or continuing to be a keyboard warrior/arm chair expert are your only options.

Did you enjoy Allen’s sixes on the same wicket? And then Conway’s intent and class?

 

[Stewie]

Did you enjoy Allen’s sixes on the same wicket? And then Conway’s intent and class?

Of course, that was wonderful batting. I think any true fan of cricket would have enjoyed their batting, unless you are the type of sour sports fan who only like to see games where their team wins.

 

[Rana]

Of course, that was wonderful batting. I think any true fan of cricket would have enjoyed their batting, unless you are the type of sour sports fan who only like to see games where their team wins.

What was more entertaining?

Allen creaming Pakistani bowlers out of the park or Babar, Shan and Rizwan scoring less than him collectively in a total of 8-9 overs?

 

[Stewie]

What was more entertaining?

Allen creaming Pakistani bowlers out of the park or Babar, Shan and Rizwan scoring less than him collectively in a total of 8-9 overs?

All of it, just like the game against BD last night. It was all pretty entertaining, and once again its proven that this is a winning formula that works. Someone just has to follow up their act and produce the goods. Only idiots would blame Baba and Rizwan, and I think such people have no business watching cricket, they should probably pick up watching baseball instead.

 

[Energy]

All of it, just like the game against BD last night. It was all pretty entertaining, and once again its proven that this is a winning formula that works. Someone just has to follow up their act and produce the goods. Only idiots would blame Baba and Rizwan, and I think such people have no business watching cricket, they should probably pick up watching baseball instead.

Again. You're talking way too much sense for him to decipher.

He said he will happily take 0/10 as long as the batters flash their bat every ball. At least no deliveries would be wasted. And intent would be clearly visible even to the rover on Mars.

 

[Rana]

Well, I think I will go to the Chelsea flower show if there is no paint drying event on in london

 

[Stewie]

Well, I think I will go to the Chelsea flower show if there is no paint drying event on in london

I know an ideal event you could go to. The humble pie eating event, just for you right here. Please register yourself right now, it’s fresh and ready to be served.

 

[Rana]

I know an ideal event you could go to. The humble pie eating event, just for you right here. Please register yourself right now, it’s fresh and ready to be served.

How? Because we won due to our top order?

 

[OmarKhan99]

I absolutely love Babar and Rizwan's strokes when in full-flow and also think they should be right at the top order. But, I do also think they really need to step-up their strike-rates in the PP, as well as not allowing spinners to reduce the RR significantly from overs 7-15. Anyone who implies they don't is just being disingenuous.

Babar and Rizwan both have the ability to play at 140-160 SR at the start of innings, and they have done so in the past, however too often they let the spinners settle into their work, and just ding around for singles. You need to put the pressure on the opps in PP, then sustain that pressure until the 15th, and then hit away to your heart's content. If they can't, hit out and trust the batsman coming in to do it. This strategy of playing 120-130 SR up until the 16th over and then going full berserk is antiquated and for good reason. Why settle for less and not leverage your team packed with batsmen (Shadab at 8, Wasim at 9 today).

Currently, what we lack severly is the top order's belief in the middle-low order. You can't expect them to perform well if you can't even trust them with enough balls to structure an innings without always having to pick up slack on the lacking RR. Haider, Nawaz, Shadab should definitely need to be trusted, esp when the spinners are on.

 

[Rana]

Very entertaining trio sponsored by Gray Nichols..

 

[MenInG]

Maybe Rizwan and Babar should take their time if this is what we have in the middle order

 

[Rana]

Maybe Rizwan and Babar should take their time if this is what we have in the middle order

Yes, you need to find a way to survive against good bowling

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes, you need to find a way to survive against good bowling

Asif batting like a tail ender, did you want him as a non playing captain

 

[Rana]

Asif batting like a tail ender, did you want him as a non playing captain

Does his job winning games at the brink of death though

 

[Rana]

No other side in the world has such a pathetic top 3

Name me one!

 

[Kroll]

As soon as I saw the 3 runs after 2 overs, I started to get a bad feeling and then it came to pass.

 

[Jazx]

No other side in the world has such a pathetic top 3

Name me one!

You saw pathetic top 3. What about that middle order which is even more pathetic? Even bangladesh and Zimbabwe have better middle orders.

 

[Rana]

Has anything changed with Pakistan cricket?

 

[ayemgilani86]

Has anything changed with Pakistan cricket?

nope, if by now Bobsy king fans have not realized that he is a selfish player they are fools. No one is against Babar opening if he changes his approach. But he does not want to he has just kept a fleet of chamchas around him that dont question him. Hafeez came and tried to shake things and was driven away after 2 months. Babar just cares about his brand so he can talk about his stats post retirement and think he has achieved as much as Kohli. Besides the innings in 2019 WC against NZ does anyknow remember any significant Babar innings in any format?

 

[mominsaigol]

Has anything changed with Pakistan cricket?

This thread aged so well lol.

 

[Rana]

Pak top order

Can you explain why Pak’s top order is more entertaining than watching paint dry?

 

[mominsaigol]

Can you explain why Pak’s top order is more entertaining than watching paint dry?

I can, because it's comedy gold to watch these guys bat. If you're watching alone then it's boring, But if you're watching with friends you can have endless laughs clowning these 2.

But with paint dry it's boring in both scenarios.

Babar and rizwan provide us laughs upon laughs, they are entertaining I'll give em that.

 

[MenInG]

I can, because it's comedy gold to watch these guys bat. If you're watching alone then it's boring, But if you're watching with friends you can have endless laughs clowning these 2.

But with paint dry it's boring in both scenarios.

Babar and rizwan provide us laughs upon laughs, they are entertaining I'll give em that.

If it's so painful, why do you watch Pakistan cricket?

 

[Human786]

bhai yeh 2 saal purani post hai

 

[Human786]

If it's so painful, why do you watch Pakistan cricket?

he is like moi a '' cricket '' fan ...

 

[mominsaigol]

If it's so painful, why do you watch Pakistan cricket?

Honestly I don't have an answer to that question. I genuinely don't. Tbf Pakistan cricket is Entertaining and theirs never really a dull moment either.

 

[MenInG]

bhai yeh 2 saal purani post hai

Har saal wohee rona hai!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Its interesting that even 2 years ago I wasn't convinced by Babar and thought he was selfish hitting 87 off 59 balls.

Others didn't believe me then that much.

How times have changed.

 

[mominsaigol]

Its interesting that even 2 years ago I wasn't convinced by Babar and thought he was selfish hitting 87 off 59 balls.

Others didn't believe me then that much.

How times have changed.

That's not too bad. It's a 147 SR? If an opener could consistently play like that I wouldn't complain. That's around 174-186 runs per innings avg if 2 batsmen score 87 of 59 with 2 extra balls being adjusted as plus minus anywhere from 0-12.

I wouldn't mind this.

 

[Saj]

The majority focus on individual records, individual milestones and their own stats. They don't give a damn whether the team wins or loses.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

That's not too bad. It's a 147 SR? If an opener could consistently play like that I wouldn't complain. That's around 174-186 runs per innings avg if 2 batsmen score 87 of 59 with 2 extra balls being adjusted as plus minus anywhere from 0-12.

I wouldn't mind this.

He scored 59 off like 45 balls.

Then scored 28 off 14 balls at a SR of 200 after getting his half century.

If you take 45 balls to hit 59 runs, you have used 7 overs to score 59 runs and the sudden acceleration at the end proves he plays selfishly for himself first and once he hits that 50 milestone, he accelerates.

 

[mominsaigol]

He scored 59 off like 45 balls.

Then scored 28 off 14 balls at a SR of 200 after getting his half century.

If you take 45 balls to hit 59 runs, you have used 7 overs to score 59 runs and the sudden acceleration at the end proves he plays selfishly for himself first and once he hits that 50 milestone, he accelerates.

Ahh, got you. I was suprised, because I was like, when did Babar become aggressive

 

[W63L35]

S/R of top three batting positions in T20Is.




Tuk tuk culture..... still rules!

 

[Rana]

England 151-1 in 11 overs

Pakistans still living in lala land chasing 152-0 in 19 overs lol

 

[mominsaigol]

England 151-1 in 11 overs

Pakistans still living in lala land chasing 152-0 in 19 overs lol

Tbf that's the only innings from ba/riz I dont mind. Its Pakistans first try at beating india.

At the end of the day they thrashed India a rival nation by 10 wickets in a cup ending moqa moqa in t20.

Issue is when they were inform they were only good enough to chase low scoring totals in odi and t20 against solid units which rarely happens.

By 2022 they became a tragedy. God knows how they lasted till 2025