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Pakistan [131/3] defeat West Indies [130/7] by 7 wickets in warm-up game in the ICC T20 World Cup

Our bowling is rubbish. These spinners who looked world class against week spin playing nation will get butchered by the teams like India and England.

Not to talk about Fast bowling options. Shaheen has been leaking runs all over the park. Rauf is Wahab Riaz 2 , this would be probably his last WC. The only match winner I can see is Hasan but again he has been pretty poor against India apart from CT final.
 
Pak bowling attack looking good.
Hasan, Imad bowling well but MoHa is going to be surprise package I feel. Won't be easy to get him away here
 
You can't have afridi, Hasan and Rauf all in the same team as all of them are expensive, Rauf and Hassan in particular
 
Babar should know how to manage his bowlers quota. I hope todays distribution was more from practice perspective as in a real game you can let teams off hook and spinners must complete their quota
 
You can't have afridi, Hasan and Rauf all in the same team as all of them are expensive, Rauf and Hassan in particular

There’s not one pace bowler in the current Pakistan WT20 that doesn’t get smashed around the park. Amir may have not been taking wickets but at least he wouldn’t leak runs. We’re basically going in with 5 Mohammad Sami lites.
 
There’s not one pace bowler in the current Pakistan WT20 that doesn’t get smashed around the park. Amir may have not been taking wickets but at least he wouldn’t leak runs. We’re basically going in with 5 Mohammad Sami lites.

We needed a Rumman Raees type bolwer here.
 
We’re now at that stage where we miss every single person we didn’t chose.
 
Hafeez and Malik and 4,5 . Should give them 2 games if they fail we need to replace them for rest of games
 
One change i would make to this starting 11 is

Haider Ali in Asif Ali out

Haider should come in at 4 and i also dont mind him coming in at where Asif ali walks in, because have seen Haider finish games for PZ in PSL ...


Hafeez and Malik should change their slots

Hafeez can play his shots from the word go compared to Malik ... So Malik should come in before Hafeez and he can rotate strike much better than Hafeez which will also be crucial in the middle overs..

Looks like Pakistan missing little trick here in the batting point of view....
 
Babar needs to retire, does he not know that personal milestones don’t count in warm ups

Agreed. This is quite pathetic from him. In fact, should've retired after a thirty. The whole point is for most of the team to get some match practice.
 
Agreed. This is quite pathetic from him. In fact, should've retired after a thirty. The whole point is for most of the team to get some match practice.

There was a conversation between Babar and someone in the dug out and they were talking about next over. I am not sure who it was but maybe someone was telling Babar that the next batsman will come in the next over.

Well the next batsman has come and gone now.
 
There was a conversation between Babar and someone in the dug out and they were talking about next over. I am not sure who it was but maybe someone was telling Babar that the next batsman will come in the next over.

Well the next batsman has come and gone now.

That was really quick process :))
 
One change i would make to this starting 11 is

Haider Ali in Asif Ali out

Haider should come in at 4 and i also dont mind him coming in at where Asif ali walks in, because have seen Haider finish games for PZ in PSL ...


Hafeez and Malik should change their slots

Hafeez can play his shots from the word go compared to Malik ... So Malik should come in before Hafeez and he can rotate strike much better than Hafeez which will also be crucial in the middle overs..

Looks like Pakistan missing little trick here in the batting point of view....

one more change please....
Wasim Jr. in & Harris out..
 
Fakhar at 3 is good .that's a simple yet effective change . Misbah was playing fakhar at 6
 
Babar and a couple of other players need to sit out for the next game.


Haider Ali
Mohammad Rizwan
Fakhar Zaman
Mohammad Hafeez
Shoaib Malik
Asif Ali
Mohammad Nawaz
Mohammad Wasim
Shadab Khan
Haris Rauf
Shaheen Afridi
 
Malik and Hafeez has played for more than 20 years now.

Not sure how important was for them to get some match practice. Haidar and Asif Ali should
have been given chance.

This seniority culture is deeply rooted in PCB.
 
Babar is so good that no one even talks about him any more - like in this thread. This score is routine for him and for Pakistanis.

We just don't know what we have in him.
 
Love it how people corrected me that it was 13 off 17….damn I missed 5 crucial runs there
 
You even got his score wrong. Hilarious.

What difference does it make? 13 off 17 is quite embarrassing for someone who is keeping Sharjeel Khan out of the side and forcing Fakhar to bat at 3
 
Disappointed with the exclusion of Nawaz. Deserves to be in the Xi over both Imad and Shadab.
 
If Gayle was a Pakistani we would've been butchered by Pakistani fans for his innings today. And there would've been an uproar to drop him
 
Highlights of the gam, courtesy ICC

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I dont expect Pakistan to win the tournament. There are better teams. These pitches arent belters. Batsmen with good technique will have a major role to play. Pace isn't going to be the key, variation will be the key.

Pakistan therefore has a wrong batting line up. Fakhar and Babar should open. Cannot have two of your best going as openers. 2 or 3 down and the game will be over. Have Hafeez at 3, Rizwan at 4 and Malik at 5 because only Malik can pull the team out of disastrous starts. In case of good starts any hitter can be promoted.
 
I dont expect Pakistan to win the tournament. There are better teams. These pitches arent belters. Batsmen with good technique will have a major role to play. Pace isn't going to be the key, variation will be the key.

Pakistan therefore has a wrong batting line up. Fakhar and Babar should open. Cannot have two of your best going as openers. 2 or 3 down and the game will be over. Have Hafeez at 3, Rizwan at 4 and Malik at 5 because only Malik can pull the team out of disastrous starts. In case of good starts any hitter can be promoted.


They have the right batting line up , they need to play Haider at 4 Malik at 5 and Hafeez at 6

Hafeez is not in form and he will take lot of time usually to score runs and definitely so when he is out of form

At 6 , he will not have that luxury to sit back and play slow , he will play all his shots to score the quick runs which is needed by the team
 
Haider Ali is bang average. Will hit one nice shot followed immediately by the same shot to the fielder
 
Haider Ali is bang average. Will hit one nice shot followed immediately by the same shot to the fielder

He is an opener basically, but Pak think tanks are crazy. In PZ they played him at 3,4,5.
While Misbah played him from 1-6 in his short intl career. Now he is like how did I use to bat before sorry I forgot Misbah bhai, can u pls teach me. Misbah bhai says bye bye beta.
 
They have the right batting line up , they need to play Haider at 4 Malik at 5 and Hafeez at 6

Hafeez is not in form and he will take lot of time usually to score runs and definitely so when he is out of form

At 6 , he will not have that luxury to sit back and play slow , he will play all his shots to score the quick runs which is needed by the team

Not a good batting order. How many teams have their best batsman open? Ideally Babar should go down but you dont then have good openers.

Kohli Williamson Smith , all have gone to no 3 or 4
 
Not a good batting order. How many teams have their best batsman open? Ideally Babar should go down but you dont then have good openers.

Kohli Williamson Smith , all have gone to no 3 or 4

India plays Rohit and Rahul.

Smith and kohli was not openers, kohli failed at the opening slot and moved down silently.
Kane was also batted mostly at 3 , they had guptil and Munro to open for a long time

Babar and Rizwan opening the inns which is the right option in UAE. With Fakhar and Haider coming next suits well here.
 
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Damn sure following is the best 11 and batting order should be as such

Babar
Rizwan
Fakhar
Haider
Malik
Hafeez
Shadab
Nawaz
Hasan ali
Haris rauf
Shaheen.
 
With KL’s form, we are going to get slaughtered if it’s a belter of a track on Sunday
 
With the initial stages of the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 underway, the Super 12 teams continued their build-up to the tournament ahead of joining the action in the second round. We round up the action from Monday’s warm-up matches.

Pakistan laid down a marker ahead of the Super 12s with an impressive seven-wicket win over defending T20I World Champions West Indies.

Spinners Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan conceded just 13 runs off their five combined overs as the West Indies top order got bogged down in Dubai.

A quickfire 23 off 10 balls from captain Kieron Pollard helped the Windies to 130/7, but Pakistan made short work of the target, knocking it off with seven wickets and 27 balls remaining.

Skipper Babar Azam stroked a composed 50(41) at the top of the order, but it was Fakhar Zaman who produced the fireworks, slamming 46 from 24 balls including a maximum to wrap up the win in the 16th over.
 
Damn sure following is the best 11 and batting order should be as such

Babar
Rizwan
Fakhar
Haider
Malik
Hafeez
Shadab
Nawaz
Hasan ali
Haris rauf
Shaheen.

That's the strongest XI we can have, and looks competitive in UAE conditions. Imad replaces Nawaz.
 
Let the four genuine batters bat at the top. Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, Haider. Under any situation. All others can be flexible and rotated down the order.
 
Damn sure following is the best 11 and batting order should be as such

Babar
Rizwan
Fakhar
Haider
Malik
Hafeez
Shadab
Nawaz
Hasan ali
Haris rauf
Shaheen.

Very good team batting order. hopefully instead of going with previously tested order, the team management show some creativity tweak the batting order like this. It will be great improvement.
 
In a span of 3 days from 24 -26 Oct , Pakistan will progress further in the tourney or pack their bags back home :sammy

Let’s see. :yk2
 
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Encouraging win despite a couple of negatives.

Good to see Fakhar batting nicely.

Pakistan's bowlers are amongst the best, if only the batting can support them.
 
Not a bad start. The scoring rate at almost 9/over is encouraging. Afridi was definitely disappointing. Hoping he finds his bearings before before the big game and also hoping FZ can maintain continue his current form with a similar strike rate.
 
Babar, Rizwan and Fakhar are good, just look at the difference between our top order and middle order lol. Such extremes from one end to the other, top notch to mediocrity!

Having two 40 year olds (not very good ones) in the middle order is a sad reflection of the corruption and mismanagement that has plagued Pakistan since eternity. Then there is Asif Ali...

I fear the middle order is going to cost us this WC.
 
If Pakistan play this eleven in the first game, they would have made the same mistakes they did in 2019 World Cup; not knowing their best eleven and persisting with the likes of Malik etc.

Same player was persisted until Haris Sohail came and saved the day against New Zealand and so on...

I remember, Michael Atherton commenting when Pakistsn narrowly missed out that, they didnt know their best eleven, or rather in Pakistan's case didnt play it until it was too late.

This is typical Pakistan preparations; they tend to make the same mistakes over and over, without ever learning anything.

So, it doesnt matter, who is in charge, whether its Ramiz Raja or Wasim Khan, unless Pakistan radically change the way they think, nothing new ever is going to take place.
 
My concern is how Shaheen and Haris leak runs when they get attacked. India will not have missed this weakness. Haris should not be in the starting 11 but only an inexperienced Mohammed Wasim can replace him.

Ruman Rees would have been good for this squad but he has left it too late. Imran Khan Snr & Wahab would have been a sensible selection too but time to back to squad.
 
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Would take Rumman over Haris in any universe.

These pitches are ideal for bowlers with pace variations.
India might miss Natarajan here.
 
I liked how we looked out there ..I think we will lose against India but win the tournament somehow as strange as it sounds.
 
My starting 11 against Ind
Babar
Riz
FZ
Hafeez
HA
Malik
Imad
Nawaz
Shadab
Hasan
Afridi

Too many spinners imo. Shadab, Nawaz, Imad, Hafeez and Malik all in a xi is an overkill.

I’d replace one of Nawaz/Imad with Asif Ali just because he brings something different to the table (even though he’s never done it at international level).
 
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