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Pakistan [190/4] beat Afghanistan [189] by 6 wickets in the quarter-final of the Under-19 World Cup

Don't overreact people, it's in the laws of the game. Yes it's morally wrong but legally not. Apart fro the top 3, no one has really shown any fight and can't see the talent too.. maybe it's a part and parcel of u19 game.. only few graduate to the next level and we know the top 3 and a couple of bowlers will come through.
 
That was desparate from Afghans really.
But if it's in the rule book, you can't do much about it.
 
Mankad should result in a dead ball, not a wicket.

How can u get a wicket of the ball has not even been bowled yet?
 
Hurraira must have been out of the crease regularly since the start however Afghans only thought of using the rule when they were struggling in the match.
 
I want to know who's the mastermind of this. The captain, the bowler or the coach?
 
Titan24 said:
Hurraira must have been out of the crease regularly since the start however Afghans only thought of using the rule when they were struggling in the match.
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He was.
I kid you not.
When they were looking at a stumping of Haider i think, i saw how far out hurraira and thought about the Mankading thing.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
He was.
I kid you not.
When they were looking at a stumping of Haider i think, i saw how far out hurraira and thought about the Mankading thing.
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True. It looked like a team plan, there is no way captain didnt know bowler wasnt gonna do that.
 
The mankad plan fell flat on its face. Afg scored too low for it to be successful.
 
Imagine in football, when there is a drop ball and a player goes to score a goal. Mankad is similar to that
 
Nothing surprise if it comes from Afghan cricketers. They are arrogant, serial age cheater, mean and boastful players.
 
They have played this Shfiq guy well today.
 
Afghans better uproot the stumps by hands as I can think of any other official rule they can use to try and get the win.
 
MMHS said:
Cricket's future is in South Asia - no matter which country you represent. By the way, did the AFG kids really did the trick with Hurairra:)?
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No. South Asian teams may be good at junior level but it doesn't mean anything. The SENA teams are rich and have proper infrastructure to train their players. They simply don't care about u19.
 
Afghanis have been dealt with nicely today they even tried to cheat but they’ve been given a nice phainty. Ian bishop saying they are only kids but they ain’t kids cause these Afghans are over 25
 
HappyWarsFan said:
No. South Asian teams may be good at junior level but it doesn't mean anything. The SENA teams are rich and have proper infrastructure to train their players. They simply don't care about u19.
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England really do care.
The best u19s from every county are selected
 
HappyWarsFan said:
No. South Asian teams may be good at junior level but it doesn't mean anything. The SENA teams are rich and have proper infrastructure to train their players. They simply don't care about u19.
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More than anything, you need passion & youngsters following the game, which is diminishing in SENA countries. They'll remain a power in cricket as their system is good.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
I thought a warning is supposed to be given.
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No. You don't have to be given. You should not gain unfair advantage at any level of cricket. There is a reason why this dismissal even exists. We have to stop hiding under this "spirit of the game" crap. I know Kohli mocked Ashwin for doing this. Many cricketers like Dhoni, KOhli also get this wrong. Wandering outside the crease willy nilly is against spirit of the game. Not running out the guys who wanders.
 
A 6 wicket win with 9 overs to spare. 2 wickets lost to run out. Comfortable win in the extreme. But the wrist slitters on here will still find something to moan about. Hard to please some of you.
 
A comprehensive win at the end.
Hope we destroy India and storm into the finals.:vk
 
The Googly said:
A 6 wicket win with 9 overs to spare. 2 wickets lost to run out. Comfortable win in the extreme. But the wrist slitters on here will still find something to moan about. Hard to please some of you.
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the wrist slitter(S) will say why the run outs? shows bad technique and pakistan cricket is finished.
 
Alhamdulillah. Kept saying throughout the the thread Pakistan will win it easily. Well done. The top order and late order is very good. Rohail needs to bat through the innings.
 
MMHS said:
Cricket's future is in South Asia - no matter which country you represent. By the way, did the AFG kids really did the trick with Hurairra:)?
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lol That gives a false sense of security. Taking this to next level is the hard part. After 2007 world cup batch, BD is struggling to produce a decent set of players. Even those players don't exactly have world class stats. How many BD players have made it to next level from say 2016 batch or 2014 batch?
 
the Great Khan said:
the wrist slitter(S) will say why the run outs? shows bad technique and pakistan cricket is finished.
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Bro at least they provide some good laughs. Let them play the devil. Specially the legendary "I know it All" comedian [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]. :salute
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] missing during the run chase.

He will be back in full swing when Pakistan will be served a humiliation against his beloved India
 
Good to see the batting order completely settled. Pretty much every batsman except Rohail has made a 50 in the warm ups, group stages, or this QF. But I’m not too worried about Rohail as he has a habit of showing up in big games (ACC Emerging Asia vs Bangladesh, U19 Asia Cup fighting knock vs India, QeA trophy fighting knock vs Central Punjab). Hopefully he regains his mojo in time for India.

In general, Im very excited to see Huraira, Haider, Rohail, and Haris against India. Also, if Amir was nursing an injury, I can’t wait to see him at full strength once he’s recovered, hopefully in time for the semifinal. His newball partner Tahir is an absolute cracker of a talent as well. Very tight with lines and lengths and beautiful variety in his deliveries. If the India lineup had a hard time against Australia, they’re not going to survive the new ball against Pak.

Excellent effort by the pakistan team, good performances all round against Afghanistan
 
Rana said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] missing during the run chase.

He will be back in full swing when Pakistan will be served a humiliation against his beloved India
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Or if Pak wins (hopefully), he will be in hiding in depression land for a few days more
 
Mankad is 100% legal.

Stop the whining.

We won, good, but win against a top side will matter.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
lol That gives a false sense of security. Taking this to next level is the hard part. After 2007 world cup batch, BD is struggling to produce a decent set of players. Even those players don't exactly have world class stats. How many BD players have made it to next level from say 2016 batch or 2014 batch?
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Are you trying to get under my skin - must have to say a bit desperate & quite idiotic actually. I said "South Asia" and that list doesn't include any ethnic Bangladeshi. Next time, if you want to troll around, be careful not to make an idiot out of you.

An International career is for 10 years, for top class players close to 20 - for such a career, 7-8 U19 WCs pass by, and not every International players come from U19 WC (around 30% max will make it to national cap) means from one such tournament, just 3-4 players making national team is normal expectation, 2 making a 10+ years career is a success.
 
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Legal but not ethical. By doing this, the Afghans let themselves down and it reflects badly on their character.
 
MMHS said:
Are you trying to get under my skin - must have to say a bit desperate & quite idiotic actually. I said "South Asia" and that list doesn't include any ethnic Bangladeshi. Next time, if you want to troll around, be careful not to make an idiot out of you.

An International career is for 10 years, for top class players close to 20 - for such a career, 7-8 U19 WCs pass by, and not every International players come from U19 WC (around 30% max will make it to national cap) means from one such tournament, just 3-4 players making national team is normal expectation, 2 making a 10+ years career is a success.
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For a team like BD under-19 is the best bet to identify talents. Just wondering why it is not happening like it happens for say Pakistan who already has tried 3 under-19 fast bowlers in aTest match.
 
Mankad law needs to be revisited actually - at present state, it's not fair, neither appropriate; AFGs didn't do anything illegal but they took the advantage of a flawed rule. Mankad can be applicable if the batsman is trying to steal a run, but here the PAK opener was just "backing" up - that's he kept himself in motion, so that in case of a single he isn't caught on heels. Umpires must be given the authority of judging a Mankad call, just like they do for LBW.

And, it's not uncommon in other sports as well - for example, not every handball results in Penalty, referee uses his judgement before judging a handball call.
 
sweep_shot said:
Correct.

It is a controversial and possibly unethical dismissal but 100% legal.
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What do u mean controversial? Its a rule that has been in practice. Its not ethical for the batsman to walk out of the crease before the ball is delivered or about to be delivered. And talking of the spirit of the game, the batsman is against the spirit of the game and not ethical if he is walking out before the bowl is delivered as per the rule.

Any rule broken is not ethical and against the spirit of the game. So im afraid its the batsman who is well against the spirit of the game. We should accept the rule change.
 
Huraira’s half-century on debut secures Pakistan semi-final spot in ICC U19 Cricket World Cup

• Pakistan to face India in the first semi-final of the ICC U19 Cricket World Cup 2020 on 4 February

Benoni, 31 January 2020:

A half-century from Mohammad Huraira on debut secured Pakistan U19 a six-wicket win against Afghanistan U19 in the fourth quarter-final of the ICC U19 Cricket World Cup in Benoni on Friday.

Pakistan will face India U19 on Tuesday, 4 February, in the first Super League semi-final in Potchefstroom.

Huraira, the 17-year-old opener from Sialkot, top-scored with 64 off 76 balls before he was mankaded by Noor Ahmad in the 28th over of Pakistan’s run-chase.

Pakistan’s chase began with a flourish as Hurraira, who hit eight fours and a six, made full use of a dropped catch early in his innings.

His opening partner Haider Ali hit five spanking fours in his 34-ball 28 before he was run out. The pair added 61 runs in 11.3 overs.

Captain Rohail Nazir added 56 for the second-wicket with Hurraira before the former was dismissed by Noor for a 35-ball 22.

The possibility of Pakistan breaking the losing streak against Afghanistan at this level – Pakistan had lost their last four completed matches against Afghanistan stretching from November 2017 – came under threat when the batting side lost three wickets for 10 runs with their score slipping from 117 for one to 127 for four.

But, an unbeaten 63-run stand between Qasim Akram (25 off 41) and Mohammad Haris (29 off 43) helped Pakistan chase the target with 53 balls spare.

Batting first after winning the toss, Afghanistan were dismissed for 189 run in 49.1 overs. Captain and opener Farhan Zakhil top-scored for the Afghans with a 55-ball 40, hitting seven fours in his innings. Abdul Rahman provided a late flourish to the innings with a 41-ball 30 (two fours and one six).

Middle-order batsmen Rahmanullah (29) and Abid Mohammadi (28) made useful contributions.

For Pakistan, pacer Amir Khan took three wickets for 58 runs in his 10 overs. Leg-spinner Fahad Munir provided two useful breakthroughs in his seven over spell in which he conceded 29 runs.

Qasim Akram, Abbas Afridi, Tahir Hussain and Aamir Ali took a wicket each.

For his match-winning knock, Huraira was named man-of-the-match.

Scores in brief:

Afghanistan U19 189 all out, 49.1 overs (Farhan Zakhil 40, Abdul Rahman 30; Amir Khan 3-58, Fahad Munir 2-29)

Pakistan U19 190-4, 41.1 overs (Mohammad Huraira 64, Mohammad Haris 29 not out, Haider Ali 28, Qasim Akram 25 not out, Rohail Nazir 22; Noor Ahmad 2-32)
 
jnaveen1980 said:
For a team like BD under-19 is the best bet to identify talents. Just wondering why it is not happening like it happens for say Pakistan who already has tried 3 under-19 fast bowlers in aTest match.
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BD got Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mohammed Saifuddin from U-19 team. Mehidy was the captain 2016 U-19 World Cup and Saifuddin played in the same tournament also.

Nazmul Hossain Shanto was also in 2016 team. He is now a regular Test player.

Afif Hossain played in 2018 U-19 WC. He is now a regular ODI player.

Players are coming from U-19 level but they haven't done that great yet.
 
Excellent chase
Hurraira looks class with pure timing against pace and spin
Haider looks very good against pace but doesnt seem against spin.

The 2 opening bowlers also look decent
Qasim looks decent all rounder
 
alishahid said:
What do u mean controversial? Its a rule that has been in practice. Its not ethical for the batsman to walk out of the crease before the ball is delivered or about to be delivered. And talking of the spirit of the game, the batsman is against the spirit of the game and not ethical if he is walking out before the bowl is delivered as per the rule.

Any rule broken is not ethical and against the spirit of the game. So im afraid its the batsman who is well against the spirit of the game. We should accept the rule change.
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It is controversial because generally players give warnings. They don't dismiss batsmen.

First warning would've been nice.
 
MMHS said:
Mankad law needs to be revisited actually - at present state, it's not fair, neither appropriate; AFGs didn't do anything illegal but they took the advantage of a flawed rule. Mankad can be applicable if the batsman is trying to steal a run, but here the PAK opener was just "backing" up - that's he kept himself in motion, so that in case of a single he isn't caught on heels. Umpires must be given the authority of judging a Mankad call, just like they do for LBW.

And, it's not uncommon in other sports as well - for example, not every handball results in Penalty, referee uses his judgement before judging a handball call.
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Who determines whether he attempts to take a single or not. That can be cleverly exploited by batsmen. Consider it as a stumping at the bowler's end.
 
Pakistan are probably the most guilty nation of all in terms of not developing their under 19 players. A very high percentage of 'hugely promising' players don't make it. This may down to their lack of progression and hard work. Or it may be a fault in the coaching system. Hopefully, things will change now. Shaheen Shah and Naseem are two hopeful examples of this. We need more. Especially batsmen.
 
sweep_shot said:
BD got Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mohammed Saifuddin from U-19 team. Mehidy was the captain 2016 U-19 World Cup and Saifuddin played in the same tournament also.

Nazmul Hossain Shanto was also in 2016 team. He is now a regular Test player.

Afif Hossain played in 2018 U-19 WC. He is now a regular ODI player.

Players are coming from U-19 level but they haven't done that great yet.
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Thanks. SO they are not having the same amount of success they had at the U19 level.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
For a team like BD under-19 is the best bet to identify talents. Just wondering why it is not happening like it happens for say Pakistan who already has tried 3 under-19 fast bowlers in aTest match.
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Keep individual teams out of a discussion starting with "South Asia" :).

For BD also most players come from a junior system - each and every BD players are U19 product, some didn't make the WC because it's age limited tournament - some players misses out for being too old or too young and by next WC, next batch takes over. I hope next time, when you talk about BD cricket, you'll come with some home work - the team that toured PAK recently has 4 players from last U19 WC - Shanto, Afif, Hasan & Naim. Mahdi, Mustafiz, Liton, Soumya played U19 WCs between 2014-16. The team that played WC 2019 had almost every player from some U19 WCs.
 
Yes agreed. We could say it would have been nice if he had given a warning prior to running him out.
But it was very good to see Mhd Haris not even stretching himself at the non strikers end looking for a run. He was doing the right thing. Nevertheless a good lesson for the young lads.
 
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Winning moments
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Who determines whether he attempts to take a single or not. That can be cleverly exploited by batsmen. Consider it as a stumping at the bowler's end.
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How does Referee do it in soccer? In every sports, there is an on-field adjudicator for such subjective calls.

I am against eliminating "Mankad" rule, because then batsmen will take unfair advantage; and in modern days' sports, we shouldn't back too much on spirit & fair play (FIFA gives award for every WC game .... still as if players don't dive or fake injury to waste time!!!!!) - AFGs did something within law, but not in proper spirit. I am suggesting something that'll take care of both law & spirit.
 
sweep_shot said:
BD got Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mohammed Saifuddin from U-19 team. Mehidy was the captain 2016 U-19 World Cup and Saifuddin played in the same tournament also.

Nazmul Hossain Shanto was also in 2016 team. He is now a regular Test player.

Afif Hossain played in 2018 U-19 WC. He is now a regular ODI player.

Players are coming from U-19 level but they haven't done that great yet.
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Okay apart from Mehidy don't know about others. May be the under-19 players stay as under-19 players and don't grow beyond that level to make an impact at the highest level?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Okay apart from Mehidy don't know about others. May be the under-19 players stay as under-19 players and don't grow beyond that level to make an impact at the highest level?
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Yes. They haven't exactly set the world on fire. Very inconsistent so far.
 
Match highlights.

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Abdullah719 said:
Match highlights.

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So Huraira also made a world class effort on the boundary. This guy is modern Pro level
 
A happy Pakistan squad

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