Pakistan couldn't chase a PAR score, and nobody is realizing that!

[Hawkeye]

Since yesterday, the team's coach, captain, media back home, almost every PPer has been mentioning bowling failure as the reason for the loss.

Nobody - coach, captain, selectors seem to realize that chasing scores around 320-350 is an absolute NORM in this era. Pakistan's bowling actually did very well until the last 4 to 5 overs.

Where did we fail? It's our batting - the long train of tried and tested accumulators! What are we focusing on? Carnage in the last overs of bowling.

How come Mickey Arthur is taking responsibility for selecting Wahab Riaz - but not for selecting Ahmed Shehzad and Azhar Ali as the openers? And a lineup full of accumulators: Hafeez, Malik, Imad Wasim.

How can anyone even dream of chasing the normal 300+ par scores with this team, against any decent side of this era? No, not talking about Zimbabwe, Bangladesh or West Indies!

 

[Madplayer]

I think everyone is blaming the batting primarily. Mostly because they didnt even try.

Wahab and dropped catches were also factors though.

 

[Hawkeye]

I think everyone is blaming the batting primarily. Mostly because they didnt even try.

Wahab and dropped catches were also factors though.

If you tune into the TV channels, they all are having a meltdown over how Wahab lost us the match and Junaid Khan, the "daddy" of Virat Kohli could have won us the match.

Not a single channel is focusing on our batting - the primary cause of our losses. Mickey too isn't taking responsibility for selecting these accumulators (though props for taking responsibility for Wahab).

 

[Rana]

Hasan Ali's drop catch was unnacaptable. The guy may end up becoming the Next Rahat Ali if he doesnt start showing some intent in the field!

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not par score. Add 20 runs to pressure . It was like chasing 344 in a real pressure game. I bet they could not have chased 275 either. How many times pal has chased 280 plus in the last 5 years or so. Pakistan's recent strategy was always restricting opposition to below par total and chAsing it in 80s style. Guys like Ajmal made it possible Now bowling attack is toothless they end up chasing above par total.

 

[dauntless]

Very good thread,most of the team would have chased that score pitch had nothing for the bowlers bowlers did decently on a pitch like that.It's all batsmen's fault.They have to confront the score like that more often in future.Batsman are responsible for the defeat.

 

[Madplayer]

If you tune into the TV channels, they all are having a meltdown over how Wahab lost us the match and Junaid Khan, the "daddy" of Virat Kohli could have won us the match.

Not a single channel is focusing on our batting - the primary cause of our losses. Mickey too isn't taking responsibility for selecting these accumulators (though props for taking responsibility for Wahab).

Yes havent been able to see any analysis on Pak channels. ptv sports has been blocked here and Pak news channels as well.

I think guys like hafeez, azhar etc have a strong lobby in these tv channels. Nobody raises a finger at them. Only on PP you see people calling for their heads.

 

[dauntless]

If you tune into the TV channels, they all are having a meltdown over how Wahab lost us the match and Junaid Khan, the "daddy" of Virat Kohli could have won us the match.

Not a single channel is focusing on our batting - the primary cause of our losses. Mickey too isn't taking responsibility for selecting these accumulators (though props for taking responsibility for Wahab).

I don't understand the reason behind the fascination for that trundler junaid.he would have gone for at least 80 runs too.

 

[MRSN]

Well what's there to discuss in batting. It was pretty expected carrying test specialists and packing the team with full of anchors. When selectors first priority is to play out 50 overs then worry about winning the match then what can you say. It's a sorry state of affairs.

 

[Statsman]

Well it was 320 from 48 overs. The way India was playing, Pak would have been chasing 350+ from 50 which is difficult on any ground for most teams.

 

[proud_pakistani]

The thing is everyone is well aware of how bad the Pakistani batting is. To win games Pakistan's bowling and fielding has to cover up that deficiency. We managed to do that before with our spin trio of Ajmal-Afridi-Hafeez. But since they are no longer available Pakistan cricket has been completely exposed.

 

[Statsman]

350 plus has been successfully chased only 7 times in the history of ODI cricket.

3 by India (thanks to Kohli who has 100+ in all 3)
2 by SA
1 by Eng
1 by NZ

 

[Savak]

For a country that likes to pride itself on its bowling, it should be ashamed of themselves if they agree to concede 300 runs every game

 

[Statsman]

320-350 has been chased 20 times.

Most by India again - 6 times (2 centuries by Kohli)
Next best is NZ - 3 times (all before 2008)

Pakistan has chased 320+ only twice (once against India and once against Bangladesh)

So it is not a NORM.

 

[Idreamofcricket]

I completely agree that our bowlers are more to be blamed than the batsmen.

India were over 160 runs in the 28th over.. that is way too much.

Pakistan bowlers did a fairly decent job in the next 12 or so overs when they restricted India and it seemed like India would only get about 270. But the way Kohli and yuvraj hammered our bowlers for 100 runs in 8 overs is simply unacceptable.
We lost the game right then and there.. no amount of awesome batting talent would have saved us chasing down that large a total under pressure.

Yes our batting sucks.. but our bowling sucked donkey balls.

 

[Idreamofcricket]

Indians are "clinical" as Kohli had said.. sit back and think about that term.. and think about how much hard work, intelligence, fitness and team culture needs to go in to stay clinical at all times.

 

[Madplayer]

320-350 has been chased 20 times.

Most by India again - 6 times (2 centuries by Kohli)
Next best is NZ - 3 times (all before 2008)

Pakistan has chased 320+ only twice (once against India and once against Bangladesh)

So it is not a NORM.

The data is obsolete. Trends have changed. If a team scores 380, opposition might not chase it down but they do score 360 as a reply. What did Pakistan do?

 

[Macho Mann]

the damage honestly was done by bowlers, the death overs indian carnage against wahab and hasan ali totally led the morale of the team down

the batting is also marred by bad untimely selection of azhar ali, ahmed shahzad who were selected as substitute for sharjeel khan and azhar was infact dropped from the team.

 

[Idreamofcricket]

Also, when Indians play.. it appears as if they play because that is what they do.. because they are cut throat professionals.. Thus Clinical.. They have a procedure, a process and a plan..

When Pakistanis play.. it appears they are desperately trying to win or make a point to their selection committee and/or country.

I do not think that our boys are lacking talent.. maybe it is dormant and needs to be honed.. what we are desperately lacking is confidence.. A confidence that is born out of being free in the mind and being able to play the game we want.. and not having to worry about the next pay check or politics or worrying about saving face. Remember how free Miandad used to play? Remember how free Akhtar used to bowl?..
In comparison, our boys are timid girls thanks to a rotten culture of making them ashamed and afraid all the time with finger pointing and bickering.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I think Pakistan have successfully chased 250+ scores only 1 in 5 matches or so in the last 5 years - the worst among top teams.

 

[ar2020]

You have 6 balls. It is a disgrace in 6 damn balls you can't score 5 runs. Just 5! How hard is that?

 

[sshakir411]

so has been the case for the last 3 to 4 years...shocked it took OP this long to see it

 

[New Yorker]

Since yesterday, the team's coach, captain, media back home, almost every PPer has been mentioning bowling failure as the reason for the loss.

Nobody - coach, captain, selectors seem to realize that chasing scores around 320-350 is an absolute NORM in this era. Pakistan's bowling actually did very well until the last 4 to 5 overs.

Where did we fail? It's our batting - the long train of tried and tested accumulators! What are we focusing on? Carnage in the last overs of bowling.

How come Mickey Arthur is taking responsibility for selecting Wahab Riaz - but not for selecting Ahmed Shehzad and Azhar Ali as the openers? And a lineup full of accumulators: Hafeez, Malik, Imad Wasim.

How can anyone even dream of chasing the normal 300+ par scores with this team, against any decent side of this era? No, not talking about Zimbabwe, Bangladesh or West Indies!

the bowling did pretty well until the last 4-5 overs, and the batting did pretty well until the last 39 overs.

not quite sure what we learn from this kind of compartmentalization.

if you can't take wickets for 43 overs you will be hammered in the last 5. hardly a surprise that india ended up with a big score, even if loosing amir didn't help.

and methinks 320 in 48 overs is not a par score quite yet.

batting is a huge problem but it is universally acknowledged as such pretty much all the time. the fact that most fans think the bowling is 'about fine' even though we have had the worst bowling attack in ODIs for the past five years, if i recall, tells you where the real misdirection has been over the last few years

we simply can't afford to prioritze one problem area over another. everything needs to change

 

[New Yorker]

The data is obsolete. Trends have changed. If a team scores 380, opposition might not chase it down but they do score 360 as a reply. What did Pakistan do?

where is this new data pray tell?

 

[IAJ]

Hasan Ali's drop catch was unnacaptable. The guy may end up becoming the Next Rahat Ali if he doesnt start showing some intent in the field!

He is actually a very good fielder, has taken many good catches and saved boundaries Rahat only can dream about. So yes that dropped catch was really disappointing. Maybe the nerves got better of him coz that was a straight forward chance.

 

[IAJ]

Yes batting is the problem, has been for the last decade at least. Even if you had selected the other deserving players they would have struggled to chase down this.
If any team gives so many runs against India in this tournament they wont chase it down because India's bowling is much improved and probably the best in the world atm.

 

[nitrous]

What really irked me, Azhar played 5 dot balls, and then the last ball, he plays to long-on for a single..

Im pretty when Azhar was settled, the long-on wasnt even up, and for some miracolous reason, he decides to take a single of last ball..

Less said about the professor the better, he was leaving balls as if he is playing a test match, and blocking every other ball...

How hard is to rotate the strike, I guess it is hard for the pak batsman, as the running between the wickets was pretty pathetic.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Since yesterday, the team's coach, captain, media back home, almost every PPer has been mentioning bowling failure as the reason for the loss.

Nobody - coach, captain, selectors seem to realize that chasing scores around 320-350 is an absolute NORM in this era. Pakistan's bowling actually did very well until the last 4 to 5 overs.

Where did we fail? It's our batting - the long train of tried and tested accumulators! What are we focusing on? Carnage in the last overs of bowling.

How come Mickey Arthur is taking responsibility for selecting Wahab Riaz - but not for selecting Ahmed Shehzad and Azhar Ali as the openers? And a lineup full of accumulators: Hafeez, Malik, Imad Wasim.

How can anyone even dream of chasing the normal 300+ par scores with this team, against any decent side of this era? No, not talking about Zimbabwe, Bangladesh or West Indies!

Pakistan bowling did well by picking up 2 wickets in 41 overs for 213 runs? One of which was a run out and the other of a rank full toss that on any other day would have been 6?

I am sorry but you are not making sense.

What did you expect?

A clatter of wickets to fall from 213-2 as Indians conserved their wickets to launch the final onslaught?

We bowled defensively and got caught on the counter. England, New Zealand attack in first 10 overs while India consolidates in first 10.

Had we done our homework we would not be gloating over 213-2 in 41 overs.

Secondly, if a bowling team leaks 72 in last 4, which is not even a norm for associate nations (on the off chance you might be even tempted to consider 70 in last 4 a norm) , the batsmen suddenly come under pressure because they know a 280 target is now 320 runs.

I don't care which team in the world you are. If the opposition scores 320 runs, its extremely hard for chasing team to win.

Australia were on their way down against NZ 300 score before rain intervened to save them.


Yes, our batting is terrible and should be chasing 250-300 with ease.

But our bowlers should be giving sane targets to limited batsmen.

Asking them to chase 350 is NOT THE NORM.

How many teams have chased 350?

Or 320?

Its hard to chase gallons of runs even if you are Viv Richards what to talk of any normal batsmen.

 

[Hawkeye]

The data is obsolete. Trends have changed. If a team scores 380, opposition might not chase it down but they do score 360 as a reply. What did Pakistan do?

This is true, [MENTION=68690]Statsman[/MENTION] . Although the figures in my post may be exaggerated a bit, but you get the point. Any decent team these days will at least get to 300-320+ when chasing 350.

Pakistan bowling did well by picking up 2 wickets in 41 overs for 213 runs? One of which was a run out and the other of a rank full toss that on any other day would have been 6?

I am sorry but you are not making sense.

What did you expect?

A clatter of wickets to fall from 213-2 as Indians conserved their wickets to launch the final onslaught?

We bowled defensively and got caught on the counter. England, New Zealand attack in first 10 overs while India consolidates in first 10.

Had we done our homework we would not be gloating over 213-2 in 41 overs.

Secondly, if a bowling team leaks 72 in last 4, which is not even a norm for associate nations (on the off chance you might be even tempted to consider 70 in last 4 a norm) , the batsmen suddenly come under pressure because they know a 280 target is now 320 runs.

I don't care which team in the world you are. If the opposition scores 320 runs, its extremely hard for chasing team to win.

Australia were on their way down against NZ 300 score before rain intervened to save them.


Yes, our batting is terrible and should be chasing 250-300 with ease.

But our bowlers should be giving sane targets to limited batsmen.

Asking them to chase 350 is NOT THE NORM.

How many teams have chased 350?

Or 320?

Its hard to chase gallons of runs even if you are Viv Richards what to talk of any normal batsmen.

Read my post above your quote.

Any decent side would score at least 300 when chasing anything above 350.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan bowling did well by picking up 2 wickets in 41 overs for 213 runs? One of which was a run out and the other of a rank full toss that on any other day would have been 6?

I am sorry but you are not making sense.

What did you expect?

A clatter of wickets to fall from 213-2 as Indians conserved their wickets to launch the final onslaught?

We bowled defensively and got caught on the counter. England, New Zealand attack in first 10 overs while India consolidates in first 10.

Had we done our homework we would not be gloating over 213-2 in 41 overs.

Secondly, if a bowling team leaks 72 in last 4, which is not even a norm for associate nations (on the off chance you might be even tempted to consider 70 in last 4 a norm) , the batsmen suddenly come under pressure because they know a 280 target is now 320 runs.

I don't care which team in the world you are. If the opposition scores 320 runs, its extremely hard for chasing team to win.

Australia were on their way down against NZ 300 score before rain intervened to save them.


Yes, our batting is terrible and should be chasing 250-300 with ease.

But our bowlers should be giving sane targets to limited batsmen.

Asking them to chase 350 is NOT THE NORM.

How many teams have chased 350?

Or 320?

Its hard to chase gallons of runs even if you are Viv Richards what to talk of any normal batsmen.

Good post. My point as well. Some suggest as if Pakistan chases 320 with ridiculous ease every other day that too in England. Pakistan's strength is traditionally bowling even when they had great batsmen.

 

[wasimjunior]

Pakistan bowling did well by picking up 2 wickets in 41 overs for 213 runs? One of which was a run out and the other of a rank full toss that on any other day would have been 6?

I am sorry but you are not making sense.

What did you expect?

A clatter of wickets to fall from 213-2 as Indians conserved their wickets to launch the final onslaught?

We bowled defensively and got caught on the counter. England, New Zealand attack in first 10 overs while India consolidates in first 10.

Had we done our homework we would not be gloating over 213-2 in 41 overs.

Secondly, if a bowling team leaks 72 in last 4, which is not even a norm for associate nations (on the off chance you might be even tempted to consider 70 in last 4 a norm) , the batsmen suddenly come under pressure because they know a 280 target is now 320 runs.

I don't care which team in the world you are. If the opposition scores 320 runs, its extremely hard for chasing team to win.

Australia were on their way down against NZ 300 score before rain intervened to save them.


Yes, our batting is terrible and should be chasing 250-300 with ease.

But our bowlers should be giving sane targets to limited batsmen.

Asking them to chase 350 is NOT THE NORM.

How many teams have chased 350?

Or 320?

Its hard to chase gallons of runs even if you are Viv Richards what to talk of any normal batsmen.

Dr Sahab perhaps you should do your homework. 300 is a par score nowadays.

Flat English pitches have been the norm for many years and the fielding restrictions, 2 ball rule which stops any reverse swing and the make up of the balls which has been changed has resulted in 300 now being a score which Bangladesh even make with quite alot of ease.

Which team bowls any team out for less than 200 now? In this tournament in the first 4 days we had 4 different batsmen score hundreds, with ease.


We bowled fantastically against india (wahab excluded) and at the end lost our nerve for a few overs. Up until over 40 that score was WAY below par, and Hassan Ali/Amir were truly amazing. Even despite the thrashing at the end India's score in those conditions was PAR, and I truly believe South Africa, Australia, England would have chased it for fun.
[MENTION=63075]hawkeyes[/MENTION] point is beyond a chase. Yes it is tough to score 300 in a chase with scoreboard pressure, but the way we bat we cant even do it batting first. And that is why this team will continue to lose.

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

324 in 48 overs or 289 in 41 overs, thats nearly 7 an over. Chasing that is NOT a norm yet

In recent times (last 5 years), teams have chased 330+ 6 times, 4 of them by India, one each by SA and England! Aus or NZ have not successfully chased 330+ recently

300-305 is par but add another 15 runs and that still, more often than not, is a match winning total.

 

[Savak]

India, Australia, England, NZ and co would have chased it.

 

[Lynx]

Oh come on, Pak Passion 'experts.' The poster's right. A score of 325 or below while chasing is an absolute cake walk for any decent batting side. Hence, the score India posted, even after numerous misfields by Pakistan, was par at best. Teams recently have aced targets of 340-450 within 47-48 overs. We have a horrible batting line up that can't chase scores of 300 consistently (maybe once in a blue moon) against any full strength side that is not WI or Bangladesh to save their lives.

 

[msb314]

324 in 48 overs or 289 in 41 overs, thats nearly 7 an over. Chasing that is NOT a norm yet

In recent times (last 5 years), teams have chased 330+ 6 times, 4 of them by India, one each by SA and England! Aus or NZ have not successfully chased 330+ recently

300-305 is par but add another 15 runs and that still, more often than not, is a match winning total.

Good stats you gave us but its not like we fell short by 20-30 runs batting at a RR of 6+.

We were bundled out for 154 - that is just pathetic

 

[Sherlock]

Huh? I think you're understating how much fans realise the batting was/is atrocious, hence the majority of posts were about the likes of Azhar/Shehzad/Hafeez etc.

 

[DoosraTeesra]

Both Bowling and Batting was disastrous. In fact EMBARRASSING

 

[desi_launda]

I dont think Pakistan has the hitters to routinely chase 275+

 

[saeedhk]

Since yesterday, the team's coach, captain, media back home, almost every PPer has been mentioning bowling failure as the reason for the loss.

Nobody - coach, captain, selectors seem to realize that chasing scores around 320-350 is an absolute NORM in this era. Pakistan's bowling actually did very well until the last 4 to 5 overs.

Where did we fail? It's our batting - the long train of tried and tested accumulators! What are we focusing on? Carnage in the last overs of bowling.

How come Mickey Arthur is taking responsibility for selecting Wahab Riaz - but not for selecting Ahmed Shehzad and Azhar Ali as the openers? And a lineup full of accumulators: Hafeez, Malik, Imad Wasim.

How can anyone even dream of chasing the normal 300+ par scores with this team, against any decent side of this era? No, not talking about Zimbabwe, Bangladesh or West Indies!

Exactly. This is the most pertinent question which everyone is ignoring. When you choose openers like Shahzad and Azhar, chasing any score over 220 becomes a big task.These two would have been ideal batsmen if it was the early 1990's.

 

[WC-Passion]

I dont think Pakistan has the hitters to routinely chase 275+

Mainly because all our potential hitters have low IQ's and I'm not sure what they are trying to off the field e.g Sharjeel,Latif, Umar and Maqsood.

 

[hadi123]

I'm 100% sure Eng, SA, Aus and maybe NZ would have chased it down on that pitch. Extremely flat pitch. Not that high RRR and India didn't even field or bowl that well

 

[Pollack]

Thanks goodness there were no Umpiring 50-50 decisions. Otherwise Pakistani fans would cling on to that. Dropped catches or not Pakistan was going to get hammered by Indian team anyway. That's the new norm. Get used to it brothers.

 

[The_Odd_One]

OP is right. It was a par score. If Pakistan had posted this score, India would have chased it.

Also, the problem does not lie with not chasing 320 but getting out for 154.

 

[Major]

300 is not par score.

A good bowling attack could still get you out in 250

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

Both Bowling and Batting was disastrous. In fact EMBARRASSING

Add fielding to the list and you get a trifecta.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

It wasn't a par score, 324 in 48 is equivalent to 340+ in 50 overs

 

[kingusama92]

That wasn't par score.

It was definitely 15-20 runs over. But this certainly doesn't excuse the atrocious batting display and complete lack of intent.

This batting order probably would have folded chasing 250 with their approach.

 

[Jatt_bonebreaker]

how many times pakistan have chased scored over 320 successfully.. and how many times scores over 350 been chased historically

 

[ToeCrusher2]

That wasn't par score.

It was definitely 15-20 runs over. But this certainly doesn't excuse the atrocious batting display and complete lack of intent.

This batting order probably would have folded chasing 250 with their approach.

They put no pressure on the Indian bowling, there was no way pak was ever going to chase that total, even on their best day, but if you keep tuk tuking with req rate rising, then the opposition doesn't even have to do anything, it makes it very easy to win, as much as I was happy about winning, I was a bit disappointed because our bowlers weren't tested at all. The batting conditions were spectacular once the sun came out, I am very sure that sri lanka would have giving a lot more headache to Indian bowlers in those conditions

 

[Abdullah]

Bowling was fine except the last 4 and wahab.
It's the batting that is nor.ally a problem.
But the last 4 overs killed the game momentum wise.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

320 in 48 overs is not par score , it is above par score, not many times you see chase of 330+ in 50 overs

 

[Madplayer]

where is this new data pray tell?

I meant the data isnt relevant in case of Pakistan's performance against India the other day.

How many times have teams scored 300 while chasing a target of over 300 in last 5 years? This will give u an idea of what i am trying to say. Trends have changed. Scoring 300 in reply is not uncommon now.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

I meant the data isnt relevant in case of Pakistan's performance against India the other day.

How many times have teams scored 300 while chasing a target of over 300 in last 5 years? This will give u an idea of what i am trying to say. Trends have changed. Scoring 300 in reply is not uncommon now.

Not a lot, time to update your knowledge, Aus, India, England and South africa have scored more than 300 in reply just 6, 8, 6, 5 times respectively in the last 5 years

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team

On the other hand,
Teams have scored more than 300 batting first, a lot more times, and when ever a team scores more than 300 batting first, they rarely lose the game as can be seen from the win/loss ratio below

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team

 

[Madplayer]

Not a lot, time to update your knowledge, Aus, India, England and South africa have scored more than 300 in reply just 6, 8, 6, 5 times respectively in the last 5 years

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team

On the other hand,
Teams have scored more than 300 batting first, a lot more times, and when ever a team scores more than 300 batting first, they rarely lose the game as can be seen from the win/loss ratio below

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team

Thank you.

You think these numbers are less? It clearly shows that the trends are changing and teams are replying with 300 scores more than they have in the history of the game.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

See New Zealand is also struggling, not like Pak but it is still way behind asking rate and that too in the chase of 310, may be NZ can win this but chasing 330 in 50 or 324 in 48 overs is really tough.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Par totals huh in what world. England bowling unit is poorer than india's. NZ batting is better than pakistan's. They are struggling. 300 is a tough chase even when the teams are evenly balanced .

 

[ftbno1]

Par totals huh in what world. England bowling unit is poorer than india's. NZ batting is better than pakistan's. They are struggling. 300 is a tough chase even when the teams are evenly balanced .

Pakistani fans will go to any length to give cover to their bowling.Had India scored 400 they would have said Pak batsmen should have chased Par score as it is a NORM.
They are not ready to accept that their bowling is inferior to Indian bowing.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

So NZ lost chasing 310 in 50 overs, Australia was in trouble in chasing 300 and Lanka lost after getting great start again in chase of 300 and Pak had to chase 324 in 48 overs , way tougher . Par score in that match was 280-290 in 48 overs but your bowlers bowled really bad in death overs.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Thank you.

You think these numbers are less? It clearly shows that the trends are changing and teams are replying with 300 scores more than they have in the history of the game.

The no. is still not significant enough, also the target for pakistan was 324, just checked the data for last 5 years and very few teams have posted 320+ in reply in the last 5 years, chasing 320+ is still not the norm in 50 overs, 324 in 48 overs is certainly not a norm, even australia, south africa or england wouldn't have chased that total, australia has never chased a 320+ total in the last 5 years, they have posted 320+ in reply just once.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team