"The decision to not send anyone to the post-match presentation was a "flow-on effect" of that initial incident": Mike Hesson

[Cricket Warrior]

Mike Hesson in a post match press conference:

Q: Why didn't the teams shake hands at the end of the match, and why did Pakistan not send anyone to the post-match presentation?

Hesson: We were ready to shake hands, but the opposition had already gone into the changing room. We were disappointed by that. The decision to not send anyone to the post-match presentation was a "flow-on effect" of that initial incident.

Q: Your openers, Farhan and Sam, have been out of form. Why are you persisting with them? Do you have any better options?

Hesson: Both of them had been averaging 40 up until the last few matches and have performed particularly well for us. While we have lost a little momentum, I have full confidence in them to quickly turn their form around.

Q: Why was Haris Rauf not playing? Is he fit?

Hesson: Yes, he is certainly fit. The decision was based on the pitch. It was a spin-friendly wicket, and both sides' seamers bowled very few overs. We didn't need another seamer on this pitch.

Q: Why did you decide to bat first, especially since this ground has a history of favoring teams that chase?

Hesson: While there is a history of chasing teams winning, these used surfaces are slow and get slower. Runs on the board can be a big advantage. However, we didn't bat well enough. We were about 20 or 30 runs short, and we got squeezed in the middle overs.

Q: This loss exposes some of the team's inadequacies. Do you think this makes your job as a coach more difficult?

Hesson: Today, we were outplayed, and we can't hide from that. But we've performed very well with the bat recently. We may not have huge names, but we have quality players who "scrap really hard" and have over-performed in the majority of games we've played. We're not far off.

Q: Will you be making any changes for the next match?

Hesson: Our next game is on the 17th, and it's a must-win for us. We need to play better than we did today. We need to be more disciplined with the bat and the ball, but I was pleased with the character we showed in the field. I'm confident in the group to come back stronger.

Q: Half of your squad was playing their first match against India. Was the loss due to nerves or pressure, or a difference in quality?

Hesson: I think our batting was a little "frenzied" at the start. The ball held in the surface as we expected, but we didn't respond well. We got squeezed in the middle overs, which built up a lot of pressure. I believe the more big games you play, the more trust you have in your own game.

Q: It looked like the Pakistan middle order was unable to pick the Indian spinners. Is this a worrying sign?

Hesson: I don't think it was an issue of picking the spinners. It's about what you do once you've picked them. The Indian bowlers built pressure with their accuracy and by bowling a lot of dot balls. This pressure played tricks with our minds, and we ended up playing big shots. It was a build-up of pressure, not an inability to pick the spinners.

 

[Major]

Good from Pakistan.

Plus Susriya made that pehalgam comments, so it was good the Pakistani team wasnt there to hear that garbage.

If you dont wana shake hands, why bother showing up for the Post match ceremony. ICC and ACC will get frustrated with what happened, because their sponsors expect to make money from these ceremonies

 

[pakistani pride]

Can he just zip it?
20/30 runs short? You were atleast 50 runs short.

Also the comment about handshakes, you have bigger worries then handshakes!

 

[Usman Chadda]

Such a censored transcript, an Indian reporter rightfully asked Hesson about the club level batters playing for Pakistan right now.

There is a massive gulf in quality to be honest, and this will be evident against Sri Lanka aswell. Some fans are tuning in now, but we saw in the tri-series that these boys couldn’t pick spin from the hand. Rashid got smacked because he didn’t bowl well, otherwise we were going nowhere in that final too.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Good from Pakistan.

Plus Susriya made that pehalgam comments, so it was good the Pakistani team wasnt there to hear that garbage.

If you dont wana shake hands, why bother showing up for the Post match ceremony. ICC and ACC will get frustrated with what happened, because their sponsors expect to make money from these ceremonies

ask Naqvi about CT final

 

[sweep_shot]

Very poor from India. Very petty.

Then again, this is to be expected from the sanghis.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Very poor from India. Very petty.

Then again, this is to be expected from the sanghis.

If it was any other team, it'd lit a fire under their bonnet & they'd want to avenge this humiliation.

 

[pakistani pride]

If it was any other team, it'd lit a fire under their bonnet & they'd want to avenge this humiliation.

Not this lot, they might still be waiting for Indian players to come and shake hands!

 

[Usman Chadda]

If it was any other team, it'd lit a fire under their bonnet & they'd want to avenge this humiliation.

Lack of skill cannot be overcome by any fire in the belly.

Let’s be honest here, this was not a bad day. This was lack of skill horrendously exposed infront of the world, yet again.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Lack of skill cannot be overcome by any fire in the belly.

Let’s be honest here, this was not a bad day. This was lack of skill horrendously exposed infront of the world, yet again.

Ok tell me honestly which team would have fared better in these condtion against kuldeep axar and varun don't name england or australia we know how they would have got smashed here as well so tbh there aren't many teams who can tackle these spinners just have to hope they give you loose balls.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Ok tell me honestly which team would have fared better in these condtion against kuldeep axar and varun don't name england or australia we know how they would have got smashed here as well so tbh there aren't many teams who can tackle these spinners just have to hope they give you loose balls.

They would have competed, this was a no-show and tbh most of us called it from a mile away before the game.

This team does not have the required skill to play at international level anymore. International cricket is not just about intent, it’s about playing that particular bowler well aswell. Most of our batters have extremely limited skillsets and good bowlers, who are used to bowling to much better batsmen, will get them out by sticking to a basic plan.

We are just too far behind and it’s reflected in the rankings. Fans going after this team do not understand that it’s a new template and we need to absorb some painful lessons along the way.

I’m not sure why everyone thought we would become this world beater team once we dropped RizBar. Yes we eradicated the mindset of playing for one’s ownself, but these batters are not the answer to top international level cricket otherwise they would have been playing instead of Babar and Rizwan before.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

They would have competed, this was a no-show and tbh most of us called it from a mile away before the game.

This team does not have the required skill to play at international level anymore. International cricket is not just about intent, it’s about playing that particular bowler well aswell. Most of our batters have extremely limited skillsets and good bowlers, who are used to bowling to much better batsmen, will get them out by sticking to a basic plan.

We are just too far behind and it’s reflected in the rankings. Fans going after this team do not understand that it’s a new template and we need to absorb some painful lessons along the way.

I’m not sure why everyone thought we would become this world beater team once we dropped RizBar. Yes we eradicated the mindset of playing for one’s ownself, but these batters are not the answer to top international level cricket otherwise they would have been playing instead of Babar and Rizwan before.

Look i get what you are saying but let's be honest england team got absolutely smashed vs india in india by the way those weren't spin pitches either same england team is now bullying south africa all i am saying england couldn't play these indian spinners in flat tracks what chance do this pak team has against them in uae pak did alright vs afghan spinner who are world class in these conditions got the above par scores just have to do same here hesson pointed out its about playing them well that's all.

 

[Mamoon]

Nice acting by Hesson and his losers. These clowns think they made a statement by doing this.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Look i get what you are saying but let's be honest england team got absolutely smashed vs india in india by the way those weren't spin pitches either same england team is now bullying south africa all i am saying england couldn't play these indian spinners in flat tracks what chance do this pak team has against them in uae pak did alright vs afghan spinner who are world class in these conditions got the above par scores just have to do same here hesson pointed out its about playing them well that's all.

Pakistan didn’t do alright against Afghanistan, just won the final because Afghanistan’s batting is terrible and they rely on only two players for a score.

Our batters were struggling to pick the spinners from the hand, look at Noor’s figures in both games he played against us.

England did badly in India yes, but you have to consider what our team has to offer, not talk about what England can or cannot do. At this point of time, this team will get exposed brutally by Hasaranga and Theekshana aswell. I don’t see Pakistan beating Sri Lanka unless someone in the team hits a purple patch and goes on an unstoppable run.

The gulf in class between the Sri Lankan batsmen and Pakistan batsmen is quite big too, if you don’t believe me then please turn on yesterday’s game and look at some of the shots Nissanka and Mishara played.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Pakistan didn’t do alright against Afghanistan, just won the final because Afghanistan’s batting is terrible and they rely on only two players for a score.

Our batters were struggling to pick the spinners from the hand, look at Noor’s figures in both games he played against us.

England did badly in India yes, but you have to consider what our team has to offer, not talk about what England can or cannot do. At this point of time, this team will get exposed brutally by Hasaranga and Theekshana aswell. I don’t see Pakistan beating Sri Lanka unless someone in the team hits a purple patch and goes on an unstoppable run.

The gulf in class between the Sri Lankan batsmen and Pakistan batsmen is quite big too, if you don’t believe me then please turn on yesterday’s game and look at some of the shots Nissanka and Mishara played.

Didn't the same sri lankan team got embarrassed all out for 80 runs vs zimbabve like i said in cricket anything can happen you just have to play better on the day when everything goes your way you pick spinners from their hands everything look in good order.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Lack of skill cannot be overcome by any fire in the belly.

Let’s be honest here, this was not a bad day. This was lack of skill horrendously exposed infront of the world, yet again.

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

Bumrah is good, Pandya is a gali level bowler, Axar is nothing special, Varun even today looked meh, & Kuldeep in my personal opinion as I've stated in another thread is a very average bowler.

The issue with the batters is that they all looked defeated even before stepping in. That's fear that numbed them down & they failed badly.

If it was me, this would be the beginning of the upward curve in my story. The kind of point from which you pull everything together and start your renaissance/redemption arc.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Didn't the same sri lankan team got embarrassed all out for 80 runs vs zimbabve like i said in cricket anything can happen you just have to play better on the day when everything goes your way you pick spinners from their hands everything look in good order.

That was actually a bad day for them.

There is a night and day difference between how Lanka batters play, and what our batsmen are doing. Just go and watch the highlights of yesterday’s game and you will go through this realization, I’m sure of it.

We collapsed to spin against Afghanistan twice, once to UAE and now here to India. Wonder what filth Abrar and Sufiyan are bowling to these guys in the nets/practice matches.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

That was actually a bad day for them.

There is a night and day difference between how Lanka batters play, and what our batsmen are doing. Just go and watch the highlights of yesterday’s game and you will go through this realization, I’m sure of it.

We collapsed to spin against Afghanistan twice, once to UAE and now here to India. Wonder what filth Abrar and Sufiyan are bowling to these guys in the nets/practice matches.

Then it's pakistan batsmen fault who should be learning from their own mystery spinners abrar and sufiyan they should be adopted by now by playing these 2 guys.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

Bumrah is good, Pandya is a gali level bowler, Axar is nothing special, Varun even today looked meh, & Kuldeep in my personal opinion as I've stated in another thread is a very average bowler.

The issue with the batters is that they all looked defeated even before stepping in. That's fear that numbed them down & they failed badly.

If it was me, this would be the beginning of the upward curve in my story. The kind of point from which you pull everything together and start your renaissance/redemption arc.

They might not be good bowlers according to you, but they are beyond our players’ capabilities.

We had this exact same conversation this year in CT, the skill required to get them away is missing from our batsmen. No amount of jazba and delaeri will fix that in the short term.

 

[Mamoon]

I won’t be surprised if Naqvi pulled off this stunt. Hesson is a PCB puppet anyway.

 

[Banda298]

Ok tell me honestly which team would have fared better in these condtion against kuldeep axar and varun don't name england or australia we know how they would have got smashed here as well so tbh there aren't many teams who can tackle these spinners just have to hope they give you loose balls.

kitna gehra pyaar hai paijaan tumhe mulq ke liye...waah waah

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

They might not be good bowlers according to you, but they are beyond our players’ capabilities.

We had this exact same conversation this year in CT, the skill required to get them away is missing from our batsmen. No amount of jazba and delaeri will fix that in the short term.

My memory isn't that sharp nor am I interested in cricket that much to remember this conversation, so accept my apologies.

My point isn't that the skill gap isn't there, my point is just that they need to be fearless. They have been defeated, humiliated on and off the field, there's literally nothing that can happen which is worse than this.

Let go of the shackles and fight.

 

[Banda298]

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

Bumrah is good, Pandya is a gali level bowler, Axar is nothing special, Varun even today looked meh, & Kuldeep in my personal opinion as I've stated in another thread is a very average bowler.

The issue with the batters is that they all looked defeated even before stepping in. That's fear that numbed them down & they failed badly.

If it was me, this would be the beginning of the upward curve in my story. The kind of point from which you pull everything together and start your renaissance/redemption arc.

When u says Bumrah is good goes to show the burn level burnol u apply every night

Bumrah Kuldeep are Top 3 in their class currently in the world and probably top 10 of all time. learn to appreciate talent

 

[Usman Chadda]

My memory isn't that sharp nor am I interested in cricket that much to remember this conversation, so accept my apologies.

My point isn't that the skill gap isn't there, my point is just that they need to be fearless. They have been defeated, humiliated on and off the field, there's literally nothing that can happen which is worse than this.

Let go of the shackles and fight.

There is, we can lose to UAE and crash out of the tournament on Wednesday

 

[shamaan]

Pakistan was around 50 runs short

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan didn’t do alright against Afghanistan, just won the final because Afghanistan’s batting is terrible and they rely on only two players for a score.

Our batters were struggling to pick the spinners from the hand, look at Noor’s figures in both games he played against us.

England did badly in India yes, but you have to consider what our team has to offer, not talk about what England can or cannot do. At this point of time, this team will get exposed brutally by Hasaranga and Theekshana aswell. I don’t see Pakistan beating Sri Lanka unless someone in the team hits a purple patch and goes on an unstoppable run.

The gulf in class between the Sri Lankan batsmen and Pakistan batsmen is quite big too, if you don’t believe me then please turn on yesterday’s game and look at some of the shots Nissanka and Mishara played.

Nissanka is a test class player. His 127 not out in 4th innings at the Oval was sublime. He navigated the chase effortlessly. So on a tricky pitch SL is likely to adjust better than Pakistan batsmen who don't have decent first class experience.

 

[Savak]

They would have competed, this was a no-show and tbh most of us called it from a mile away before the game.

This team does not have the required skill to play at international level anymore. International cricket is not just about intent, it’s about playing that particular bowler well aswell. Most of our batters have extremely limited skillsets and good bowlers, who are used to bowling to much better batsmen, will get them out by sticking to a basic plan.

We are just too far behind and it’s reflected in the rankings. Fans going after this team do not understand that it’s a new template and we need to absorb some painful lessons along the way.

I’m not sure why everyone thought we would become this world beater team once we dropped RizBar. Yes we eradicated the mindset of playing for one’s ownself, but these batters are not the answer to top international level cricket otherwise they would have been playing instead of Babar and Rizwan before.

Pakistani batsmen problems and inadequacy against spin is not surprising. Warrican ran through our test batting line up when we prepared a rank turner against the West Indies and all he needed was an arm ball to create confusion and doubt in our batsmens mind.

How many really good world class spinners have Pakistan really produced in the past 10 years? Yasir Shah the moment he stepped out of UAE became so ordinary that the PCB was forced to drop him. After the ICC crackdown on chucking Ajmal, Hafeez our trusted reliable spin choke options in the middle overs in T20 and ODI Cricket were ineffective and Afridi by the end of his career was a spent force as a bowler.

The fact Pakistan had been relying on the likes of Shadab, Imad Wasim and later Nawaz as their premier spin options in T20 and ODI Cricket should tell you how bad our spin options in our domestic cricket really are.

When our domestic cricket structure is no longer producing quality spinners, when our somatic domestic batsmen are not regularly tested against quality spinners on rank turners day in day out, how will our batters handle quality spinners in international cricket?

Indian batsmen are comfortable against most top spinners from opposition sides because they get to play on rank turners in their domestic structure and get to practice against the best spinners available in international cricket in the nets.

PCB has to identify the root cause of our spin playing problems and start from there.

 

[daytrader]

Both of them had been averaging 40 up until the last few matches and have performed particularly well for us. While we have lost a little momentum, I have full confidence in them to quickly turn their form around.

Surprised that he's going back to the average logic. I thought we were going to prioritize strike rates instead and momentum instead

 

[JaDed]

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

Bumrah is good, Pandya is a gali level bowler, Axar is nothing special, Varun even today looked meh, & Kuldeep in my personal opinion as I've stated in another thread is a very average bowler.

The issue with the batters is that they all looked defeated even before stepping in. That's fear that numbed them down & they failed badly.

If it was me, this would be the beginning of the upward curve in my story. The kind of point from which you pull everything together and start your renaissance/redemption arc.

No bro, Axar and Kuldeep are really good , they have bad days but they put in a lot of effort on exponentially enhancing their skills when performing, performing to a plan requires skill and belief, Kuldeep’s after game speech proved that.

 

[AZulfi]

Can he just zip it?
20/30 runs short? You were atleast 50 runs short.

Also the comment about handshakes, you have bigger worries then handshakes!

Agreed. Needed 180 +/- to challenge a strong batting side like India

 

[CricVet]

Many Pakistanis live in a lala Land thinking about any positive relationship with these lowlife critters. Get out of your high horse. There is nothing bigger than pride. Stop this hugging and kissing. Treat them the way they are supposed to be treated. Play harder next time with senses intact - Win or lose, stay away from this opponent.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

When u says Bumrah is good goes to show the burn level burnol u apply every night

Bumrah Kuldeep are Top 3 in their class currently in the world and probably top 10 of all time. learn to appreciate talent

Unsolicited advise is not required by me so keep it to yourself.

The scale I used didn't have superlatives or adjectives, it's a good, ordinary, bad scale in simplistic terms. And Kuldeep isn't being rated on his stats, it's on perception that I have which is clearly stated in my statement (thing about perception is they can be proven wrong as well).

 

[pakistani pride]

Many Pakistanis live in a lala Land thinking about any positive relationship with these lowlife critters. Get out of your high horse. There is nothing bigger than pride. Stop this hugging and kissing. Treat them the way they are supposed to be treated. Play harder next time with senses intact - Win or lose, stay away from this opponent.

Thats the whole point, the job is to play good cricket. What matters before of after that, should not be their worry!

 

[Bhaijaan]

Finally some “intent” shown by PCT.

 

[Varun]

What a non issue.

Win the game before whining about shaking hands or the colour of the floodlights.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Viewership in Pakistan is an all time low, for an India Pakistan encounter this certainly wasn't expected. Finally Pakistanis are parting with cricket junoon, thanks to poor performances and lack of super stars.

 

[Sachin fan]

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

Bumrah is good, Pandya is a gali level bowler, Axar is nothing special, Varun even today looked meh, & Kuldeep in my personal opinion as I've stated in another thread is a very average bowler.

The issue with the batters is that they all looked defeated even before stepping in. That's fear that numbed them down & they failed badly.

If it was me, this would be the beginning of the upward curve in my story. The kind of point from which you pull everything together and start your renaissance/redemption arc.

India is the no 1 T20 team and won the tournament without losing a single match.

The bowling attack they are carrying is specific specific to these pitches and have other attacks for other pitches.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It is a shame to see coaches like Ten Doeschete and Hesson having to become embroiled in this furore as a result of unprofessional Indian actions.

Indian team sadly turned the match into club football hooliganism. They had the upper hand with the emphatic victory but were forced to go down this route to appease an inflamed domestic audience.

Modi and BJP have really done a number here. Meddle in Kashmir, get people killed, blame Pakistan, present chocolate as evidence and then behave like this.

As I have said in other threads, I have no issues with the players and coaches ( except Gambhir) but I'm surprised that seemingly intelligent people can fall for this stuff.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It is a shame to see coaches like Ten Doeschete and Hesson having to become embroiled in this furore as a result of unprofessional Indian actions.

Indian team sadly turned the match into club football hooliganism. They had the upper hand with the emphatic victory but were forced to go down this route to appease an inflamed domestic audience.

Modi and BJP have really done a number here. Meddle in Kashmir, get people killed, blame Pakistan, present chocolate as evidence and then behave like this.

As I have said in other threads, I have no issues with the players and coaches ( except Gambhir) but I'm surprised that seemingly intelligent people can fall for this stuff.

Yes it's unprofessional, but this is an emotional game for them now. So whatever they do, it puts them in a bad light not us. Pakistan's response has been childish to be honest, just crying all over the place about a bunch of players not shaking hands. This is a concentrated effort to take the heat off the players and how they failed to show up yesterday.

There were calls to boycott this game from a number of people in India, so I wasn't surprised at all when the Indian team walked off as any shaking of hands would lead to campaigns against these same players. Salman Agha aswell was well within his rights to not appear for the post match ceremony. It happened yesterday, it will happen again and if the best we can do is sook around while our players are playing like kittens, I guess we should be the ones actually boycotting these games.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Pakistani batsmen problems and inadequacy against spin is not surprising. Warrican ran through our test batting line up when we prepared a rank turner against the West Indies and all he needed was an arm ball to create confusion and doubt in our batsmens mind.

How many really good world class spinners have Pakistan really produced in the past 10 years? Yasir Shah the moment he stepped out of UAE became so ordinary that the PCB was forced to drop him. After the ICC crackdown on chucking Ajmal, Hafeez our trusted reliable spin choke options in the middle overs in T20 and ODI Cricket were ineffective and Afridi by the end of his career was a spent force as a bowler.

The fact Pakistan had been relying on the likes of Shadab, Imad Wasim and later Nawaz as their premier spin options in T20 and ODI Cricket should tell you how bad our spin options in our domestic cricket really are.

When our domestic cricket structure is no longer producing quality spinners, when our somatic domestic batsmen are not regularly tested against quality spinners on rank turners day in day out, how will our batters handle quality spinners in international cricket?

Indian batsmen are comfortable against most top spinners from opposition sides because they get to play on rank turners in their domestic structure and get to practice against the best spinners available in international cricket in the nets.

PCB has to identify the root cause of our spin playing problems and start from there.

We do have decent spinners, but they bowl to different batters not the ones in the national team. The likes of Noman, Abrar, Sajid etc are Pakistan domestic cricket products, but our batters barely play four day cricket and get jumped to the national team based on PSL performances. Unfortunately, the players who do play these spinners are no good either so we need to understand what really is the quality of cricket back in our domestic circuit. Before selecting XYZ, we should look at their stats against the best spinners or pace bowlers of the competition. Lack of qualitative data is missing when we do our selections, which is something top teams in sport have moved on to. You might have someone averaging less, but scored more meaningful runs against the likes of Noman, Abrar, Sajid etc.

Scouts are important, and unfortunately in our system, scouts are next to useless and it's all about parchis.

There's so much wrong man, it's an absolute miracle Pakistan is still playing international cricket. Our system compared to even Sri Lanka and Bangladesh has been destroyed so badly in the past decade or so, that you really wonder how on earth are we even remotely competitive. Our cricket is really surviving only based on our players' talent, as there is literally no pathways nor the right infrastructure for a player to develop in our country.

There will come a time that the players will stop showing up too, as more and more kids move away from this sport.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes it's unprofessional, but this is an emotional game for them now. So whatever they do, it puts them in a bad light not us. Pakistan's response has been childish to be honest, just crying all over the place about a bunch of players not shaking hands. This is a concentrated effort to take the heat off the players and how they failed to show up yesterday.

There were calls to boycott this game from a number of people in India, so I wasn't surprised at all when the Indian team walked off as any shaking of hands would lead to campaigns against these same players. Salman Agha aswell was well within his rights to not appear for the post match ceremony. It happened yesterday, it will happen again and if the best we can do is sook around while our players are playing like kittens, I guess we should be the ones actually boycotting these games.

We may have to play them multiple times. No harm in trying to take the heat off them a bit. The reality is we are currently a second tier side and should have expectations accordingly.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

Bumrah is good, Pandya is a gali level bowler, Axar is nothing special, Varun even today looked meh, & Kuldeep in my personal opinion as I've stated in another thread is a very average bowler.

The issue with the batters is that they all looked defeated even before stepping in. That's fear that numbed them down & they failed badly.

If it was me, this would be the beginning of the upward curve in my story. The kind of point from which you pull everything together and start your renaissance/redemption arc.

Lol Bumrah, Axar, Kuldeep, Varun are great bowlers.

Axar has a WC SF MoM. God level defensive bowler.

Varun/Kuldeep are killer aggressive options.

Bumrah - T20 GOAT. MoT in last WC.

Arshdeep - T20 player of the year last year

All their stats and achievements point to how good they are.

India is the no 1 ranked team and the world champions.

But merely "decent" lol.

 

[Aami]

Its all *** for tat .. handshake no handshake.
Lets beat these guys on Sunday...

 

[Savak]

We do have decent spinners, but they bowl to different batters not the ones in the national team. The likes of Noman, Abrar, Sajid etc are Pakistan domestic cricket products, but our batters barely play four day cricket and get jumped to the national team based on PSL performances. Unfortunately, the players who do play these spinners are no good either so we need to understand what really is the quality of cricket back in our domestic circuit. Before selecting XYZ, we should look at their stats against the best spinners or pace bowlers of the competition. Lack of qualitative data is missing when we do our selections, which is something top teams in sport have moved on to. You might have someone averaging less, but scored more meaningful runs against the likes of Noman, Abrar, Sajid etc.

Scouts are important, and unfortunately in our system, scouts are next to useless and it's all about parchis.

There's so much wrong man, it's an absolute miracle Pakistan is still playing international cricket. Our system compared to even Sri Lanka and Bangladesh has been destroyed so badly in the past decade or so, that you really wonder how on earth are we even remotely competitive. Our cricket is really surviving only based on our players' talent, as there is literally no pathways nor the right infrastructure for a player to develop in our country.

There will come a time that the players will stop showing up too, as more and more kids move away from this sport.

This is why i supported the PCB Champions Cup Idea because there has to be one full fledged 4 day, ODI and T-20 tournament which all the centrally contracted national team players have to fully play with no exceptions. The challenge for the PCB was to find a time slot for these tournaments when the national team players are fully available for these tournaments with no international commitments and no T-20 leagues either and ofcourse to hold it at a time, venue in Pakistan where the weather in Pakistan was good for cricket. The goal of the Champions Cup format was to involve all the national team players, the creme players in Pakistani domestic cricket, A, U19 team and the top performers in the Quaid-e-Azam, Hanif Mohd trophy.

The reason why the PCB scrapped it was not because it was not working, but because the PCB under Naqvi has badly mishandled its finances due to which they are secretly launching cost cutting measures across the board and the media under the threat of gunpoint is being put under pressure to keep it all under wraps.

 

[Banda298]

Unsolicited advise is not required by me so keep it to yourself.

The scale I used didn't have superlatives or adjectives, it's a good, ordinary, bad scale in simplistic terms. And Kuldeep isn't being rated on his stats, it's on perception that I have which is clearly stated in my statement (thing about perception is they can be proven wrong as well).

So much verbal football isnt necessary too.

Kuldeeps stats , the absolute fear he instills in opposition, not just on sponning tracks but even pace friendly tracks shows he is top 3 in the world up there with Zampa and Hasaranga

The way Pak batters simply capitulated to him showed the actual fear and pressure. and this when they have genuine quality, and potential match winner spinners like Muqeem Abrar etc in nets

ur absolute ignorance regarding Bumrah and Kuldeep reveals ur inner self

 

[Banda298]

Indian team is decent but it's also not the world beater that they are think they are.

I believe there is internet and newspaper in Uganda ? Which team is the current winner of T20 WC AND Champioms trophy?

Perceptions only seem relevant if based on facts...and not veiled ignorant hate

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

Should make a rule now, no handshakes ever against India or anyone not even fist bumps. Just go back to the dressing room. If teams want to act like this is war then treat it like war.

At least no one will be losing 6 fighter jets

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Should make a rule now, no handshakes ever against India or anyone not even fist bumps. Just go back to the dressing room. If teams want to act like this is war then treat it like war.

At least no one will be losing 6 fighter jets

Proof is all over social media paijaan

Maybe declare this match won on social media as well?

 

[Vikram1989]

Proof is all over social media paijaan

Maybe declare this match won on social media as well?

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Pak vs Ind: Sahibzada Farhan creates history, hits Bumrah for first six by a Pakistani

DUBAI: Sahibzada Farhan etched his name into the record books on Sunday as he became the first-ever Pakistani batter to strike Jasprit Bumrah for a six in international cricket — ending a 400-ball wait.The moment came in the...

www.geo.tv

They were able to hit bumah for 6 first time.thats what matters.no need to mention score anywhere

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Pak vs Ind: Sahibzada Farhan creates history, hits Bumrah for first six by a Pakistani

DUBAI: Sahibzada Farhan etched his name into the record books on Sunday as he became the first-ever Pakistani batter to strike Jasprit Bumrah for a six in international cricket — ending a 400-ball wait.The moment came in the...

www.geo.tv

They were able to hit bumah for 6 first time.thats what matters.no need to mention score anywhere

He put it on his tiktok too lolololol

 

[Vikram1989]

He put it on his tiktok too lolololol

Level of pak delusion is astounding

 

[Devadwal]

He put it on his tiktok too lolololol

@Rana here is proofs Pakistan did won the match against India as Farhan hit total 3 six and Pakistan ne india ke 3 wickets gira diye.

So.. 6-0 victory for Pakistan on 14 September at the Dubai cricket ground.

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

Moyo legend