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A Pakistan court has ordered the election commission to allow the registration of Mumbai terror attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed's Milli Muslim League as a political party.

The order came days after a Pakistani court extended a stay against the "possible arrest" of the JuD chief till April 4.

The Islamabad High Court (IHC) yesterday set aside a decision by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to reject the application of Jamaat-ud-Dawah's political front Milli Muslim League (MML) for registration as a political party.

Justice Aamer Farooq sent the case back to the ECP asking it to proceed further on the application by giving the party an opportunity of hearing, Dawn newspaper reported.

The MML through its president Saifullah Khalid approached the IHC and made the ECP and the interior secretary respondents in the matter.

Challenging the ECP's order of October 11, 2017, the petition described it unreasonable, illegal as well as against the Constitution and the law.

"Article 17 (2) of the Constitution confers a fundamental right on every citizen, not being in the service of Pakistan, to form or to be a member of a political party, subject to any reasonable restriction imposed by the law in the interest of the sovereignty or integrity of Pakistan," the petitioner maintained.

He pleaded the court to set aside the order and direct the ECP to scrutinise the documents afresh, strictly in accordance with the law and enlist the party.

The ECP had turned down the plea of the MML because of its alleged links with banned militant outfits.

The ECP took the decision on the basis of a letter from the Ministry of Interior which had asked the commission to ban the MML for having links with banned militant outfits.

The ministry had stated that the JuD and its charity Falah-i-lnsaniyat Foundation (FIF) were banned organisations under the Pakistan Security Council Act 1948.

The court's latest order also comes in the backdrop of a meeting of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), an intergovernmental money-laundering watchdog, that put Pakistan on a grey list.

At the FATF meeting in Paris last month, Saeed and his "charities" were top on the list of the groups that the FATF wanted Pakistan to act against.
The US Department of the Treasury has designated Saeed as a global terrorist.

Saeed, who is accused of having masterminded the November 2008 Mumbai attack, was also placed on the terrorism black list by the United Nations in December 2008.

The banned JuD head was released from the house arrest in November last year after the Pakistan government decided against detaining him further in any other case. He was under house arrest since January last year.
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Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ium=social&utm_campaign=TOI&utm_content=om-bm
 
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Hafiz Saeed challenges ordinance banning JuD

ISLAMABAD: Hearing a petition filed by Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed challenging the presidential ordinance under which his group has been banned for being on the watchlist of the United Nations, Justice Aamer Farooq of the Islamabad High Court (IHC) on Friday issued notices to the principal secretary to the president and the secretaries of law, Cabinet Division and Establishment Division.

President Mamnoon Hussain last month promulgated an ordinance amending the Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997 with regards to proscription of terrorist individuals and organisations to include entities listed by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) — in a move to declare Hafiz Saeed-linked JuD and Falah-i-Insaniyat Foundation (FIF) as proscribed groups.

The ordinance amends Sections 11-B and 11-EE of the Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997 (XXVII of 1997). Section 11-B sets parameters for proscription of groups, whereas 11-EE describes the grounds for listing of individuals.

Both sections would now include Sub-Section ‘aa’, according to which organisations and individuals “listed under the United Nations (Security Council) Act, 1948 (XIV of 1948), or” will be included in the First Schedule (for organisations) and Fourth Schedule (for individuals), respectively, on an ex-parte basis.

Under Section 11-EE, the requirements were: “(a) concerned in terrorism; (b) an activist, office-bearer or an associate of an organisation kept under observation under section 11D or proscribed under section 11B; and (c) in any way concerned or suspected to be concerned with such organisation or affiliated with any group or organisation suspected to be involved in terrorism or sectarianism or acting on behalf of, or at the direction of, any person or organisation proscribed under this Act.”

Hafiz Saeed contended in the petition that he established JuD in 2002 and cut off all ties with the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) but India continued to malign JuD for its past association with the banned outfit.

The petitioner said he was twice — in 2009 and 2017 — kept in detention due to India’s pressure. He added that the UNSC passed a resolution against JuD after which the government of Pakistan kept it in the watchlist.

The JuD chief termed it against the sovereignty of Pakistan that an ordinance was issued to ban his organisation.

The petition contends that Pakistan is a sovereign state, but through this ordinance, its sovereignty has been jeopardised.

It claims that the promulgation of the ordinance and addition of Section 11-EE is not only prejudicial to the sovereignty but also contradictory to the fundamental rights enshrined in the Constitution of Pakistan. It adds that any law which is violative of constitutional provisions is liable to be struck down.

The petition suggests that under Article 199 of the Constitution is competent to strike down any legislation which is beyond the scope of constitution or ultra vires.

It requested the court that the vires of ordinance and consequent amendment in section 11 B and 11-EE of ATA may be declared illegal.

Justice Farooq after initial hearing issued notices to respondents and adjourned further hearing till the third week of March.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1394344/hafiz-saeed-challenges-ordinance-banning-jud
 
Good. Pakistan has found Hafiz innocent that is what matters. He has never called for the killing of Indian's or Hindu people. Show me where he has if anyone disagree's. I am no fan of Hafiz neither do I follow his brand of Islam. What I am saying is that we can not punish an innocent man just because the UN, America or India say so. After Iraq's illegal invasion by America where we were told of weapons off mass destruction that were never found they and the UN are no one to lecture us on terrorism. No reason to stop Hafiz from registering. Pak courts are free, we all know that.
 
BlackShadow said:
Pakistan making India's job easier. Global blacklisting is a matter of time.
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What?? Keep dreaming? If Pak did nothing you'd say we're not speaking!!:amir2 The whole world is seeing what your coward army is doing in IoK. I do want Pak to be far more less dependent on America so reducing ties will be beneficial in the long run where as there will be no black listing. Come back with that one when it happens. I don't want Pak to be America's lapdog with it's tongue always out like India is.
 
Pak has been blacklisted before I believe. Later we were taken off the list as well. The most important thing is a patriotic government in Pak has to be installed. Sort the internal problems and the external ones will follow.
 
Hafeez Saeed will one day become PM of Pakistan. A deserving and able successor to people like Ayub Khan, Zia-ul-Haq and Musharraf.

Bravo!
 
English August said:
Hafeez Saeed will one day become PM of Pakistan. A deserving and able successor to people like Ayub Khan, Zia-ul-Haq and Musharraf.

Bravo!
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Hafeez Saeed has probability of getting killed by India's RAW than becoming a PM of Pakistan. Considering how good of an intelligent agency RAW was when they directed that bollywood style Sur G kal Strike fictional for their Indian audience.
 
English August said:
You appear to be talking about it with a great deal of pride! Hint: it's not good to be black-listed even if you're taken off the list later.
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Of course it's not good. The point I am making is that we'll survive even if we are.
 
www787 said:
Hafeez Saeed has probability of getting killed by India's RAW than becoming a PM of Pakistan. Considering how good of an intelligent agency RAW was when they directed that bollywood style Sur G kal Strike fictional for their Indian audience.
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You appear to be confused. Surgical strikes were carried out by the army, not RAW.

Either ways, you own Hafeez Saeed. He's now part of Brand Pakistan, just like OBL, Dawood Ibrahim, Masood Azhar, etc.
 
English August said:
You appear to be confused. Surgical strikes were carried out by the army, not RAW.

Either ways, you own Hafeez Saeed. He's now part of Brand Pakistan, just like OBL, Dawood Ibrahim, Masood Azhar, etc.
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I guess had raw directed the movie it would have been a better quality.

He is a Pakistani citizen. But he won’t become PM of any nation unlike Modi.
 
So how comes *Innocent until proven guilty* applies to every other country but not Pakistan?

A point to ponder.
 
PakLFC said:
What?? Keep dreaming? If Pak did nothing you'd say we're not speaking!!:amir2 The whole world is seeing what your coward army is doing in IoK. I do want Pak to be far more less dependent on America so reducing ties will be beneficial in the long run where as there will be no black listing. Come back with that one when it happens. I don't want Pak to be America's lapdog with it's tongue always out like India is.
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Really? Yet I wonder no one else apart from Pakistan even cares to speak of Kashmir.
 
PakLFC said:
What?? Keep dreaming? If Pak did nothing you'd say we're not speaking!!:amir2 The whole world is seeing what your coward army is doing in IoK. I do want Pak to be far more less dependent on America so reducing ties will be beneficial in the long run where as there will be no black listing. Come back with that one when it happens. I don't want Pak to be America's lapdog with it's tongue always out like India is.
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I wonder which country has been receiving alms from America since so many years with a begging bowl, India or Pakistan :))
 
Hitman said:
I wonder which country has been receiving alms from America since so many years with a begging bowl, India or Pakistan :))
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USA's agenda is Afghanistan. Look up the history. It was USA that pleaded with Pakistan to use Pakistan's bases, and PAID for the privilege, not the other way round.

We all know that India is aching to plead to the USA in reference to China, but USA will never go face to face with China. Plus it's not like Bangladesh is a world threat or on the Neocon agenda is it? :)
 
R3verse Swing said:
USA's agenda is Afghanistan. Look up the history. It was USA that pleaded with Pakistan to use Pakistan's bases, and PAID for the privilege, not the other way round.
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This is what your dear leader Musharraf was quoted as saying in The Guardian.

"The intelligence director told me that (Mr Armitage) said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the stone age'," Gen Musharraf was quoted as saying.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/sep/22/pakistan.usa

In Pakistani English, this is called "pleading."
 
It's pretty hilarious to see some keyboard warriors, who don't even live in Pakistan, extending their support towards a UN sanctioned terrorist becoming their PM. Much like most of their political elite and army jernails, whose kids are foreign nationals so they are the least affected lot of this potential disaster.
 
Another example of pleading was when India begged the UN to help out with the Kashmir issue.

Turns out no one really gives a hoot about the UN, including USA, Israel, Russia, and China - to name but a few.
 
Moh@n said:
It's pretty hilarious to see some keyboard warriors, who don't even live in Pakistan, extending their support towards a UN sanctioned terrorist becoming their PM. Much like most of their political elite and army jernails, whose kids are foreign nationals so they are the least affected lot of this potential disaster.
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There is so much irony in the post it is not even funny. The Indians who champion lies in this thread, along in other threads do not live in India either but come to defend India at all costs.

Love is blind I suppose.

Oh and no one cares about the UN.
 
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I would forget the UN. Governments like USA and UK made their intentions pretty clear with Modi. A banned terrorist. Then again, innocent until proven guilty! :/
 
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Modi is the terrorist who should be hanged. He even admits being responsible for killing so many Muslim's in Gujarat. India is the only country that has a terrorist PM, congratulations!. How many Indian's living outside India spew hatred against Pak so why don't you attack them. You have a far higher expat population on the WWW and worldwide then we do, hypocrites that you are. I don't respect the UN at all, where was your UN when Iraq was illegally attacked? How about all the kid's off your Bollywood actors all studying abroad that you are on about Pak army kid's doing that? It is none of your business where they study, okay. Mind your own business!
 
R3verse Swing said:
I would forget the UN. Governments like USA and UK made their intentions pretty clear with Modi. A banned terrorist. Then again, innocent until proven guilty! :/
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I forgot the UN a long while back! That why I say Pak should do what it wants so what they say about Hafiz don't matter an iota! You can have any relations with anyone, Pak don't give a damn!
 
Let's forget the nonsense, answer my simple question : Why does *Innocent until proven guilty* apply to every country but Pakistan?

Don't give me this hoo-haa about the UN recognising Hafeez as a terrorist, when the USA and UK recognised Modi as a terrorist.

Answers on a postcard please.
 
Still no answer to my question on why Innocent until proven guilty applies to all nations but Pakistan?

We all know the answer.
 
R3verse Swing said:
There is so much irony in the post it is not even funny. The Indians who champion lies in this thread, along in other threads do not live in India either but come to defend India at all costs.

Love is blind I suppose.

Oh and no one cares about the UN.
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Here is your own media saying exactly what I posted, but hey, "let's peddle this lie that Indians are spreading lies because that's how we roll".

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Moh@n said:
Here is your own media saying exactly what I posted, but hey, "let's peddle this lie that Indians are spreading lies because that's how we roll".

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Exactly what you posted? The point was you made a comment about Pakistanis living abroad defending Pakistan. I do not need to know what the media says when you have Indians living abroad defending India! Of course, I grant you, they are not Indian in the eyes of the Indian government.

Now, explain to me why *Innocent until proven guilty* does not apply to Pakistan? Hint, you do not need the media to help you.
 
Also have to laugh, a media video on Trump, who was not even responsible for when USA setup bases in Pakistan.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Exactly what you posted? The point was you made a comment about Pakistanis living abroad defending Pakistan. I do not need to know what the media says when you have Indians living abroad defending India! Of course, I grant you, they are not Indian in the eyes of the Indian government.

Now, explain to me why *Innocent until proven guilty* does not apply to Pakistan? Hint, you do not need the media to help you.
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No need to get your knickers in a twist. I too wish Mr. Saeed becomes the next Pak PM.

Inshallah :)
 
Moh@n said:
No need to get your knickers in a twist. I too wish Mr. Saeed becomes the next Pak PM.

Inshallah :)
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In other words you cannot explain why *innocent until proven guilty* does not apply to Pakistan.

Thought us much.

:)
 
Moh@n said:
It's pretty hilarious to see some keyboard warriors, who don't even live in Pakistan, extending their support towards a UN sanctioned terrorist becoming their PM. Much like most of their political elite and army jernails, whose kids are foreign nationals so they are the least affected lot of this potential disaster.
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Do not get twisted, He will never become PM. Pakistan isn't India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Which is why a internationally sanctioned and UN sanctioned terrorist can become PM in Pakistan.
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can but won't, Pakistani isn't Indian who would elect extremist hardliner religious fanatic like India.

Currently India has elected religious extremist. Pakistan has never elected religious extremist and probably never will.
 
Pity Pakistan hasn’t learned the lesson even after the incidents like Peshawar. Snakes aren’t known as loyal pets..
 
Gotham Cronie said:
Cry all you want, the Pakistan government doesn't care what you think.

The Pakistani courts have not found him guilty, buck stops there.
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Then why the daily hate posts and mudslinging on Modi about Godhara riots when Indian courts cleared him long time ago? At least Hafij Saeed has an India connection with alleged involvement in Mumbai attacks. Modi dont even have anything to do with Pakistan and yet you would see threads propping up here on a regular basis falsely accusing him for instigating violence and calling him terrorist etc.
Don't you see the hypocrisy here?
 
:)) Indians really found this news hard to take.

I'm no fan of his but if someone hasn't been convicted , he/she has the right to what they like within the law.

Indians voted in Modi, they should be the last one to complain. :)
 
KingKhanWC said:
:)) Indians really found this news hard to take.

I'm no fan of his but if someone hasn't been convicted , he/she has the right to what they like within the law.

Indians voted in Modi, they should be the last one to complain. :)
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By that logic stop calling Modi a terrorist. He was cleared by the judiciary too :)
 
TM Riddle said:
By that logic stop calling Modi a terrorist. He was cleared by the judiciary too :)
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Sure and that's why he can run for office. Who we call a terrorist can also be down to personal opinion, we dont have to look to the US every time we need to decide what to eat or drink.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Sure and that's why he can run for office. Who we call a terrorist can also be down to personal opinion, we dont have to look to the US every time we need to decide what to eat or drink.
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Fair enough KKWC. But then again in India's case we didn't just rely on US for Saeed's confirmation of being a terrorist. India had a proofs available against him. Therefore Indians every right to get infuriated when this **** walks freely in Pakistan.
 
TM Riddle said:
Fair enough KKWC. But then again in India's case we didn't just rely on US for Saeed's confirmation of being a terrorist. India had a proofs available against him. Therefore Indians every right to get infuriated when this **** walks freely in Pakistan.
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They should make these proofs available to the public domain. If you know of these ,please share. If indeed there is proof he is behind the deaths of any Indian innocent civilian, I and most Pakistanis will not support any of his rights as a citizen.
 
KingKhanWC said:
They should make these proofs available to the public domain. If you know of these ,please share. If indeed there is proof he is behind the deaths of any Indian innocent civilian, I and most Pakistanis will not support any of his rights as a citizen.
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I dunno about public domain but they were definitely made available to the relevant Pakistani authorities who apparently rejected them. So just like how you have absolute belief in your courts decisions I too have full confidence on the veracity of claims made by my Govt when they said Saeed masterminded the whole operation. Just a matter of faith in this case. But the picture changes when a reputed neutral international organization like UN backs India's cause and declare him and his party as Terrorist Organization.
Now you might claim here that UN are a bunch of Amriki lapdogs having no credibility but by going down that route you lose credibility yourself when you cite United Nations report highlighting Indian atrocities in Kashmir.
Therefore you see it's a vicious cycle of blames and clearly only one country emerges out as a victor :)
 
It should be duly noted, Pakistan's Supreme Court ruled PM Sharif could not lead his party.

There is no favouritism in the eyes of the law.

All that is needed is evidence/proof.
 
Same is the case with the India's Supreme Court.
All that is needed to convict Modi is evidence/proof :)
 
R3verse Swing said:
As a straight talker I have that effect. You wouldn't be the first to dislike me.

Always happy to help though! :)
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You have the charisma gotta give that to you. It's just that I absolutely detest anyone who takes Climate change lightly. One of the major reasons why I hate Trump so much.
 
TM Riddle said:
Same is the case with the India's Supreme Court.
All that is needed to convict Modi is evidence/proof :)
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You have only come to this conclusion after I questioned why *Innocent until proven guilty* doesn't apply to Pakistan.

Such is the power of the truth.

I sincerely hope the next time such topics arise you will be a real *gentlemen* and not just correct your brethren but remind them the truth is not exclusive.
 
www787 said:
can but won't, Pakistani isn't Indian who would elect extremist hardliner religious fanatic like India.

Currently India has elected religious extremist. Pakistan has never elected religious extremist and probably never will.
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Pakistan is built on the basis of a religion. What are you on about?
 
TM Riddle said:
I dunno about public domain but they were definitely made available to the relevant Pakistani authorities who apparently rejected them. So just like how you have absolute belief in your courts decisions I too have full confidence on the veracity of claims made by my Govt when they said Saeed masterminded the whole operation. Just a matter of faith in this case. But the picture changes when a reputed neutral international organization like UN backs India's cause and declare him and his party as Terrorist Organization.
Now you might claim here that UN are a bunch of Amriki lapdogs having no credibility but by going down that route you lose credibility yourself when you cite United Nations report highlighting Indian atrocities in Kashmir.
Therefore you see it's a vicious cycle of blames and clearly only one country emerges out as a victor :)
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I'm not blindly accepting Pakistan's rejection of these proofs which is why I have said if they were public, we could make up our own minds. If Pakistan has rejected them, India should release the evidence to embarass them but they aren't?

As for the UN or any organistion, you dont have to reject everything or accept all they say. I use the UN for my argument only if others quote the UN as being an authority and being correct.

But if you read the UN's official summary of they listed him, it doesn't mention India even though the groups he maybe involved in maybe accused of harming India or it's interests. It mainly focuses on Iraq, Al-Qaeda and Afghanistan which all are sensitive due to 911.
 
Gotham Cronie said:
Cry all you want, the Pakistan government doesn't care what you think.

The Pakistani courts have not found him guilty, buck stops there.
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No one is crying. The reality of Pakistan govt is very well known. Thats why the GOI has stopped all dialogues and downgraded relations.
 
Gotham Cronie said:
Cry all you want, the Pakistan government doesn't care what you think.

The Pakistani courts have not found him guilty, buck stops there.
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The accused is a UN sanctioned terrorist who was involved in killing of 167 people of various nationalities in a foreign country. So the buck doesnot stop with Pakistani courts. Just like Pakistan couldnot keep OBL even if he was innocent in Pakistan's eyes.

Btw can you tell why he isnt beig tried in military courts like other terrorists?
 
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Bal Thackary openly ruled Mumbai, a right wing Hindu extremist
Modi is the PM of India

I am not fan of Hafiz, but if there is no evidence against him, he cannot be banned.

If India has evidence against him, make it public. Take him to court on that evidence and get him banned.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The accused is a UN sanctioned terrorist who was involved in killing of 167 people of various nationalities in a foreign country. So the buck doesnot stop with Pakistani courts. Just like Pakistan couldnot keep OBL even if he was innocent in Pakistan's eyes.

Btw can you tell why he isnt beig tried in military courts like other terrorists?
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UN is the most useless organisation in the world. Countries respect it when they want and they ignore it when they want. Again, if the UN has evidence against him, bring it to courts and get him banned.

If you are so sure to call someone a terrorist, that means you have evidence against them. If not, you better be ready for a defamation case!
 
asifp said:
UN is the most useless organisation in the world. Countries respect it when they want and they ignore it when they want. Again, if the UN has evidence against him, bring it to courts and get him banned.

If you are so sure to call someone a terrorist, that means you have evidence against them. If not, you better be ready for a defamation case!
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My sentiments exactly. To this day, I still fail to understand how they did not intervene in Rwanda during
that horrific three months in 1994. Frankly, it's outrageous and people need to be brought to book over it.
I guess a lack of oil played a big part in the decision making.
 
Kroll said:
My sentiments exactly. To this day, I still fail to understand how they did not intervene in Rwanda during
that horrific three months in 1994. Frankly, it's outrageous and people need to be brought to book over it.
I guess a lack of oil played a big part in the decision making.
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The list is on and on. What have they done to stop anything in Africa or in the recent past the mass murders and wars in Syria. They sat back as the western fighters bombed the crap out of Iraq, Libya etc.

Its a paper tiger.
 
asifp said:
The list is on and on. What have they done to stop anything in Africa or in the recent past the mass murders and wars in Syria. They sat back as the western fighters bombed the crap out of Iraq, Libya etc.

Its a paper tiger.
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And of course, oil was involved with these countries.
 
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asifp said:
Bal Thackary openly ruled Mumbai, a right wing Hindu extremist
Modi is the PM of India

I am not fan of Hafiz, but if there is no evidence against him, he cannot be banned.

If India has evidence against him, make it public. Take him to court on that evidence and get him banned.
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He is already banned by UN and in every country except Pakistan.
 
asifp said:
UN is the most useless organisation in the world. Countries respect it when they want and they ignore it when they want. Again, if the UN has evidence against him, bring it to courts and get him banned.

If you are so sure to call someone a terrorist, that means you have evidence against them. If not, you better be ready for a defamation case!
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Yes Hafiz Saeed will file defamation againist almost all countries in the world since he is banned in almost all countries, except Pakistan.

UN is useless since the narrative isnt suitable.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He is already banned by UN and in every country except Pakistan.
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And a UN ban is worth what? What has UN done on the security to gain any credibility?

Was it the same UN that believed in the presentation given by Colin P on finding WMD in Iraq.

The big boys use the UN as a puppet, I am sorry, if UN had any teeth and credibility half the **** going on in the world would have been stopped before it started.

why does the UN not make it public the evidence it has aginst Hafiz Saeed?
 
asifp said:
And a UN ban is worth what? What has UN done on the security to gain any credibility?

Was it the same UN that believed in the presentation given by Colin P on finding WMD in Iraq.

The big boys use the UN as a puppet, I am sorry, if UN had any teeth and credibility half the **** going on in the world would have been stopped before it started.

why does the UN not make it public the evidence it has aginst Hafiz Saeed?
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100%.

UN is like Agony Aunt in the The Sun newspaper. :)
 
If this Saeed fellow is guilty (which I think he is) as proposed by various institutions then he must be brought to justice to improve Pakistans image in the international community. People on both sides behaving like 5 year olds just to claim that they are right and the politicians using that for their own personal gain. Pathetic.
 
Moh@n said:
That does not have anything to do with the "Hafiz Saeed is innocent" argument.
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It has everything to do with it, if only you followed the thread.

Just because people of Pakistan have an opinion doesn't mean the man is guilty. I leave it to you to make the connection with Modi.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Good night.
 
So today we learn on PP that the great Pakistani Judiciary System is more credible than the United Nations :)))
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=142736]English August[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
 
R3verse Swing said:
As a straight talker I have that effect. You wouldn't be the first to dislike me.

Always happy to help though! :)
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Straight talker ? :))) you are more a determined dead beat argues for the sake of arguing even when you have been soundly beaten black and blue ... bloody hell you danced around like a russian ballet dancer on the other thread where you got properly cornered on the topic of Pakistan vs India when it comes to who has more minorities in top positions.

Since you ran away from that thread here is the answer : Pakistan constitution Simply does not allow non-muslims to become presidents.

https://pakistanconstitutionlaw.com/article-41-the-president/

(2) A person shall not be qualified for election as President unless he is a Muslim of not less than forty-five years of age and is qualified to be elected as member of the National Assembly. 1[(3) The President 2[****] shall be elected in accordance with the provisions of the Second Schedule by the members of an electoral college consisting of—
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Tusker said:
Straight talker ? :))) you are more a determined dead beat argues for the sake of arguing even when you have been soundly beaten black and blue ... bloody hell you danced around like a russian ballet dancer on the other thread where you got properly cornered on the topic of Pakistan vs India when it comes to who has more minorities in top positions.

Since you ran away from that thread here is the answer : Pakistan constitution Simply does not allow non-muslims to become presidents.

https://pakistanconstitutionlaw.com/article-41-the-president/
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Oh my.

Still searching for that Muslim appointment since BJP came into power.

I totally forgot about that, you clearly didn't. I do remember how I had to school you on how Indian President's are appointed.

I have this effect. People remember me.

:)
 
R3verse Swing said:
It has everything to do with it, if only you followed the thread.

Just because people of Pakistan have an opinion doesn't mean the man is guilty. I leave it to you to make the connection with Modi.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Good night.
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Modi is not banned in India or anywhere in the world. Hafiz Saeed's organisation was banned by Pakistan themselves and he is banned in almost every country in the world.

If you cannot see the difference then it's a shame.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Oh my.

Still searching for that Muslim appointment since BJP came into power.

I totally forgot about that, you clearly didn't. I do remember how I had to school you on how Indian President's are appointed.

I have this effect. People remember me.

:)
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the only effect you left on me is the comical vision of watching you bolt tail between legs when I asked you how did Abdul Kalam get elected if BJP was opposed to Muslims.

And I can tell that you will do the tail between legs run one more time now.

And the ballet routine dodging answering the Constition of Pakistan point I bought up which does not allow non-muslims to become President of Pakistan.
 
Tusker said:
So today we learn on PP that the great Pakistani Judiciary System is more credible than the United Nations :)))
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Hafiz Saeed is a UN sanctioned terrorist. USA has a bounty on his head. He is banned almost all over the world.

But he is innocent until proven guilty :))
 
Tusker said:
the only effect you left on me is the comical vision of watching you bolt tail between legs when I asked you how did Abdul Kalam get elected if BJP was opposed to Muslims.

And I can tell that you will do the tail between legs run one more time now.

And the ballet routine dodging answering the Constition of Pakistan point I bought up which does not allow non-muslims to become President of Pakistan.
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Adbul Kalam wasn't elected, he was appointed, that too before BJP came into power.

You may not have forgotten me, but you certainly have forgotten your lesson in Indian political process.

English class is 2 doors down the corridor.

Have a good night!

:)
 
Mohammad Azharuddin captained India in three world cups.

Yeah minorities don't get top positions in India. LOL.
 
I don’t know why we are fighting over this? This is in India’s interest if people like Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar, Dawood etc gets support from Pakistani Govt. And recognition and popularity among general population. I wish they become PM or President soon. It’ll make India’s job easier.
 
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