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Q.F.E takes over from N. S and A.M as the most hated and corrupt man in Pakistan
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I always thought he would never be as bad as my worst fears but he is actually worse. He has banned the most popular party that 80% of PKs wanted to vote for. Such pathetic man sitting on such an important seat.Q.F.E takes over from N. S and A.M as the most hated and corrupt man in Pakistan
It clearly indicates that this whole drama is going on to make their masters happy but I am sure that this sort of government won't last for long.I always thought he would never be as bad as my worst fears but he is actually worse. He has banned the most popular party that 80% of PKs wanted to vote for. Such pathetic man sitting on such an important seat.
I am not so sure. They have decided that they can never be out office and they have to die in office. There is is no way Munir, NS,AZ and Nani, and establishment can ever leave office because they will be lynched. There is no half way house anymore and they have backed themselves into a corner which means them or PK people but it can't be both.It clearly indicates that this whole drama is going on to make their masters happy but I am sure that this sort of government won't last for long.
Nobody in an important government office in Pakistan is an angel. Corruption issues related to political parties are nothing more than a hoax. If you were to discover the corruption perpetrated by the military in the last 75 years, you would never again question the corruption of politicians. The magnitude of the volume is so immense and significant.The COD cant be signed unless they have an amnesty and the criminals bring back their money and put it in the national treasury and ask for forgiveness. The chances of that happening is as about as likely as an Alien riding a unicorn in Piccadilly circus on the 32nd of December
I believe the last free and fair elections were held in 2013. Despite Imran Khan's best efforts, supported even by the Ex-military officials, he failed to win more than 25 National Assembly seats. This can be attributed to the effective governance of the Punjab government during 2008-2013, which made them the automatic winners of the General Elections, despite Khan's numerous power shows and political stunts.Agreed.
Establishment has to go back to barracks. They have eaten and destroyed Pakistan in 75 years. They don’t let any government work for the betterment of the country. They are constantly interfering and pulling strings behind scenes. All they do is make videos and blackmail judges and politicians. These people promote corrupt politicians so they are easy to control. All they do is chop and change governments every few years and hence the constant instability and chaos. And the latest wants to bring in billions of dollars from Arabs amid ongoing circus. Nobody will give a dime unless they are know the country is stable and they can pull off profits.
A similar ruling was indeed given by Saqib Nisar in 2018 when he disqualified Nawaz Sharif (NS) and rendered all his party decisions null and void, leading to PML nominees running in the Senate election independently. The strategies and procedures employed in by establishment are not new; they have been used in various forms throughout the country's political history.PTI's legal hopes dim
ISLAMABAD: The legal team of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), wrestling with legal setbacks, has abandoned its contempt petition to signal its wanning optimism in finding an ally in Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Qazi Faez Isa for relief amid current political scenario.
The party's legal journey has witnessed a tense relationship with CJP Isa since September 17 last year. Despite its efforts, including a social media campaign, the PTI has struggled to sway CJP Isa's stance on seeking relief in political matters.
The CJP has also refrained from entertaining a letter from PTI founding chairman Imran Khan, urging notice regarding alleged harassment of party supporters. Similarly, Aitzaz Ahsan's petition, addressing the alleged enforced disappearance of PTI leaders, faced its own decline, adding to the party's legal woes.
The recent move by the Supreme Court, under CJP Isa's leadership, to reinstate the Election Commission of Pakistan's (ECP) decision, declaring PTI's intra-party elections unconstitutional, has dealt another blow.
Consequently, PTI finds itself stripped of its election symbol for the upcoming elections.
However, PTI appears poised for a countermove. Sources suggest that the party is gearing up to challenge the top court’s order, with a review petition in the works. However, senior PTI lawyer confirmed that the filing won't happen immediately,
Some legal experts find themselves perplexed by the party's seemingly contradictory stance. While PTI openly expresses mistrust in CJP Isa, its legal team prepares for a review petition—scheduled to appear before the same bench led by CJP Isa.
The scenario is not the first of its kind, as several political parties in the past have expressed mistrust in the top adjudicators. CJP Isa wouldn’t go down as the only chief justice to earn mistrust.
Notably, the Pakistan People's Party (PPP) voiced mistrust against former CJP Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry during his tenure. Former premier Yousuf Raza Gilani, similarly, refrained from filing an intra-court appeal against his contempt case conviction.
Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) joined the ranks by expressing mistrust in ex-CJP Mian Saqib Nisar. The party opted not to challenge Nisar's judgment, which resulted in Nawaz Sharif's disqualification as the party head.
The PML-N’s decision stemmed from the belief that seeking relief from ex-CJP Saqib Nisar might prove futile.
Both PML-N and PPP also expressed no confidence in the three-judge bench led by ex-CJP Umar Ata Bandial. The development occurred when the ruling on former deputy speaker Punjab Assembly Dost Mazari's case was contested, leading the parties to request the formation of a full court.
A PTI leader says that one faction had held a soft corner for CJP Isa. However, the decision to deny the election symbol has come as an embarrassment for this section of the party.
Notably, Hamid Khan stood by CJP Isa during PTI-led government's filing of a presidential reference against him.
Meanwhile, superior bar associations have maintained silence on the Supreme Court's order.
Press conferences scheduled for today may provide insights, with the Independent Lawyers group expected to voice consistent support for CJP Isa.
However, it is unlikely that representatives of the superior bars will raise objections on the judgement.
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PTI's legal hopes dim | The Express Tribune
Despite efforts, party has struggled to sway CJP Isa's stance on seeking relief in political matterstribune.com.pk
We knew Qazi was crook and his humiliation is thoroughly deserved and the fact that @Mamoon and @Major told us he would be anti establishment man was total rubbish and left them looking like total tools. The guy was caught red handed and got blackmailed, and took the deal. The deal will never be forgotten. NS will become PM but Qazi will live with a blackened face.The judicial murder of democracy has opened a pandora box.
It is now very likely that independents will make up the biggest number in the National Assembly. This means that independents will have the luxury to decide the next PM of the country which now leaves every idiot vying for the top spot be it Nawaz, Bilawal, Shahbaz, Tareen or any other suck-up like Kakar.
The biggest embarrassment will be for our judiciary and especially Supreme Court.
Qazi Faiz Isa along with 2 other judges will be remembered infamously for this verdict. For every controversial verdict in the future the bar will be this verdict. Qazi will eventually move on and retire but this judgement will stay forever which means his name is tarnished forever. Respect is everything when it comes to judiciary and with one stroke of pen respect is the biggest causality today.
More independents means more democracy. Democracy going granular. Otherwise when most of the seats are restricted to 2-3 parties, they all have to follow party whip and sing in unison according to party high command.The judicial murder of democracy has opened a pandora box.
It is now very likely that independents will make up the biggest number in the National Assembly. This means that independents will have the luxury to decide the next PM of the country which now leaves every idiot vying for the top spot be it Nawaz, Bilawal, Shahbaz, Tareen or any other suck-up like Kakar.
The biggest embarrassment will be for our judiciary and especially Supreme Court.
Qazi Faiz Isa along with 2 other judges will be remembered infamously for this verdict. For every controversial verdict in the future the bar will be this verdict. Qazi will eventually move on and retire but this judgement will stay forever which means his name is tarnished forever. Respect is everything when it comes to judiciary and with one stroke of pen respect is the biggest causality today.
More independents means more men in Parliament available to sell their rights to the highest bidder. In Pakistan political law if an individual is not part of any party / alliance then that individual can sway or vote for in any capacity they like. In Pakistan these "individuals" will be getting their votes on the day on the back of Imran's PTI blessing. Yet eventually we would see them jump ships because we as a nation or individuals don't have the backbone to sustain pressure and on flip side the oppressors don't have any shred of shame, accountability or remorse to ease on oppression in other words Pharaoh vs Bani Israel (read it up).More independents means more democracy. Democracy going granular. Otherwise when most of the seats are restricted to 2-3 parties, they all have to follow party whip and sing in unison according to party high command.
But strange to see people still thinking democracy as some kind of silver bullet. Pakistan doesn't need democracy, it needs proper rule of Islam, for which it was created.
The thing is this decision is universally frowned upon from all sects of society be that liberals, social media, journalists or any other branch as it vehemently took away the voting rights (this is a fundamental right in our constitution) from over 10 million people with a stroke of pen. Let alone this decision is being criticised internationally as well so all 3 of the Judges will face international boycott for forums, interviews, alumni events too.We knew Qazi was crook and his humiliation is thoroughly deserved and the fact that @Mamoon and @Major told us he would be anti establishment man was total rubbish and left them looking like total tools. The guy was caught red handed and got blackmailed, and took the deal. The deal will never be forgotten. NS will become PM but Qazi will live with a blackened face.
And all the humiliation is thoroughly deserved. Qazi and the team will never be able to face the public. And just like SS and his burka, they need to start shoppingThe thing is this decision is universally frowned upon from all sects of society be that liberals, social media, journalists or any other branch as it vehemently took away the voting rights (this is a fundamental right in our constitution) from over 10 million people with a stroke of pen. Let alone this decision is being criticised internationally as well so all 3 of the Judges will face international boycott for forums, interviews, alumni events too.
I don't think they understand the consequences of this for example someone like Justice Musarrat Hilali got promoted to Supreme Court very recently and is likely to be a Justice for quite a few years now. She will be reminded and remembered in future years in light of this judgement. She would have to live her rest of professional and personal life in the shadow of this decision.
Just should have said- Munir ordered it be because the duffer can't win with anything resembling a fair election. Isa is a crookSupreme Court issues detailed judgement on PTI intra-party elections, electoral symbol
“The ECP is a constitutional body and amongst its duties are those mentioned in the Constitution, Article 219(e) of which stipulates that ECP must also undertake such functions as prescribed by law, which would include those mentioned in the Act. Section 208 of the Act mandates that political parties must hold intra party elections periodically, and that a period not exceeding five years elapse within two elections. It further stipulates that every member of a political party ‘be provided with an equal opportunity of contesting election for any political party office.”
“Members of PTI were not provided nomination papers when they went to get them nor were any intra party elections held. Incidentally, the notice issued by the PTI Secretariat stated that the elections were to be held in Peshawar but did not mention the venue, and then the venue was shifted to Chamkani, which is a village adjacent to Peshawar.”
“Neither before the LHC nor before the PHC, any provision of the Act, including section 215(5), was challenged.”
“We also do not agree with the learned Judges that the ECP did not have ‘any jurisdiction to question or adjudicate the Intra Party Elections of a political party,” concluded the judgement.
Source: Samaa News
Just should have said- Munir ordered it be because the duffer can't win with anything resembling a fair election. Isa is a crook
They have no idea of what to do except to hold PK hostage for the benefit of a crooked elite Led by the EstablishmentI have never seen such outright , open corruption in my life as what is happening now in Pak.
Does these people have no shame, knowing the nation sees whats going on? The audacity is striking.
Easily. It is called the London plan. Apparently the Americans, the Indians and our own Bajwa and Munir were guarantors. The agreement stated that IK would go to jail ( it has happened), PTI would be knocked out( symbol has gone and PTI is banned) and NS will become PM. I bet you guys are wondering how I know this, well the Nooras and their media have been saying this for a year. Let's see if the PK awaam show the bravery that is the need of the hourThis might be the biggest robbery in Pakistan's political history. How can you take out a symbol of such one of the biggest political parties in the country just a few weeks prior to the general election.
Has anybody seen the duffer. When is he going to meet the public?![]()
not the biggest.This might be the biggest robbery in Pakistan's political history. How can you take out a symbol of such one of the biggest political parties in the country just a few weeks prior to the general election.
And the family businesses did?not the biggest.
also they failed to get there intra party election done. Its there fault. Dont give ECP a chance.
Story of PTI, had no idea what they were doing in parliament and one day they wake up that a VONC is happening, so they become desperate and try every trick in there book to destabilize Pakistan but they fail.
Elections date is announced, these guys forget to do a proper intra party election
lol pti.
The PHC threw out the case, but Qazi, who has skeletons in his own cupboard overturned it. We would have seen the truth if even a mafia leaning judge like Minallah been on the bench. it was called the London plannot the biggest.
also they failed to get there intra party election done. Its there fault. Dont give ECP a chance.
Story of PTI, had no idea what they were doing in parliament and one day they wake up that a VONC is happening, so they become desperate and try every trick in there book to destabilize Pakistan but they fail.
Elections date is announced, these guys forget to do a proper intra party election
lol pti.
People know Imran Khan, they are not concerned about any symbol... they will vote even for a 'khamba' on IK's call.Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC) member National Assembly Junaid Akbar said that people voted for Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) backed independent candidates on random symbols just for the PTI founder, ARY News reported
Speaking in the National Assembly session, Junaid Akbar, who along with others joined the SIC after being elected as the PTI-backed independent candidate, said that PTI’s symbol was ‘taken away’ under the garb of May 9 incidents.
“For Imran Khan, the people even voted for symbol of shoe in the General Elections 2024,” he added.
This person Akbar S Babar does not have peace.Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) founding member Akbar S Babar Tuesday filed two separate pleas with the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) challenging the recent intra-party elections of the Imran Khan-founded party.
On January 13, the Supreme Court (SC) upheld the Election Commission of Pakistan’s (ECP) December 22 verdict declaring the party's intra-party polls invalid, leading the party to lose its 'bat' electoral symbol.
In its 11-page order on a petition filed by Babar, a five-member ECP bench — headed by Chief Election Commissioner Sikandar Sultan Raja — declared PTI's intra-party elections unlawful.
In his fresh plea, Babar requested the ECP to annul the recent intra-party elections of the PTI.
It is pertinent to mention here that the Khan-founded party held fresh intra-party elections on March 3.
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So Isa wants an extension and Munir has told him to steal the Reserve seats from the PTI and give them to the mafia. Firstly, its a conflict of interest that he is on the bench, then its bizarre that a party that won the election is deprived of its share because Isa`s earlier decision to take their symbol and deprive them of a party status, which by the way he now claims was wrongly interpreted. If that was the case, why didnt Isa call them and tell them that their interpretation is wrong( off course both Isa and ECP are criminal pods in the same pea) and then the munafiq Isa pretends that PTI chose not to contest the election as party and voluntarily chose to go the SIC. And the fact that ECP lied under oath is ok with the criminal Isa and the SC. The ISI will get to work and you will see a historically dishonest decision by the SC judges tomorrow and the 2/3rd majority will be given to guys that didnt win 50 seats in the whole PK. Lets hope i am wrong because the consequences of the criminality of Isa and co will reverberate for the next 3 decades.The Supreme Court's (SC) full bench led by Chief Justice Pakistan (CJP) Qazi Faez Isa has reserved its verdict regarding the Sunni Ittehad Council's (SIC) case on reserved seats, requesting to dismiss SIC’s appeal and uphold the verdict of the Peshawar High Court (PHC) on the matter
The full court, led by CJP, heard the case. The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has already submitted a written response to the apex court, stating that the SIC is no longer entitled to the reserved seats. It reiterated that the SIC’s eligibility was compromised on several grounds.
The court announced that the reserved verdict on the SIC case will be announced after consultation.
Today's hearing
At the outset of the hearing, Faisal Siddiqui, a senior counsel representing the SIC, raised significant allegations against the ECP, accusing it of failing to fulfil its duties transparently.
"Their [Election Commission's] response on allegations of dishonesty regarding reserved seats for the Balochistan Awami Party was inadequately substantiated," SIC's counsel contended.
He cited that in 2018, the Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) did not win any seats, but they were allocated three reserved seats.
The chief justice pressed for clarity on the ECP's adherence to constitutional texts in their decision-making processes, asking, "Was the Election Commission's decision regarding reserved seats for the Balochistan Awami Party under the law?"
To which the SIC's counsel responded that the ECP had not conducted a transparent allocation process for reserved seats, as he cited precedents and legal texts to support his arguments.
"Did the Balochistan Awami Party participate in the elections in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa?" asked Justice Irfan Saadat.
Advocate Siddiqui clarified that the Balochistan Awami Party participated but did not win any seats.
"Political parties cannot be arbitrarily denied their rightful share of representation," CJP Isa remarked.
CJ Jamal Khan Mandokhail queried, "Is the Election Commission treating all political entities equally in terms of seat allocation?"
The court noted that there is a distinction between political parties and parliamentary decisions made within Parliament.
"Political parties do not have the authority to make such decisions," Justice Jamal Mandokhail emphasized while noting that parliamentary parties are not bound to follow political decisions.
He continued, "Just as the prime minister cannot vote, parliamentary parties are not bound to implement political party decisions."
"You're absolutely right," acknowledged Siddiqui as Mandokhail's statement drew laughter from the courtroom.
The court raised a question regarding what would happen if a political party were to secure seats in several provinces but none in a particular province.
"The Balochistan Awami Party won seats in other provinces but none in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa. The Election Commission's lack of transparency is evident," Siddiqui accused.
"Do you want the Supreme Court to take judicial notice?" CJP Isa inquired.
He continued, "If not, why mention it? If you want to file a case regarding the 2018 elections, do it"
The SIC's counsel Advocate urged if the "Election Commission was behaving discriminatorily, the Supreme Court should examine it."
"Does this mean the 2018 Election Commission was correct?" the CJP further questioned.
"The Greeks used to say if they couldn't speak with evidence, they would punish the individual," Siddiqui likened.
"Is the Greek example a good argument? Is it constitutional?" CJP Isa probed.
"Not a good argument, but their [ECP's] hypocrisy is evident," Siddiqui countered.
Justice Mandokhel queried the potential implications for those individuals who are associated with the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) but later joined the Sunni Council (SIC).
"If an independent candidate declares affiliation, they can join it [SIC]," PTI's legal counsel Salman Akram Raja said.
The PTI's counsel explained that PTI-backed SIC candidates did have any other choice apart from joining SIC. He further noted that whatever precedent ECP set about independents before was their fault.
The court has reserved the verdict and adjourned the hearing.
The ECP on March 1 refused to allot these reserved seats to the SIC. The Peshawar High Court (PHC) on March 25 also upheld the ECP order, prompting the SIC to approach the apex court.
Earlier, ECP told the Supreme Court that the SIC’s constitution is violative of articles 17, 20 & 25 of the Constitution and the party is not entitled to any reserved seats for women and in particular for non-Muslims.
The ECP on December 22, 2023, stripped the PTI of its election symbol in view of irregularities in its intra-party polls. The Supreme Court on January 13 upheld the ECP order, forcing the PTI candidates to contest the February 8 general elections as independents.
The independent candidates joined the SIC after the announcement of official election results. The SIC later sought reserved seats in the parliament and provincial assemblies in proportion to its general seats.
Source: The Express Tribune
Very happy to be proved wrong. Well done the 8 brave judges.Tonight You can imagine the establishment blackmailing the 2 judges not playing ball by showing videos of them having illicit relationships etc. National security agencies has gone from being the PK security agency to being the henchmen of our oppressors. Tomorrow the tiny bit of decency left (and it is very tiny) in PK will leave its soul forever.