Pakistan court clears way for registration of Hafiz Saeed's political party

[Napa]

So today we learn on PP that the great Pakistani Judiciary System is more credible than the United Nations )

I was surprised when the Pakistani Supreme Court okayed Musharraf's coup against Nawaz Sharif. How can a court ever say that it is legal for the Army to overthrow a democratically elected government?

 

[Napa]

Mohammad Azharuddin captained India in three world cups.

Yeah minorities don't get top positions in India. LOL.

Azim Premji was India's richest (and the world's second most richest) man for quite a long time before poor management of his firm led to his decline.

 

[Tusker]

I was surprised when the Pakistani Supreme Court okayed Musharraf's coup against Nawaz Sharif. How can a court ever say that it is legal for the Army to overthrow a democratically elected government?

haha I had totally forgotten about that ... thats just Gold !

 

[troodon]

Hope he becomes PM so that all Pak posters start attacking Hafiz sayeed for taking the rightful position of Imran Khan.

 

[asifp]

So today we learn on PP that the great Pakistani Judiciary System is more credible than the United Nations )
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=142736]English August[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Oh yes the UN system.

Tony Blair and George Bush are responsible for more deaths than Saddam + Gaddafi could ever be, will the UN even think about brining them to trial? I mean think about it. Bush invaded and crushed a whole country on fake evidence (WMD's), caused millions and millions of death. If that is not terrorism I don't know what is.

As mentioned, the UN is a puppet organisation. Zero credibility.

 

[asifp]

haha I had totally forgotten about that ... thats just Gold !

Its a poor example. The Pakistan Judiciary system has evolved a lot in the last 10 years and everyone can see that. The same judiciary system was also responsible for kicking out Pervaiz Musfarraf as well as Nawaz.

 

[OoparCut]

I don’t know why we are fighting over this? This is in India’s interest if people like Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar, Dawood etc gets support from Pakistani Govt. And recognition and popularity among general population. I wish they become PM or President soon. It’ll make India’s job easier.

You are right, but that's only in perception and international politics. Innocent people will be harmed while characters like these are publicly renowned instead of being publicly reviled.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And a UN ban is worth what? What has UN done on the security to gain any credibility?

Was it the same UN that believed in the presentation given by Colin P on finding WMD in Iraq.

The big boys use the UN as a puppet, I am sorry, if UN had any teeth and credibility half the **** going on in the world would have been stopped before it started.

why does the UN not make it public the evidence it has aginst Hafiz Saeed?

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Hafeez Saeed is not only banned by UN but by almost every country.

UN didnot go to war in Iraq.

Why doesnt Pakistan withdraw from UN then?

Why will UN make anything public? They deal with nations not with general public.

I understand its hard to swallow the facts and so the best way is to question UN's credibility.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Oh yes the UN system.

Tony Blair and George Bush are responsible for more deaths than Saddam + Gaddafi could ever be, will the UN even think about brining them to trial? I mean think about it. Bush invaded and crushed a whole country on fake evidence (WMD's), caused millions and millions of death. If that is not terrorism I don't know what is.

As mentioned, the UN is a puppet organisation. Zero credibility.

If some organisation doesnt work according to you, it lacks credibility. Lol.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its a poor example. The Pakistan Judiciary system has evolved a lot in the last 10 years and everyone can see that. The same judiciary system was also responsible for kicking out Pervaiz Musfarraf as well as Nawaz.

Thats why military courts were formed in Pakistan to try terrorists. Lol.

 

[BlackShadow]

Oh yes the UN system.

Tony Blair and George Bush are responsible for more deaths than Saddam + Gaddafi could ever be, will the UN even think about brining them to trial? I mean think about it. Bush invaded and crushed a whole country on fake evidence (WMD's), caused millions and millions of death. If that is not terrorism I don't know what is.

As mentioned, the UN is a puppet organisation. Zero credibility.

Does the same go for certain UN resolutions?

 

[English August]

So today we learn on PP that the great Pakistani Judiciary System is more credible than the United Nations )
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=142736]English August[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

As per this 'judicial' system a duly elected PM is not eligible to hold the office, but a terrorist responsible for killing 167 innocent people is.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I am amazed. A wise man once said education is the silver bullet, a phrase so apt to this thread.

I wonder if our Indian friends have actually read the OP? Clearly not.

The OP is in reference to the registration of a political party! Not the endorsement or vindication of the alleged mastermind of the 2008 attacks, Hafeez. So please keep yapping on about UN this UN that - if anything it adds much needed humour to this thread.

Registration of a political party is perfectly legal in accordance to the constitution of Pakistan. (Section highlighted in the OP) and Saifullah Khalid is the President of said party, MML. Last time I checked Saifullah Khalid was not banned anywhere. If the MML breaks the rules and regulations, it too will be banned just like the JuD and its charity Falah-i-lnsaniyat Foundation. Simples.

Emotions will always cloud judgement – it pays to read.

 

[R3verse Swing]

As per this 'judicial' system a duly elected PM is not eligible to hold the office, but a terrorist responsible for killing 167 innocent people is.

You have to love the melodramatic nonsense here.

Hafeez does not hold a position in Pakistan government. Come back when he does.

 

[Tusker]

Appointed by Congress?

[MENTION=146465]R3verse Swing[/MENTION]

The great Straight talker goes missing again.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which is why a internationally sanctioned and UN sanctioned terrorist can become PM in Pakistan.

This isn't India where a universally recognised protagonist of ethnic genocide can become PM of a major nation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This isn't India where a universally recognised protagonist of ethnic genocide can become PM of a major nation.

Pakistani view on PP isnt considered "universally recognised".

 

[www787]

Pakistani view on PP isnt considered "universally recognised".

Universe that you speak of has recognized Shah, Pinochet, Saddam, etc when the universe needed them. Just because Modi is recognized doesn’t negate the fact that he is a hardline Hindu religious extremists who was elected by the people of India. No matter how you try to protray it but Pakistan has never elected a religious extremists.

Now go on with usual weak repetitive defense of Modi.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani view on PP isnt considered "universally recognised".

That's not for you to decide, especially considering you are a diehard supporter of Modi.

 

[Thomaskutty]

I was surprised when the Pakistani Supreme Court okayed Musharraf's coup against Nawaz Sharif. How can a court ever say that it is legal for the Army to overthrow a democratically elected government?

The court system in Pakistan has given legal sanction to every coup in its 70 yr history. They won't touch the military class out of fear.
The notion that the courts are going to condemn a fauji favorite like Hafiz Saeed is funny. They go after the low hanging fruit ..like ahem .. the PM of Pakistan. Poor Mian sahib

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So laughable to see Indians criticising Pakistan's judiciary then out of the same mouths demanding respect for Indian courts which gave a clear chit to their Hindutva PM after the Gujarat riots. The hypocrisy is just astounding.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Universe that you speak of has recognized Shah, Pinochet, Saddam, etc when the universe needed them. Just because Modi is recognized doesn’t negate the fact that he is a hardline Hindu religious extremists who was elected by the people of India. No matter how you try to protray it but Pakistan has never elected a religious extremists.

Now go on with usual weak repetitive defense of Modi.

Pakistan is a nation based on a religion and PM has to follow a particular religion. So dont know what are you on about.

As i said, Pakistani view on Modi on PP isnt the view of the world.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's not for you to decide, especially considering you are a diehard supporter of Modi.

Lol. But you can decide the view in prime minister of another country. Pakistani narrative on anything indian isnt taken seriously.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Then why the daily hate posts and mudslinging on Modi about Godhara riots when Indian courts cleared him long time ago? At least Hafij Saeed has an India connection with alleged involvement in Mumbai attacks. Modi dont even have anything to do with Pakistan and yet you would see threads propping up here on a regular basis falsely accusing him for instigating violence and calling him terrorist etc.
Don't you see the hypocrisy here?

Ask those who post that stuff

 

[Gotham Cronie]

The accused is a UN sanctioned terrorist who was involved in killing of 167 people of various nationalities in a foreign country. So the buck doesnot stop with Pakistani courts. Just like Pakistan couldnot keep OBL even if he was innocent in Pakistan's eyes.

Btw can you tell why he isnt beig tried in military courts like other terrorists?

Because he isn't. You crying won't change anything. The Government of Pakistan will handle it as they seen fit and don't care what you think.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So laughable to see Indians criticising Pakistan's judiciary then out of the same mouths demanding respect for Indian courts which gave a clear chit to their Hindutva PM after the Gujarat riots. The hypocrisy is just astounding.

Again what has any Pakistani got to do with Gujarat? Anything?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because he isn't. You crying won't change anything. The Government of Pakistan will handle it as they seen fit and don't care what you think.

Yes the whole world is lying. Lol who is crying? Crying happens annually at UN by Pakistani PM.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Again what has any Pakistani got to do with Gujarat? Anything?

Again what has any Indian got to do with Pakistan political parties? Anything?

 

[www787]

Pakistan is a nation based on a religion and PM has to follow a particular religion. So dont know what are you on about.

As i said, Pakistani view on Modi on PP isnt the view of the world.

Extremists, he is a proven radical extremists. Like I said works also support saddam, saudia and other killers.
Getting elected by the people doesn’t wash radical extremism off.

Following religion and extremism are two different thing.

Try again.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol. But you can decide the view in prime minister of another country. Pakistani narrative on anything indian isnt taken seriously.

Lol. But you can decide the view about the political parties of another country. Indian narrative on anything Pakistan isn't taken seriously.

 

[www787]

Commonality between Hafeez and Modi, both are religious extremists but later was elected by a nation as a leader and a former will never be elected.
Let that sink in.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again what has any Indian got to do with Pakistan political parties? Anything?

Indians has got to do with the mastermind of mumbai attacks.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol. But you can decide the view about the political parties of another country. Indian narrative on anything Pakistan isn't taken seriously.

Still Pakistanis are banned by various countries when asked by India.

The world considers Hafiz Saeed as a terrorist.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Extremists, he is a proven radical extremists. Like I said works also support saddam, saudia and other killers.
Getting elected by the people doesn’t wash radical extremism off.

Following religion and extremism are two different thing.

Try again.

Who proved him to be a radical extremist? You? Pakistanis on PP? Who?

 

[www787]

Who proved him to be a radical extremist? You? Pakistanis on PP? Who?

Are you talking about the Same world who support Saudi extreme view, supported Pinochet extreme view, supported Saddam extremist view.

Try to come up with better counter argument.

 

[Bhaijaan]

My dear friends from Pakistan,

I request you to please not let lunatics like Hafeez Saeed come in the way of your wonderful and inspirational growrh story and replace it with mad fanaticism in a manner Modi is screwing up with India.

Pakistan is going through its nost crucial transformation phase. Decisions taken in now will lay the foundation for the next 50 years or so. Don't let this moment slip past you brothers.

Bhaijaan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Are you talking about the Same world who support Saudi extreme view, supported Pinochet extreme view, supported Saddam extremist view.

Try to come up with better counter argument.

The world is wrong but you and those supporting your views are right. Lol.

 

[www787]

My dear friends from Pakistan,

I request you to please not let lunatics like Hafeez Saeed come in the way of your wonderful and inspirational growrh story and replace it with mad fanaticism in a manner Modi is screwing up with India.

Pakistan is going through its nost crucial transformation phase. Decisions taken in now will lay the foundation for the next 50 years or so. Don't let this moment slip past you brothers.

Bhaijaan.

Bhaijaan

Can’t wait for that day when religious extremism is ended in both countries, though it seem India has taken a lead in electing extremist as leader.

 

[English August]

You have to love the melodramatic nonsense here.

Hafeez does not hold a position in Pakistan government. Come back when he does.

You need to take your own advice and learn to read.

I was talking about eligibility to hold office. Sharif isn't eligible, Saeed is. So much for the Pakistani 'judicial' system.

 

[kaayal]

Unlike Modi, Hafeez saeed planned the killing of 167 Indian and other foreign nationals. Even if Pakistani court doesn't find him guilty (like Modi),he is a threat for everyone including us. We will criticize him when he runs scot free in our neighbouring land. If anybody has a problem then ignore it.

 

[www787]

The world is wrong but you and those supporting your views are right. Lol.

Again repeated weak defense with no substance and you had to end your comment with, lol

 

[R3verse Swing]

Indians still refuse to read the OP! The audacity!

 

[R3verse Swing]

Unlike Modi, Hafeez saeed planned the killing of 167 Indian and other foreign nationals. Even if Pakistani court doesn't find him guilty (like Modi),he is a threat for everyone including us. We will criticize him when he runs scot free in our neighbouring land. If anybody has a problem then ignore it.

Evidence or it didn't happen.

We're all ears and eyes!

 

[R3verse Swing]

You need to take your own advice and learn to read.

I was talking about eligibility to hold office. Sharif isn't eligible, Saeed is. So much for the Pakistani 'judicial' system.

How is Saeed eligible?

Answers on a post card please.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Still Pakistanis are banned by various countries when asked by India.

The world considers Hafiz Saeed as a terrorist.

Pakistani court jurisdiction is not decided by India or any other country outside of Pakistan. Your opinion is just that, an opinion from a biased follower of a Hindu extremist PM. Please extend Pakistan's courts the same respect and courtesy you would expect for your own judiciary otherwise expect a befitting reply.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Unlike Modi, Hafeez saeed planned the killing of 167 Indian and other foreign nationals. Even if Pakistani court doesn't find him guilty (like Modi),he is a threat for everyone including us. We will criticize him when he runs scot free in our neighbouring land. If anybody has a problem then ignore it.

I don't know whether that's cute or ignorant because Modi masterminded the Gujrat riots that lead to killing of thousands of icconent Muslims. Him being the PM of India is a shame exponentially bigger than Hafeez Saeed having a political party.

 

[English August]

How is Saeed eligible?

Answers on a post card please.

Will let you read the OP and figure it out yourselves. It's not very difficult. Give it a try.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Will let you read the OP and figure it out yourselves. It's not very difficult. Give it a try.

The one chance to prove me wrong and he blew it.

Nothing to see here folks!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistani court jurisdiction is not decided by India or any other country outside of Pakistan. Your opinion is just that, an opinion from a biased follower of a Hindu extremist PM. Please extend Pakistan's courts the same respect and courtesy you would expect for your own judiciary otherwise expect a befitting reply.

What befitting reply lol? A court that frees a person who is sanctioned as a terror mastermind will be criticised. This guy is accused in murder of 160 plus people of various countries in a foreign land and hence other countries will call out this nonsense.

Why are other terrorists in Pakistan tried by military courts but this guy is not? Lol.

Hypocrisy will be called out.

I support the PM of India. Who else should i support?

 

[Napa]

The court system in Pakistan has given legal sanction to every coup in its 70 yr history. They won't touch the military class out of fear.
The notion that the courts are going to condemn a fauji favorite like Hafiz Saeed is funny. They go after the low hanging fruit ..like ahem .. the PM of Pakistan. Poor Mian sahib

You are absolutely right. The game of the Army is to keep the political system weak and dysfunctional by not letting any strong political leader who can challenge them emerge. This was the reason why Bhutto was hanged. A dysfunctional political system leads many Pakistanis (including many well educated one on this forum) to say "The Army is the only institution in the country which works".

Nawaz Sharif is the only political leader in the recent past who has challenged the Army, though initially he was put in power by the Army. Currently there is an uneasy co-existence between him and the Army. IK was an instrument used by the Army to weaken NS, possibly an unwitting instrument.

NS is a businessman and wants Pakistan economy to get better which would be helped by a reduction of tensions with India. That makes him extremely unpopular with the Army which could not care less about economic development. Fortunately the average Punjabi voter is able to see the benefit from NS, and most likely PML will be returned to power.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What befitting reply lol? A court that frees a person who is sanctioned as a terror mastermind will be criticised. This guy is accused in murder of 160 plus people of various countries in a foreign land and hence other countries will call out this nonsense.

Why are other terrorists in Pakistan tried by military courts but this guy is not? Lol.

Hypocrisy will be called out.

I support the PM of India. Who else should i support?

You can support your Hindutva PM, that is your right as an Indian patriot, but your hypocrisy in supporting your own biased judges but questioning Pakistan's honest and integral courts is there for all to see.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You can support your Hindutva PM, that is your right as an Indian patriot, but your hypocrisy in supporting your own biased judges but questioning Pakistan's honest and integral courts is there for all to see.

1. Hafiz Saeed is accused of masterminding killing of 160 plus people of different countries in India, so Indians will comment and criticise when he walks free, esp when ROW has sanctioned him as a terrorist.

2. Gujarat happened in India has nothing to do with any Pakistani, and indians have accepted the decision of their judiciary.

See the difference.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

1. Hafiz Saeed is accused of masterminding killing of 160 plus people of different countries in India, so Indians will comment and criticise when he walks free, esp when ROW has sanctioned him as a terrorist.

2. Gujarat happened in India has nothing to do with any Pakistani, and indians have accepted the decision of their judiciary.

See the difference.

Saeed was CLEARED by the Pakistani courts in the same way that Modi was cleared by the Indian courts. What Indians or the rest of the world speculates about the decision is of no consequence and is mere conjecture. Please understand that you can have your opinion, but it proves nothing other than your hypocrisy.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Saeed was CLEARED by the Pakistani courts in the same way that Modi was cleared by the Indian courts. What Indians or the rest of the world speculates about the decision is of no consequence and is mere conjecture. Please understand that you can have your opinion, but it proves nothing other than your hypocrisy.

Pakistani courys clearing someone of a crime that didnot take place in Pakistan and in which non pakistanis were killed. That defies logic.

Modi cleared by indian courts in a event that happened in India and involved no pakistanis, so what are pakistanis up in arms about?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pakistani courys clearing someone of a crime that didnot take place in Pakistan and in which non pakistanis were killed. That defies logic.

Modi cleared by indian courts in a event that happened in India and involved no pakistanis, so what are pakistanis up in arms about?

Do you have any proof he is behind any attacks which killed innocent people in India? If not roh band kar doh.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani courys clearing someone of a crime that didnot take place in Pakistan and in which non pakistanis were killed. That defies logic.

Modi cleared by indian courts in a event that happened in India and involved no pakistanis, so what are pakistanis up in arms about?

Pakistanis aren't up in arms about anything, this is a Pakistani matter about a Pakistani individual. What are you doing here?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Do you have any proof he is behind any attacks which killed innocent people in India? If not roh band kar doh.

Are you the judge? Is evidence againist terrorist handed to public? May be in Pakistan but not anywhere else.

There was enough evidence for the whole world to sanction Hafuz Saeed.

Pehle apna kashmir ka rona bandh karo.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistanis aren't up in arms about anything, this is a Pakistani matter about a Pakistani individual. What are you doing here?

That individual killed 160 people in my country. Then again Pakistan even supported OBL. Whats new.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Are you the judge? Is evidence againist terrorist handed to public? May be in Pakistan but not anywhere else.

There was enough evidence for the whole world to sanction Hafuz Saeed.

Pehle apna kashmir ka rona bandh karo.

195 countries sanctioned Saeed? lol

India should make it public if they so sure as Pakistan called your evidence a lot of horse manure.

Saeed should get a medal for any help he provided to help the occupied people of Kashmir. Rona India ka kaam heh.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That individual killed 160 people in my country. Then again Pakistan even supported OBL. Whats new.

Go and get him then like USA did with OBL or dont you have the bottle? Crying all the time isn't going to make him hand himself over to India.