Pakistan India Tension - Latest Updates (Post Release of Abhinandan)

[Kroll]

If all these reports are fake then posters should be banned.

None of the news channels are reporting such news!

The military usually prohibit the media from reporting any clashes right away. This was evident in the downed pilot situation.

 

[Hamza_]

India should now be hailed as a terrorist state.

 

[pakistani pride]

Indian govt can't accept the bloody nose they got in last exchange. They will kill children if they have to to even the score.

Its not that easy. The point is PAKISTAN is more then capable to hit back, which means a never ending story.

Cant believe the big international players will let this happen.

 

[Sachin136]

India should now be hailed as a terrorist state.

Irony just died a painful death.

 

[Pakpak]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <br><br>Pakistani snipers have taken out several Indian Army personnel stationed at LoC. Several Indian Army posts along Sialkot sector targeted by Pakistani retaliatory strikes. Reports coming in now of Indian Army using 214mm Pinaka MBRL along LOC: <a href="https://twitter.com/Homesecpak?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Homesecpak</a> <a href="https://t.co/RClXyY3CB3">https://t.co/RClXyY3CB3</a></p>— F. Jeffery �� (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1101596227773386752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MENTION=147568]Realromeo[/MENTION] you were right re: Pinaka

 

[slipcatch]

Irony just died a painful death.

Radicalized extremists Hindu, elected by people, killing and risking life’s so he can win re election.

What else do you call it?

Extremists are terrorist and modi is, difference is, you support him.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Quite cunning of India to target civilian quarters in azad Kashmir, as they know Pakistan won't answer like for like as they won't want to kill Kashmiri citizens on the other side of the border. I hope Pak don't decide to hit civilian areas on the Punjab border instead, this is a disgraceful escalation if true.

 

[Hamza_]

[MENTION=139108]Sachin136[/MENTION]

Actually, This should have been done way back with India killing Kashmiris.

 

[Pakpak]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My Indian army contacts are saying Pak is also retaliating strongly with M115.</p>— IndianByHeart (@VideshiBharatiy) <a href="https://twitter.com/VideshiBharatiy/status/1101596922291331073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[KingKhanWC]

Quite cunning of India to target civilian quarters in azad Kashmir, as they know Pakistan won't answer like for like as they won't want to kill Kashmiri citizens on the other side of the border. I hope Pak don't decide to hit civilian areas on the Punjab border instead, this is a disgraceful escalation if true.

Isn't it ironic, they are bigger terrorists than the people they are begging to be handed over to them.

 

[gkb101277867]

Ok so I have seen a lot of people on Twitter and this forum screenshotting the tweets of this F. Jeffery @natsecjeff guy. Is he reliable? What I mean is are his tweets credible/official? Does he belong to a credible media station for example?

I think everyone needs to be very careful when sharing tweets like this because everyone seems to be getting caught up in this war hysteria and you cant trust unverified people on the internet these days. We are living in the age of fake news after all

 

[Pakpak]

Ok so I have seen a lot of people on Twitter and this forum screenshotting the tweets of this F. Jeffery @natsecjeff guy. Is he reliable? What I mean is are his tweets credible/official? Does he belong to a credible media station for example?

I think everyone needs to be very careful when sharing tweets like this because everyone seems to be getting caught up in this war hysteria and you cant trust unverified people on the internet these days. We are living in the age of fake news after all

He posts from verified accounts and removes posts if they are not verified.

 

[PetroDollars]

Ok so I have seen a lot of people on Twitter and this forum screenshotting the tweets of this F. Jeffery @natsecjeff guy. Is he reliable? What I mean is are his tweets credible/official? Does he belong to a credible media station for example?

I think everyone needs to be very careful when sharing tweets like this because everyone seems to be getting caught up in this war hysteria and you cant trust unverified people on the internet these days. We are living in the age of fake news after all

i think some people from azad kashmir on this forum have shared same views.

 

[a_tahir]

Ok so I have seen a lot of people on Twitter and this forum screenshotting the tweets of this F. Jeffery @natsecjeff guy. Is he reliable? What I mean is are his tweets credible/official? Does he belong to a credible media station for example?

I think everyone needs to be very careful when sharing tweets like this because everyone seems to be getting caught up in this war hysteria and you cant trust unverified people on the internet these days. We are living in the age of fake news after all

Exactly. He's like the main source of info. Dunno if he's reliable or not.

 

[PetroDollars]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistani?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistani</a> media seems so dizzy, traditional news breaks about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LOC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LOC</a> situation, Information Ministry tells public “all is well”. But reality turned to be lethal. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AbhinandanReturns?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AbhinandanReturns</a> didn’t even impact a tiny bit. They will probably sack him.</p>— The Hawks (@TheHawksOps) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHawksOps/status/1101601451179151360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[PetroDollars]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UPDATE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UPDATE</a Reports that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a>’s snipers have taken down several <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianArmy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianArmy</a> personnel stationed at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LoC</a>. Several Indian Army posts along <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Sialkot?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Sialkot</a> sector targeted by <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanArmy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanArmy</a> retaliatory strikes.</p>— The Hawks (@TheHawksOps) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHawksOps/status/1101597920141418496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Hamza_]

I think it is about time we give India another smart punch.

 

[PetroDollars]

https://twitter.com/TheHawksOps/status/1101574922869067776

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UPDATE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UPDATE</a 3 Indian Soldier has been killed in Cross Fire with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanArmy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanArmy</a>. Heavy artillery movement witnessed on both sides of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LOC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LOC</a>. Despite the package (<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AbhinandanReturns?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AbhinandanReturns</a>) dispatched hours ago. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Modi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Modi</a> cannot be Modi-fied any further.</p>— The Hawks (@TheHawksOps) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHawksOps/status/1101574922869067776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Hamza_]

Keep killing those Indian Soldiers Cum Homegrown Terrorists

 

[cric_man]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My Indian army contacts are saying Pak is also retaliating strongly with M115.</p>— IndianByHeart (@VideshiBharatiy) <a href="https://twitter.com/VideshiBharatiy/status/1101596922291331073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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M115? what is that? We have M109 SP howz, M198 and A-100 (chinese ver of Smerch )

If they are using Pinaka, we will as Gen Ghafoor mentioned yesterday "dominate the escalation ladder" and respond with either A-100s or Burraq drones targetting indian heavy arty.

 

[Realromeo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <br><br>Pakistani snipers have taken out several Indian Army personnel stationed at LoC. Several Indian Army posts along Sialkot sector targeted by Pakistani retaliatory strikes. Reports coming in now of Indian Army using 214mm Pinaka MBRL along LOC: <a href="https://twitter.com/Homesecpak?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Homesecpak</a> <a href="https://t.co/RClXyY3CB3">https://t.co/RClXyY3CB3</a></p>— F. Jeffery �� (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1101596227773386752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MENTION=147568]Realromeo[/MENTION] you were right re: Pinaka

Yup, seems like I was. Pinaka is supposed to look like "Natraj Pencils" , easy to spot. Some claimed India was using short range missiles, which can be easily mistaken for MBRL artilleries. If this is all true, the way things are going, Pinaka will be taken out by PAF or a PAF will attempt to destroy Pinaka on the ground but will be shot down by an Surface to air missile using Pinaka as a decoy. I can also be all wrong and this whole thing could fake news lol.

 

[gkb101277867]

He posts from verified accounts and removes posts if they are not verified.

I'm not convinced. In a lot of his tweets he uses random Twitter profiles to verify his info. In one tweet his source was himself and he said he was writing the tweet after talking to some Pakistani soldiers on the LOC. It may be true but hard to believe as I am sure Pakistani soldiers have time to personally speak to him when they are allegedly fighting against 155 mm artillery

 

[Pakpak]

I'm not convinced. In a lot of his tweets he uses random Twitter profiles to verify his info. In one tweet his source was himself and he said he was writing the tweet after talking to some Pakistani soldiers on the LOC. It may be true but hard to believe as I am sure Pakistani soldiers have time to personally speak to him when they are allegedly fighting against 155 mm artillery

He has posted videos, which show the entire frontlines to be a warzone. Some people living in AJK have said the same things.

 

[waqar goraya]

I believe villages along the LOC were already vacated two days back.

 

[Pakpak]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Something for idiots: when we see multiple reports from different, unconnected citizens about an explosion in an area, or jets flying by, all in same time frame, we report it. It doesn't mean everyone in the entire city must have heard it. You really don't have to be a smartass.</p>— F. Jeffery &#55357;&#56385; (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1101607915297882114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Donal Cozzie]

If the reports of India shelling the LOC are true then it is a pathetic and disgraceful act. Below contempt.

Whatever about the spark of this conflict what Pakistan did yesterday was a gesture of genuine peace and goodwill that could easily have been ignored. Any sane democracy would have taken it and used it to deescalate tensions.

Instead to respond with shelling, and of civilian targets no less? Disgusting. Stooping to the low low levels of Israel. In any sane democracy a leader in charge of such an act in response to yesterdays gesture would be getting slated left, right and centre and pushed from office. Every single Indian soldier who dies from this point on lies solely at Modi's feet and nobody else because he had the ability to cease this instantly, and wouldnt have lost much credit for it since by having the pilot returned it could be considered a draw. Instead of being applauded by the manchildren like Gambhir and co he should be slated for throwing away needlessly the lives of the underfunded, underequipped, underpaid souls hes just thrown to their deaths. Instead this will likely somehow be construed as "patriotic" "a tough response" when in reality caving for violence, always an easy fix, is a cowardly, weak response from a leader obviously looking for distractions.

Shocking tbh. Indias reputation is taking a hammering from people following this because it was reported everywhere yesterday that Pskistan gave the pilot back, only to wake up to bombs. So utterly needless.

Respond to Indian soldiers dying by ordering acts, after peaceful gestures, that lead to more dying. Insanity. Imran is emerging from this a significantly more mature and sensible leader than Modi is, and I couldnt give a toss about petty India vs Pakistan debates or the old Kashmir one like the keyboard warriors here do, but I'm just calling it as I see it.

Hope Pakistan continue exercising restraint. One leader has to behave like an adult and it clearly aint Modi, who's obviously being fuelled by a hypernationalistic press and upper class.

 

[King-Misbah]

Zaid Hamid was right; cant trust a snake like India.

 

[Sachin136]

Three of a Kin Killed As Pak Continues Shelling Along LoC in J&K

Three members of a family were killed and two others injured as Pakistani forces heavily shelled areas along the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch district on Friday, 1 March, officials said.

Pakistani forces targeted civilian areas with mortar bombs and heavy guns, including Howitzer 105 mm, they said, adding that Indian forces retaliated effectively.

In the heavy shelling, three members of a family were killed and another was injured in Salotri in Poonch district, where shells hit several houses, they said.

24-year-old Rubana Kosar and her son Fazan (5) and nine-month-old daughter Shabnam were killed in the shelling. Rubana’s husband Mohd Yunis was injured, officials said.

Earlier in the day, a woman, identified as Naseem Akhtar, was injured in the firing by Pakistani forces in the Mankote area of Poonch, officials said.

Besides Salotri and Mankote, shelling also took place in Krishnagati and Balakote areas in Poonch district.

In violation of the ceasefire agreement with India, Pakistani forces have been shelling areas along the LoC in Rajouri and Poonch districts for eight consecutive days.

On Thursday, 28 February, a woman was killed and a jawan was injured when Pakistani Army heavily shelled civilian areas and forward posts in six sectors along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch and Rajouri districts, drawing retaliation from the Indian Army.

The Pakistan Army has violated the ceasefire for over 60 times during the last one week by targeting over 70 civilian and forward areas along the LoC in Poonch, Rajouri, Jammu and Baramulla districts of Jammu and Kashmir, in which one woman was killed and 9 persons were injured.

https://www.thequint.com/news/india...-by-pak-forces-along-loc-jammu-kashmir-poonch

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Course my post is on the basis that what Im hearing from lots of people I know is true, if not, delete it

 

[Sachin136]

If the reports of India shelling the LOC are true then it is a pathetic and disgraceful act. Below contempt.

Whatever about the spark of this conflict what Pakistan did yesterday was a gesture of genuine peace and goodwill that could easily have been ignored. Any sane democracy would have taken it and used it to deescalate tensions.

Instead to respond with shelling, and of civilian targets no less? Disgusting. Stooping to the low low levels of Israel. In any sane democracy a leader in charge of such an act in response to yesterdays gesture would be getting slated left, right and centre and pushed from office. Every single Indian soldier who dies from this point on lies solely at Modi's feet and nobody else because he had the ability to cease this instantly, and wouldnt have lost much credit for it since by having the pilot returned it could be considered a draw. Instead of being applauded by the manchildren like Gambhir and co he should be slated for throwing away needlessly the lives of the underfunded, underequipped, underpaid souls hes just thrown to their deaths. Instead this will likely somehow be construed as "patriotic" "a tough response" when in reality caving for violence, always an easy fix, is a cowardly, weak response from a leader obviously looking for distractions.

Shocking tbh. Indias reputation is taking a hammering from people following this because it was reported everywhere yesterday that Pskistan gave the pilot back, only to wake up to bombs. So utterly needless.

Respond to Indian soldiers dying by ordering acts, after peaceful gestures, that lead to more dying. Insanity. Imran is emerging from this a significantly more mature and sensible leader than Modi is, and I couldnt give a toss about petty India vs Pakistan debates or the old Kashmir one like the keyboard warriors here do, but I'm just calling it as I see it.

Hope Pakistan continue exercising restraint. One leader has to behave like an adult and it clearly aint Modi, who's obviously being fuelled by a hypernationalistic press and upper class.

I suggest you try looking at some neutral sources instead of what people are posting here from random Pakistani twitter accounts.

 

[King-Misbah]

If the reports of India shelling the LOC are true then it is a pathetic and disgraceful act. Below contempt.

Whatever about the spark of this conflict what Pakistan did yesterday was a gesture of genuine peace and goodwill that could easily have been ignored. Any sane democracy would have taken it and used it to deescalate tensions.

Instead to respond with shelling, and of civilian targets no less? Disgusting. Stooping to the low low levels of Israel. In any sane democracy a leader in charge of such an act in response to yesterdays gesture would be getting slated left, right and centre and pushed from office. Every single Indian soldier who dies from this point on lies solely at Modi's feet and nobody else because he had the ability to cease this instantly, and wouldnt have lost much credit for it since by having the pilot returned it could be considered a draw. Instead of being applauded by the manchildren like Gambhir and co he should be slated for throwing away needlessly the lives of the underfunded, underequipped, underpaid souls hes just thrown to their deaths. Instead this will likely somehow be construed as "patriotic" "a tough response" when in reality caving for violence, always an easy fix, is a cowardly, weak response from a leader obviously looking for distractions.

Shocking tbh. Indias reputation is taking a hammering from people following this because it was reported everywhere yesterday that Pskistan gave the pilot back, only to wake up to bombs. So utterly needless.

Respond to Indian soldiers dying by ordering acts, after peaceful gestures, that lead to more dying. Insanity. Imran is emerging from this a significantly more mature and sensible leader than Modi is, and I couldnt give a toss about petty India vs Pakistan debates or the old Kashmir one like the keyboard warriors here do, but I'm just calling it as I see it.

Hope Pakistan continue exercising restraint. One leader has to behave like an adult and it clearly aint Modi, who's obviously being fuelled by a hypernationalistic press and upper class.

Thank you for your post but Pakistan can not simply keep on restraining when India is ultra aggressive and killing Pakistanis on the LOC. I am glad that people are seeing the true reality of India.

 

[Azzurri]

Three of a Kin Killed As Pak Continues Shelling Along LoC in J&K

Three members of a family were killed and two others injured as Pakistani forces heavily shelled areas along the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch district on Friday, 1 March, officials said.

Pakistani forces targeted civilian areas with mortar bombs and heavy guns, including Howitzer 105 mm, they said, adding that Indian forces retaliated effectively.

In the heavy shelling, three members of a family were killed and another was injured in Salotri in Poonch district, where shells hit several houses, they said.

24-year-old Rubana Kosar and her son Fazan (5) and nine-month-old daughter Shabnam were killed in the shelling. Rubana’s husband Mohd Yunis was injured, officials said.

Earlier in the day, a woman, identified as Naseem Akhtar, was injured in the firing by Pakistani forces in the Mankote area of Poonch, officials said.

Besides Salotri and Mankote, shelling also took place in Krishnagati and Balakote areas in Poonch district.

In violation of the ceasefire agreement with India, Pakistani forces have been shelling areas along the LoC in Rajouri and Poonch districts for eight consecutive days.

On Thursday, 28 February, a woman was killed and a jawan was injured when Pakistani Army heavily shelled civilian areas and forward posts in six sectors along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch and Rajouri districts, drawing retaliation from the Indian Army.

The Pakistan Army has violated the ceasefire for over 60 times during the last one week by targeting over 70 civilian and forward areas along the LoC in Poonch, Rajouri, Jammu and Baramulla districts of Jammu and Kashmir, in which one woman was killed and 9 persons were injured.

https://www.thequint.com/news/india...-by-pak-forces-along-loc-jammu-kashmir-poonch

Why the hell would Pakistan do it? Keep believing your Liar media. Your shelling across LOC have already costed around a dozen innocent lives in AJK. Now i think returning indian Pilot was a mistake by us. Indians are beyond hopeless

 

[cric_man]

Yup, seems like I was. Pinaka is supposed to look like "Natraj Pencils" , easy to spot. Some claimed India was using short range missiles, which can be easily mistaken for MBRL artilleries. If this is all true, the way things are going, Pinaka will be taken out by PAF or a PAF will attempt to destroy Pinaka on the ground but will be shot down by an Surface to air missile using Pinaka as a decoy. I can also be all wrong and this whole thing could fake news lol.

Something like this?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Thank you for your post but Pakistan can not simply keep on restraining when India is ultra aggressive and killing Pakistanis on the LOC. I am glad that people are seeing the true reality of India.

This isnt a true reality of India or anything of the sort. The head honchos of the military maybe but there are many good and bad people of every nationality.

Dont forget, in virtually every conflict, the majority want peace. Highly doubt the vast majority of Indians want this any more than you do, unfortunately they dont get to make decisions. Normal people never do......

 

[Savak]

Why is the Pak armed forces not responding to the shelling? Innocent AJK Civilians have been killed, this is an act of war and an appropriate response must be given to the other side to show them that we are not joking when we are talking about defending ourselves from provoked aggression.

 

[Pakpak]

Yup, seems like I was. Pinaka is supposed to look like "Natraj Pencils" , easy to spot. Some claimed India was using short range missiles, which can be easily mistaken for MBRL artilleries. If this is all true, the way things are going, Pinaka will be taken out by PAF or a PAF will attempt to destroy Pinaka on the ground but will be shot down by an Surface to air missile using Pinaka as a decoy. I can also be all wrong and this whole thing could fake news lol.

You might be right but this isn't calming down at all.

 

[Pakpak]

Why is the Pak armed forces not responding to the shelling? Innocent AJK Civilians have been killed, this is an act of war and an appropriate response must be given to the other side to show them that we are not joking when we are talking about defending ourselves from provoked aggression.

Like what? Shell Kashmiris on their side? Apparently we have killed some soldiers with snipers as well so for now they are retaliating.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

I suggest you try looking at some neutral sources instead of what people are posting here from random Pakistani twitter accounts.

I can only go off what I read from people on both sides. But why would Pakistan do this after yesterday? It makes no sense.

I fear for the 2nd Indian pilot who to my knowledge is still in hospital. I highly doubt he'll now benefit from such generous treatment as the first guy. His country have somewhat sold him off in a way, what hope can he have now of release?

 

[King-Misbah]

This isnt a true reality of India or anything of the sort. The head honchos of the military maybe but there are many good and bad people of every nationality.

Dont forget, in virtually every conflict, the majority want peace. Highly doubt the vast majority of Indians want this any more than you do, unfortunately they dont get to make decisions. Normal people never do......

I agree with you to an extent but Indians are the ones that voted in this low life Modi.

 

[a_tahir]

Why is the Pak armed forces not responding to the shelling? Innocent AJK Civilians have been killed, this is an act of war and an appropriate response must be given to the other side to show them that we are not joking when we are talking about defending ourselves from provoked aggression.

Maybe they're planning something u just never know.

Who was predicting pak destroying ind aircrafts?

Who predicted ind will go to pak AGAIN THE VERY NEXT DAY?

 

[gazza619]

This isnt a true reality of India or anything of the sort. The head honchos of the military maybe but there are many good and bad people of every nationality.

Dont forget, in virtually every conflict, the majority want peace. Highly doubt the vast majority of Indians want this any more than you do, unfortunately they dont get to make decisions. Normal people never do......

But a lot of people have been brainwashed to believe that war is the only solution..

 

[princeuk]

The ungrateful india goverment, This Modi character is poison to the core

 

[King-Misbah]

Its quite evident that Indian and Modis ego has been badly dented. They will not stop until they gain some sort of advantage. They will lose even more in the process and hopefully war monger Modis election campaign is further thwarted.

 

[AFM]

How reliable are these twitter accounts?

 

[Sachin136]

Why the hell would Pakistan do it? Keep believing your Liar media. Your shelling across LOC have already costed around a dozen innocent lives in AJK. Now i think returning indian Pilot was a mistake by us. Indians are beyond hopeless

Pakistan has violated ceasefire many times. Now they're just taking a step further and killing 9 month olds.

I'd rather believe an article than random twitter accounts.

 

[a_tahir]

How reliable are these twitter accounts?

#kotli is trending at no.1 in pak.
Don't think all of it is fake. Ary has reported it too but not in much detail.

 

[Mueez]

Pakistan has violated ceasefire many times. Now they're just taking a step further and killing 9 month olds.

I'd rather believe an article than random twitter accounts.

Yeah and Indian army is bombing Azad Kashmir with flowers...

 

[a_tahir]

Pakistan has violated ceasefire many times. Now they're just taking a step further and killing 9 month olds.

I'd rather believe an article than random twitter accounts.

*An article from India

 

[Savak]

How have India vs Pakistan armed forces done in military competitions and games abroad? Have read that Pak army has routinely come No 1 ahead of the armies of the US, UK, other European countries

 

[a_tahir]

How have India vs Pakistan armed forces done in military competitions and games abroad? Have read that Pak army has routinely come No 1 ahead of the armies of the US, UK, other European countries

Define Games abroad

 

[King-Misbah]

Pakistan has violated ceasefire many times. Now they're just taking a step further and killing 9 month olds.

I'd rather believe an article than random twitter accounts.

Yer; Indian Media #BullSh!tters #Liars #WarHungry

 

[waqar goraya]

Kotli has become number 1 trend in Pakistan all of sudden.

 

[Theo_14]

Tensions between #India and #Pakistan have not settled down after the release of the pilot. In fact, tonight is the worst most bloodiest skirmish yet along the LOC and is largely being underreported. Several causalities on both sides, hospitals running out of blood.

Reports of #India using very heavy artillery and also #ATGMs against #Pakistani positions at #LoC via @Natsecjeff - if true, this could be a turning point.

^ two verified accounts tweeted this. Terrible situation.

 

[Theo_14]

Received a message from a friend in Kashmir: Indian border forces are using heavy weaponry and targeting civilians in Nakyal sector. Local mosques are asking people to switch off their lights to avoid Indian shelling and firing.

(senior reporter - Samaa Tv)

 

[Mueez]

I have a feeling Pakistan will surprise India once again...


India has not learned anything from the previous time.

 

[Hamza_]

Indians and Modis are creating history of voilence and terrorism here.

 

[King-Misbah]

Indians and Modis are creating history of voilence and terrorism here.

Dont worry; they will be shown their place soon in shallah. Absolute scums this Indian govt and army.

 

[Mueez]

Indians and Modis are creating history of voilence and terrorism here.

But Pakistan is a “terrorist” state.

Still can’t believe Indians voted for this idiot, most probably they will do it again.

Actually it isn’t the fault of the Indians, these guys are brought up in the anti-Pakistan narrative.

 

[a_tahir]

This has been the bloodiest night of this little conflict we've had so far.
I had a feeling India won't stop after the release of their pilot it was OBVIOUS.

The amount of people that are reporting this and the fact that it is trending at no.1 in pak shows this can't entirely be fake.

 

[a_tahir]

I have a feeling Pakistan will surprise India once again...


India has not learned anything from the previous time.

INSHAALLAH.
This time i'm hoping for something big against the Indian Military that are killing all of these Innocent Kashmiris

 

[Mueez]

“Laaton kai bhoot baaton sai nahi mantein.”

It seems.

Bloody hell we shouldn’t have given Abhi back. Indians don’t deserve it.

 

[slipcatch]

Please don't tell me what to do.

The fact that you can't go one post without personal attacks shows who the ignorant one is.

I’m not hiding.

Didn’t attack your looks or your appearance.

Attack your thinking and believes.

That isn’t personal, learn to differentiate.

But if I knew what you look like in person then probably wouldn’t hesitate to personally attack that too.

And I believe you are ignorant if you continue to dismiss any fact that shine bad light on India or radicalized extremists Hindu lunatic that you call a leader.

 

[QuickCrick]

Is any channel reporting this? I’m going through twitter and the videos that are emerging are scary..

I don’t want to blame IK or Pak Gov because I think morally he done the right thing but could we not have held him until we negotiated deescalation?

 

[Theo_14]

Pakistan media hardly reporting this - complete black out.

Also a local from rawalakot said the following that I know:

“District hospital Kotli is full of wounded local people who are badly injured in heavy Indian shelling in LOC... also bimbhar sector.”

“ Heavy artillery is being used by India. Shelling is thundorous.”

Kashmir is bleeding. This is serious. This is major.

 

[a_tahir]

Is any channel reporting this? I’m going through twitter and the videos that are emerging are scary..

I don’t want to blame IK or Pak Gov because I think morally he done the right thing but could we not have held him until we negotiated deescalation?

They're not allowed. Only allowed to show the official statements. Probably so the public don't panic.

#kochli is trending at #1 in pak
#AzadKashmir is trending at #3
They need to tell us what's the truth.

 

[a_tahir]

They're not allowed. Only allowed to show the official statements. Probably so the public don't panic.

#kochli is trending at #1 in pak
#AzadKashmir is trending at #3
They need to tell us what's the truth.

Azad Kashmir is trending at no.2 now.
People are aware of it now.
They SHOULD NOW TELL US.
A lot of people that live abroad are getting worried.

 

[GBK_Fan]

If the reports of India shelling the LOC are true then it is a pathetic and disgraceful act. Below contempt.

Whatever about the spark of this conflict what Pakistan did yesterday was a gesture of genuine peace and goodwill that could easily have been ignored. Any sane democracy would have taken it and used it to deescalate tensions.

Instead to respond with shelling, and of civilian targets no less? Disgusting. Stooping to the low low levels of Israel. In any sane democracy a leader in charge of such an act in response to yesterdays gesture would be getting slated left, right and centre and pushed from office. Every single Indian soldier who dies from this point on lies solely at Modi's feet and nobody else because he had the ability to cease this instantly, and wouldnt have lost much credit for it since by having the pilot returned it could be considered a draw. Instead of being applauded by the manchildren like Gambhir and co he should be slated for throwing away needlessly the lives of the underfunded, underequipped, underpaid souls hes just thrown to their deaths. Instead this will likely somehow be construed as "patriotic" "a tough response" when in reality caving for violence, always an easy fix, is a cowardly, weak response from a leader obviously looking for distractions.

Shocking tbh. Indias reputation is taking a hammering from people following this because it was reported everywhere yesterday that Pskistan gave the pilot back, only to wake up to bombs. So utterly needless.

Respond to Indian soldiers dying by ordering acts, after peaceful gestures, that lead to more dying. Insanity. Imran is emerging from this a significantly more mature and sensible leader than Modi is, and I couldnt give a toss about petty India vs Pakistan debates or the old Kashmir one like the keyboard warriors here do, but I'm just calling it as I see it.

Hope Pakistan continue exercising restraint. One leader has to behave like an adult and it clearly aint Modi, who's obviously being fuelled by a hypernationalistic press and upper class.

Upper class? Really smart guy. Did you bother looking at the interview of the Pakistani foreign minister with CNN? He tells us how the wanted terrorist Masood Azhar is very sick and how Pakistan cannot arrest him.

IK deescalated and kudos to him for that. When does he go and get rid of the non state actors operating on his soil? Or should India wait for the next massacre so we can convince Donald sitting in Ireland that we want to live in peace too. How about you read more about this or just shut up?

 

[GBK_Fan]

I can only go off what I read from people on both sides. But why would Pakistan do this after yesterday? It makes no sense.

I fear for the 2nd Indian pilot who to my knowledge is still in hospital. I highly doubt he'll now benefit from such generous treatment as the first guy. His country have somewhat sold him off in a way, what hope can he have now of release?

Are you sure you are following both sides? Why will India accept 1 pilot and deny the other? Heck we are fighting in court for Kulbhushan Jadhav. You remember who denied Osama right? Who refused to accept the dead in Kargil? And if you are looking for sources, there are enough backed up claims from either side about the second plane.

I can understand the Pakistani posters being emotional. I really don’t see why we have to accept half baked posts from a guy in Ireland. Read up or just shut up.

 

[Vegitto1]

Upper class? Really smart guy. Did you bother looking at the interview of the Pakistani foreign minister with CNN? He tells us how the wanted terrorist Masood Azhar is very sick and how Pakistan cannot arrest him.

IK deescalated and kudos to him for that. When does he go and get rid of the non state actors operating on his soil? Or should India wait for the next massacre so we can convince Donald sitting in Ireland that we want to live in peace too. How about you read more about this or just shut up?

Stop killing Kashmiris if you don’t want Indians dying. Why can’t you get that through your thick head!

 

[GBK_Fan]

Stop killing Kashmiris if you don’t want Indians dying. Why can’t you get that through your thick head!

Don’t start a proxy war if you don’t like it. If you want to play with fire don’t cry when you get burnt.

 

[AAli98]

India has deliberately chosen site of Iok to target pakistan nd escalate the war,they are using kashmiris of IOK as human shield in order to save themselves frm pakistan military response.Indian army brutally killing civilians in azad kashmir
#KashmirBleeds
#KOTLI

Win win for india both sides muslim/kashmiris dying- proper haraam khoor nation!!

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Where are all the do gooders now?

Pathetic from IK too. This blood is on his hands.

 

[IMMY69]

Where are all the do gooders now?

Pathetic from IK too. This blood is on his hands.

Pathetic post.

Traitor

 

[slipcatch]

Don’t start a proxy war if you don’t like it. If you want to play with fire don’t cry when you get burnt.

Dude,

You aren’t winning anything.

You aren’t taking any Pakistani

You aren’t stopping Kashmiri from fighting for their rights

You aren’t gaining anything

The only reason this is being continued is because your country has elected a radicalized extremists Hindu lunatic.

The lunatic would do anything to win the seat.

And Bhakths want that, you seem to be one.

Bhakths need to understand, Modi will not make another mistake of entering Pakistan in fear of losing more soldiers which will not help his cause of getting re elect

 

[Pakpak]

Where are all the do gooders now?

Pathetic from IK too. This blood is on his hands.

While his decision can be questioned I highly doubt India would have behaved better.

 

[slipcatch]

While his decision can be questioned I highly doubt India would have behaved better.

Exactly.

The radicalized extremists Hindu lunatic is desperate for power.

He would be happy to kill few more of his or other as long as he gets re elected.

 

[IMMY69]

While his decision can be questioned I highly doubt India would have behaved better.

IK executed the art of diplomacy to perfections...

If the soldier wasn’t released, India would have attacked. Whatever IK did, India was likely to attack.
At least now we have the upper hand when it comes to PR and our standing with the rest of the world..

Anyone criticising this decision is an imbicile

 

[90MPH]

India got their soldier back and so now have started shelling cillvilians.

What is their media going to say this time, that we took down more so called terrorist camps ?

Imran Khan still done the right thing, if the other side wants to behave this way then you can’t do anything !

Modi is a coward anyway, he has too many extremists in his party who dont have any courage to keep them in check so how will he make any comprise for peace ?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Upper class? Really smart guy. Did you bother looking at the interview of the Pakistani foreign minister with CNN? He tells us how the wanted terrorist Masood Azhar is very sick and how Pakistan cannot arrest him.

IK deescalated and kudos to him for that. When does he go and get rid of the non state actors operating on his soil? Or should India wait for the next massacre so we can convince Donald sitting in Ireland that we want to live in peace too. How about you read more about this or just shut up?

I've mentioned the bolded bit before and originally condemned Pakistan for it after India first retaliated. I didnt consider India's first foray into Pakistan an issue for that reason. There was no need to continue doing it however, and it doesnt justify todays events when efforts were made and olive branches extended which you could have taken to prevent tonights deaths, instead you caused death yourself. Well done.

PS - dunno who this Donald guy is.

Are you sure you are following both sides? Why will India accept 1 pilot and deny the other? Heck we are fighting in court for Kulbhushan Jadhav. You remember who denied Osama right? Who refused to accept the dead in Kargil? And if you are looking for sources, there are enough backed up claims from either side about the second plane.

I can understand the Pakistani posters being emotional. I really don’t see why we have to accept half baked posts from a guy in Ireland. Read up or just shut up.

Its a forum and I take interest in Kashmir due to its similarities with our own past conflict. Also, even if I was from somewhere else, its a forum. The entire point of this place is to discuss stuff. As you say Im just a no name nobody thousands of miles away nobody should care about. Why you getting upset? I dont pretend otherwise And neither have I claimed to be an expert. I normally veer well clear of this stuff, but this is big news atm, hence I wanna learn.

As for my own personal standpoint I always strive for a balanced view. Two days ago pakistanis were accusing me of being a typical western ignorant who just follows media blindly, now I hate India The truth always lies in a murky grey area, never black or white.

Truth is I couldnt give a damn about sides, the conflict interests me and I can give my opinion on it. If you feel im uneducated, maybe direct me to information then.Its somewhat telling you resort to petty insults and childish bullying instead. And when I say information I mean genuine sources. I treat unverified sensationalist dirge the same whether it be Pakistani or Indian.

To summarise again. Pakistan funding terrorism in the area is ******** and reprehensible. I do think the original act that started this came as a result of that. India were entitled to respond and did so, killing nobody too but simultaneously sending a message. Job done.

Got cocky, went over the border again, got shot down. Image damaged. Pakistan couldve executed those soldiers but instead showed some guts, gave one back and the other is receiving care to my knowledge. That shouldve been taken as a genuine gesture and the tensions eased.

Instead you have intentionally attacked it seems civilian areas, which is never ever justifiable, and reescalated things. If the other pilot was your concern whos still injured, why the eff would you attack the nation currently treating him? Pakistan are entitled to respond to that.

If ending massacres of Indian soldiers was your real aim, and I mean your real one, you would know just as well as anyone else that that solution lies nowhere near bombing anything. It lies in listening to the people there and making some compromises with them to reach a deal. No other way.

And just so you know, everyone's opinion on a forum is ultimately worthless, especially mine and including yours None of us matter, thats the whole appeal of the place.

FWIW I aint even remotely emotional over this. Far more people have and will continue to die elsewhere that I wont ever even hear about. This is just me expressing an opinion and taking an interest in the world. Dont like it? Feel more than free to ignore. It aint gonna bother me.

 

[Lexical]

India has deliberately chosen site of Iok to target pakistan nd escalate the war,they are using kashmiris of IOK as human shield in order to save themselves frm pakistan military response.Indian army brutally killing civilians in azad kashmir
#KashmirBleeds
#KOTLI

Win win for india both sides muslim/kashmiris dying- proper haraam khoor nation!!

ha ha.. kuch bhi !!!