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Pakistan India Tension - Latest Updates (Post Release of Abhinandan)

Syed1 said:
The guy in the video says time right now is around 7:30... And time in Pak now is almost 11:30, so it has been 4 hours already.
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The plane on the 27th was shot down at what time? Pakistan Time?
Coz the official msg was released at 11:20 pakistan time.
 
a_tahir said:
The plane on the 27th was shot down at what time? Pakistan Time?
Coz the official msg was released at 11:20 pakistan time.
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The Pak attack and Indian response plus jets being shot down all happened during daylight hours.
 
Syed1 said:
The Pak attack and Indian response plus jets being shot down all happened during daylight hours.
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Bhai news coming in that India and Israel had planned today's attack together. I saw a clip in which Hamid Mir is interviewing Shah Mehmood Qureshi and they discussed it. I will try to find the video.
 
Till then see this :

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Indian TV channel shows Masjid Al Aqsa in Jerusalem as 'Masood Azhar's terror factory in Pakistan' | <a href="https://t.co/YNHQTbEiF2">https://t.co/YNHQTbEiF2</a></p>— Baba Umar (@BabaUmarr) <a href="https://twitter.com/BabaUmarr/status/1102590660975226880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Indian media has officially lost it.
 
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Madplayer said:
Bhai news coming in that India and Israel had planned today's attack together. I saw a clip in which Hamid Mir is interviewing Shah Mehmood Qureshi and they discussed it. I will try to find the video.
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So do u think a plane HAS been shot down today or not?
 
Madplayer said:
Bhai news coming in that India and Israel had planned today's attack together. I saw a clip in which Hamid Mir is interviewing Shah Mehmood Qureshi and they discussed it. I will try to find the video.
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It's everywhere on the social media now.. we should be surprised though. India and Israel make natural allies..
 
shaaik said:
It's everywhere on the social media now.. we should be surprised though. India and Israel make natural allies..
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a_tahir said:
So do u think a plane HAS been shot down today or not?
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Madplayer said:
Bhai news coming in that India and Israel had planned today's attack together. I saw a clip in which Hamid Mir is interviewing Shah Mehmood Qureshi and they discussed it. I will try to find the video.
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See the video

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India planned to attack Pakistan from an air base of Rajasthan with the help of Israel but Pakistan came to know about this plan and it was averted- Foreign Minister <a href="https://twitter.com/SMQureshiPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SMQureshiPTI</a> says “those who patronise Israel are aware of anti-Pakistan activities of Israel” <a href="https://t.co/2RvbCBxQS7">pic.twitter.com/2RvbCBxQS7</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1102605704823746565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Somebody embed it please.
 
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shaaik said:
It's everywhere on the social media now.. we should be surprised though. India and Israel make natural allies..
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Being allies is fine. Supplying of weapons and diplomatic assistance is also fine. But this is serious business. Israel has tried to attack Pakistan alongside India in an active battle. This will have serious consequences on how Pakistan looks at its defense. Zionist-Hindutva Nexus has become a reality.

And today USA has deployed THAAD in Israel. Surely this move is because of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal given the paranoid state that Israel is.
 
Hamza_ said:
So Afghanis have sided with India?

What a joke.
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Not the entire Afghans, but the terrorist Militants trained by Indian spy agencies.

The Afghan Taliban don't support India, they are busy defending their territory.
 
Manager101 said:
From Twitter:

"Pakistani forces at the Afghan border are high alert since this afternoon. There is a concern in Pakistan that Pakistan may face a two-front assault: from Afghanistan by militants and from India by Indian forces."

https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1102628283886256130
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I don't believe that will happen. Unkil has told afghan Gov/ANA/NDA to sit in a corner. They don't want the Taliban peace talks to de-rail. If Afghanis do any mischief, Taliban will be walking away, and expect massive Taliban operations against Kabul gov come spring.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Indian Sukhoi-30 shoots down Pakistani drone in Bikaner sector<br><br>Read <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ANI</a> Story | <a href="https://t.co/iaeOcSZd72">https://t.co/iaeOcSZd72</a> <a href="https://t.co/FkePNwH5HO">pic.twitter.com/FkePNwH5HO</a></p>— ANI Digital (@ani_digital) <a href="https://twitter.com/ani_digital/status/1102570262845968385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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They allegedly used a SU-30 to bring THAT down? :yk2
 
Lol at the pakistani comments on this post.
I was fully expecting indian trolls but the most liked comments are from pakistanis whom are talking about the need for the IAF to get their SU-30 to shoot down a HBL psl type drone.
 
What did we ever do to Israel? Why are they getting involved in this? They have to be utterly Naïve if they side with India and help them in an attack against Pakistan. Pakistan is no Arab state, Pakistani missiles are fully capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Dimona where they have their Nuclear assets.
 
Savak said:
What did we ever do to Israel? Why are they getting involved in this? They have to be utterly Naïve if they side with India and help them in an attack against Pakistan. Pakistan is no Arab state, Pakistani missiles are fully capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Dimona where they have their Nuclear assets.
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Israel has too many toys and wants to get involved in a war.

Otherwise whats the point of spending billions and billions on weapons.

The biggest winner for me in all this is the US (seller of weapons).
 
Savak said:
What did we ever do to Israel? Why are they getting involved in this? They have to be utterly Naïve if they side with India and help them in an attack against Pakistan. Pakistan is no Arab state, Pakistani missiles are fully capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Dimona where they have their Nuclear assets.
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Pakistan, a nation for Muslims which is now an Islamic republic is Israel's issue.

As for missiles reaching Tel Aviv, this would only be as a final last stand resort. Israel and it's friends would pretty much finish off Pakistan. The best to deal with Israel is via covert means as Iran has been doing. Pakistan should support Hezbollah, the only militant group Israel is scared of.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Pakistan, a nation for Muslims which is now an Islamic republic is Israel's issue.

As for missiles reaching Tel Aviv, this would only be as a final last stand resort. Israel and it's friends would pretty much finish off Pakistan. The best to deal with Israel is via covert means as Iran has been doing. Pakistan should support Hezbollah, the only militant group Israel is scared of.
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I would rather that Pakistan and the ISI stay clear of all these terrorist, Islamic extremist groups they have been supporting and that have become uncontrollable now. We need to focus on uplifting the lives of our people and focusing on human development. The army should just strictly focus on the defence of the country and that's it. No need to fight anyone's proxy war. I would further advocate establishing diplomatic relations with Israel and doing what is best in Pakistan's interest given how pro India and indifferent the Palestinians have been to the Kashmir issue.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Pakistan, a nation for Muslims which is now an Islamic republic is Israel's issue.

As for missiles reaching Tel Aviv, this would only be as a final last stand resort. Israel and it's friends would pretty much finish off Pakistan. The best to deal with Israel is via covert means as Iran has been doing. Pakistan should support Hezbollah, the only militant group Israel is scared of.
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Israel can barely deal with untrained Palestinians, in a solider to solider combat and gureilla war fare, they will meet the same fate as the US in Vietnam/Iraq, British/USSR in Afghanistan
 
Savak said:
I would rather that Pakistan and the ISI stay clear of all these terrorist, Islamic extremist groups they have been supporting and that have become uncontrollable now. We need to focus on uplifting the lives of our people and focusing on human development. The army should just strictly focus on the defence of the country and that's it. No need to fight anyone's proxy war. I would further advocate establishing diplomatic relations with Israel and doing what is best in Pakistan's interest given how pro India and indifferent the Palestinians have been to the Kashmir issue.
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Savak said:
Israel can barely deal with untrained Palestinians, in a solider to solider combat and gureilla war fare, they will meet the same fate as the US in Vietnam/Iraq, British/USSR in Afghanistan
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Have you ever met an Israeli?

I was in South Asia in the summer and a couple sat opposite me. They asked where I'm from and I said the UK, they smiled. A few mins later I said my family is from Pakistan, they frowned. This wasnt a one off as I've met a few in the UK too. The point is Israeli dont like Pakistani and the Israeli state would rather see the destruction of Pakistan instead of being friends with Pakistan.

Of course guerilla warfare is different as Hezbollah took out over a 100 Israeli troops when they invaded Lebanon. I mentioned Pakistan attacking them with missiles, which would only see one real winner unless Pakistan is willing to take them down with us.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Have you ever met an Israeli?

I was in South Asia in the summer and a couple sat opposite me. They asked where I'm from and I said the UK, they smiled. A few mins later I said my family is from Pakistan, they frowned. This wasnt a one off as I've met a few in the UK too. The point is Israeli dont like Pakistani and the Israeli state would rather see the destruction of Pakistan instead of being friends with Pakistan.

Of course guerilla warfare is different as Hezbollah took out over a 100 Israeli troops when they invaded Lebanon. I mentioned Pakistan attacking them with missiles, which would only see one real winner unless Pakistan is willing to take them down with us.
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Tbf I have met a few Israelis in Europe during a medical conference, 2 were ex-IDF. Answering their questions on tourism in Pakistan and their interest in doing so they were baffled at hearing Pakistani views on Israel and were genuinely disappointed they probably would never be allowed to come in Pakistan. :)) Most of them were simply curious as they say Pakistan is never really mentioned back home in great depth. My brother studied with Israelis students too, said they were normal like him and genuinely interested in Pakistan.
 
Pakpak said:
Tbf I have met a few Israelis in Europe during a medical conference, 2 were ex-IDF. Answering their questions on tourism in Pakistan and their interest in doing so they were baffled at hearing Pakistani views on Israel and were genuinely disappointed they probably would never be allowed to come in Pakistan. :)) Most of them were simply curious as they say Pakistan is never really mentioned back home in great depth. My brother studied with Israelis students too, said they were normal like him and genuinely interested in Pakistan.
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My neighbor here in Seattle are Israeli. Kids are over our house almost all the time. Get Israeli stuff every time they go back home. And the guy is ex-IDF. There are a lot of Israelis here working for Microsoft or Amazon and almost all are ex-IDF. I haven't had any bad issues. Most of the time you are polite and don't discuss sensitive issues :D
 
KingKhanWC said:
Have you ever met an Israeli?

I was in South Asia in the summer and a couple sat opposite me. They asked where I'm from and I said the UK, they smiled. A few mins later I said my family is from Pakistan, they frowned. This wasnt a one off as I've met a few in the UK too. The point is Israeli dont like Pakistani and the Israeli state would rather see the destruction of Pakistan instead of being friends with Pakistan.

Of course guerilla warfare is different as Hezbollah took out over a 100 Israeli troops when they invaded Lebanon. I mentioned Pakistan attacking them with missiles, which would only see one real winner unless Pakistan is willing to take them down with us.
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I wouldn't generalize. I work for a 99% Jewish owned and operated mid sized firm in Toronto and I can honestly admit this has been the best firm I have worked in so far. The vast majority of employees and partners have Israeli ties and travel there once a year and have openly expressed sympathies with Israel against Palestinians. However these guys have been extremely nice too me and have taken care of me and this is the happiest I have been in my accounting career so far where I have worked for both desis and ***** in Canada. They are also just humans at the end of the day like us.

Lol, I didn't mention Pakistan attacking Israel unilaterally but we have to send the message across to them that any back door covert support from their side to India will be seen as an act of aggression against Pakistan. When they make plans like conniving to take out Pakistan's nukes or jointly supporting an Indo Israeli attach on Pakistan, Pakistan cannot be reactive.

Besides I honestly don't think a nation of 6-8 million people should be taken as a godly threat by a nation with 200 million people.
 
Who can forget Dan Kiesal. He was our longest serving Physiotherapist in the Pakistani team in the 90's. Most Pakistani players remember him very fondly. He operates his sports injury clinic in Toronto as of now.
 
cric_man said:
My neighbor here in Seattle are Israeli. Kids are over our house almost all the time. Get Israeli stuff every time they go back home. And the guy is ex-IDF. There are a lot of Israelis here working for Microsoft or Amazon and almost all are ex-IDF. I haven't had any bad issues. Most of the time you are polite and don't discuss sensitive issues :D
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Bhai in Israel every one has to do mandatory military service, so every able bodied Israeli is ex-IDF, unless they chickened out for one reason or the other.


My barber for the last 3-4 years was Israeli.... used to get such slick cuts from him. He was amazed when I told him that on my Pakistani passport it says "this passport is valid for all countries except Israel". He was like but Israel and Pak don't even have a fight and I thought to myself you should ask that from your government :amir3


Recently the guy moved back to Israel and now I had to get a cut from some random guy, didn't turn out so well :inti
 
Savak said:
I wouldn't generalize. I work for a 99% Jewish owned and operated mid sized firm in Toronto and I can honestly admit this has been the best firm I have worked in so far. The vast majority of employees and partners have Israeli ties and travel there once a year and have openly expressed sympathies with Israel against Palestinians. However these guys have been extremely nice too me and have taken care of me and this is the happiest I have been in my accounting career so far where I have worked for both desis and ***** in Canada. They are also just humans at the end of the day like us.

Lol, I didn't mention Pakistan attacking Israel unilaterally but we have to send the message across to them that any back door covert support from their side to India will be seen as an act of aggression against Pakistan. When they make plans like conniving to take out Pakistan's nukes or jointly supporting an Indo Israeli attach on Pakistan, Pakistan cannot be reactive.

Besides I honestly don't think a nation of 6-8 million people should be taken as a godly threat by a nation with 200 million people.
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You've met Jews who visit Israel. I was referering to Israeli's who live in Israel. People who have moved from other parts of the world or their parents did because according to them God is an estate agent. Since you've never met one with such an ideology it will be hard to understand their views.

It's not 6-8 million people, Zionists come in other forms too such as Christians. If you think the likes of the US and others will sit back and allow Pakistan or any other nation to wage war on Israel, you have a lot to learn.
 
Pakpak said:
Tbf I have met a few Israelis in Europe during a medical conference, 2 were ex-IDF. Answering their questions on tourism in Pakistan and their interest in doing so they were baffled at hearing Pakistani views on Israel and were genuinely disappointed they probably would never be allowed to come in Pakistan. :)) Most of them were simply curious as they say Pakistan is never really mentioned back home in great depth. My brother studied with Israelis students too, said they were normal like him and genuinely interested in Pakistan.
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Strange people if true. Being ex IDF they have abused people yet can't understand why Muslims might not see them in good light.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Strange people if true. Being ex IDF they have abused people yet can't understand why Muslims might not see them in good light.
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I don't think all have. These two had to do the one mandatory year or something. Otherwise I don't think they had the physique or look to be a proper solider so to speak :)) Plus you'd be surprised how little people know of the world. Czech, where I went, people intermixed us, India and Sri Lanka. Some think of us and Afghanistan as the same thing and kept saying 'terrible war' till I had to make the distinction we ain't Afghans.

They were surprised as Pakistan is barely mentioned in their media, yet back home 'Jew' is not only synonymous with Israel but also used as an insult. An example is Imran Khan, who has been labelled a 'Jewish agent' all his life.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You've met Jews who visit Israel. I was referering to Israeli's who live in Israel. People who have moved from other parts of the world or their parents did because according to them God is an estate agent. Since you've never met one with such an ideology it will be hard to understand their views.

It's not 6-8 million people, Zionists come in other forms too such as Christians. If you think the likes of the US and others will sit back and allow Pakistan or any other nation to wage war on Israel, you have a lot to learn.
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I don't think the West especially the US will entertain the stupidity of Israel waging a war with Pakistan knowing Pakistan has the 6th largest army in the world and has the weaponry to exterminate Israel forever.
 
Pakpak said:
I don't think all have. These two had to do the one mandatory year or something. Otherwise I don't think they had the physique or look to be a proper solider so to speak :)) Plus you'd be surprised how little people know of the world. Czech, where I went, people intermixed us, India and Sri Lanka. Some think of us and Afghanistan as the same thing and kept saying 'terrible war' till I had to make the distinction we ain't Afghans.

They were surprised as Pakistan is barely mentioned in their media, yet back home 'Jew' is not only synonymous with Israel but also used as an insult. An example is Imran Khan, who has been labelled a 'Jewish agent' all his life.
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Imho I think they themselves have made 'Jew' as an insult as any cricticism of Israel is replied by 'youre antisemitic'.

Savak said:
I don't think the West especially the US will entertain the stupidity of Israel waging a war with Pakistan knowing Pakistan has the 6th largest army in the world and has the weaponry to exterminate Israel forever.
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It will always be portrayed as self defence. Even when they are stealing land , their excuse is they are Jews and need to live in safety in their God given land. You advocate good relations with Israel? Why should Pakistan have any relations with extremists?
 
I believe in the policy, keep your friends closer and your enemies closer. You only build relationships with people by constantly talking to them and being in touch with them. Pakistan needs to aim to neutralize the Indo Israeli nexus and be the driving force in the world to bridge the gap between the Arab World and Israel. The Palestinians have openly supported India and Yasser Arafat had categorically refused to support Pakistan on Kashmir. Why should we do the Palestinians any favors? Nothing is for charity and neither should be. It is time to put the interests of Pakistan first.
 
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