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Pakistan Super League's role in discovering stars

SameerK

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How much can we credit PSL giving our young players exposure and early experience propelling them to the big world stage. Without the PSL would we see stars like Shadab, Hasan and Fakhar in our XI? Did anyone believe that PSL would even benefit our ODI XI? Credit can also to the people who helped set up such tournament which will go on to help Pakistan as the years go on.
 
I'll give PSL lot of credit for getting our boys exposed to pressure situations and crunch knockout games in front large crowds on television.

That experience has clearly helped them in this CT. The way Fakhar, Shadab and Ali have performed with such confidence on the big stage is a testament to that.
 
I'll give PSL lot of credit for getting our boys exposed to pressure situations and crunch knockout games in front large crowds on television.

That experience has clearly helped them in this CT. The way Fakhar, Shadab and Ali have performed with such confidence on the big stage is a testament to that.

Yes I agree with this. PSL role is more nuanced than discovering stars. It has exposed them to pressure situations and of course sharing the dressing room with international stars can help to give confidence. In terms of the players discovery in PSL
- for shadab khan perhaps we could argue that, since he is young and only started his domestic career in 2016
- hasan ali has been playing for 4 years in domestic figures and has had decent figures to boot: whats interesting about him is that he never made the jump from under 16 to under 19. Instead he scouted in to the domestic game.
- fakhar zaman is quite old compared to the usually narrative of Pakistan throwing in young talent in to the deep: he is 27 years old, he has also been playing for 4 years and in his case his domestic stats are a strong indicator of his international performance. But yes, the PSL provided the spotlight to boost his case. Lest we forget, he was one the highest scorers in the recently concluded Pakistan Cup. the partnership between him and Sahibzada Farhan took their unfancied team to the final.
Going forward I hope Sahibzada finds a PSL team next year as well.
 
From memory, Sharjeel Khan also benefitted from PSL exposure.
 
i think PSL can do even more for our batting in terms of putting these youngsters front and center...the first 2 editions has seen international players (foreign and domestic) hog the top of the order (1-5). We need our youngsters to be slotted in key positions at top to get the most exposure.
 
It prepares players for handling pressure situations, also helps refining their game according to international expectations thanks to better support staff and international peers.

But the most important thing is that it helps differentiating domestic hacks vs international stuff. We need couple of more sessions to get refined set of players.
 
i think PSL can do even more for our batting in terms of putting these youngsters front and center...the first 2 editions has seen international players (foreign and domestic) hog the top of the order (1-5). We need our youngsters to be slotted in key positions at top to get the most exposure.

How would this be implemented? Reducing the number of foreign players in each playing xi (currently four)? Or by placing a cap on the number of foreign batsmen/bowlers/AR that could play?

I for one was disappointed the likes of Hasan Mohsin weren't given a game despite being in the KK squad.
 
Don't think Sharjeel, Fakhar, Shadab, Rumman would have been in the squad if not for psl
 
Clearly it has done wonders and that too after only 2 years of the PSL as well, imagine what else we can unearth in coming years when more teams and hence more players take part.
 
Mickey arther says they have already highlighted ten more players who are on the cusp and will be working with the required coaches. Azhar mehmood said they are looking for players who are willing to work hard and work to the new team ethos not just raw talented ones..
 
Mickey arther says they have already highlighted ten more players who are on the cusp and will be working with the required coaches. Azhar mehmood said they are looking for players who are willing to work hard and work to the new team ethos not just raw talented ones..

Link to the interview?
 
What i hope from the next PSL is continued improvment from the current lot of youngsters, Farhan, Talat and Faheem in particular all impressing. I also have hope for Nasir Nawaz and Ammad Butt, hope they get contracts.

Heard a lot about Saif Badar as well

Would also be nice to find an offspiner somewhere


Hopefully a 6th team will mean players who will be our future will get a go rather then an uncle 11
 
What i hope from the next PSL is continued improvment from the current lot of youngsters, Farhan, Talat and Faheem in particular all impressing. I also have hope for Nasir Nawaz and Ammad Butt, hope they get contracts.

Heard a lot about Saif Badar as well

Would also be nice to find an offspiner somewhere


Hopefully a 6th team will mean players who will be our future will get a go rather then an uncle 11
Also hoping that even more foreign players want to participate in the PSL next time. would be nice to get de villiers, warner etc as well.
Agree about Sahibzada Farhan
 
Mickey arther says they have already highlighted ten more players who are on the cusp and will be working with the required coaches. Azhar mehmood said they are looking for players who are willing to work hard and work to the new team ethos not just raw talented ones..

round of applause for Azhar Mahmood as well. Deserves a thread.
 
Also hoping that even more foreign players want to participate in the PSL next time. would be nice to get de villiers, warner etc as well.
Agree about Sahibzada Farhan

Will be difficult to get any of the main players from the Southern Hemisphere as that is there part of their main home calendar
 
PSL has everything to do with Pakistani playing new brand of Cricket. Youngsters are more international ready. In PSL they work with Foreign coaches and players, that exposure builds their soft and overall skill, not possible on local basis. Every season we get couple of International ready players like Sharjeel, Hasan, Raees, Fakhar, Shadab, Nawaz all in just two seasons...The other important thing players take away is fitness and skill requirements for International Cricket...

This victory will introduce our top players Amir, Hasan, Fakhar, Shadab to English and AUS domestic and T20 leagues. One county season can further polish Amir and Hasan's swing and reverse swing skills. Don't forget WC is in England in 2019. Pakistani has bowled better than anybody of right length for English conditions, they will only improve after county season!!

BTW: PSL need to improve younger players exposures, Misbah picking Rafetullah after Sharjeel ejection was very embarrassing.

We are missing players from AUS and SA, which is understandable because of summer in those countries :(
 
I think PSL played a huge role in pakistan's change of fortunes; and also more importantly Mickey's involvement with Karachi Kings, where he can see players in PSL from close quarters.

Expansion of PSL from 5 to 6 teams and their SAF franchise is also a good news.

One thing PCB can do is raise the salary of domestic oldies 30+ (who have not yet played international cricket so far) and bar them from PSL. So that those guys wont come on TV and bash our young players unnecessarily.

Other important thing is PCB must do something about number of matches we play yearly. We have a gap of 2 months now and no cricket until October. This is terrible. If Bangladesh can not come, ask Zimbabwe, they will always reciprocate our friendship. For now leave Bangladesh and AFG behind (they are highly influenced by BCCI, no point convincing them, it is like talking to BCCI)

Unless 4/5 formal tours by Zim/IRL or may be Scotland will not happen, don't see the likes of SL/ENG/NZ/AUS to visit.

And if, ODI/T20 series can be shifted from UAE to England or even Ireland that will be fantastic for us.
 
PSL found Hasan, Imad, Sharjeel, Fakhar, Shadab, Rumman, Babar... don't forget it was PSL who brought the return of AAMER to the team!!!!
 
PSL helped but people are over-glorifying the PSL. You have to remember that a lot of these boys were already playing domestic cricket and doing quite well.
 
PSL is great initiative clearly the cricketers are coming the guys love being on the big stage.

The PSL will only come off once there are more suitable players picked,and they play

Rafatullah momand,what is he going to do to help Pakistan cricket,on top of that I think he didn't look like a batsmen at all more like a tailender,

Misbah is cancerous to our crickets development 1 team out of 5 is not going to produce talent apart from Shadi whom he had to play he played his friends 11.

Smith
Billings/Rafatullah
Haddin
Whatto
Misbah
Amad
Shadab
Rumman
Shami
Irfan/Ajmal/Badree

Atleast Nauman Anwar should have been picked for Rafatullah
 
round of applause for Azhar Mahmood as well. Deserves a thread.
While he was bashed constantly for his alleged bust-up with Sohail Khan, I think Mickey and Azhar have taken the right decision. Sohail might be performing well but he is a liability in the field and his fitness levels are doubtful. Should look to unearth a tearaway quick with skills (please no more of Wahab Riaz).
 
PSL helped but people are over-glorifying the PSL. You have to remember that a lot of these boys were already playing domestic cricket and doing quite well.

Doing quite well doesn't mean they would ever pick in Pak team. PCB is one of most incompetent black elephant on the earth. I can explain your how PSL helped these guys, PSL is very hyped event, and almost every Pakistani watches it. When these guys performed in front of millions people, then PCB had to add these kids otherwise people may say PCB is even more dumb thing earth than we are guessing....
 
It didn't create the stars, but it gave them traction and gave them a platform to show their skills to the world.

Those that were already performing in domestics found it to be an easy transition to do well in PSL. Naturally, you'd expect that.

Ofc some trash was there too.
 
PSL helped but people are over-glorifying the PSL. You have to remember that a lot of these boys were already playing domestic cricket and doing quite well.

Yes, its more about exposure than discovery is my feeling. With its televised pageantry the PSL made these performers 'real' for the selectors. Let's call it the Shinwari effect.
 
Doing quite well doesn't mean they would ever pick in Pak team. PCB is one of most incompetent black elephant on the earth. I can explain your how PSL helped these guys, PSL is very hyped event, and almost every Pakistani watches it. When these guys performed in front of millions people, then PCB had to add these kids otherwise people may say PCB is even more dumb thing earth than we are guessing....

You are both right. The other question to ask is who among strong LA list performers are being ignored because they didnt do well enough in the PSL? T20 and ODIs are different games and it is not necessarily a good thing if the most credible route into the national ODI teams goes via the PSL.
 
BTW: PSL need to improve younger players exposures, Misbah picking Rafetullah after Sharjeel ejection was very embarrassing.

Agreed. Not sure who was responsible for selecting Rafatullah, but when his name was announced I was so disappointed.
 
PSL is great initiative clearly the cricketers are coming the guys love being on the big stage.

The PSL will only come off once there are more suitable players picked,and they play

Rafatullah momand,what is he going to do to help Pakistan cricket,on top of that I think he didn't look like a batsmen at all more like a tailender,

Misbah is cancerous to our crickets development 1 team out of 5 is not going to produce talent apart from Shadi whom he had to play he played his friends 11.

Smith
Billings/Rafatullah
Haddin
Whatto
Misbah
Amad
Shadab
Rumman
Shami
Irfan/Ajmal/Badree

Atleast Nauman Anwar should have been picked for Rafatullah

So much hate for Misbah, yet we got Rumman, Shadab and soon we will get Hussain Talat from IU. What have the other franchises given us so far? Stop your blind hate.
 
Link to the interview?

its on youtube if you can find it..was a good post match discussion..really worth watching..some interesting *** bits e.g. Hasan getting some offers from counties, etc..also Azhar's insight was really interesting..
 
PSL is great initiative clearly the cricketers are coming the guys love being on the big stage.

The PSL will only come off once there are more suitable players picked,and they play

Rafatullah momand,what is he going to do to help Pakistan cricket,on top of that I think he didn't look like a batsmen at all more like a tailender,

Misbah is cancerous to our crickets development 1 team out of 5 is not going to produce talent apart from Shadi whom he had to play he played his friends 11.

Smith
Billings/Rafatullah
Haddin
Whatto
Misbah
Amad
Shadab
Rumman
Shami
Irfan/Ajmal/Badree

Atleast Nauman Anwar should have been picked for Rafatullah

So much hate for Misbah, yet we got Rumman, Shadab and soon we will get Hussain Talat from IU. What have the other franchises given us so far? Stop your blind hate.

The way Misbah rebuilt the team post-2010 deserves our respect. The words "cancerous" and "Misbah" shouldn't appear together in one sentence.
 
its on youtube if you can find it..was a good post match discussion..really worth watching..some interesting *** bits e.g. Hasan getting some offers from counties, etc..also Azhar's insight was really interesting..

Struggling to find it atm, will keep an eye out. That said, I seem to have got the gist of it from friends etc.
 
its on youtube if you can find it..was a good post match discussion..really worth watching..some interesting *** bits e.g. Hasan getting some offers from counties, etc..also Azhar's insight was really interesting..

Scratch that. I have found it- thanks.
 
The way Misbah rebuilt the team post-2010 deserves our respect. The words "cancerous" and "Misbah" shouldn't appear together in one sentence.

So,I don't feel that,lost us a World Cup and a T-20 World Cup
 
More than discovering stars, the PSL's main job is to develop the undercooked domestic players. PSL teams conduct trials, but it will be a miracle if even one of these trials unearth a international cricketer who has not had the opportunity to play professional cricket yet. As far as developing players is concerned, we can see it already when it comes to player like Hasan, Fakhar, Shadab, Rumman etc.

They are getting a taste of what it is like to play against big crowds, in high pressure matches and against international quality opposition. We have seen the influence of the IPL on the Indian players. When you are playing against the best players in the world in front of packed stadiums before making your international debut, the jump from domestic cricket to international cricket becomes insignificant.

Most of our youngsters post PSL have taken to international cricket like fish to water, and none of them were discovered by the PSL. It has only accelerated and enhanced their development as cricketers.
 
PSL is a litmus test, given the exposure.. It gives a better insight as to how a player may perform against international players, in a pressure situation, which leads me to say that it's proven to be a brilliant initiative so far. I just hope in the third edition, there is a continued effort for discovering new talent as opposed to recycling old garbage and throwing in players that have shown no real promise.
 
More than discovering stars, the PSL's main job is to develop the undercooked domestic players. PSL teams conduct trials, but it will be a miracle if even one of these trials unearth a international cricketer who has not had the opportunity to play professional cricket yet. As far as developing players is concerned, we can see it already when it comes to player like Hasan, Fakhar, Shadab, Rumman etc.

They are getting a taste of what it is like to play against big crowds, in high pressure matches and against international quality opposition. We have seen the influence of the IPL on the Indian players. When you are playing against the best players in the world in front of packed stadiums before making your international debut, the jump from domestic cricket to international cricket becomes insignificant.

Most of our youngsters post PSL have taken to international cricket like fish to water, and none of them were discovered by the PSL. It has only accelerated and enhanced their development as cricketers.

Plus if they perform in the PSL, which nearly even Pakistan cricket fan watches, it puts added pressure on the selectors.
 
It gives the young and unknown players a platform to perform and be seen by the selectors. Also working with international stars and pro coaches is vital for the younger players.

PSL has helped Pakistan cricket and will continue to assist Pakistan. Need to get it into Pakistan asap though.
 
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