Pakistan to benefit from new UK immigration system

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The United Kingdom (UK) government has announced a new immigration system to enable the "best and brightest" to visit UK to study, work or live.

According to a statement from the British High Commission on Wednesday, most senior official from the UK Home Office, Permanent Secretary Matthew Rycroft, who is on a two-day visit to Pakistan, made the announcement for UK Home Office’s new immigration system that will "level the global playing field" for the people willing to travel to the UK.

The UK and Pakistan have a long and shared history that is bolstered by the 1.6 million Pakistani diaspora in the UK that is at the heart of the ties between the two countries and it is these people-to-people ties that make Pakistan a particularly important partner for the UK Home Office, the statement said.

“These ties are reliant on an effective and well-functioning migration relationship and the UK is committed to strengthening our visa routes and facilitating those wishing to travel between the two countries,” the statement quoted Rycroft as saying.

It said that Pakistani students will benefit from the new graduate routes, providing an excellent opportunity for them to enter into skilled roles in the UK job market.

Rycroft said that the Home Office is delivering an immigration system that offers clear opportunities to the "best and brightest" from Pakistan to come to the UK to study, work and live.

Moreover, the Secretary in a range of engagements and meetings at the Ministry of Interior and associated agencies discussed shared priorities and future cooperation between the two countries to affirm bilateral ties.

He conferred challenges affecting operational cooperation and identified areas of mutual interest to expand collaboration. Highlighting the ground-breaking collaboration between Metropolitan Police and Pakistani authorities last year, which resulted in getting justice for the murder of Dr Imran Farooq,

Rycroft expressed his desire to work closely with the government of Pakistan to tackle shared threats and bring criminals to justice.

On recent developments in Afghanistan, Rycroft discussed various security issues including narcotics smuggling, human trafficking, and illicit finance. This is the second visit of a senior British representative to Pakistan in the last three months. Former Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab visited Islamabad in early September and met senior Pakistani leaders including Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2329994/pakistan-to-benefit-from-new-uk-immigration-system

 

[Robert]

Oh dear. That subset of Leave voters who voted Leave because “immigrants” won’t be pleased.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The best and brightest already find their way over here. Well they will if they can't get into USA or Australia. What we really need is more unskilled labour to do the dirty jobs which Brits don't want to do. Maybe we could put asylum seekers on training courses to work in old people's homes and HGV driving?

 

[Technics 1210]

This is great news.

Quality over quantity.

Great progress on UK immigration after leaving discriminate and unfair EU immigration system.

Meet the standards and you are welcome in the UK. All equal under a fair and indiscriminate immigration policy.

 

[Robert]

This is great news.

Quality over quantity.

Great progress on UK immigration after leaving discriminate and unfair EU immigration system.

Meet the standards and you are welcome in the UK. All equal under a fair and indiscriminate immigration policy.

[MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] is right. We need quantity, not quality - to staff nursing homes, drive trucks, pick crops and slaughter the pigs. Will Pakistanis do that? Certainly not the latter, I think!

 

[Technics 1210]

[MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] is right. We need quantity, not quality - to staff nursing homes, drive trucks, pick crops and slaughter the pigs. Will Pakistanis do that? Certainly not the latter, I think!

Yet the EU immigrants who were allegedly holding these jobs (as this is what you are insinuating) fled the country (no one forced them out) while the genuine and quality EU immigrants stayed. Says a lot about the intention of immigrants who abused the discriminate freedom of movement policy. Or we could just allow any refugees from war torn countries who will no doubt end up sponging off the welfare system, or worse, commit acts of terror.

Australia does well with its points based system, as does Canada.

Here’s a thought, increase the wages of those petty jobs like picking crops and slaughtering pigs?

 

[Robert]

Yet the EU immigrants who were allegedly holding these jobs (as this is what you are insinuating) fled the country (no one forced them out) while the genuine and quality EU immigrants stayed. Says a lot about the intention of immigrants who abused the discriminate freedom of movement policy. Or we could just allow any refugees from war torn countries who will no doubt end up sponging off the welfare system, or worse, commit acts of terror.

Australia does well with its points based system, as does Canada.

Here’s a thought, increase the wages of those petty jobs like picking crops and slaughtering pigs?

Could do, but the cost would have to be passed onto the consumer, pushing up the cost of food at a time when more and more are in food and fuel poverty.

Britons don’t want to do the dirty jobs, though. That’s what we had East Europeans for. They were not forced out, but UK leaving the Single Market made it uneconomic for them to stay.

 

[Technics 1210]

Could do, but the cost would have to be passed onto the consumer, pushing up the cost of food at a time when more and more are in food and fuel poverty.

Britons don’t want to do the dirty jobs, though. That’s what we had East Europeans for. They were not forced out, but UK leaving the Single Market made it uneconomic for them to stay.

How did leaving the UK single market make it uneconomic for them to stay?

 

[mazkhan]

Eu migrants didn't flee the country 6 million applied for citizenship .

They bettered themselves over the years so no longer want to do menial jobs and work like slaves cleaning bottoms, or packing parcels , and driving trucks .

But that 6 million has added a further burden on the benefits system tax credits , schools , roads , hospitals, housing etc.

 

[mazkhan]

First the polish did the dirty jobs once they got clued on most bettered themselves or ones who couldn't left and went back home or to Germany and other states .

Then Romanians were imported and now they have got clued on and many are not willing to do these slave jobs.

The moment you bring pakistanis from abroad to work as fruit pickers most will try to get out of the trade and try to find other jobs in a warehouse or driving a uber or something and in pakistanis case many will have kids and leech of the system for benefits and council houses .

Does anyone really belive those middle Eastern young men arriving on dinghies will be doing the back breaking work the East europeans have been doing for last 15 yrs +

 

[Technics 1210]

It’s a myth that English workers didn’t do the menial jobs, I mean someone was picking fruit, veg, crops, slaughter pigs etc before the Eastern block joined the EU. What was the situation before then? Pig meat shortages? Fruit and veg shortages?

The reality is when the Eastern block joined the EU, they were prepared to work for a fraction of the wages, this drove wages down, profits up, and the English workers simply moved on. Now the situation is the business owners want to keep their wages low to maximise profits but English workers are simply not prepared to work for small wages. Thus increasing the wages of said menial jobs will attract English workers, just how it was before the EU.

The influx of unfettered EU immigration has resulted in a massive imbalance of economies. It will take a while to settle out.

 

[mazkhan]

Pakistanis arabs Afghans are all hustlers there's no way they will do an honest day's work and will look for shortcuts to make money and swindle people, even if it leads to criminality you just need to look at the amount of criminal activities pakistanis and Afghans are involved in the UK.

The UK is fed up from unskilled immigration and no one wants it anymore because of the burden it puts on the infrastructure and the benefits system which tops up low wages .

The UK has to move ahead and go towards a hi tech economy and hi tech manufacturing just like Germany for that you need educated or skilled workforce not uber drivers and just eat pizza delivery guys .
The service economy is not fit for purpose you can't run a country where people rely on jobs from Costa coffee and cafe Nero , pret manger and lockdowns put millions on their backside on furlough.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistanis arabs Afghans are all hustlers there's no way they will do an honest day's work and will look for shortcuts to make money and swindle people, even if it leads to criminality you just need to look at the amount of criminal activities pakistanis and Afghans are involved in the UK.

The UK is fed up from unskilled immigration and no one wants it anymore because of the burden it puts on the infrastructure and the benefits system which tops up low wages .

The UK has to move ahead and go towards a hi tech economy and hi tech manufacturing just like Germany for that you need educated or skilled workforce not uber drivers and just eat pizza delivery guys .
The service economy is not fit for purpose you can't run a country where people rely on jobs from Costa coffee and cafe Nero , pret manger and lockdowns put millions on their backside on furlough.

You mentioned Germany as an example of high tech manufacturing, but they have a pretty generous immigration policy unless I'm mistaken. They certainly have a sizeable Turkish population.

Who does the plumbing and deliveries in these high tech nations? Do they get robots to clear the drains and do the bricklaying? Does Gran in the old people's home get her nappies changed by R2D2?

 

[Dios]

The 'best and the brightest' don't want to come to the UK.

 

[mazkhan]

1000 undocumented dinghy riders have turned up in the UK just in 1 day

24000+ have just come across this year

And will they be working in care homes , construction industry or as butchers

I very much doubt it

How many of these afghanis are picking fruit in the orchards of Kent.

Idiotic people who are supporting this mass unsustainable immigration and then think why the NHS , schools, roads and other vital amenities are overstretched in an overpopulated high density overcrowded country .

Where in inner city areas you have 20 30 people crammed in houses by landlords driving up rents and house prices .

 

[Technics 1210]

1000 undocumented dinghy riders have turned up in the UK just in 1 day

24000+ have just come across this year

And will they be working in care homes , construction industry or as butchers

I very much doubt it

How many of these afghanis are picking fruit in the orchards of Kent.

Idiotic people who are supporting this mass unsustainable immigration and then think why the NHS , schools, roads and other vital amenities are overstretched in an overpopulated high density overcrowded country .

Where in inner city areas you have 20 30 people crammed in houses by landlords driving up rents and house prices .

Correct. Asylum seekers, Refugees, Visa overstayers in their unlimited numbers add zero value to society or the economy. Most turn out to sponge the welfare system (which taxpayers fund), others resort to crime. I guess the faint-hearted liberals can open their property doors and nurture them into what constitutes a loyal, quality, and genuine immigrant.

Time to get tough. Send them back.

 

[gani999]

The problem will persist as long as new arrivals, legal or illegal, are allowed to claim benefits. Shut down the benefit system for anyone who has been in the country for less than five years and/or has not paid into the system by way of taxes and you'll solve the illegal immigration problem in an hour.
Denmark already showed it. When they replaced the doles given to illegals with free food supermarket vouchers the number of asylum seekers dropped overnight.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The problem will persist as long as new arrivals, legal or illegal, are allowed to claim benefits. Shut down the benefit system for anyone who has been in the country for less than five years and/or has not paid into the system by way of taxes and you'll solve the illegal immigration problem in an hour.
Denmark already showed it. When they replaced the doles given to illegals with free food supermarket vouchers the number of asylum seekers dropped overnight.

TBH I think this is an approach we need to take for the millions of unemployed here that have no intention of working no matter what their immigration status or ethnic background is.

 

[mazkhan]

The 'best and the brightest' don't want to come to the UK.

Even the skilled don't want to come here

I have 2 family relatives one is a mechanic and the other is a master tailor both in pakistan

I asked them whether they want to go abroad they say no why we earn a decent living in pakistan and are skilled and valued in pakistan by our community as a mechanic and a darzi.

why would we wanna go to the west or Middle East

The darzi has 2 houses in karachi and large area of land in punjab .

 

[Technics 1210]

The 'best and the brightest' don't want to come to the UK.

It depends on which sector. In IT, the best and brightest from Europe flock to the UK. Better exchange rate means they earn way more than they would back home. German, Dutch, Spanish, and Italian engineers are some of the best, plus being multi-lingual gives them the extra advantage. The legal sector is also one of the strongest in the UK for similar reasons.

Saying this, UK has some of the worst taxation levels, including corporate tax, and VAT. Too much red tape means it’s very difficult for entrepreneurs to set up shop. Better tax incentives as well as cuts would most certainly attract the best and brightest from all sectors.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The best and brightest already find their way over here. Well they will if they can't get into USA or Australia. What we really need is more unskilled labour to do the dirty jobs which Brits don't want to do. Maybe we could put asylum seekers on training courses to work in old people's homes and HGV driving?

I reckon that in a couple of years we will have free movement within Europe again, under a new name though, and it will be seen as a victory.

 

[Technics 1210]

The problem will persist as long as new arrivals, legal or illegal, are allowed to claim benefits. Shut down the benefit system for anyone who has been in the country for less than five years and/or has not paid into the system by way of taxes and you'll solve the illegal immigration problem in an hour.
Denmark already showed it. When they replaced the doles given to illegals with free food supermarket vouchers the number of asylum seekers dropped overnight.

Legals are not allowed to access any welfare benefits for at least 5 years, the government wants to see them pay NI contributions first. The illegals cannot access welfare benefits at all, thus are more likely to commit crimes and work cash in hand. The asylum seeker and refugee - the welfare system is at their disposal - paid by the government, housed by the government, and fed by the government.

UK is too soft because far left liberalism has taken over.

 

[Technics 1210]

I reckon that in a couple of years we will have free movement within Europe again, under a new name though, and it will be seen as a victory.

Already have it, it’s call freedom of labour. We had it before the EU (when UK joined the EEC), we have it now. Just the EUphiles don’t like waiting in passport queues.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

TBH I think this is an approach we need to take for the millions of unemployed here that have no intention of working no matter what their immigration status or ethnic background is.

Agreed. Then you wouldn't need immigrants to do the dirty jobs, the locals would have to do them if they wanted to buy the latest iphone.

 

[Technics 1210]

Even the skilled don't want to come here

I have 2 family relatives one is a mechanic and the other is a master tailor both in pakistan

I asked them whether they want to go abroad they say no why we earn a decent living in pakistan and are skilled and valued in pakistan by our community as a mechanic and a darzi.

why would we wanna go to the west or Middle East

The darzi has 2 houses in karachi and large area of land in punjab .

A master tailor will have little opportunity in the UK. Reasons are obvious, the wider demographic of whites equate a tailor to 3 piece suits, Savile Road and thing, basically for the upper and rich class. If a master tailor from any South Asian country want to earn good money in the UK, his target market will be desis.

The mechanic, gone are the days where a Mechanic would come in handy, today cars brought from a show room come with 3 to 5 year guarantees, and most issues can be resolved by connecting to the car computer to diagnose etc. where a mechanic would benefit is the second hand car market but that is now in tatters after the UK government made a U-turn on diesel engines, and of course, the drive to end all petrol cars by 2030. Not to mention mechanics that helped with MOT; it’s nigh on impossible to for a mechanic to dodge an MOT test - every mechanic has to be certified by DVLA.

 

[gani999]

Legals are not allowed to access any welfare benefits for at least 5 years, the government wants to see them pay NI contributions first. The illegals cannot access welfare benefits at all, thus are more likely to commit crimes and work cash in hand. The asylum seeker and refugee - the welfare system is at their disposal - paid by the government, housed by the government, and fed by the government.

UK is too soft because far left liberalism has taken over.

Illegals can access benefits as soon as they are awarded refugee status. In most countries (EU/UK) that takes less than five years. Just that the amounts paid don't cover one's needs adequately and they take to crime to top up their requirements.

 

[Technics 1210]

Illegals can access benefits as soon as they are awarded refugee status. In most countries (EU/UK) that takes less than five years. Just that the amounts paid don't cover one's needs adequately and they take to crime to top up their requirements.

Exactly, refugee status is different from illegal status.

An illegal is someone who has a visiting visa and overstays his stay. Cannot access the welfare system.

Refugee status is granted before said person enters the UK.

 

[Kroll]

Illegals can access benefits as soon as they are awarded refugee status. In most countries (EU/UK) that takes less than five years. Just that the amounts paid don't cover one's needs adequately and they take to crime to top up their requirements.

That’s the whole point of awarding refugee status so they can get funded. Unless they start doing a job paying more than the benefit threshold.