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"Pakistan will have to pay" : Indian Defence Minister

Traveller55 said:
Um hello, the gap is growing, not getting smaller. Pakistan is yet to sustain growth for 3 consecutive years...
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Sir idk where you get your info from but we were in the top five fastest growing economies in this year and we are expected to improve on that next year, and all of this when CPEC hasn't even come online, but please go ahead and continue your chest thumping.
 
Syed1 said:
Actually long-term projections of growth are pretty similar for Pakistan and India so I don't know where you got this 2.5 times per capita figure from.
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The Population to GDP ratio is almost identical between Pakistan and India.

It's a myth Indian ecnomy is growing faster, if anything, Indian economy is playing catch up.
 
Syed1 said:
Sir idk where you get your info from but we were in the top five fastest growing economies in this year and we are expected to improve on that next year, and all of this when CPEC hasn't even come online, but please go ahead and continue your chest thumping.
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In terms of fastest growing economies in the world, African economies leave every economy for dust.

Ethiopia as an example : http://www.africanews.com/2018/01/1...fastest-growing-economy-world-bank-forecast//
 
R3verse Swing said:
The Population to GDP ratio is almost identical between Pakistan and India.

It's a myth Indian ecnomy is growing faster, if anything, Indian economy is playing catch up.
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India is 24-40% ahead on population to GDP ratio, depending on real or PPP terms.
Its a myth that Pakistan is man for man even in the same league as India.
 
R3verse Swing said:
24 to 40% ahead. Look at the spread. Yet Petrol costs 56% more in India.

Next please.
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Petrol costs more because India subsidizes petrol prices less because its people are richer than Pakistan.

GDP to population gap between india and Pakistan is 24-40%. Therefore the statement ' Population to GDP ration is almost identical' is false.

Easy to destroy baseless nonsense. Next.

India's GINI quotient is 35, Pakistan's is 30. Ie, Pakistan is 24-40% poorer on average than India but wealth distribution is better by 16%.

Ie, The average Indian is richer than the average Pakistani. Its a fact and by a significant margin. Next.
 
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Traveller55 said:
India is 24-40% ahead on population to GDP ratio, depending on real or PPP terms.
Its a myth that Pakistan is man for man even in the same league as India.
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Sir India has more poor people than Pakistan has people (I'm not making it up it is in world bank reports). You can choose to ignore it.
 
Syed1 said:
Sir India has more poor people than Pakistan has people (I'm not making it up it is in world bank reports). You can choose to ignore it.
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Um ok.
USA has more poor people than UK. Doesn't mean UK is in USA's ballpark. China has more poor people than Ethiopia.
The strength of economy is based on per-capita and total (real nominal) amount. And in both counts, India is far superior to Pakistan.
 
It's nice to see India looks up to Pakistan. Pakistan is the yardstick for India! For all comparison!

Love it!

:87:
 
Traveller55 said:
And still they are richer on average than the average Pakistani.
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That just means the richest 1% of India are richer than the richest 1% of Pakistan. Hardly anything to chest thump about when you have the highest number of poor people in the world.


If anything it shows the huge spread in the country between the rich and the poor. :hafeez2
 
Syed1 said:
That just means the richest 1% of India are richer than the richest 1% of Pakistan. Hardly anything to chest thump about when you have the highest number of poor people in the world.


If anything it shows the huge spread in the country between the rich and the poor. :hafeez2
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No.
A 25% real wealth gap and 44% of PPP wealth gap, with a 16% lesser income equality means that Indians of similar jobs are richer than Pakistanis- all through their society.
The average poor Indian rickshaw driver is richer than his Pakistani counterpart. The same for engineers, doctors, etc.
Its just that the average Indian is poorer than their ultra rich, than the same in Pakistan.
This is basic math, really.
 
Traveller55 said:
No.
A 25% real wealth gap and 44% of PPP wealth gap, with a 16% lesser income equality means that Indians of similar jobs are richer than Pakistanis- all through their society.
The average poor Indian rickshaw driver is richer than his Pakistani counterpart. The same for engineers, doctors, etc.
Its just that the average Indian is poorer than their ultra rich, than the same in Pakistan.
This is basic math, really.
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If the case was as you present it then the per capita incomes of both countries wouldn't so similar as it is at present.
 
Syed1 said:
If the case was as you present it then the per capita incomes of both countries wouldn't so similar as it is at present.
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It isn't similar.
India leads Pakistan by 25% in real nominal per capita GDP. It leads Pakistan by 44% in purchasing power parity (value of money).

If someone is 25-44% richer than you, they are significantly richer than you and not 'similar income' at all.
Infact, in most countries making 25-44% more puts you in a completely new tax bracket.
 
Traveller55 said:
It isn't similar.
India leads Pakistan by 25% in real nominal per capita GDP. It leads Pakistan by 44% in purchasing power parity (value of money).

If someone is 25-44% richer than you, they are significantly richer than you and not 'similar income' at all.
Infact, in most countries making 25-44% more puts you in a completely new tax bracket.
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Lol now if you are resorting to pulling numbers out of a hat then we should end this discussion right here
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] bhai. What he means is that India's economy is about 1000% bigger than Pakistan, and all Indians have to show for it is a 22% to 40% larger nominal wealth per person. Not only is the spread as wide as Brighton front, but Indians have to pay more than Pakistanis for the same services in their respective countries.

You couldn't make it up.
 
if i am not wrong, last i heard that an avg of $1.2 per day is what indian labor gets every day.
and just last week i tried to fix my store room floor, one labor took about $10 per day for it, and i hired 3 labors to fix it.
 
R3verse Swing said:
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] bhai. What he means is that India's economy is about 1000% bigger than Pakistan, and all Indians have to show for it is a 22% to 40% larger nominal wealth per person. Not only is the spread as wide as Brighton front, but Indians have to pay more than Pakistanis for the same services in their respective countries.

You couldn't make it up.
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India is 10 time bigger but has 8 times greater the population. Meaning, despite being a much bigger economy and thus, much harder to improve ( much harder to find jobs for 10000 people than 1000 people), Indians on general are 20-44% more productive than Pakistanis. Amazing job by our neighboring giant.
 
The numbers you are arguing with are "2018 estimate" when we are just 2 months into 2018 :)))


Also the fact that you use a website like Wikipedia :)))
 
Finally, he agrees, India's GDP is larger due to its population.

This is why GDP/Population ratio between Pakistan and India is almost identical!

Oh what a glorious Wednesday!
 
R3verse Swing said:
Finally, he agrees, India's GDP is larger due to its population.

This is why GDP/Population ratio between Pakistan and India is almost identical!

Oh what a glorious Wednesday!
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It isn't identical. India leads the ratio by 22-44%. Thats an entire higher tax bracket or two.
I know you are too scared to quote me directly, but evidence has been provided by me to show your 'identical' statement is pure nonsense.
22-44% superiority PER MAN is not identical. Its the income gap between a junior clerk and manager in Canada.
 
Someone doesn't understand GDP/Population ratio. Nothing to do with PPP.

Pakistan is 14% population of India, and Pakistan's GDP is around 14% that of India's.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Someone doesn't understand GDP/Population ratio. Nothing to do with PPP.

Pakistan is 14% population of India, and Pakistan's GDP is around 14% that of India's.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

India's population: 1.324 billion
India's Nominal GDP: 2.654 trillion

Pakistan's population: 209.9 million
Pakistan's Nominal GDP : 304.4 billion.

India : Pakistan (Population) = 1324 : 209.9 = 6:30 :1

India : Pakistan ( GDP) = 2654 : 304.4 = 8.71:1

someone needs to learn basic math if they think 6.3:1 is 'identical' to 8.71: 1
No wonder Pakistan cannot even make their own cars or basic machinery if the mathematical knowledge is poor enough to think almost 9:1 is same as just over 6:1
 
And since ratios are too tough, as %:

209.9/1324* 100 = 15.85%
304.4/2654*100 = 11.46 %

If we are to round these numbers, India's economy is nearly 9 times greater than Pakistan's despite only having just over 6 times the population.
 
14% is 7.14, which is bang in the middle of 6.30 and 8.70 based on Population and GDP ratios above. This is granting the source cited.

No one mentioned identical. English fail. Also good to know one has learned GDP/Population ration instead of citing PPP.

I said *around*, or *almost* to 14%

But once again Indians have proved me correct by citing a number which on average concludes the figure is 14%.

I. LOVE. IT.

:)
 
R3verse Swing said:
14% is 7.14, which is bang in the middle of 6.30 and 8.70 based on Population and GDP ratios above. This is granting the source cited.

No one mentioned identical. English fail. Also good to know one has learned GDP/Population ration instead of citing PPP.

I said *around*, or *almost* to 14%

But once again Indians have proved me correct by citing a number which on average concludes the figure is 14%.

I. LOVE. IT.

:)
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http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...Indian-Defence-Minister&p=9612412#post9612412

Post 106. " Almost identical". Liars and propagandists are so easy to refute.
 
The only thing that matters, is that the average Indian is 22-44% more productive and thus, richer than the average Pakistani, depending on if you want to measure real money or power of money ( a dollar isn't worth the same everywhere on the planet).

Ie, the same wage gap between a grocery store owner and a lawyer in my part of the world.
 
First it is claimed I said *Identical*, then this is retracted to *almost identical*.

Why post evidence when one admits it in the first place?

Oh the joy!
 
Traveller55 said:
The only thing that matters, is that the average Indian is 22-44% more productive and thus, richer than the average Pakistani, depending on if you want to measure real money or power of money ( a dollar isn't worth the same everywhere on the planet).

Ie, the same wage gap between a grocery store owner and a lawyer in my part of the world.
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How do you explain poverty rate of 3 times as much in India compared to Pakistan?

http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/PAK
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/IND

India has an inequality divide far greater than Pakistan. 1% have something like 70% of the wealth in India (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indias-richest-1-corner-73-of-wealth-generation-oxfam-survey-1802968). So your wealth is going to the richest of the richest. That would also explain why you have far more poverty than Pakistan as a percentage of your population. That says very little about how your "average Indian" is doing.
 
Traveller55 said:
The only thing that matters, is that the average Indian is 22-44% more productive and thus, richer than the average Pakistani, depending on if you want to measure real money or power of money ( a dollar isn't worth the same everywhere on the planet).

Ie, the same wage gap between a grocery store owner and a lawyer in my part of the world.
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The other thing you have to realize is that Pakistan's GDP is significantly understated due to the underground economy. Pakistan's real GDP is estimated at atleast 400 billion, and likely as much as 500 billion. The base year they are using is 2000, whereas India is at least 2010 if not higher. This would explain why India on paper is richer but go out onto the streets it's quite different. It also partially explains the significant difference in the poverty rate.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Another point readers should note is while India's GDP annual growth rate is around 6.5%, when you factor in inflation, around 5%, the actual growth rate is around 1.6%.

This is less than the EU, and almost the same as Pakistan!

https://tradingeconomics.com/india/gdp-growth

:)
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Indias real growth rate adjusted for inflation is upwards of 6.5% in last 3 years. I dont say it. The following link says it.


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2003.html

Lol

[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]
[MENTION=146517]Traveller55[/MENTION]
[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION]
 
By the way, I love how an Indian is tagging in Bangladeshi users for support. Irony alert to the max.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
 
Like DW44 said, India is Pakistan on steroids. Nothing more nothing less
 
Pakistan will 'pay back India in its own coin' for any misadventure, warns defence minister

"Pakistan will pay [back] India in its own coin in case of any misadventure," Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan warned on Tuesday, responding to his Indian counterpart's comments from a day earlier.

Following a militant attack over the weekend on an Indian army camp in Sunjuwan in Jammu — which left 10 people dead, including five Indian soldiers and a civilian — the Indian Foreign Minister Nirmala Sitharaman directly blamed Pakistan for the attack, saying: "Pakistan will have to pay for Saturday’s militant attack [...] Intelligence inputs show that terrorists were controlled by their handlers from across border. Evidence are being scrutinised by NIA (National Intelligence Agency). ******tan is expanding the arch of terror to areas south of Pir Panjal and resorting to ceasefire violations to assist infiltration."

Khan, in a statement issued on Tuesday, said: "Instead of the knee-jerk reaction of blaming Pakistan without substantiation, India must answer for state-sponsored espionage against Pakistan."

"Living evidence in person of Kulbhushan Jadhav is in front of the world," he added.

He said that Pakistan's armed forces are fully prepared to defend the country and "any Indian aggression, strategic miscalculation, or misadventure regardless of its scale, mode, or location will not go unpunished and shall be met with an equal and proportionate response."

"India has failed to deliver justice to the 42 Pakistanis murdered in the Samjhota Express terrorism eleven years ago," Khan said, adding that India is destabilising regional and world peace "through irresponsible statements on nuclear deterrence" and escalation of attacks on the Line of Control.

"An aggressive Pakistan-centric doctrine and arrayed forces under a belligerent regime leading to possible strategic miscalculation by India will seriously impact the strategic stability in South Asia," he warned.


'War hysteria'

Sitharaman's comments came a day after Islamabad had urged New Delhi not to whip up war hysteria.

On Sunday, Pakistan’s foreign ministry had strongly rejected similar allegations voiced by the Indian media.

“A particular section in the Indian media runs with their innuendos to malign Pakistan and whips up public frenzy. We are confident that the world community would take due cognisance of India’s smear campaign against Pakistan, and the deliberate creation of war hysteria,” the foreign ministry statement had said.

The Indian Express, however, quoted Sitharaman as claiming otherwise. “Terrorists belon*ged to Jaish-e-Mohammed, sponsored by Azhar Masood residing in Pakistan and der*iving support from there in,” she was quoted as saying.

“Giving the evidences to Pakistan will be a continuous process. It will have to be proved over and over again that they are responsible. Pakistan will have to pay for this misadventure.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1389178/p...n-for-any-misadventure-warns-defence-minister
 
Traveller55 said:
I think India is justified to play hard-ball with Pakistan.
Afterall, the Indian parliament bombing yeilded no effort from Pakistan to round up suspects. India is also not the only country to accuse Pakistan at aiding and abetting terrorists using Pakistani soil and then doing nothing to catch them- USA has made the same allegations, despite Pakistan being a 'key US ally'.

US is a responsible power- it certainly doesn't call out its allies for duplicity all the time, so when they do, the world does sit up and take notice.

So after 10+ years of Pakistan not playing ball, India might as well use the bigger stick they got.

The fact that India has made diplomatic gains regarding Kashmir and inroads into some of Pakistan's key backers in the gulf, is testament to its policy working.

I think India is on the right track in terms of dealing with Pakistan. It has realized that outright military threat against an aggressive nuclear power doesn't work. No-matter how much superior Indian conventional military gets, Pakistan cannot be taught a lesson the way Pakistan wants to teach others a lesson- via military.
So India is currently playing to its strengths : undermining Pakistan with its superior diplomatic corps, economic leverage and simply speaking, able to out-compete Pakistan amongst a lot of its would-be supporters.

This is the war of attrition India is more suited to winning and the results are showing : Indian economy is leaving Pakistan behind, Indian image globally is improving & Pakistan's is deteriorating. India's diplomatic links globally are strengthening and Pakistan is losing ground.

So I'd say Modi-led BJP is playing the 'long game'- which Pakistan is far likelier to lose.
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Pakistan is not going to round up suspects just because India or the US says so. Pakistan will only help India if a similar effort is made by Indians to resolve ALL outstanding bilateral issues.

We all know the duplicity with which the US has behaved when it comes to geopolitics. Their word literally means nothing and Pakistan has dealt with the US in much more depth than India ever has. Pakistan has openly milked the US for more than a decade and it's not like the US isn't aware of it, yet they have failed to ever use the stick.....go figure why.

Again, Modi's isolating Pakistan policy is a big failure. He has not learned anything from history and is superficial in his expectations. Only a person unaware of Pakistan would try to cozy up with the prime minister and try to go around the military. This move alone from Modi shows how amateur he is and I doubt he fully understands Pakistan's depth when it comes to proxy wars.

India can carry on doing what it likes but this policy will not help it gain any leverage over Pakistan. Indian economy is not comparable to Pakistan's...bad example. Pakistan's image has taken a fall but it's something Pakistan has been through before (think early 90s), I don't think that keeps Pakistanis up at night.

Modi's policy will result in a stalemate...which should be obvious to anyone who has read up on the two countries history.

The issue with Indians is...since Modi is such a massive upgrade on all their previous leaders (on domestic issues) they have started considering him infallible. His foreign policy vis a vis Pakistan will not yield anything...and might even make things worse.
 
Easy to talk war when you are not going to be the one putting your life on the line. Politicians just love to run their mouths.

Ask soldiers of both sides whether they want war and you will get a resounding no. (Don't take that as a weakness, these men are ready to give their lives if needed)
 
India will fabricate surgical strikes again without showing any evidence to calm down their people. Pak will deny any such attack calling India's bluff. That is the most India can do, nothing else. They are just trying to deflect the Kashmiri people's anger in IoK on us. Being a nuke power and neighbouring Afghanistan Pak is strategically to important a country to be isolated or ignored. These are just wet dreams of the Indian media as always. What is the criteria for being internationally isolated?? India will receive a befitting reply in the case of any misadventure. As much as I am no fan of Hafiz Saeed or Masood Azhar we can not imprison them just to please Bharat.
 
PakLFC said:
India will fabricate surgical strikes again without showing any evidence to calm down their people. Pak will deny any such attack calling India's bluff. That is the most India can do, nothing else. They are just trying to deflect the Kashmiri people's anger in IoK on us. Being a nuke power and neighbouring Afghanistan Pak is strategically to important a country to be isolated or ignored. These are just wet dreams of the Indian media as always. What is the criteria for being internationally isolated?? India will receive a befitting reply in the case of any misadventure. As much as I am no fan of Hafiz Saeed or Masood Azhar we can not imprison them just to please Bharat.
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ye lo bhai, another fake "Sir Ji Kal Strike" is ready ..

Indian Army gears up to carry another surgical strike against Pakistan without crossing the border
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they are forgetting tht pakistan has more lethal ATGM thn the previous once..
 
[MENTION=140488]Lonewarrior[/MENTION]

They will call the filming of an action scene in some Bollywood movie "surgical strikes":klopp That is what chronic liar's do.
 
PakLFC said:
[MENTION=140488]Lonewarrior[/MENTION]

They will call the filming of an action scene in some Bollywood movie "surgical strikes":klopp That is what chronic liar's do.
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You mean the liars who till the day before fall if Dhaka said they were winning the war or the one who refused to take responsibility of Kargil war and abandoned their dead? Or the ones who kept lying about OBL. Everyone knows who are the chronic liars.
 
cricketjoshila said:
You mean the liars who till the day before fall if Dhaka said they were winning the war or the one who refused to take responsibility of Kargil war and abandoned their dead? Or the ones who kept lying about OBL. Everyone knows who are the chronic liars.
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Here you go again with the same old nonsense! This debate has nothing to do with Dhaka so open another thread on the or the thrashing off 1947, 1948 and 1965 given to you. No the liar's who spoke of the first surgical strike that only happened in their dreams. The liars who make silly movies like "Phantom" only to run back with their tail between their legs. Did you witness the OBL funeral at sea who had been killed many times before the said event!? I don't think so!
 
PakLFC said:
Here you go again with the same old nonsense! This debate has nothing to do with Dhaka so open another thread on the or the thrashing off 1947, 1948 and 1965 given to you. No the liar's who spoke of the first surgical strike that only happened in their dreams. The liars who make silly movies like "Phantom" only to run back with their tail between their legs. Did you witness the OBL funeral at sea who had been killed many times before the said event!? I don't think so!
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The Pak Army has a history of lying.

What thrashing in 47 or 48 or 65? Go read any neutral literature. Only in the minds of some pakistanis did pakistan win a war with india.

Phantom movie is now govt response? What next? Usa is a liar because star wars didnot happen?

Pakistan govt accepted that obl was killed in pakistan.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The Pak Army has a history of lying.

What thrashing in 47 or 48 or 65? Go read any neutral literature. Only in the minds of some pakistanis did pakistan win a war with india.

Phantom movie is now govt response? What next? Usa is a liar because star wars didnot happen?

Pakistan govt accepted that obl was killed in pakistan.
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Liars like Indian's pointing out others people's lies is the cheapest excuse. We all know how you are the biggest liars accusing Pak terrorists of being in Mumbai when they were sitting in Lahore. I have read history, take your own advice and read impartial history instead of NDTV's rubbish. No movies like "Phantom" are just fantasies of glorifying your pathetic rapist army making them look superhuman! Pak government did not accept anything, what you on about! We broke you in 1947 and hammered you in 65! At Kargil you rushed to Israel for help, this has been discussed and said many times here before. How much more humiliation do you want me to dish out to you?
 
PakLFC said:
Liars like Indian's pointing out others people's lies is the cheapest excuse. We all know how you are the biggest liars accusing Pak terrorists of being in Mumbai when they were sitting in Lahore. I have read history, take your own advice and read impartial history instead of NDTV's rubbish. No movies like "Phantom" are just fantasies of glorifying your pathetic rapist army making them look superhuman! Pak government did not accept anything, what you on about! We broke you in 1947 and hammered you in 65! At Kargil you rushed to Israel for help, this has been discussed and said many times here before. How much more humiliation do you want me to dish out to you?
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You were a colony in 1947 just like rest of the subcontinent. You did nothing. The british divided their colony as they deemed fit.

Hammered in 65? You mean when Pak Army had to fight to save Lahore? Lol. Have some shame. Yoh know what is a hammering? Read 1971.

You guys ran to america in 1999. Wasnt Sharif at white house asking for a face saver?

The world including Pakistan accepted that Mumbai was planned funded and conducted by Pakistanis.

Humiliation is what pakistan gets year after year crying about kashmir in UN and no one gives a damn.

Regarding rapist army, i will let [MENTION=146517]Traveller55[/MENTION] tell you the reality of pakistan army.
 
1993 Mumbai bombing were carried out by Indians, no reason to believe Indians were not involved in 2008 Mumbai bombings.

Who cares what the world thinks, unless tried and convicted in Pakistan court, it's all wishful thinking. Just like Modi, the world knew exactly what he did in Gujrat [and consequently banned], but Indian kangaroo courts set him free.
 
Pakistan accepted that 2008 mumbai attacks were planned funded and carried out by pakistanis.

We know the kangaroo courts in pakistan where the judge who punished mumtaz qadri ran away to dubai. Where military tribunals handout punishments.

Dont make a mockery of yourself.

Which does interpol list as the possible adress of mumbai 1993 blast mastermind Dawood?
 
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Indians of Gujrat also accept and hold Modi responsible for the religious violence in Gujrat. Planned and carried out by Modi. Their testimonies were ignored by the Indian Kangaroo court.

As least Pakistan's SC held Nawaz Shareef accountable.
 
Dawood is an Indian citizen. Regardless of where he is etc, it was an Indian responsible for 1993 Mumbai bombing.

Now spare a thought people. if Indian government/authorities could not catch Dawood, then what chance do they have in indicted Modi?

That's right, corrupt kangaroo court.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Dawood is an Indian citizen. Regardless of where he is etc, it was an Indian responsible for 1993 Mumbai bombing.

Now spare a thought people. if Indian government/authorities could not catch Dawood, then what chance do they have in indicted Modi?

That's right, corrupt kangaroo court.
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Dawood is hiding in a country known to give refuge to terrorists. He is escaping punishment by hiding. Poor you. You have no idea what good courts are since pak army can do whatever they please.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Indians of Gujrat also accept and hold Modi responsible for the religious violence in Gujrat. Planned and carried out by Modi. Their testimonies were ignored by the Indian Kangaroo court.

As least Pakistan's SC held Nawaz Shareef accountable.
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Pakistan govt officially accepts that 26 11 was carried out planned and financed by pakistanis.

Kangaroo courts are in pakistan where constitution can be thrown out on the whims of a army general.
 
Irrelevant. Dawood is wanted since 80s.

Are we to believe India, who allegedly thrashed Pakistan in wars, doesn't have the power, intellect, or capacity, to reign in an Indian?

Fact remains, an INDIAN bombed Mumbai in 1993. Till this day remains the most-destructive bomb explosions in Indian history.

Just wondering, if Dawood is in Pakistan, did he swim across?
 
Folks, let me tell you how weak and corrupt Indian Supreme court is.

Mohammad Azharuddin. We've all heard the name. Caught red handed with empirical evidence, phone call taps, wire transfers, and of course, first hand testimonies.

What did the Supreme Court of India do? They pushed his case to the BCCI’s general body to decide whether they should clear Mohammad Azharuddin of match-fixing. Guess what happened next? BCCI's general body did clear MA, and lifted his life time ban. MA went on to pursue a life in politics.

Kangaroo court by every definition of the word. Jump from one place to another.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
You were a colony in 1947 just like rest of the subcontinent. You did nothing. The british divided their colony as they deemed fit.

Hammered in 65? You mean when Pak Army had to fight to save Lahore? Lol. Have some shame. Yoh know what is a hammering? Read 1971.

You guys ran to america in 1999. Wasnt Sharif at white house asking for a face saver?

The world including Pakistan accepted that Mumbai was planned funded and conducted by Pakistanis.

Humiliation is what pakistan gets year after year crying about kashmir in UN and no one gives a damn.

Regarding rapist army, i will let [MENTION=146517]Traveller55[/MENTION] tell you the reality of pakistan army.
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India was not even a colony for goodness sake until the Mughal's merged all the islands together! This is clearly shown in the "Mahabharata" series many years back. See sense instead of talking baloney! Your generals who wanted to dine at Lahore gymkhana never ate again! 1971 was our own blunder not your bravery. At Kargil you cowards ran to Israel for help everyone even your own media accepts it, we dropped you like a bad habit and would have punished you even more had the coward Nawaz not pulled back. The world is not America, Israel and India, you seem unable to realise that! China and Russia amongst other countries accept nothing about 26/11! Chuck Hagal also accepts your involvement in Baluchistan as well in case you forgot! Kashmiris are kicking your behind making you cry like babies:ashwin It is fun watching you helplessly scream at Pak on your comedy shows! I can prove to you how disgusting your army is only that the pictures are to graphic. Even your own ladies humiliate them. Everyone knows your soldiers are starving to death, they are in no position to fight our lion hearts!
 
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"I ask them to open all routes (between India and Pakistan) to let Pakistan come here and see how we live and what we have here": Mehbooba Mufti
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