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Does the new defence pact with KSA imply that Saudi will defend Pakistan against Indian aggression?

Does the new defence pact with KSA imply that Saudi will defend Pakistan against Indian aggression?

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PM calls for expanding Pak-Saudi ties beyond defence cooperation​


Sheikh and members of his high-level delegation at the Prime Minister House on Wednesday. Photo: INP
Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has called for expanding Pakistan’s ties with Saudi Arabia beyond defence cooperation, urging a renewed focus on trade, business, and investment. He said the Kingdom was fully prepared to support Pakistan in advancing this shared economic vision.

According to Express News, the prime minister hosted a luncheon at the PM House in honour of a high-level Saudi delegation on Wednesday. Following the event, PM Shehbaz spoke to the guests, highlighting the strong and enduring ties between the two countries.

“We are gathered here like a family,” said the prime minister, recalling his decades-long political career and earlier visits to the Kingdom. “I first visited Saudi Arabia in the late 1960s. I’ve been there many times since, but the recent trip to Riyadh was unprecedented.”

He praised the unwavering support Saudi Arabia has extended to Pakistan over the years, especially during difficult times, calling the relationship 'unshakeable and based on enduring commitment'.

Referring to the recent defence agreement between the two countries, and termed it as a formalisation of their brotherly ties, the premier stated that the partnership would now focus on economic cooperation.

“Every Muslim is ready to sacrifice life for the protection of the holy sites. Pakistan will always be ready to protect Makkah and Madinah,” he said.

Looking ahead, PM Shehbaz stressed the importance of turning shared economic aspirations into reality. “We will strengthen Pakistan-Saudi ties through business and investment. For this, both nations must work together in close collaboration.”

He added that joint efforts in trade, investment, research, and development would be a key focus going forward. “Today, we have the opportunity to learn from Saudi Arabia, and we must take full advantage of it.” He also lauded the leadership of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, saying, “His visionary leadership has reshaped Saudi society and opened new horizons.”

Speaking on behalf of the Saudi delegation, Prince Mansour bin Mohammed Al Saud, who is leading the visiting team, reaffirmed the Kingdom’s intent to deepen economic ties with Pakistan.

“We are here to attend the Pakistan-Saudi Joint Business Council meeting,” he said, adding that prior to their visit, meetings were held with all key Saudi ministers to discuss potential strategic projects in Pakistan.

The meeting reaffirmed the commitment of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to deepening their partnership across all sectors, with a shared focus on long-term strategic collaboration.

Prince Mansour assured that Saudi investors would be provided with all necessary facilities to invest in Pakistan, further reinforcing the Kingdom’s readiness to collaborate on long-term economic goals.

Meanwhile, PM Shehbaz also met the chairman of the Saudi Shura Council, Dr Abdullah bin Mohammed bin Ibrahim Al Sheikh.

The chairman expressed his gratitude for the warm hospitality and termed the defence agreement a milestone in the longstanding relationship between the two nations. He said the agreement reflects the deep-rooted brotherhood between the people of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

He also stressed the importance of further strengthening parliamentary relations and called for increased cooperation between the legislative institutions of both countries.

Both leaders agreed on promoting regular exchanges of parliamentary delegations to build stronger institutional ties and foster mutual understanding.

The prime minister said that Pakistan attaches great importance to its defence agreement with Saudi Arabia, viewing it as a step that will further enhance economic, strategic, defence, and trade relations between the two brotherly countries.

During the PM's recent visit to Riyadh, on the invitation of Saudi Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia signed a landmark 'Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement,' declaring that 'any aggression against either country shall be considered an aggression against both.'

The meeting was also attended by Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Dar, Speaker of the National Assembly Ayaz Sadiq, Federal Minister Sardar Yusuf, and other senior officials.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Pakistan wants Saudi money.

Saudis want Pak Nukes just in case.

What shared economic vision does Pak and Saudis have?
 
Has Saudi Arabia also joined Pakistan in fighting against the TTP, which killed 17 Pakistani soldiers? :kp
 
Saudi forming military alliance with China via Pakistan.

No need to sweat over whether Saudi Arabia will side with Pakistan. This isn’t a school playground. Pakistan and China alone are more than enough to keep your illegal aggression in check, and still have time for 'Fantastic Chai'

PP need Abhinandan emoji
 
HalBass9 said:
Saudi forming military alliance with China via Pakistan.

No need to sweat over whether Saudi Arabia will side with Pakistan. This isn’t a school playground. Pakistan and China alone are more than enough to keep your illegal aggression in check, and still have time for 'Fantastic Chai'

PP need Abhinandan emoji
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Bhai, first keep TTP in check. BLA/TTP have killed more Pakistani army personnel this year than India have this century.
 
saimayubera said:
Bhai, first keep TTP in check. BLA/TTP have killed more Pakistani army personnel this year than India have this century.
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For any army it is far easier to destroy organized Army than terrorists backed by a country.
 
Pakistan has been hired as the new security guard and they will pay Pakistan a good salary for that service... Simple pact.
 
Whether Saudi will defend Pakistan or not is beside the point. With an official pact of mutual defence, it will make India think twice about launching wars for spurious reasons like winning votes at election time. They won't want to risk souring relations with an important trade partner like India unless there is very good reason.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Whether Saudi will defend Pakistan or not is beside the point. With an official pact of mutual defence, it will make India think twice about launching wars for spurious reasons like winning votes at election time. They won't want to risk souring relations with an important trade partner like India unless there is very good reason.
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That is your perception but India's stance is clear, any aggression will be dealt with aggression. If India was so worried about this Saudi pact, they would have withdrawn the ongoing Operation Sindoor by now. If Pakistan perpetrates Pahalagam kind of terrorist attack again, India will hit back the same way. Saudi bachane nehi aayega unfortunately.
 
Rajdeep said:
That is your perception but India's stance is clear, any aggression will be dealt with aggression. If India was so worried about this Saudi pact, they would have withdrawn the ongoing Operation Sindoor by now. If Pakistan perpetrates Pahalagam kind of terrorist attack again, India will hit back the same way. Saudi bachane nehi aayega unfortunately.
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Saudi won't do anything when India will attack Pakistan

And my prediction in next 6 month's india - Pakistan again fight to each other

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
That is your perception but India's stance is clear, any aggression will be dealt with aggression. If India was so worried about this Saudi pact, they would have withdrawn the ongoing Operation Sindoor by now. If Pakistan perpetrates Pahalagam kind of terrorist attack again, India will hit back the same way. Saudi bachane nehi aayega unfortunately.
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India is the aggressor launching military strikes first. That is the premise the world has accepted.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
India is the aggressor launching military strikes first. That is the premise the world has accepted.
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World has accepted what is a figment of imagination from Pakistanis but keeping that aside, terrorists based out of Pakistan has attacked India. So it was obvious retaliation. Every self respecting country does the same. Amreeks attacked back after 9/11, Britain attacked after 7/7, Israel attacked back after Oct 8th etc etc.

India should have done the same after 26/11 but we had a weak PM/Party back in power. Now Modi will hit back for any misadventure.

#SaudiOrNoSaudi
 
Pakistan is up against Afghan terrorism atm... Will saudi pop up to defend Pakistan now??

I don't see anything from Saudi side so far apart from a call to stop this...
 
BouncerGuy said:
Pakistan is up against Afghan terrorism atm... Will saudi pop up to defend Pakistan now??

I don't see anything from Saudi side so far apart from a call to stop this...
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The call is to show restraints from both sides, not even directly supporting pakistan
 
I don't think you guys understand how these things work.

Soon we will see a thread asking where is Saudi Arabia when Pakistan loses a wicket in the test match against South Africa.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I don't think you guys understand how these things work.

Soon we will see a thread asking where is Saudi Arabia when Pakistan loses a wicket in the test match against South Africa.
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Indians are hurt because Saudis did nt believe in their narrative of Pakistan's involvement in Plagham Attack , Saudis have huge economic interests in India and Indians think Saudis will favor them over Pakistan. So instead of Condemning Pak for Plagham , they did opposite and signed a defense pact. Now They are trying to discredit it with mindless jokes on this forum. A mere border clash with foot soldiers of TTA means nothing and does nt require Saudi assitance
 
It’s a boyish fantasy to imagine complex multi nation wars where many countries take sides purely due to friendships and directly get involved in battles. It’s exciting for many and gives them an instant adrenaline rush. That’s what boys do. But the real world is mostly not like that. When big powers are involved, third party nations avoiding getting sucked into battlefields.

The deal was clearly made with Israel in mind as the aggressor and Saudia in mind as the defendant.

As much as some Pakistanis might want to fantasize about Saudis backing Pakistan against India, the reality is that Saudis have far more comprehensive and long term economic ties with India and both nations have no reason to make an enemy out of the other.
 
SportsWarrior said:
The call is to show restraints from both sides, not even directly supporting pakistan
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Which is the correct call in a dispute between two Muslims sides in conflict, at least publicly. What really counts is what is going on behind the scenes in back channel diplomacy. These are complex war games with many players involved and the Saudis are quite savvy political operators these days. They use their influence to the best of their abilities bearing in mind the limited military capacity which has been their lot since their forefathers threw their lot in with the mushrikeen.
 
Saudi Arabia in talks with US for defence pact, FT reports

Saudi Arabia is discussing a defence deal with the United States which it hopes to seal when Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman visits the White House next month, the Financial Times reported on Friday, citing people familiar with the matter.

A senior Trump administration official told the Financial Times there were "discussions about signing something when the crown prince comes, but the details are in flux.”

The FT said the deal in discussion was similar to the recent U.S.-Qatar pact that pledged to treat any armed attack on Qatar as a threat to the United States. The U.S. deal with Qatar came after Israel last month attempted to kill leaders of Hamas with an air strike on Doha.

The U.S. State Department told the FT that defence co-operation with the kingdom was a "strong bedrock of our regional strategy," but declined to comment on details of the potential deal.

The U.S. State Department, the White House and the Saudi government did not respond to a Reuters request for comment on the FT report.

Saudi Arabia has long sought guarantees similar to the Qatar deal as part of Washington's efforts to normalise relations between Riyadh and Israel. Last month, Saudi Arabia signed a mutual defence pact with nuclear-armed Pakistan.


www.reuters.com

Saudi Arabia in talks with US for defence pact, FT reports

Saudi Arabia is discussing a defence deal with the United States which it hopes to seal when Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman visits the White House next month, the Financial Times reported on Friday, citing people familiar with the matter.
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This image sums up Pakistan's leadership after jailing Khan.

Apologies it's not clear but it's taken from a video. Shebaz looks like a little boy getting a hug from his mama.
 

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Restraint and dialogue

There goes the pact

On one hand you have bodies of soldiers being mutilated eyes being gauged out and their heads not given back and football being played with heads even hindu indians have never treated our soldiers bodies like this but given them full honour and salute.

And Saudis want restraint can't even condemn their neanderthal cousins .
 
Champ_Pal said:
Pakistan wants Saudi money.

Saudis want Pak Nukes just in case.

What shared economic vision does Pak and Saudis have?
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lol the pakbros only want money they can probably sell their family if given the choice as fr saudi defence this is a joke, they have'nt kept ttp/bla for past few years let alone a defence pact against sa
 
emranabbas said:
hold on I thought you were not interested in Pakistani politics, so why do you need to know? and why does he need to be there?
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Im a member on the thread. Whats wrong with me asking.

Then again, you've stated you have zero affiliation with politics in Pakistan also 🙄
 
DeadlyVenom said:

Turkiye wants in too. This is a hugely significant development.

Once again thanks to Modi, we have cooked many dishes from his tandoori operation.
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I can think of the following geopolitical benefits that Shri Modi has handed Pakistan on a platter:

1. Defence pact with KSA, likely to include other countries in the future suc as Turkey, BD, etc.
2. Accelerating defence exports to 10 billion.
3. Greater role in middle east, such as vis-a-vis Palestine
4. Better relations with the US
5. Acceleration of other weapons, such as J35.

I hope Indians vote Modi for another 5 years in 2029 or whenever their elections happen.
 
ahsan17 said:
I can think of the following geopolitical benefits that Shri Modi has handed Pakistan on a platter:

1. Defence pact with KSA, likely to include other countries in the future suc as Turkey, BD, etc.
2. Accelerating defence exports to 10 billion.
3. Greater role in middle east, such as vis-a-vis Palestine
4. Better relations with the US
5. Acceleration of other weapons, such as J35.

I hope Indians vote Modi for another 5 years in 2029 or whenever their elections happen.
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This is how you project strength.

Now we are one of tue leading weapons exports in Middle East and Africa… which is spreading our diplomacy as a rising middle power and so on the other hand enemy countries will fear us even more
 
Turkey in 'advanced talks' to join Saudi Arabia and Pakistan defence pact: Report

Turkey is lobbying to join a defence pact between Saudi Arabia and nuclear-armed Pakistan, a potential move that could create a new military bloc in the Middle East amid rising tensions in the Gulf and Iran.

Bloomberg reported on Friday that the talks between Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are at an “advanced stage and a deal is very likely”, citing people familiar with the matter.

In a sign that Islamabad is becoming more entwined with Ankara and Riyadh, Reuters reported on Friday that Pakistan is on the cusp of sealing a $1.5bn arms deal with Sudan’s army, which is backed by Saudi Arabia and Turkey, which are fighting against the UAE-backed Rapid Support Forces (RSF) paramilitary.

Pakistan is expected to sell Abdel Fattah al-Burhan's military 10 Karakorum-8 light-attack aircraft, more than 200 drones for scouting and kamikaze attacks, and advanced air-defence systems, Reuters reported.

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Aamir Masood, a retired Pakistani air marshal, told Reuters that the sale was a "done deal" and could also include JF-17 warplanes.

If Pakistan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia sign a trilateral defence pact, it would link three of the region’s largest countries, each with unique advantages.

Oil-rich Saudi Arabia is the Arab world’s only G-20 economy and home to Mecca and Medina, the two holiest cities in Islam.

Pakistan is the Muslim-world’s only nuclear-armed state.

Turkey, which straddles Asia and Europe, boosts Nato’s second-largest army.

Both Islamabad and Ankara are emerging as major weapons manufacturers and exporters.

Turkey has supplied drones to Ukraine to use against Russia. Turkey has emerged as the main military backer of Syria and also has troops stationed in Libya.

Cash-strapped Pakistan is trying to parlay its military know-how into economic gain. In December, it inked a $4bn deal to sell military equipment, including 16 JF-17 warplanes, to General Khalifa Haftar's Libyan National Army.



Reuters reported earlier this week that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are in negotiations to convert about $2bn in Saudi loans into a deal to buy the JF-17s, warplanes jointly produced by China and Pakistan.

Alliances in region

Pakistan is historically close to both Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Both the latter countries have not always seen eye-to-eye.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan backed popular protests following the Arab Spring that Riyadh saw as a threat to its monarchical system of governance.

A decade ago, Saudi Arabia and the UAE joined forces to battle Turkey in Libya. They also supported Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, a former general whom Erdogan once denounced.

But the region’s alliances have whipsawed. Erdogan and Sisi are moving closer amid joint concerns over Israel’s war on Gaza - recognised as a genocide by the United Nations, human rights groups and historians - and broader attacks on Lebanon, Syria and Iran.

Saudi Arabia and Turkey began patching up ties around 2021.

More recently, they have converged strategically in hot spots like Syria. Erdogan and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman both lobbied US President Donald Trump to remove sanctions on President Ahmed al-Sharaa’s government.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia are also backing the same side in Sudan’s civil war, which has pitched the Sudanese army against the paramilitary RSF backed by the UAE.

Saudi Arabia’s partnership with the UAE has unravelled in a significant way. Saudi Arabia launched strikes on the UAE’s ally in Yemen, the separatist Southern Transitional Council, and Riyadh’s proxies have evicted the STC and UAE from Yemen.

www.middleeasteye.net

Turkey in 'advanced talks' to join Saudi Arabia and Pakistan defence pact: Report

In a sign of converging interests with Ankara and Riyadh, Islamabad is on the cusp of a $1.5bn weapons sale to Sudanese army
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net
 
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