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Tim Southee is gearing up for the Black Caps' toughest challenge of the summer so far in the Boxing Day test against Pakistan, following New Zealand's first loss since March in the third Twenty20 on Tuesday.

After a dominant test series against the West Indies, the Black Caps pace bowler believes his side are in for a sterner test this week when they take on Pakistan.

"I think the Pakistan side is a quality side," he said about the upcoming test series. "They have an exciting bowling attack, they offer different challenges to what the West Indies did.

"They're obviously missing a couple of experienced guys through thumb injuries in that first test, but I'm sure it presents an opportunity for another couple of guys to step up.

"It's a new challenge. The West Indies are gone and a new challenge awaits with the Pakistan side."

Southee was the brightest spark in New Zealand's bowling attack in the four-wicket loss to Pakistan in the third and final T20, claiming two scalps for 25 runs.

But a lack of early wickets ended up costing the Black Caps as Mohammad Rizwan starred with a superb 89 to help Pakistan avoid being swept in the series.

"We thought we had enough," Southee said after the match. "It was a tough surface at times, just talking to the batsmen, so I think the way Devon [Conway] played at the end there gave us a real sniff.

"A bit of dew came in which probably sort of made the ball skid on a little better but I think Pakistan played exceptionally well, especially Rizwan."

Southee admitted that he and the rest of the bowling group weren't at their best.

"We were probably just a little bit off. We set very high standards as a bowling group and there were probably just a couple of big overs where if we could've minimised them a little bit then who knows with those wickets late in the piece.

"But we probably needed to take more wickets up front. We've seen in the series so far, if you do take those wickets, it makes it harder for them to get that back end, that death phase."

However, there will be little time to linger on the loss with the Black Caps quickly moving on to the test format in what is a busy summer period.

"It's been the story of the summer – it's chopping and changing reasonably quickly. No time to dwell. It's change of format, fresh personnel come in and join back up for test cricket for a big push to finish the year and start the next year in a good manner as well."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cr...o-far-tim-southee/35XCHCCKPWMQNVI6DBQAZFCB2I/
 
Tim Southee is gearing up for the Black Caps' toughest challenge of the summer so far in the Boxing Day test against Pakistan, following New Zealand's first loss since March in the third Twenty20 on Tuesday.

After a dominant test series against the West Indies, the Black Caps pace bowler believes his side are in for a sterner test this week when they take on Pakistan.

"I think the Pakistan side is a quality side," he said about the upcoming test series. "They have an exciting bowling attack, they offer different challenges to what the West Indies did.

"They're obviously missing a couple of experienced guys through thumb injuries in that first test, but I'm sure it presents an opportunity for another couple of guys to step up.

"It's a new challenge. The West Indies are gone and a new challenge awaits with the Pakistan side."

Southee was the brightest spark in New Zealand's bowling attack in the four-wicket loss to Pakistan in the third and final T20, claiming two scalps for 25 runs.

But a lack of early wickets ended up costing the Black Caps as Mohammad Rizwan starred with a superb 89 to help Pakistan avoid being swept in the series.

"We thought we had enough," Southee said after the match. "It was a tough surface at times, just talking to the batsmen, so I think the way Devon [Conway] played at the end there gave us a real sniff.

"A bit of dew came in which probably sort of made the ball skid on a little better but I think Pakistan played exceptionally well, especially Rizwan."

Southee admitted that he and the rest of the bowling group weren't at their best.

"We were probably just a little bit off. We set very high standards as a bowling group and there were probably just a couple of big overs where if we could've minimised them a little bit then who knows with those wickets late in the piece.

"But we probably needed to take more wickets up front. We've seen in the series so far, if you do take those wickets, it makes it harder for them to get that back end, that death phase."

However, there will be little time to linger on the loss with the Black Caps quickly moving on to the test format in what is a busy summer period.

"It's been the story of the summer – it's chopping and changing reasonably quickly. No time to dwell. It's change of format, fresh personnel come in and join back up for test cricket for a big push to finish the year and start the next year in a good manner as well."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cr...o-far-tim-southee/35XCHCCKPWMQNVI6DBQAZFCB2I/

If Pakistan truly want to challenge New Zealand in their own conditions, they must be able to read the pitch and play accordingly.

The first 15 overs are truly going to be challenging, which is why it will take a lot of patience and skill against the likes of Southee and Boult.

If we play with patience and a good understanding of the conditions, we can easily compete against New Zealand, and winning will depend on our bowling to say the least. If we cannot bowl New Zealand out, then we will probably have to chase a mountain of runs, which is why there should be some variation in the bowling as well.
 
I would be very happy if Pakistan takes the test matches to the back end of Day 4.

NZ are favourites but if Yasir Shah finds his line and length and bowls economical then you never know.
 
Rooting for Pakistan bcoz of obvious reasons but i know that without Babar pak will lose inside three days.
 
I would be very happy if Pakistan takes the test matches to the back end of Day 4.

NZ are favourites but if Yasir Shah finds his line and length and bowls economical then you never know.

If we can bat for 4 sessions up front, then we can at least increase the span of the game and develop a plan.

I don't even think that our management sets plans for specific players, something most oppositions do all the time. We didn't even bowl short to Chris Woakes, and if that's the preparation we go into the match with, then it might be a very tough series.
 
Rooting for Pakistan bcoz of obvious reasons but i know that without Babar pak will lose inside three days.

Depends on a lot of factors:

Conditions - If the conditions are flatter and less green, then we can likely bat for longer and post larger totals.

Lineup - If we play a balanced lineup with a depth of bowling and batting, we can compete against New Zealand.

Opening stand - If we get a solid start in our batting, then it sets the tempo for the coming batsmen.

Opening spell of Abbas - If Abbas can get Latham out early, we have a really good chance of prying open the middle order.

Middle Overs Bowling - Whoever our bowlers are for the middle overs will have to be consistent and have plans in place for specific batsmen. If Naseem plays, he should bowl short at the New Zealand batsmen who aren't very tall, and it could work.

Spinner - Whoever we go into the game with as our frontline spinner will have to be very economical, and prevent the batsmen from targetting their bowling.

Batting Lower-Down - If our tail along with the lower-middle order can put together runs, it would be very beneficial as well.
 
WI didn't offer any challenge to NZ, Pakistan(hopefully not) isn't going to present a challenge either.

If we can somehow somehow somehow manage to get NZ out for less than 100, we will have a chance.
 
Depends on a lot of factors:

Conditions - If the conditions are flatter and less green, then we can likely bat for longer and post larger totals. We don't want a bat off with NZ with our batting line up

Lineup - If we play a balanced lineup with a depth of bowling and batting, we can compete against New Zealand. Not sure what you mean by this

Opening stand - If we get a solid start in our batting, then it sets the tempo for the coming batsmen. Lol Abid Ali

Opening spell of Abbas - If Abbas can get Latham out early, we have a really good chance of prying open the middle order. Abbas will be key but he was figured out in England pretty easily by the end of the series

Middle Overs Bowling - Whoever our bowlers are for the middle overs will have to be consistent and have plans in place for specific batsmen. If Naseem plays, he should bowl short at the New Zealand batsmen who aren't very tall, and it could work. Maybe, this didn't work well in England though

Spinner - Whoever we go into the game with as our frontline spinner will have to be very economical, and prevent the batsmen from targetting their bowling. Yasir's track record down under speaks for itself and the pitches will not support him

Batting Lower-Down - If our tail along with the lower-middle order can put together runs, it would be very beneficial as well. We have the longest tail in international cricket

Overall, i give us about 7.5 days of test cricket over the series at most.
 
NZ may end up winning 2-0 but I expect Pakistan to do better than West Indies. Pakistan have much better batting than West Indies.
 
Overall, i give us about 7.5 days of test cricket over the series at most.

Most of what you mentioned was correct, but short-pitched deliveries are very effective, they just aren't bowled correctly. Naseem in England bowled short-pitched deliveries far outside the off stump or too far down the leg side, and it allowed him to get cut and pulled to the boundary.

As for Yasir, I didn't mean him as our frontline spinner, though he will probably get the nod ahead of Zafar Gohar.

Our tail might be long but they're improving, and it becomes stronger if we don't play Yasir and play Faheem and Gohar, who can at least score a handful of runs.

Abid Ali is a liability at the top of the order due to his impatient stroke-playing and weakness in edging deliveries that should be left alone.

By the lineup, I meant that if we go in with enough bowling variety and batting depth, we can at least compete with New Zealand in their conditons. West Indies went in with a very two-dimensional playing XI and didn't really have options to fall back on. We have some decent part-timers and a variety of bowling options if we play Naseem, Faheem, Shaheen, and Abbas.

I don't know if it's better to bowl first or bat first, and it may be the deciding factor.
 
Tim Southee (296 wickets) is four away from becoming just the third player to take 300 wickets for New Zealand in men’s Tests (Sir Richard Hadlee – 431 and Daniel Vettori – 361); Southee’s taken 26 wickets at 15.7 in 2020
 
Tim Southee became the third New Zealand bowler to 300 Test victims as the hosts moved into a dominant position against Pakistan on day four in Mount Maunganui on Tuesday, 29 December.
 
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