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Great news, happy for Waseem who deserves this. When as a proffesional boxer you work with an established company who have top class boxers with them, the improvement in your game will come a lot quicker. Although he's 31 I feel has a good few years left in his career and will get another shot at the title soon enough.
Hoping he fights in the UK where I'm sure he will get decent support.
good luck to him. Look forward to seeing him fight again.
Good luck and hopefully he can fulfill his dream one day.
Nice, mashaAllah. Happy for him.
Good luck dude
What did you make of the bout with Mithalane
we deserve losers if this is our attitude towards heroes.
Or the fact most Pakistanis don't follow boxing? I follow boxing, have done for 20 years but I just heard of this guy properly.
That is surprising considering he has been their best amateur this century, forced to turn pro after repeatedly being low balled by the sports body but still has a commonwealth medal to boast and turned pro taking on decent opposition from the word go; recently pushed future hall of hamer Mithalane all the way in his debut world title attempt, fell just short due to a bit of inexperience but it was very close. There has been decent media coverage in Pak but it seems to me more people over there have embraced Amir Khan who is essentially British, additionally in the 2010 commonwealth games Waseem was a favourite for the gold medal at Flyweight but was forced to chop of an arm and compete in a division below to make room for Haroon Khan (A british national) who would represent Pakistan as he was unable to get selected for Team GB. I doubt Waseem is expecting to be treated like royalty given all the experiences he has had up until now, but a little respect and recognition might be nice for him.
Am sure most will jump on the bandwagon when he wins the world title though, they might remember where he is from rather then get confused by Khan
Your average media coverage means nothing. Our hockey gets okay coverage and I doubt you can find 10 people who can name you half the squad. To a hardcore like you perhaps, but eg nowadays I don't have time to follow boxing like I did some years back and I don't know who this guy is besides a headline or two. So there is no way anyone back home will know it. I am not saying its right or wrong, just my view. People in Pakistan seem to enjoy this sense of entitlement. A while back 2 snooker players complained noone welcomed them, I mean how many people even watch snooker? Barely. Some play it casually that's it. We don't hear Western sports people whine about being welcomed. Now if he complains about sporting facilities, backing from boards fair enough.
People follow Khan as he's, well, a household name in England and he's been very visible in Pakistan whether its charity or just visits regardless of his seemingly failing boxing skills.
Western sports people also don't get treated like the way Waseem has though so why would they feel like they would even have any bad experiences to highlight, you have everything you need when it comes to progressing your amateur career and everything is provided when it comes to that Olympic ambition, there are not as many politics involved either and you can be rest assured that foreign talents are not going to be favoured over the national talent pool. If you've scratched and clawed in a place like that to get to where he has representing his country internationally, it is not entitlement to expect perhaps a little respect; are basic manners beyond everyone now, not many are aware of his story but will know who Hussain Shah is and he had a similar struggle, you'd have thought in the 21st century Waseem wouldn't have experienced a similar path
Oh absolutely. My point was in the Western culture there is knowledge, access, media highlight. Even some crap such as badminton will get BBC headline on their webpage.
The other thread, state controlled sports broadcasting, is one of the reasons noone cares in Pakistan. Its sad but its true. If more people knew they'd go greet him. But people simply don't care aside from cricket. Even sports like Hockey are all but finishing in terms of awareness.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">COAS met boxer Muhammad Waseem at his office. Congratulated him for the recent achievement bringing honour for the country. “Talent like you is our pride, we are here to support youngsters like you having potential and positive energy”, COAS. <a href="https://t.co/2sweNyY1AH">pic.twitter.com/2sweNyY1AH</a></p>— DG ISPR (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1174235213511180289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I wonder if the COAS of any other army in the world takes pictures with sports people in this manner.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Waseem is fighting soon(tonight) in Dubai against Sunny Edwards for the IBF flyweight title.
Live on Eurosport
Best of luck to him!
Thanks for posting this. Watched the last round. Shame it was one sided.
Thanks for posting this. Watched the last round. Shame it was one sided.
Pakistan will get another shot at crowning their first world champion. Waseem will get another crack against IBF champ Sunny Edwards on a Dubai card in March.
Waseem is a world class fighter, but I fear given his late start and lack of support early on could affect him because I’ve not seen him adapt stylistically or defensively as a fighter. He has a settled home now at MTK and a good team, but issue for him is he has a tendency to enjoy tear ups in the pocket when he had good foot movement as an amateur, his best work should start at mid-range and use his jab to get on the inside and use good evasive skills on the way out.
Sunny Edwards is very sound technically, a lot fresher and has excellent lateral foot movement and very good upper body movement to, a great jab and puts his combinations nicely together. He does tend to have a lowered guard, and can drop his hands a bit further when he moves out of range and Waseem can try to take advantage of that.
Key for Edwards will be to box on the back foot use good movement and try to hold if Waseem gets on the inside / then move out with a 1/2, it could in theory be a compatible win providing he maintains focus and makes best use of his natural ability / not drop his hands overly as he moves out.
Waseem is older and there’s some millage on the clock, he hasn’t been able to make the defensive changes which I’d like to see and he only knows how to fight one way in the pros, toe to toe / applying pressure. I think applying pressure to a boxer is the right thing to do, but Waseem will need to feint more to cut Edwards off, make him feel like he doesn’t have much room to move and use his shear will and determination to give it everything but box smart off the jab to get inside, he may have small windows of opportunity to work on the inside and the ref will play a part, but he will need to use his physical strength as well in those clinches. It may not be the perfect game plan but that’s just how he fights but if he is able to cut the ring of successfully and show some urgency with his feet, he can cause Edwards some serious issues.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Waseem is fighting soon(tonight) in Dubai against Sunny Edwards for the IBF flyweight title.
Live on Eurosport
Best of luck to him!