Pakistanis and their issues with India's financial stake in cricket

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistanis seem to increasingly dislike the financial investments of Indians in world cricket.

Whether its the ICC broadcast deal or Indian ownership of franchisee leagues, pakistanis seem to have issues with it and have a negative attitude towards it.

Pakistanis seem to dislike the fact that Indians via their financial strength control a large part of the Cricket ecosystem. Ofcourse India being a hated rival and the overall Indo Pakistan dynamic has a big role to play in this.

But what stops pakistan from owning a part of the world Cricket ecosystem? Pakistanis have been very reluctant to invest big money in cricket. Even PSL salary caps are lagging behind SA20 and ILT20.

One would think that the British pakistani community or pakistani expat community would show interest in major foreign franchisee leagues. But no. Except the odd bid in the now defunct GLT20 of SA, Pakistanis have been conspicuous by their absence.

Even the Hundred league saw no bids by any pakistani or Pakistani led consortium.

All this while Indians have been investing hundreds of millions in global Cricket ecosystem. And this seems to have caused Pakistanis significant heart burn.

Pakistanis won't invest and has problems with ones investing. That's not how the world runs.

 

[Snowflake]

Pakistanis don’t like Indians…and for good reason.

They’ll dislike anything that has Indian involvement. Simple.

What they do or do not do is a separate matter.

 

[emranabbas]

Have you come to complain?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistanis love Bharat and have supported IPL, Bollywood over the years despite the fact that people of Bharat didn’t reciprocate with same interest in their cinema or cricket as much. I will never let few no name haters on internet forums dictate my understanding of life. I believe majority of Pakistanis have a soft corner for Bharat being the home of their ancestors and although many people don’t admit openly most Pakistanis still believe in the concept of Mahabharat and truly consider it the Motherland. As I have predicted many times, within the next 100 years it’s highly likely that our nations will reunite because 1947 was a blunder.

 

[Local.Dada]

Jealousy, whining, cribbing, hating, being delusional, not accepting reality is human trait so I can understand Pakistanis nitpicking on everything BCCI.

I blame the Indian fans (including myself) to get triggered on the most dumb and ridiculous comments and indulging in debates where most times the arguments are the same and go no where.

Helps me kill time during non-productive hours, all those Indian topics probably generate web hits and revenue, everyone is entertained. Win win for all.That’s all there is to it.

Anyone with iota of a brain knows the facts who runs cricket and who brings in the moolah for everyone (Pak cricket included)

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So Indian fans have every right to feel sad about Pakistan hosting an ICC tournament where Pakistan is even inviting India to witness their hospitality but Pakistani fans aren’t allowed to dislike the 'spoilt brat' of cricket and a board that uses its power and money to sideline Pakistan?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Pakistanis have no issues with Indians investing.

But if Indians are using their investments to make attacks on Pakistanis and Pakistani interests we will of course discuss it.

Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

You are proud of your money. Go and invest it happily, we will smile and be happy for you. But when you weaponise it well we will discuss it and point out the belly dancing of Indians as they flip flop around and give excuses

I personally don't care enough about India and their investments to go out and find Indians to engage with and debate with them. But if you guys are here spouting crap then expect a response.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jealousy, whining, cribbing, hating, being delusional, not accepting reality is human trait so I can understand Pakistanis nitpicking on everything BCCI.

I blame the Indian fans (including myself) to get triggered on the most dumb and ridiculous comments and indulging in debates where most times the arguments are the same and go no where.

Helps me kill time during non-productive hours, all those Indian topics probably generate web hits and revenue, everyone is entertained. Win win for all.That’s all there is to it.

Anyone with iota of a brain knows the facts who runs cricket and who brings in the moolah for everyone (Pak cricket included)

Exactly. It works both ways, so don’t act like it's one sided. Some of my fellow Indian fans weren't too thrilled about Pakistan hosting an ICC tournament either.

 

[Local.Dada]

Exactly. It works both ways, so don’t act like it's one sided. Some of my fellow Indian fans weren't too thrilled about Pakistan hosting an ICC tournament either.

I already admitted I was super jealous of state of the art stadiums in Pakistan:

One more admission: you irritate me so don’t reply unless you have a proper point or argument to make. If it makes you feel you won, it’s ok, you win.Thank you.

 

[Rajdeep]

So Indian fans have every right to feel sad about Pakistan hosting an ICC tournament where Pakistan is even inviting India to witness their hospitality but Pakistani fans aren’t allowed to dislike the 'spoilt brat' of cricket and a board that uses its power and money to sideline Pakistan?

He won't reply to you but I can do the honors as always.

1. No Indian fans have no right to feel sad about Pakistan hosting CT. They were allocated the event by ICC and have all the right to host it. If someone have said anything, that is in his individual capacity and does not represent all Indian fans.

2. It is not Pakistan that is not inviting India LOL but other way around where Indian team is not going there due to security concerns. I think PCB should not have accepted the hybrid model and hosted the tournament entirely in Pakistan without India. Joshila bhai also have said this multiple times. Not many in India would have cared if Indian team sat out of one ICC event and in that way you will not be stressing about 23rd Feb every day.

 

[Itachi]

Pakistanis seem to increasingly dislike the financial investments of Indians in world cricket.

Rightly so. Because everyone knows that actual power lies in whoever is investing. it's them who will ultimately dictate the term and not some arbitrary "controlling" body who is there just for the name. This is the Absolute unit of power which everyone fears. And since Indians are slowly engulfing this sector, it is natural that pakistanis will not just hate but will fear it in true sense.

There is no solution though. The ship has sailed long ago when pakistan HAD the opportunity to come in to good terms.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pakistanis have no issues with Indians investing.

But if Indians are using their investments to make attacks on Pakistanis and Pakistani interests we will of course discuss it.

Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

You are proud of your money. Go and invest it happily, we will smile and be happy for you. But when you weaponise it well we will discuss it and point out the belly dancing of Indians as they flip flop around and give excuses.

Exactly this. Look at this joshila guy, he keeps bragging about BCCI’s money and questioning others aukaat like he is a joint account holder in their current account. Just two days ago, he was asking @Major about his aukaat. I have never seen anyone so happy and excited about someone else's money. If he went to Jay Shah with an empty bowl, he would be lucky to get more than 2 rupees. You don't know how rich the person behind the computer screen is. So it is laughable to talk about someone else's aukaat online.

 

[Savak]

Indians can flaunt and spend their money however they like anywhere in the world. Please just don't discriminate and give the apartheid treatment to Pakistani Cricketers.

 

[Itachi]

But what stops pakistan from owning a part of the world Cricket ecosystem? Pakistanis have been very reluctant to invest big money in cricket. Even PSL salary caps are lagging behind SA20 and ILT20.

One would think that the British pakistani community or pakistani expat community would show interest in major foreign franchisee leagues. But no. Except the odd bid in the now defunct GLT20 of SA, Pakistanis have been conspicuous by their absence.

Even the Hundred league saw no bids by any pakistani or Pakistani led consortium.

This part is something that pak ppers are avoiding.

Indians are successful in spreading its tentacles because YOU (pakistanis including british ones) failed to bring anything on the table.

YOU (Pakistanis including expats) have failed in uniting yourselves to stand against the evil corporates of India and greed that is BCCI.

it is YOU (Pakistanis including expats) who have failed yourselves.

But hey, let's not face the reality but hide behind excuses to cover own failures.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He won't reply to you but I can do the honors as always.

1. No Indian fans have no right to feel sad about Pakistan hosting CT. They were allocated the event by ICC and have all the right to host it. If someone have said anything, that is in his individual capacity and does not represent all Indian fans.

2. It is not Pakistan that is not inviting India LOL but other way around where Indian team is not going there due to security concerns. I think PCB should not have accepted the hybrid model and hosted the tournament entirely in Pakistan without India. Joshila bhai also have said this multiple times. Not many in India would have cared if Indian team sat out of one ICC event and in that way you will not be stressing about 23rd Feb every day.

So some fans conveniently decide when they represent all Indian fans and when they don’t. And you, of all people should be the last one talking about generalization. That was a lame reply by you. You should have let the other guy reply instead.

 

[Rajdeep]

Indians can flaunt and spend their money however they like anywhere in the world. Please just don't discriminate and give the apartheid treatment to Pakistani Cricketers.

ECB pulling out its cricketers from PSL. Is that England giving apartheid treatment to Pak cricket as well?

Every board in looking for their benefit. PCB should do as well rather than expecting friendship and bhai chaara from fellow boards.

 

[Itachi]

Indians can flaunt and spend their money however they like anywhere in the world. Please just don't discriminate and give the apartheid treatment to Pakistani Cricketers.

You can request the rest to not to discriminate OR YOU can make yourself a brand that can exist on its own and influence enough that others want to be with you.

The first one always loses because it shows your weakness and incompetence.

Pakistan, with all its crazy fans and rich corporates, should have had way more bigger (in terms of finance) PSL than what is going on.

 

[Rajdeep]

So some fans conveniently decide when they represent all Indian fans and when they don’t. And you, of all people should be the last one talking about generalization. That was a lame reply by you. You should have let the other guy reply instead.

Which fan is upset about Pakistan hosting Champions Trophy. Please show us the proof as I don't remember. Indian fans here were adamant of Indian team not going to Pakistan at any cost. That is not to say they had any issues with Pakistan hosting the tournament itself. Also, some have asked question about state of Pak cricket stadiums after it was reported by likes of Rashid Latif and Ahmed Sehzad in their youtube channels.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I already admitted I was super jealous of state of the art stadiums in Pakistan:

One more admission: you irritate me so don’t reply unless you have a proper point or argument to make. If it makes you feel you won, it’s ok, you win.Thank you.

Aww, you are in a forum. If you don't want people quoting you, maybe don't post here. And no, I wasn't talking about Pakistan's state of the art stadiums, but about Indian fans getting upset over Pakistan hosting the Champions Trophy. Hosting is the keyword here.

And no need to explain. I can already see the jealousy in your words.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This part is something that pak ppers are avoiding.

Indians are successful in spreading its tentacles because YOU (pakistanis including british ones) failed to bring anything on the table.

YOU (Pakistanis including expats) have failed in uniting yourselves to stand against the evil corporates of India and greed that is BCCI.

it is YOU (Pakistanis including expats) who have failed yourselves.

But hey, let's not face the reality but hide behind excuses to cover own failures.

I have seen you criticise Indian selectors in the past.

Now I understand you shouldn't have made criticisms of their selections. You should have worked hard became a cricketer, retired, became a BCCI employee and then selector. Otherwise you cannot have an opinion. Nothing has stopped you from becoming an Indian selector.

When you criticise the selectors YOU have actually failed brother. Please acknowledge this going forward and stop blaming selectors for your own failures.

 

[Devadwal]

So some fans conveniently decide when they represent all Indian fans and when they don’t. And you, of all people should be the last one talking about generalization. That was a lame reply by you. You should have let the other guy reply instead.

What is Today ? Yes we have been seen pakistan hospitality from last 75+ years .

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Which fan is upset about Pakistan hosting Champions Trophy. Please show us the proof as I don't remember. Indian fans here were adamant of Indian team not going to Pakistan at any cost. That is not to say they had any issues with Pakistan hosting the tournament itself. Also, some have asked question about state of Pak cricket stadiums after it was reported by likes of Rashid Latif and Ahmed Sehzad in their youtube channels.

There are multiple threads here regarding Champions Trophy. Did you not participate in any of them? Why don't you just go through them one by one?

 

[Snowflake]

Indians can flaunt and spend their money however they like anywhere in the world. Please just don't discriminate and give the apartheid treatment to Pakistani Cricketers.

Who cares what they do? Why so desperate?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What is Today ? Yes we have been seen pakistan hospitality from last 75+ years .

What is today? Today is 14th February 2025, Friday.

 

[Rajdeep]

There are multiple threads here regarding Champions Trophy. Did you not participate in any of them? Why don't you just go through them one by one?

Brother multiple threads regarding Champions Trophy is not same as Indian fans not happy with Pakistan hosting Champions Trophy na? I am asking to you to give us a proof as I read most threads here. However looks like you are not able to back that statement now with evidence.

 

[Savak]

Pakistanis seem to increasingly dislike the financial investments of Indians in world cricket.

Whether its the ICC broadcast deal or Indian ownership of franchisee leagues, pakistanis seem to have issues with it and have a negative attitude towards it.

Pakistanis seem to dislike the fact that Indians via their financial strength control a large part of the Cricket ecosystem. Ofcourse India being a hated rival and the overall Indo Pakistan dynamic has a big role to play in this.

But what stops pakistan from owning a part of the world Cricket ecosystem? Pakistanis have been very reluctant to invest big money in cricket. Even PSL salary caps are lagging behind SA20 and ILT20.

One would think that the British pakistani community or pakistani expat community would show interest in major foreign franchisee leagues. But no. Except the odd bid in the now defunct GLT20 of SA, Pakistanis have been conspicuous by their absence.

Even the Hundred league saw no bids by any pakistani or Pakistani led consortium.

All this while Indians have been investing hundreds of millions in global Cricket ecosystem. And this seems to have caused Pakistanis significant heart burn.

Pakistanis won't invest and has problems with ones investing. That's not how the world runs.

There is a big difference b/w Indian and Pakistani Wallets. India is the 5th largest economy in the world right now and is project to be the third largest economy behind USA, China. Pakistan on the other hand is dependent on IMF bail outs.

 

[Devadwal]

What is today? Today is 14th February 2025, Friday.

Yes i expected same reply from you. Pakistan prem main kha yad rehta hai itna . NVM

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Brother multiple threads regarding Champions Trophy is not same as Indian fans not happy with Pakistan hosting Champions Trophy na? I am asking to you to give us a proof as I read most threads here. However looks like you are not able to back that statement now with evidence.

Lol at evidence. I asked you to go through those threads, read the posts, and see the burn for yourself. I am not your servant. Remember when you said I support Pakistani team over Indian team and I asked you to post sources in the other thread, and you told me to find them myself? Remember when you lied that I ran away after India won against Pakistan and I proved you wrong by showing my posts? Now it's your turn to do the hard work. You lie and run away always.

Still, to make it easier for you, check the posts by @Rajdeep, @Devadwal, @cricketjoshila, and @Mesozoic in those threads. I have given you enough hints. Next time, when I ask for sources, I expect the same effort from you.

 

[Rajdeep]

Lol at evidence. I asked you to go through those threads, read the posts, and see the burn for yourself. I am not your servant. Remember when you said I support Pakistani team over Indian team and I asked you to post sources in the other thread, and you told me to find them myself? Remember when you lied that I ran away after India won against Pakistan and I proved you wrong by showing my posts? Now it's your turn to do the hard work. You lie and run away always.

Still, to make it easier for you, check the posts by @Rajdeep, @Devadwal, @cricketjoshila, and @Mesozoic in those threads. I have given you enough hints. Next time, when I ask for sources, I expect the same effort from you.

I have read all their posts and they didnt wanted Indian team to travel to Pakistan. Also, some of them complained about the state of stadiums in Pakistan after likes of Rashid Latif posted in social media. None of those has any co relation to them being unhappy with Pakistan hosting CT. If anything likes of Joshila have always said Pakistan should host the entire CT by itself without India.

No one is anyones servant here but when you make blanket statements back it up with proofs. You cant then go and find yourself in the forum.

Also, not sure when have I ever ran away from you but if saying this makes you believe you are strong...so be it. Yes I ran away from our Indian darra hua mussalman brother from Nai Dilli.

 

[captain.hansolo]

There is a big difference b/w Indian and Pakistani Wallets. India is the 5th largest economy in the world right now and is project to be the third largest economy behind USA, China. Pakistan on the other hand is dependent on IMF bail outs.

thats not quite what this is about. i think there is the element that india is flexing its new found economic strength in a rather bombastic, and exhibitionist manner. this does not endear it with its neighbors who have not had as much economic success and have traditionally had a rivalry with india; a rivalry where they were the dominant sporting team but that dominance has faded precipitously, coinciding with india's economic growth. thus, the economic muscle that india is flexing is fast becoming a proxy for the misgivings about the turn in fortune in the sport rivalry.

if india had been more magnanimous in its dominance over the global cricket revenue, if india had not excluded pakistani players from the IPL, or if pakistan had continued to enjoy a dominance on the cricket field, the reaction to india's economic dominance of cricket would have been very different.

if pakistan is at best agnostic, at worst envious, of india's growing control over the cricket sport, then it is not entirely a case of sour grapes or neighbor's envy. india has hardly been a model leader.

and needless to say, this has coincided with growing sectarianism and tribalism in india.

 

[Mesozoic]

I have read all their posts and they didnt wanted Indian team to travel to Pakistan. Also, some of them complained about the state of stadiums in Pakistan after likes of Rashid Latif posted in social media. None of those has any co relation to them being unhappy with Pakistan hosting CT. If anything likes of Joshila have always said Pakistan should host the entire CT by itself without India.

No one is anyones servant here but when you make blanket statements back it up with proofs. You cant then go and find yourself in the forum.

Also, not sure when have I ever ran away from you but if saying this makes you believe you are strong...so be it. Yes I ran away from our Indian darra hua mussalman brother from Nai Dilli.

That guy is creating his own happiness. Leave him alone.

They see the hosting rights for the CT as some sort of a "Win" over big evil India when it was just ICC being just and allotting an event for one of it's member boards that has not hosted an ICC event for almost 3 decades. Had BCCI given a toss about that , the situation would have been very different.

And this is the same guy that gets hurt and triggered whenever I point out their "Choti Choti Khushiyaan".

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I have read all their posts and they didnt wanted Indian team to travel to Pakistan. Also, some of them complained about the state of stadiums in Pakistan after likes of Rashid Latif posted in social media. None of those has any co relation to them being unhappy with Pakistan hosting CT. If anything likes of Joshila have always said Pakistan should host the entire CT by itself without India.

No one is anyones servant here but when you make blanket statements back it up with proofs. You cant then go and find yourself in the forum.

Also, not sure when have I ever ran away from you but if saying this makes you believe you are strong...so be it. Yes I ran away from our Indian darra hua mussalman brother from Nai Dilli.

Remember this next time when you lie about me then. Maybe bookmark this thread so that you don't have to ask me to find it for you.

Also you were asking about names and I gave you that. You know about the Champions Trophy threads right? Read their posts. Same way ask the OP to post stuff where Pakistanis are feeling jealous and unhappy with Indian power, money, etc. It can't be one-sided, after all we are arch rivals.

 

[Savak]

thats not quite what this is about. i think there is the element that india is flexing its new found economic strength in a rather bombastic, and exhibitionist manner. this does not endear it with its neighbors who have not had as much economic success and have traditionally had a rivalry with india; a rivalry where they were the dominant sporting team but that dominance has faded precipitously, coinciding with india's economic growth. thus, the economic muscle that india is flexing is fast becoming a proxy for the misgivings about the turn in fortune in the sport rivalry.

if india had been more magnanimous in its dominance over the global cricket revenue, if india had not excluded pakistani players from the IPL, or if pakistan had continued to enjoy a dominance on the cricket field, the reaction to india's economic dominance of cricket would have been very different.

if pakistan is at best agnostic, at worst envious, of india's growing control over the cricket sport, then it is not entirely a case of sour grapes or neighbor's envy. india has hardly been a model leader.

and needless to say, this has coincided with growing sectarianism and tribalism in india.

Let's be honest, Pakistan would be doing the same thing to India if the roles were reversed. Nothing stopped Pakistan from doing the right things or taking the right steps to uplift their economy and standard of living. It is an alarming fact that Bangladesh was behind and on par with Pakistan in 2008 and now they have a larger economy. Heck a war ravaged Afghanistan is doing better economically vs Pakistan.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That guy is creating his own happiness. Leave him alone.

They see the hosting rights for the CT as some sort of a "Win" over big evil India when it was just ICC being just and allotting an event for one of it's member boards that has not hosted an ICC event for almost 3 decades. Had BCCI given a toss about that , the situation would have been very different.

And this is the same guy that gets hurt and triggered whenever I point out their "Choti Choti Khushiyaan".

Here comes the 'choti choti khushiyan' fame guy.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistanis don’t like Indians…and for good reason.

They’ll dislike anything that has Indian involvement. Simple.

What they do or do not do is a separate matter.

That's true and a very simple reason. Its expected.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistanis have no issues with Indians investing.

But if Indians are using their investments to make attacks on Pakistanis and Pakistani interests we will of course discuss it.

Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

You are proud of your money. Go and invest it happily, we will smile and be happy for you. But when you weaponise it well we will discuss it and point out the belly dancing of Indians as they flip flop around and give excuses

I personally don't care enough about India and their investments to go out and find Indians to engage with and debate with them. But if you guys are here spouting crap then expect a response.

@Snowflake was very truthful. Pakistanis don't like Indians and vice versa.

That's the reason to not like Indian investment and that's the reason Indians stay away from pakistanis.

Is that not true?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indians can flaunt and spend their money however they like anywhere in the world. Please just don't discriminate and give the apartheid treatment to Pakistani Cricketers.

Honestly answer a question, what would Pakistanis do if they were in the same position?

 

[cricketjoshila]

This part is something that pak ppers are avoiding.

Indians are successful in spreading its tentacles because YOU (pakistanis including british ones) failed to bring anything on the table.

YOU (Pakistanis including expats) have failed in uniting yourselves to stand against the evil corporates of India and greed that is BCCI.

it is YOU (Pakistanis including expats) who have failed yourselves.

But hey, let's not face the reality but hide behind excuses to cover own failures.

TBH i am surprised at this. Not one pakistani expat, individual or as a consortium turned up for these franchisees.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@Snowflake was very truthful. Pakistanis don't like Indians and vice versa.

That's the reason to not like Indian investment and that's the reason Indians stay away from pakistanis.

Is that not true?

I dont like kuttar indians like you in all honesty.

But in real life I think I could enjoy the company of people like @Rajdeep @JaDed @Bhaijaan these type of guys. I see no reason to keep away from Indians in general and disagree with @Snowflake here.

I actually enjoy seeing the progress you guys have made in tech, or with your education or city infrastructure. There is much to be respected or admired. I dislike the IPL the same as I initially dislike PSL or 100 because it ruins international cricket.

My issue is only the weaponisation of cricket. We will, of course, object when we are deliberately targeted in this way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I dont like kuttar indians like you in all honesty.

But in real life I think I could enjoy the company of people like @Rajdeep @JaDed @Bhaijaan these type of guys. I see no reason to keep away from Indians in general and disagree with @Snowflake here.

I actually enjoy seeing the progress you guys have made in tech, or with your education or city infrastructure. There is much to be respected or admired. I dislike the IPL the same as I initially dislike PSL or 100 because it ruins international cricket.

My issue is only the weaponisation of cricket. We will, of course, object when we are deliberately targeted in this way.

Thanks for an honest answer.

What do you think pakistanis would have done if in the same position as Indians?

Do you not find it shocking that pakistani business tycoons have shown little interest in these kind of investment?

 

[Bhaijaan]

I dont like kuttar indians like you in all honesty.

But in real life I think I could enjoy the company of people like @Rajdeep @JaDed @Bhaijaan these type of guys. I see no reason to keep away from Indians in general and disagree with @Snowflake here.

I actually enjoy seeing the progress you guys have made in tech, or with your education or city infrastructure. There is much to be respected or admired. I dislike the IPL the same as I initially dislike PSL or 100 because it ruins international cricket.

My issue is only the weaponisation of cricket. We will, of course, object when we are deliberately targeted in this way.

@cricketjoshila is a nice chap too. Maybe he’s from army background.

I dont like kuttar indians like you in all honesty.

But in real life I think I could enjoy the company of people like @Rajdeep @JaDed @Bhaijaan these type of guys. I see no reason to keep away from Indians in general and disagree with @Snowflake here.

I actually enjoy seeing the progress you guys have made in tech, or with your education or city infrastructure. There is much to be respected or admired. I dislike the IPL the same as I initially dislike PSL or 100 because it ruins international cricket.

My issue is only the weaponisation of cricket. We will, of course, object when we are deliberately targeted in this way.

Thanks for your friendship brother. Likewise.

Actually my favorite Pakistanis here are the ones who often gave me toughest time in debate like brother @KingKhanWC , @the Great Khan etc. I always welcome difference of opinion.

Like i keep saying 100 years from now, we are going to reunite anyway and this phase will be taught in future history books of our reunified nation as the era of the great pain and divide.

 

[zn426]

India has the right to invest whatever they want. Indians have the right to invest whatever they want. I don't care. Perhaps next we'll see American sports owners (like the Glazers have been doing with the ILT) start muscling in on India's turf looking for franchise cricket money. That war will be interesting to say the least.

Some have argued here that Pakistan is a poor country and unable to keep up. Pakistan is not a poor country. The government is poor because no one pays taxes, politicians regularly loot aid loans to fill their own wallets, and none of the money actually goes for what it's meant to go for. Add in the historical security issues with the Afghan war and the permanent armed-stand off in Kashmir and Pakistan being a client state of the US, Gulf kingdoms, and China, and you basically have a recipe where one group-the military-is constantly destroying investor confidence by putting their quislings back in charge. Imran rebuilt confidence in Pakistani banking and investments-capital flowed into Pakistan. Now the current administration cratered all of Imran's confidence building reforms for political gains.
As the old saying goes-you can pick guns or butter, but you can't have both. Pakistan has always picked guns over butter. It's understandable, but you need to grow the butter money to pay for guns. It won't happen if people aren't paying taxes, government officials are looting aid loans, and the country is constantly shuffling around looking for money to keep the party going. Long story short-the Pakistani government needs to learn how to make it easier for Pakistani businesses-and Pakistani businesses need to get much more serious about making money from overseas-and keeping it in Pakistan.

This goes into the PSL too. None of the franchise owners appear to have shown much professionalism. We understand that things had to be built up over time to grow confidence that the PSL could be held in Pakistan in full. Now it is. But the franchise owners want all the revenue without having to pay for the costs aside from player salaries. Where's the creativity in growing revenue? Get more advertising? Gate revenue?

If I were leading PCB today I'd be requiring anyone working in a management role to go get a sports MBA from the USA. We have the largest sporting environment here on earth. It's far and away the best environment to learn how to run truly professional sporting operations. Pakistan needs to go gain way more institutional knowledge about sports business and come in and apply it. Soccer, football, ice hockey, American football have all been successfully commercialized-it's time for cricket to do the same.

Has Pakistan failed the business of cricket? Yes and no. It was a huge win to get the Champions Trophy to Pakistan. It was a huge win to rebuild international cricket hosting in Pakistan. But now that Pakistan is finally there-it's time for the PCB and Pakistan as a whole to improve massively on strategic thinking. Period.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There is a big difference b/w Indian and Pakistani Wallets. India is the 5th largest economy in the world right now and is project to be the third largest economy behind USA, China. Pakistan on the other hand is dependent on IMF bail outs.

5 or 6 Indian Americans from silicon valley got together to buy the Hundred franchisee at Lords.

There are owners of Ary or Jang or the Saigols and Mansha group who if not individually but as a consortium could come to the table.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Which fan is upset about Pakistan hosting Champions Trophy. Please show us the proof as I don't remember. Indian fans here were adamant of Indian team not going to Pakistan at any cost. That is not to say they had any issues with Pakistan hosting the tournament itself. Also, some have asked question about state of Pak cricket stadiums after it was reported by likes of Rashid Latif and Ahmed Sehzad in their youtube channels.

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll? He is not a genuine poster, let him crib, that's how you kill the troll.

 

[gazza619]

Stop terrorism, discrimination and bullying and Pakistanis wont dislike you.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll? He is not a genuine poster, let him crib, that's how you kill the troll.

You have been saying this for the past 8 years or so. Ya toh kuch naya leke aa or prove me wrong. It's getting boring now.

 

[Slim]

Pakistanis want nothing to do with India. If possible we would like to avoid you guys in anyway possible.

But you are the same people who are under severe pain since Pakistan has been allotted the Champions Trophy.

A nation of more than 1 billion is in constant state of despair from spreading fake news, barking non stop about stadiums which you are not even supposed to play in, to calling the tournament insignificant to what not. You have tried each and every way possible from your governmental level to a common man level to sabotage and ruin the tournament.

Your level of obsession to Pakistan is endless, your life’s happiness is Pakistan’s downfall and yet you have the audacity to do rhona dhona over us calling you out for your BS?

You weaponise your so called money acting like a dehati aurat. Its not even your money, its money of the 1% of India while 99% is poor and living in subhuman conditions. It sounds ridiculous to see a common Indian chestbeat over Ambani’s money who doesnt see your life worth more than a dog.

 

[emranabbas]

That's true and a very simple reason. Its expected.

That's not true, I’ve never had any issues with Indians and have always treated them like any other person. The ones I’ve met have been decent too. However, seeing constant hate towards Pakistan from Indians on this forum and across social media makes me question whether the Indians I’ve met were genuine or if they secretly hold the same views. Ultimately, you receive the hate you put out.

 

[Slim]

Indians like @Rajdeep are shameless. After doing non stop bakwas and propoganda against Champions Trophy, hes acting like Indians did nothing or never spoke against Pakistan’s hosting of the CT. Pakpassion is just one website, Indians on each and every platform were constantly crying and till date are crying over Pakistan’s hosting of Champions Trophy. The whole nation seems sick. I saw how jubilant they were when their fake news peddlers told them the tournament will shift to South Africa, to India, to Dubai and to Mars.

They were so delighted to see BCCI showing PCB their “aukat”.

For people who have low self worth, they find happiness in bullying a country 10 times smaller than them and even in that they actually failed.

After BCCI and PCB settled on neutral venue for ICC tournaments. They started claiming that oh we will see when the tournaments happen in India and that BCCI will back out of the agreement. Showing that how as a nation they have a low trust, conniving, treacherous nature.

I want nothing to do with India or Indians. World would be a better place with less Indians. No one likes them. They dont even actually like their own country. West treats them as parasites and they are a headache for the whole world.

I know there are many good indians, but people like OP and his ilk disgust me. And i dont care, i would say it how it is!

 

[Rajdeep]

Indians like @Rajdeep are shameless. After doing non stop bakwas and propoganda against Champions Trophy, hes acting like Indians did nothing or never spoke against Pakistan’s hosting of the CT. Pakpassion is just one website, Indians on each and every platform were constantly crying and till date are crying over Pakistan’s hosting of Champions Trophy. The whole nation seems sick. I saw how jubilant they were when their fake news peddlers told them the tournament will shift to South Africa, to India, to Dubai and to Mars.

They were so delighted to see BCCI showing PCB their “aukat”.

For people who have low self worth, they find happiness in bullying a country 10 times smaller than them and even in that they actually failed.

After BCCI and PCB settled on neutral venue for ICC tournaments. They started claiming that oh we will see when the tournaments happen in India and that BCCI will back out of the agreement. Showing that how as a nation they have a low trust, conniving, treacherous nature.

I want nothing to do with India or Indians. World would be a better place with less Indians. No one likes them. They dont even actually like their own country. West treats them as parasites and they are a headache for the whole world.

I know there are many good indians, but people like OP and his ilk disgust me. And i dont care, i would say it how it is!

I am not shameless but you are clueless. If anything, I actually wanted Indian team to travel Pakiatan for Champions Trophy. I have also called BCCI as hypocrites for picking and choosing when to play them. So you have no idea what are you talking about. Also, if my memory serves correctly no Indian poster ever had any issue with Pakistan hosting Champions trophy. Likes of Joshila, Devadwal and Mesozoic were against Indian team travelling to Pakistan. That is different from not wanting CT being played in Pakistan. If anything many wanted Pakistan to host the entire tournament in Pakistan even if it means Indian team not participating. Show me one post where any Indian poster have ever cribbed about Pakistan getting to host CT. The same question I asked BVB as well but he wrote everthing except showing me the proofs.

And I am only talking about discussions in this forum. What is happening outside in wider social media, I am not sure. However you should know how social media works and would be naive to think the hatred comes only from one side and Pakistanis are innocent listeners.

Looks like losing against NZ at home after hyping your team so much is taking a toll on you and you are taking your frustrations on me. Maine kya kia bhai? LOL. Apne team ko khelna sikhao pehle.

 

[Slim]

@cricketjoshila is a nice chap too. Maybe he’s from army background.


Thanks for your friendship brother. Likewise.

Actually my favorite Pakistanis here are the ones who often gave me toughest time in debate like brother @KingKhanWC , @the Great Khan etc. I always welcome difference of opinion.

Like i keep saying 100 years from now, we are going to reunite anyway and this phase will be taught in future history books of our reunified nation as the era of the great pain and divide.

No Pakistani wants to unite with India. We are a different nation. We are different people. We have nothing in common with you except some fringe stuff. And Pakistanis would kill themselves rather than unite back with you guys.

 

[sweep_shot]

You weaponise your so called money acting like a dehati aurat. Its not even your money, its money of the 1% of India while 99% is poor and living in subhuman conditions. It sounds ridiculous to see a common Indian chestbeat over Ambani’s money who doesnt see your life worth more than a dog.

This is a good point. Some of the Indian posters do bhangras over successes of other people. It is quite cringy and sad.

 

[Bhaijaan]

No Pakistani wants to unite with India. We are a different nation. We are different people. We have nothing in common with you except some fringe stuff. And Pakistanis would kill themselves rather than unite back with you guys.

This is why i said 100 years and not immediately. We will all be dead by then. Our future generations will reunite us.

 

[Slim]

I am not shameless but you are clueless. If anything, I actually wanted Indian team to travel Pakiatan for Champions Trophy. I have also called BCCI as hypocrites for picking and choosing when to play them. So you have no idea what are you talking about. Also, if my memory serves correctly no Indian poster ever had any issue with Pakistan hosting Champions trophy. Likes of Joshila, Devadwal and Mesozoic were against Indian team travelling to Pakistan. That is different from not wanting CT being played in Pakistan. If anything many wanted Pakistan to host the entire tournament in Pakistan even if it means Indian team not participating. Show me one post where any Indian poster have ever cribbed about Pakistan getting to host CT. The same question I asked BVB as well but he wrote everthing except showing me the proofs.

And I am only talking about discussions in this forum. What is happening outside in wider social media, I am not sure. However you should know how social media works and would be naive to think the hatred comes only from one side and Pakistanis are innocent listeners.

Looks like losing against NZ at home after hyping your team so much is taking a toll on you and you are taking your frustrations on me. Maine kya kia bhai? LOL. Apne team ko khelna sikhao pehle.

I couldnt care less about the NZ tri series final. I didnt even watch it except the first one hour. I slept.

Im frustrated by the level of audacity that joshila has to post what he posted after the kind of stuff him and his ilk have been posting.

Nice try at revisionism, i am not gonna hold your hands and show you your own posts and the people who quoted. You know what you did. Everyone who is on this forum and does not live under a cave knows. We dont have amnesia.

And again, nice try feigning ignorance as if you dont use social media? Who are you trying to fool? And you are trying to play the oh it should be both sides card lol?

You guys cannot hold themselves back barking and making up stuff on Rachin missing a catch and writing news articles on the stadium. Upon which karma hit back, and the lights went out in Cuttack upon which Pakistanis took you lot to town. Its always you lot who instigate and spread vitriol. The endless obsession. Not just with cricket but anything Pakistan related.

Find any Pakistan related video on the internet, and you will see an Indian polluting the comments.

 

[Slim]

This is why i said 100 years and not immediately. We will all be dead by then. Our future generations will reunite us.

Futures generations are even more aware. They cannot be conned like us millenials on the Aman ki Asha BS. I remember how in my high school days, we were given the kool aid that how partition could have been a mistake and how Indians and Pakistanis are same same.

But due to internet’s advent, and global hate against Indians. Pakistani younger generation is more aware than ever on how we are different countries and no one wants to do anything with India.

Thankyou Jinnah! May God bless your soul.

 

[emranabbas]

This is why i said 100 years and not immediately. We will all be dead by then. Our future generations will reunite us.

The hate is only getting worse. Honestly, 15 years ago, during the Aman Ki Asha days, most Pakistanis actually liked India. What happened in Mumbai was terrible, but it was the work of a tiny fraction of people who don’t even represent 1% of Pakistan. The way the rest of Pakistanis have been treated because of it isn’t fair. All this hate towards pakistani has only made things worse, and it’s probably going to keep going that way.

 

[Mesozoic]

But due to internet’s advent, and global hate against Indians. Pakistani younger generation is more aware than ever on how we are different countries and no one wants to do anything with India.

Just because Pakistan is not as relevant as India on the global stage, doesn't mean you guys (and other South Asians) won't get called the same racial slurs that Indians get called in the West.

It's hilarious how a few Pakistanis and Bangladeshis these days gloss over racism towards Indians as if they aren't all the same as Indians in the eyes of the racists. Sit down son. You're still brown

 

[Slim]

Just because Pakistan is not as relevant as India on the global stage, doesn't mean you guys (and other South Asians) won't get called the same racial slurs that Indians get called in the West.

It's hilarious how a few Pakistanis and Bangladeshis these days gloss over racism towards Indians as if they aren't all the same as Indians in the eyes of the racists. Sit down son.

I dont know about Bangladeshis, but this is pure cope. You are trying to go by the generic oh people in the west are so ignorant, shallow and blah blah. No. The people i have met in the west, clearly know the difference. They are even more aware in some things than i am. But if this copium helps you sleep at night, then go ahead paa jeee.

 

[HalBass9]

Just because Pakistan is not as relevant as India on the global stage, doesn't mean you guys (and other South Asians) won't get called the same racial slurs that Indians get called in the West.

It's hilarious how a few Pakistanis and Bangladeshis these days gloss over racism towards Indians as if they aren't all the same as Indians in the eyes of the racists. Sit down son. You're still brown

Mass migration has brought noticeable changes, and most people can recognize the difference. Racism against Indians is often linked to their behavior, while racism against Pakistanis is primarily due to their Muslim identity.

 

[Slim]

The hate is only getting worse. Honestly, 15 years ago, during the Aman Ki Asha days, most Pakistanis actually liked India. What happened in Mumbai was terrible, but it was the work of a tiny fraction of people who don’t even represent 1% of Pakistan. The way the rest of Pakistanis have been treated because of it isn’t fair. All this hate towards pakistani has only made things worse, and it’s probably going to keep going that way.

The way India has sponsored terrorism in Pakistan with the likes of Kulbushan Yadav has also not been missed by Pakistan. Pakistan has paid a heavy price of Indian state sponsored terrorism. More than 50,000 Pakistanis have lost their lives. No one is going to forget this.

 

[Mesozoic]

I dont know about Bangladeshis, but this is pure cope. You are trying to go by the generic oh people in the west are so ignorant, shallow and blah blah. No. The people i have met in the west, clearly know the difference. They are even more aware in some things than i am. But if this copium helps you sleep at night, then go ahead paa jeee.

Lmao...


"Bhaijaan trust me I am a different kind of brown person.. I'm not them. Please stop calling me those names"

Absolute clownery.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The hate is only getting worse. Honestly, 15 years ago, during the Aman Ki Asha days, most Pakistanis actually liked India. What happened in Mumbai was terrible, but it was the work of a tiny fraction of people who don’t even represent 1% of Pakistan. The way the rest of Pakistanis have been treated because of it isn’t fair. All this hate towards pakistani has only made things worse, and it’s probably going to keep going that way.

Pakistani people have come a long way. 2025 Pakistanis realistic understanding of the world is incredible. They’re very open minded. More than before.

We in Bharat are going through a country reformation phase. Centuries of colonial rule suppressed our way of life. We are correcting many historical blunders. We are making everyone adjust and i totally understand it’s not comfortable for many communities to adjust to new realities but trust me things are changing for the good.

Give our countries a few good decades, i am 100% certain we will make historic peace treaties and a reunification is very very likely in about 100 years. Many things have to go in a certain way for that to be possible.

Like Slim bhai said, immediately it’s hard for people to see it happening. But it’s possible and we all know it.

 

[Mesozoic]

Mass migration has brought noticeable changes, and most people can recognize the difference. Racism against Indians is often linked to their behavior, while racism against Pakistanis is primarily due to their Muslim identity.

Not one sentence of this post is true.

But sure. Keep telling that to yourselves to make you sleep better at night.

 

[Slim]

Lmao...


"Bhaijaan trust me I am a different kind of brown person.. I'm not them. Please stop calling me those names"

Absolute clownery.

You can stay in your fool’s world buddy. India supa powa 2020, am i right?

I live here on ground and know whats up.

 

[Local.Dada]

I dont know about Bangladeshis, but this is pure cope. You are trying to go by the generic oh people in the west are so ignorant, shallow and blah blah. No. The people i have met in the west, clearly know the difference. They are even more aware in some things than i am. But if this copium helps you sleep at night, then go ahead paa jeee.

Bro Pakistan and Bangladesh is practically made of Punjabis, Bengalis UP-Bihar belt Mohajirs and Sindhis.

As far as Pathan/Pashtun type go unfortunately they have other stereotypes associated with them.

So the fact that you are making these arguments is not copium but looks like opium addled delusions .

 

[Bhaijaan]

Futures generations are even more aware. They cannot be conned like us millenials on the Aman ki Asha BS. I remember how in my high school days, we were given the kool aid that how partition could have been a mistake and how Indians and Pakistanis are same same.

But due to internet’s advent, and global hate against Indians. Pakistani younger generation is more aware than ever on how we are different countries and no one wants to do anything with India.

Thankyou Jinnah! May God bless your soul.

Bro i appreciate you venting your anger. This is a healthy thing. Get it all off your chest. We have many deeper wounds to heal before we can be one nation again. We all would have to be extremely open minded and welcoming to everyone’s grievances stories.

 

[Slim]

Bro Pakistan and Bangladesh is practically made of Punjabis, Bengalis UP-Bihar belt Mohajirs and Sindhis.

As far as Pathan/Pashtun type go unfortunately they have other stereotypes associated with them.

So the fact that you are making these arguments is not copium but looks like opium addled delusions .

Most of the racist stereotypes about India currently stem out of their Gujarati, South Indian, and Sikh population. Which one of that is found in Pakistan?

And for you to think this way is pure ignorance. Get some education!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Thanks for an honest answer.

What do you think pakistanis would have done if in the same position as Indians?

Do you not find it shocking that pakistani business tycoons have shown little interest in these kind of investment?

I don't think Pakistani owners would have behaved the same way. This is hypothetical of course and just my opinion. We can't base it on anything.

As far as why Pakistani tycoons don't invest then I don't think there is anyone with the capacity to throw this much money away as most of these leagues have a long payback period and they are banking on a. Creating a market that doesn't exist in countries like England or b. Tapping into the Indian market.

I don't think either of the scenarios are going to take place so only an investor with deep pockets can take the risk. My own prediction is that once investors realise that these leagues won't be next IPL then the money will dry up and we don't have the investors who can keep pouring money in the hope that they payback eventually

In fact ( you may disagree) but I believe that the only possible expansion for IPL franchises that can be profitable and will also attract an Indian plus a local audience is in Pakistan. I know for sure ( and by sure I really do mean for sure) that if given the opportunity it's a place where Indians would invest in cricket after India. 270 million maniacs and an ok middle class where the majority stumbling block isn't money but the fact that the local don't have entrepreneurship skills to create and reap the market. Indians stepping in could reap big rewards.

If ties were to ever normalise you would see it happen instantly.

 

[HalBass9]

Not one sentence of this post is true.

But sure. Keep telling that to yourselves to make you sleep better at night.

Yea! it is. Canada, USA, UK, and now even in Australia.

 

[Mesozoic]

You can stay in your fool’s world buddy. India supa powa 2020, am i right?

I live here on ground and know whats up.

Looks like Pakistanis' only source of happiness is that India haven't become a supapawa by 2020.

All the while ignoring the fact that India has left them in the dust in terms of education, healthcare, economy, infrastructure, technology , space research and all other likewise parameters. Sad life tbh!

 

[Local.Dada]

Most of the racist stereotypes about India currently stem out of their Gujarati, South Indian, and Sikh population. Which one of that is found in Pakistan?

And for you to think this way is pure ignorance. Get some education!

Oh ok, Sikhs are Punjabis last time I checked, did you check on a map where Gujarat is and its affiliation with Sindh? Before partition they were practically the same overlapping cultures for centuries. Read a book ffs.

As far as South Indians well sure there are plenty of negative tropes but there are equally good and positive ones too.

You remind me of that Dave Chappell skit where he thought he was white

With the kind of brains at display here, on top of that with a Pakistani passport (if you haven’t given up on it)- no way you are getting treated better under neutral circumstances. In fact the “T” factor adds up too all the other Indian tropes. That kind of downgrades you. Whatever makes you feel better

 

[Mesozoic]

Yea! it is. Canada, USA, UK, and now even in Australia.

Yes. Racism towards South Asians has gone up in those countries. No one's disagreeing.

But it's quite comical, if you think it's only affecting Indians not other South Asian groups.

 

[Slim]

Yea! it is. Canada, USA, UK, and now even in Australia.

Mass migration has brought noticeable changes, and most people can recognize the difference. Racism against Indians is often linked to their behavior, while racism against Pakistanis is primarily due to their Muslim identity.

This is completely spot on.

I am okay being hated for being a muslim. Can thank the Rs in UK for that. But thankfully not for an Indian. Ew.

 

[Rajdeep]

I couldnt care less about the NZ tri series final. I didnt even watch it except the first one hour. I slept.

Im frustrated by the level of audacity that joshila has to post what he posted after the kind of stuff him and his ilk have been posting.

Nice try at revisionism, i am not gonna hold your hands and show you your own posts and the people who quoted. You know what you did. Everyone who is on this forum and does not live under a cave knows. We dont have amnesia.

And again, nice try feigning ignorance as if you dont use social media? Who are you trying to fool? And you are trying to play the oh it should be both sides card lol?

You guys cannot hold themselves back barking and making up stuff on Rachin missing a catch and writing news articles on the stadium. Upon which karma hit back, and the lights went out in Cuttack upon which Pakistanis took you lot to town. Its always you lot who instigate and spread vitriol. The endless obsession. Not just with cricket but anything Pakistan related.

Find any Pakistan related video on the internet, and you will see an Indian polluting the comments.

Brother I am not going to respond at your entire post bcoz genuinely I like you as a poster but wanted to say something regarding Rachin. It was Rashid Latif & Ahmed Sehzad blamed the lights for his injury. So obviously that gave Indian fans amunition to fire. Did you forget the conduct of Pakistani fans during WC 2023? Controversy after controversy. Bird poop in stadium seats, Shami was stopped from doing Sajda, Indian bowlers were given special ball hence they are getting so much swing etc etc. It really works both ways mate.

Anyway, this will be my last response on this topic. Lets enjoy the Champions Trophy.

 

[topspin]

Most of the racist stereotypes about India currently stem out of their Gujarati, South Indian, and Sikh population. Which one of that is found in Pakistan?

And for you to think this way is pure ignorance. Get some education!

Interesting map. Just goes to show, we're not the same. Yes they are Muhajirs from India and maybe other communities who are more ethnically Indian but as a whole they ain't like us.

 

[HalBass9]

Yes. Racism towards South Asians has gone up in those countries. No one's disagreeing.

But it's quite comical, if you think it's only affecting Indians not other South Asian groups.

No! What I'm saying is that the root cause of everything is mass Indian migration, and people can clearly distinguish Indian behavior.

I know you may not want to accept it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it's true.

 

[Slim]

Brother I am not going to respond at your entire post bcoz genuinely I like you as a poster but wanted to say something regarding Rachin. It was Rashid Latif & Ahmed Sehzad blamed the lights for his injury. So obviously that gave Indian fans amunition to fire. Did you forget the conduct of Pakistani fans during WC 2023? Controversy after controversy. Bird poop in stadium seats, Shami was stopped from doing Sajda, Indian bowlers were given special ball hence they are getting so much swing etc etc. It really works both ways mate.

Anyway, this will be my last response on this topic. Lets enjoy the Champions Trophy.

Rashid Latif and Ahmed Shehzad are awful, but Indian media had already posted about the stadium before that.

Pakistanis criticizing Pakistanis is one thing but Indians making up stuff is something that is being called out.

Pakistani players and fans were harassed in India in WC 2023. Who can forget the JSR chants thrown towards Rizwan and a Pakistani fan being stopped from saying Pakistani zindabad by Indian police??

With regards to the ball tampering allegations, it came from one guy, and everyone clowned on him. No one joined hands in hands to support him.

The point is, Indians need to look inwards on their hateful approach towards Pakistan and constant instigation before even thinking of acting victim in any such conversation.

 

[Mesozoic]

No! What I'm saying is that the root cause of everything is mass Indian migration, and people can clearly distinguish Indian behavior.

I know you may not want to accept it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it's true.

From what other behaviours?

 

[Mesozoic]

He also thinks he is some phesal race. Wonder who filled his head with that chooran.

Reminds me of this..

 

[Slim]

No! What I'm saying is that the root cause of everything is mass Indian migration, and people can clearly distinguish Indian behavior.

I know you may not want to accept it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it's true.

Indians even in the west try to use cover terms like brown, South Asian, desi etc. to bring other countries to the mix but people are not buying anything. They look at the stats, and there is one country’s population that pops up time and time again. Eating them from inside. These racists even do their research nowadays and target them on even niche stuff. Nowadays the hot topic is Satti. I was witnessing massive fight on this topic between white and indian twitter.