Pakistan's bowling attack for the first Test against Australia?

[Xoib]

Sohail, Imran, Wahab, Yasir

Sohail being the best new ball swing bowler should start, his new ball bowling would be the key atleast in the Day Night test if he has a poor game then Amir should come in for him at MCG

Imran-Deserves to keep his place for his last test performance every attack needs a work horse and he is perfect for the role.Misbah has used Amir regularly for this role who I don't think is suitable for such a role either Amir bowls as an out an out attacking option or does not get to play at all

Wahab- If there is one place where Wahab should do well its Australia if he has an average series here then he should be shown the door simple as that.

Yasir- It was huge blunder to drop him last test we need to play him no matter what the pitch looks like also along with Sohail is the only tailender who seems to know how to hold the bat

Thoughts?

 

[Timewaster]

Sohail, Imran, Wahab, Yasir

Sohail being the best new ball swing bowler should start, his new ball bowling would be the key atleast in the Day Night test if he has a poor game then Amir should come in for him at MCG

Imran-Deserves to keep his place for his last test performance every attack needs a work horse and he is perfect for the role.Misbah has used Amir regularly for this role who I don't think is suitable for such a role either Amir bowls as an out an out attacking option or does not get to play at all

Wahab- If there is one place where Wahab should do well its Australia if he has an average series here then he should be shown the door simple as that.

Yasir- It was huge blunder to drop him last test we need to play him no matter what the pitch looks like also along with Sohail is the only tailender who seems to know how to hold the bat

Thoughts?

I agree, though i'd be tempted to play Ali because Aussie have a lot of left handers and he does get wickets and his wayward style might get wickets especially on the flat decks of Aussie.

Amir needs to put some muscle on and bowl faster before he plays another test again. He looks very very skinny, surely PCB should have him on a weight training + high protein diet?????

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Imran is a pie bowler. Didn't appear to do much on a green pitch. Bowled incredibly wide and only really seemed to take wickets when it didn't really matter.

Amir, Sohail, Wahab and Yasir. Azhar and Babar to bowl spin too.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

I agree, though i'd be tempted to play Ali because Aussie have a lot of left handers and he does get wickets and his wayward style might get wickets especially on the flat decks of Aussie.

Amir needs to put some muscle on and bowl faster before he plays another test again. He looks very very skinny, surely PCB should have him on a weight training + high protein diet?????

Amir needs to bowl quicker. Rahat Ali should not play for Pakistan unless it's a dead rubber.

 

[Misia]

Imran should play

 

[KhalidRafi]

Amir, Wahab, Sohail, Yasir.

Rahat Ali can swing the ball, but far too often he bowls too wide outside the off-stump and gets punished by the batsmen. Sohail has proved he can bat a bit too which is always a bonus given how weak Pakistan's tail is. As for Imran, I just don't find him to be particularly impressive.

 

[Hasan123]

Amir,sohail,wahab, Yasir.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Amir, Sohail, Wahab and Yasir.

 

[QalandarFan]

Amir, Sohail, Wahab, and Yasir.

This will more than likely be our bowling attack for the 1st test.

 

[QalandarFan]

I agree, though i'd be tempted to play Ali because Aussie have a lot of left handers and he does get wickets and his wayward style might get wickets especially on the flat decks of Aussie.

Amir needs to put some muscle on and bowl faster before he plays another test again. He looks very very skinny, surely PCB should have him on a weight training + high protein diet?????

He was just as lean back in 2010 when he was bowling at 145+.

It just seems he doesn't have the same rhythm or fitness.

He needs to work on his fitness.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Lol stopped reading after seeing no Amir. He was easily our best bowler in New Zealand. No way should Imran get a game over him.

Wahab
Amir
Yasir
Sohail

 

[Suleiman]

If Imran plays his Lillee like stats will be destroyed and then his entire fanbase will have nothing to cheer over.

 

[Justcrazy]

The pace options are very limited . Not much quality to choose from.

Ideally should have been Asif , amir , Junaid , yasir.

I think it would be Amir , Sohail , Wahab , yasir.

 

[KamranDestiny]

Amir and yasir are a must. We beed to build our attack around them. Sohail is an automatic selection because he is the only bowler we have who can at least hold the bat. And since Rahat is useless with the old ball, Wahab will be selected over Imran who didn't do that bad against NZ.

So the bowling attack we will most probably get is
Amir
Sohail
Yasir
Wahab
(Azhar)

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

NZ speed guns were 5km slower compared to UAE ones.

There was a drop in all fast bowlers speed including Wahab, Amir, Sohail.


Speed guns in Aus will be atleast 7-8 kph quicker than what we saw in NZ. Same 135 kph would be 143 kph in Aus. Mark my words.


If the Gabba wicket has grass than I would never play Wahab with the Pink Ball. For other Tests He is a Must being the fastest plus has the best bouncer and reverse swing skill.


Won't drop Amir for the pink ball test. Neva. If he Averages more than 30 in first test than He should be rested for the second test.

 

[Junaids]

Lol stopped reading after seeing no Amir. He was easily our best bowler in New Zealand. No way should Imran get a game over him.

Wahab
Amir
Yasir
Sohail

Quite.

Mohammad Amir and Yasir Shah play because they are the best two bowlers.

I'm doubtful about two left-arm quicks simply because it would create rough for Nathan Lyon, but the pitch will be very grassy so that shouldn't matter.

There needs to be some consideration of Australia having seven left-hand batsmen.

The question is a new one: do you pick Imran Khan to bend it away to the slips to the left-hander, or do you pick Sohail Khan to bring it back in for LBW shouts?

MY BOWLING ATTACK FOR BRISBANE

Mohammad Asif
Mohammad Amir
Hasan Ali
Yasir Shah
Mohammad Hafeez

MY ONE FROM THIS TOTALLY UNTHOUGHT-OUT SQUAD

Mohammad Amir
Sohail Khan
Rahat Ali
Yasir Shah

 

[QalandarFan]

Lol stopped reading after seeing no Amir. He was easily our best bowler in New Zealand. No way should Imran get a game over him.
Wahab
Amir
Yasir
Sohail

I know it's hilarious how people want him dropped, he's not the same bowler he was 6 years ago, but at least he can keep things tight and also pick up wickets when needed.

He averaged 28 in this last series but that's not good enough.

 

[QalandarFan]

NZ speed guns were 5km slower compared to UAE ones.

There was a drop in all fast bowlers speed including Wahab, Amir, Sohail.


Speed guns in Aus will be atleast 7-8 kph quicker than what we saw in NZ. Same 135 kph would be 143 kph in Aus. Mark my words.


If the Gabba wicket has grass than I would never play Wahab with the Pink Ball. For other Tests He is a Must being the fastest plus has the best bouncer and reverse swing skill.


Won't drop Amir for the pink ball test. Neva. If he Averages more than 30 in first test than He should be rested for the second test.

Why is there such a significant difference in speed guns in different countries.

Even in Bangladesh the speed guns were quicker.

 

[Junaids]

Why is there such a significant difference in speed guns in different countries.

Even in Bangladesh the speed guns were quicker.

In the recent SA v NZ Tests, the SuperSport speed gun was consistently 8-10K slower per ball than the Cricinfo reports of the speeds.

Cricinfo had Dale Steyn back bowling in the 140s on the same deliveries where the TV coverage was showing him at 133K or 135K.

 

[Pete Rose]

Rahat should be preferred over wahab in two tests at least

 

[ExpressPacer]

The fact is, no matter what attack Pakistan plays, it certainly does not have the ability to do anything effective. The best possible scenario would be for Mohammad Amir to rank it up to close 150 KPH in his first two overs and not save his energy because that is the ONLY time he can actually offer some swing, other than that, he just darts it in. We may pick up a couple of wickets, hopefully Warner, and that is the best chance we have to restricting them to a gargantuan total.

Sohail Khan is unfit, clearly. It was only England's cool weather that helped him stay on the ground. In the Aussie Summer, I seriously doubt he'll be able to field for a whole day let alone be a match winner. Other than that, lets imagine he miraculously turns into an athlete and is the fittest guy on the planet, he still can't do much with his 130-135 KPH seam/swing bowling. Now, I'm not a pace fanatic, but this guy has nothing to offer. No skill at all. Most of his wickets have been luck and tailenders.

Rahat Ali, well, he does get some swing early on but I doubt that'll be any effective and with Aus playing 7 left handers, his Medium Fast bowling is going to be murdered. I thought he would have gotten better with time but I'm seriously disappointed in him.

Imran Khan, lol, the less said the better. No skill, no pace, no batting, no fielding. Why is he even on the team? At least Sohail gets the occasional ball to swing and can seam it in favourable conditions. This guy just runs in without a plan hoping for the ball to miraculously hit the stumps or get an edge.

Wahab Riaz is someone I would pick even if I had the choice to pick whosoever I wanted from the world. He's got pace, he's mean-ish, and he has sort-of the kill a fast bowler requires. Now, I'm not expecting him to light it up but I think he's one of those guys who can win you matches primarily on their own. He rarely hits that purple patch, but when he does, it is mighty effective. So, if he's on good song, we might have a good chance.

Yasir Shah: Love the guy, he gives his best while bowling, fielding or batting. A good guy for the whole dressing room and supremely talented. But, with 7 lefties in the Aussie line up, I'm not sure HOW good he'll go. However, you never know with someone with unbelievable talent.

Overall, even though I'm 90% sure these blokes will fail because of the immense pressure, a couple of them have it in them to do wonders.

 

[Barragan]

I would go with Amir, Sohail, Imran and Yasir.

But I'm sure Wahab will play instead of Imran.

 

[Amirforpresident]

Some fans want Imran dropped even after he picked 3 wickets in both innings of the last match?

Amir and Sohail bith picked 7 wickets while playing both matches if I remember correctly. Just 1 more than Imran.

 

[mz123]

Amir, Sohail, Wahab and Yasir

 

[Hawkeye]

Some fans want Imran dropped even after he picked 3 wickets in both innings of the last match?

Amir and Sohail bith picked 7 wickets while playing both matches if I remember correctly. Just 1 more than Imran.

Watch cricket please. Imran is rubbish, no skill with the ball and just trundles in. If he plays, Aus is going to score 100 off him in 10 overs.

Anyways.

Our attack overall is poor. No matter what combo we play, they'll not be very effective. Imran and Wahab are height of mediocrity, but Wahab can be somewhat handy on dry pitches and grounds where the ball can be scruffed up for reverse swing.

Will play:

Amir
Rahat
Wahab (not in pink ball Test due to grass)
Yasir
Sohail

Yeah, we need 5 bowlers in other matches. 4 just won't do it in Australia's flat decks. It gives enough time for pacers to have some rest, too, otherwise they won't be at their best.

Mickey Arthur must realize this.

 

[Hawkeye]

MY ONE FROM THIS TOTALLY UNTHOUGHT-OUT SQUAD

Mohammad Amir
Sohail Khan
Rahat Ali
Yasir Shah

Why are you playing only 4? It's going to cause some serious trouble for the pacers, specially in the day Tests.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

We haven't got too many options to be honest. Knowing Mickey a little bit he will go for these 4:

Sohail
Amir
Wahab
Yasir

People are obsessed with Wahab's pace so he will be there.

 

[Junaids]

Why are you playing only 4? It's going to cause some serious trouble for the pacers, specially in the day Tests.

Yes, I agree.

The problem is Younis and Misbah. Both will be selected, but neither will score any runs, so Asad Shafiq will bat at 6.

Ideally you'd have an all-rounder at 7 and Sarfraz at 6, but he himself is not scoring enough runs while Aamer Yamin and Mohammad Nawaz aren't either.

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

I know it's hilarious how people want him dropped, he's not the same bowler he was 6 years ago, but at least he can keep things tight and also pick up wickets when needed.

He averaged 28 in this last series but that's not good enough.

and that's with catches dropped. He's had 14 of them dropped since his return in tests...

 

[Hawkeye]

Yes, I agree.

The problem is Younis and Misbah. Both will be selected, but neither will score any runs, so Asad Shafiq will bat at 6.

Ideally you'd have an all-rounder at 7 and Sarfraz at 6, but he himself is not scoring enough runs while Aamer Yamin and Mohammad Nawaz aren't either.

One of them will score decent, in fact better than Shafiq and Azhar.

I'll back Misbah to do it, he was decent even on the green pitch in NZ where he played.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Sohail and Wahab are your best bowlers and can't be dropped. Those two,Amir and Yasir should be the attack.

 

[aloo paratha]

Agree! Will take performance over hype. Imran Khan earned it, took 6 wickets in his comeback match, Amir only took 3 in it (I'll say 4 because of the dropped catch).

 

[Speedster777]

Barring Amir, the rest are all at the same level doesn't matter who plays, results would be same.

 

[BDwarriors]

Why players talking about asif here? Is there any chance left to bring asif for australia series? Arent the team already in australia?

 

[Junaids]

Why players talking about asif here? Is there any chance left to bring asif for australia series? Arent the team already in australia?

The history of Pakistan cricket is that players can be and often are called up in mid-tour.

A very similar case refers to the 1983-84 Pakistan tour of Australia. The only world class fast bowler was Imran Khan, but he had stress fractures of the shin. Sarfraz Nawaz was long past his best - but he was better than the selected bowlers (Azeem Hafeez, Tahir Naqqash and other guys who were way down in the class of Rahat Ali and Sohail Khan).

Sarfraz had been left out because he was sensationally rude and disrespectful. But after Pakistan went 2-0 down in a 5 Test series it was obvious that the guys originally selected were inferior, so suddenly he was flown over and took 8 wickets in 4 innings.

The same occurred on the 1994-95 tour of South Africa, where Aamir Nazir was flown in so late that the teams had already tossed the coin when he landed at Johannesburg.

And on the next tour the same thing happened with Wasim Akram, who had not been selected for reasons that I can't put into writing, only to be flown in for the decisive Test.

Mohammad Asif is clearly better than the two right-armers currently in Australia, and until the teamsheet for the Sydney Test is finalized on 4 January, people like me are going to be kicking up a stink about his omission.

 

[hitthestump]

Wahab- If there is one place where Wahab should do well its Australia if he has an average series here then he should be shown the door simple as that.

How many times are we going to hear this about Wahab

 

[khurram39]

I think We must go with Imran, Rahat, Yasir and Wahab. Just give a go to Wahab just because what he did in WC. If he performs then its ok otherwise he will be replaced with Amir. Not including Suhail because of inability to take wickets in 2nd Innings.

 

[abughio]

the best thing about bowling squad is that all are mediocre and you can pick any three of them and justify your choice easily

 

[New Yorker]

Watch cricket please. Imran is rubbish, no skill with the ball and just trundles in. If he plays, Aus is going to score 100 off him in 10 overs.

Anyways.

Our attack overall is poor. No matter what combo we play, they'll not be very effective. Imran and Wahab are height of mediocrity, but Wahab can be somewhat handy on dry pitches and grounds where the ball can be scruffed up for reverse swing.

Will play:

Amir
Rahat
Wahab (not in pink ball Test due to grass)
Yasir
Sohail

Yeah, we need 5 bowlers in other matches. 4 just won't do it in Australia's flat decks. It gives enough time for pacers to have some rest, too, otherwise they won't be at their best.

Mickey Arthur must realize this.

You know that "trundler" doesn't actually constitute an argument, right? You can throw it around as much as you want, but you still have to explain why this player who you rate so poorly has on recent record done better than Wahab, Rahat and Amir ? If you can't understand how wickets are taken perhaps you do not know as much about cricket as you would like think? Because here's the surprise. This guy takes wickets.

 

[New Yorker]

How many times are we going to hear this about Wahab

it won't matter if he has an average series. he has never been in the side on the strength of actual
performances.

 

[Usman Chadda]

How on earth do Sohail Khan and Rahat Ali have supporters still left after the NZ series is beyond me. Wahab Riaz can win you a match when he has 'those' extremely rare spells. Imran Khan can be excused since he hasn't had a bowl in test cricket since quite a while. Amir, while being a bit disappointing with the lack of wickets, has still looked the most likely to create opportunities.

Sohail and Rahat should be dropped after the Australian tour. Absolute rubbish watching these two serve up short and wide half-tracker after half-tracker.

 

[Markhor]

Sohail Khan is unfit, clearly. It was only England's cool weather that helped him stay on the ground. In the Aussie Summer, I seriously doubt he'll be able to field for a whole day let alone be a match winner. Other than that, lets imagine he miraculously turns into an athlete and is the fittest guy on the planet, he still can't do much with his 130-135 KPH seam/swing bowling. Now, I'm not a pace fanatic, but this guy has nothing to offer. No skill at all. Most of his wickets have been luck and tailenders.

I agree how Sohail will last in a 4 man attack in the heat of the Australian summer is worrying given the sight of him huffiing and puffing come the 2nd Innings of every Test.

However the second part of your statement is totally false. Sohail took two 5-fers in England and no they were not all tailenders. Sohail bowled the perfect fullish channel outside off-stump for English conditions and got swing unlike our other bowlers so can trouble Australia given their frailties against swing, especially in the Brisbane day-nighter.

Sohail's introduction at Edgbaston was the difference maker on that tour bowling-wise. We bowled England out for relatively cheap 1st inns scores in the 3rd and 4th Teats after conceding 550+ at Old Trafford with "fast and furious Wahab" and co.

Sohail's also outperformed Amir this year if you look at the numbers too.

 

[Speedster777]

How on earth do Sohail Khan and Rahat Ali have supporters still left after the NZ series is beyond me. Wahab Riaz can win you a match when he has 'those' extremely rare spells. Imran Khan can be excused since he hasn't had a bowl in test cricket since quite a while. Amir, while being a bit disappointing with the lack of wickets, has still looked the most likely to create opportunities.

Sohail and Rahat should be dropped after the Australian tour. Absolute rubbish watching these two serve up short and wide half-tracker after half-tracker.

Agreed. Even Wahab should be dropped. I was watching Shoaib Akhter on game on Hai where he said at max a fast bowler needs 5-6 Tests to prove his skills. Wahab, Rahat and Sohail have been given far too many opportunities. Sohail Khan can't even last one Test match yet he has been selected for Australian tour like what the heck were the selectors thinking? You need a right arm quick in Australia.

 

[New Yorker]

How on earth do Sohail Khan and Rahat Ali have supporters still left after the NZ series is beyond me. Wahab Riaz can win you a match when he has 'those' extremely rare spells. Imran Khan can be excused since he hasn't had a bowl in test cricket since quite a while. Amir, while being a bit disappointing with the lack of wickets, has still looked the most likely to create opportunities.

Sohail and Rahat should be dropped after the Australian tour. Absolute rubbish watching these two serve up short and wide half-tracker after half-tracker.

Because on recent evidence, and for all his faults, Sohail is much more like to
win you a match than either Wahab, Rahat or Amir. Was head and shoulder
above the rest of the pack in England.

 

[New Yorker]

Agreed. Even Wahab should be dropped. I was watching Shoaib Akhter on game on Hai where he said at max a fast bowler needs 5-6 Tests to prove his skills. Wahab, Rahat and Sohail have been given far too many opportunities. Sohail Khan can't even last one Test match yet he has been selected for Australian tour like what the heck were the selectors thinking? You need a right arm quick in Australia.

They were probably thinking heck, in his last 5-6 Tests Sohail has taken 2 5fers.

 

[Speedster777]

They were probably thinking heck, in his last 5-6 Tests Sohail has taken 2 5fers.

In the same 3rd Test England scored above 300 despite his 5 wickets as he got visibly tired to bowl any further and bowled too many loose deliveries. His failure in NZ tells a lot about his class and fitness.