He was not a succesful test coach. The disastrous tours of NZ and Australia. The disastrous England tour. Yes, we beat Bangladesh at home, but that’s expected. Just because the current team lost to them, it doesn’t mean that the 2020 win was anything to write home about. The best win was the SA series at home ok credit where it’s due. So just one series is enough? More points from his captaincy below:
1. Yes agreed Sarfraz was a game changer - because he played his natural game. Now why did the the game need to be changed? If Misbah’s system was so perfect, why was sarfraz at 7 a game changer? At the beginning, Misbah was running with Adnan Akmal. Sarfi made his test debut in 2009. He could have played from the start of Misbah’s reign.
2. Azhar was tuk tuk extraordinaire, I don’t care what the stats say- they can be bumped up by the odd innings. Not only that, he played the same way if the team was 20-1 or 200-1. Always creating a crisis out of nothing. But you have one point, he did play some good innings. My problem with some of our tuk-tuk-holics is not necessarily the tuktuk, it’s what it results from it. If someone tuks away and keeps scoring centuries ok, I’ll give that, there’s an end product. But azhar although showed glimpses of that, didn’t do it often enough.
2. Asad shafiq was another one who was forced to hold himself back. This is the guy who in his first ODI hit 5 fours in an over. He then integrated in to Tuk Tuk XI. A natural stroke maker, he held himself back a lot resulting in a very unfulfilled career.
3. The test series vs England in 2016 we would have lost 3-1 without Younis’ double century. And this was a common theme. An ATG saved misbah’s captaincy career. But you won’t always have an ATG, so is the strategy sustainable. And believe we have no ATGs in the team now.
I’m sorry, I’m not gonna lota around and revise history because it may seem popular. Misbah was the worst thing that happened to Pakistan cricket and I’m not gonna flip flop about it.
I’m sorry, I’m not gonna lota around and revise history.
Brother relax, you already know the type of poster i am, you dont need to worry about agenda based replies with me, we're just having a friendly discussion thats all.
Now for the rest.
The first point I agree with, Sarfi was mostly a forced entry due to adnan's failures. However at the end of the day Sarfi did come at no 7 and was a regular thpughput 2014 to 2016 till misbah's reign. Misbah never kicked him out for rizzu during this time period.
2) Azhar in test wasn't bad brother, in all of Azhar's 19 test centuries, Pakistan won most of their games. They drew very few times and lost only 5x, and most of those losses occurred in the 2017 to 2018 period after misbah era. And he can't be blamed for the Australia loss where he struck 205, he did his part, the rest didn't. Infact his 302 not put against West Indies resulted in a crushing victory for pakistan. Azhar was a genuinely good test player and was only overshadowed by YK? Many test games were due to azhar Ali?
As for odi, he hardly played much odi, moat of his crappy odi knocks were from when Misbah wasn't even around, he only featured under misbah for 2012 India game where he and YK partnership in 2nd odi won it for pakistan.
Then afterwards he became captain when misbah wasn't in odi, his own performances in odi were very very good during this time period, yes he was a garage captain but he willingly stepped down.
If azhar was a crap player as you proclaim, sarfi and mickey wouldn't have requested azhar Ali to stay till ct 2017, Azhar wanted to retire from odi as soon as relinquished captaincy lol. I'm not saying he's a revolutionary player but he was a gun test player and from the lists of shehzad, Imam's, Abdullah's, he's clearly the better opener and was the best pair alongside Fakhar Zaman.
3) Asad Shafiq wasn't forced to hold himself back, that 5 4's is a one off. Shafiq was rubbish in odi plain and simple, theirs no excuse, he was garage through and through and is the worst odi player to have played 50 or more games for pakistan.
Misbah is 100% at fault for selecting him in odi and giving him an extended rope and sidelining sarfi post Australia odi series. Shafiq hilariously flopped during this time period and in the subsequent series.
4) Agreed on this.
Here's what I'm not understanding. For me Misbah was a great test captain, a horrible coach and selector and horrible Odi and t20 captain. And that's what history even suggests.
What I'm not understanding is how or why you guys are linking uae test and this Bangladesh series to misbah when he isn't involved in this case?
Misbah has nothing to do with the likes of Shan masood being appointed nor is he making any decisons atm? And nor does he have anything to do with shafiq's odi failures. He infact gave shafiq a bigger push then Rizwam even, but shafiq was just rubbish. Asad shafiq's career highlight is that 100 against sri lanka where he and sarfi won the game from a lost position.
But I don't get how Azhar and Shafiq's play style has anything to do with misbah or what this Bangladesh series has anything to do with it
before Big Tournament! Misbah is the biggest problem for Pakistan cricket! Pcb should investigate Mohali match. I’m sure someone gave him money to do More tuktuk Thn usual
