Pakistan's Gameplan (lack thereof)

[SpiritOf1903]

Is the Pakistan cricket governance reflective of the malaise at every level?. Intellectual deficit; playing 20 over cricket like they're at the start of an ODI. SRs of <115.

This is baffling. Was nothing learnt from the Asia cup humiliation?. This is terminal decline that is only going to improve with its society. Pakistan cricket is in the gutter.

 

[muqarrab]

Intellect? What does that have to do with this?

Get rid of Ramiz and his crony Saqlain.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Intellect? What does that have to do with this?

Get rid of Ramiz and his crony Saqlain.

It's dumb, naive cricket. Saqlain should join a madrassaah instead as he's good as a spin doctor

 

[Savak]

As much as the team management selects the guys in the middle, the game plan reflects a complete lack of confidence. When the game plan is to leave 10-12 rpo in the last 5 plus overs, you know the team management is praying for a fluke

 

[muqarrab]

It's dumb, naive cricket. Saqlain should join a madrassaah instead as he's good as a spin doctor

Rameez has his pet PR projects tht he is going after, like the junior league and pig headedly following Ik's agenda, but he hasn't done anything to improve the first team. In 2022 he lines in his lalaland thinking support staff doesn't matter, its been year since he took charge and he hasn't been able to zero in a management structure that can take the team forward, get rid is this all-eyez-on-me attention seeker.

 

[indianpanacea]

If I may be blunt none of the batters in current Pak side deserve to be playing T20.. not even Babar and Rizwan..
Babar and Rizwan look extraordinary because you are comparing them with rest of team batters...
After all both Babar/Rizwan usually play 10 overs but how much do they score??An odd 60-65 and if pitch is good then may be 70-75..but I believe they do more harm than good to the side..they consume too much overs for my liking ,score at an ordinary strike rate and middle order comes under pressure..
I would take none of the current batters in my squad..plus both saqlain and yousuf are of an era when t20was not being played .what will they bring for team??
Instead Pakistan should appoint Hafiz as interim coach for world Cup..
Fakhar
Sharjeel
Haris sohail
Sohaib maqsood
Azam Khan

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

We are all incredibly annoyed by that performance. Given the two close Pak wins, 6-1 would be a better description of where the two teams are.

However, including any last minute replacements will only paper over the cracks.

Clearly, we’re not expecting a lot from the World Cup. Even if Fakhar makes it, that 4-5-6 position is brittle beyond belief. Shadab’s hamstring strain is another huge worry.

Pakistan, with its mercurial tag, through the efforts of its bowlers, Rizzy, Babar and the odd cameo have managed to stay competitive. However that strategy is not sustainable.

Yes, Pakistan don’t have the middle order batting talent of an India/Australia/England etc. But what they can do, is maximise the resources they do have. And currently even that’s not happening.

Pakistan can look to a Sri Lanka, a SA, which, with a limited talent pool, have made something of themselves, maximised their resources.

Lastly, I think Pakistan really do need a headstrong, dominant modern head coach. Saqi is someone I greatly respect not just for his playing services, but because he’s a generally good man.

However, he is someone who would do well at an India, where the players are so experienced and confident that his ability of man mAnagement would work wonders in that set up.

Pakistan need a visionary coach who can redefine our whole white ball strategy. Because the way it currently stands is not sustainable.

 

[Markhor]

We are all incredibly annoyed by that performance. Given the two close Pak wins, 6-1 would be a better description of where the two teams are.

However, including any last minute replacements will only paper over the cracks.

Clearly, we’re not expecting a lot from the World Cup. Even if Fakhar makes it, that 4-5-6 position is brittle beyond belief. Shadab’s hamstring strain is another huge worry.

Pakistan, with its mercurial tag, through the efforts of its bowlers, Rizzy, Babar and the odd cameo have managed to stay competitive. However that strategy is not sustainable.

Yes, Pakistan don’t have the middle order batting talent of an India/Australia/England etc. But what they can do, is maximise the resources they do have. And currently even that’s not happening.

Pakistan can look to a Sri Lanka, a SA, which, with a limited talent pool, have made something of themselves, maximised their resources.

Lastly, I think Pakistan really do need a headstrong, dominant modern head coach. Saqi is someone I greatly respect not just for his playing services, but because he’s a generally good man.

However, he is someone who would do well at an India, where the players are so experienced and confident that his ability of man mAnagement would work wonders in that set up.

Pakistan need a visionary coach who can redefine our whole white ball strategy. Because the way it currently stands is not sustainable.

Spot on. I said in the match thread that Pakistan's cricket is reflective of our society - adhoc decisions, relying on messianic individuals and no coherent long-term plans except to make dua and hope for the best.

Babar's limitations as a captain means we need a headstrong, tough and tactically astute coach to support him.

Sadly, Saqlain ain't that. A good man manager and the right interim appointment after Misbah's sudden resignation, but not the person we currently need.

 

[Rana]

Spot on. I said in the match thread that Pakistan's cricket is reflective of our society - adhoc decisions, relying on messianic individuals and no coherent long-term plans except to make dua and hope for the best.

Babar's limitations as a captain means we need a headstrong, tough and tactically astute coach to support him.

Sadly, Saqlain ain't that. A good man manager and the right interim appointment after Misbah's sudden resignation, but not the person we currently need.

The only guy who will do things in the right manner is Ricky Ponting

I would sell an F16 to Uzbekistan in order to free up the budget to sign him as our head coach if needed!

 

[cricenjoyer]

Babar's captaincy best sums up OPs title.

In the 6th T20 Nawaz was taken to the cleaners by Salt so what does Babar do the next game? Same thing he's done all series, bowl Nawaz upfront. Strategically it makes zero since since were going to a world cup in Australia so wouldn't it be better to give confidence to someone like Hasnain or Wasim and see what they can do with the ball straight away.

A poor leader which is further emphasised by Karachi King's performance in the PSL

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

The only guy who will do things in the right manner is Ricky Ponting

I would sell an F16 to Uzbekistan in order to free up the budget to sign him as our head coach if needed!

That’s not a bad shout, however given his IPL commitments I’m not holding my breath.

It’s just makes me think, the late great Dean Jones was such a missed opportunity man! It was a sliding doors moment for Pakistan, as we went with Misbah instead.

McCullum would have been another very good appointment.

The position really needs a headstrong Gora, whose not beholden to data completely, has an aggressive determined mindset, is able to coach modern cricket, especially into the batsmen, can be tactically astute and a good man manager.

Thus, most definitely not a Peter Moores type, but more a Baz McCullum type.

Someone like a Trevor Bayliss would be good, but he needs a strong captain beside him to make it work.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Babar's captaincy best sums up OPs title.

In the 6th T20 Nawaz was taken to the cleaners by Salt so what does Babar do the next game? Same thing he's done all series, bowl Nawaz upfront. Strategically it makes zero since since were going to a world cup in Australia so wouldn't it be better to give confidence to someone like Hasnain or Wasim and see what they can do with the ball straight away.

A poor leader which is further emphasised by Karachi King's performance in the PSL

I think the Karachi Kings performance in last years PSL gave us a good insight into Babar’s capabilities as captain. He basically is unable to lead a team to be greater than the sum of its parts, on a consistent basis. Mind you, this ability is the most difficult thing to do. He’s also more reactive as a captain than proactive. Which is fine in most cases, but for a team as mercurial as Pakistan, you need all the advantages you can get, and being proactive does help.

He’s also shown to back the wrong players, e.g. Tom Lammonby at KK and now Khushdil for Pak.

When Misbah gave Babar the captaincy, he went with the whole ‘The best player is the captain’ approach. How many times has that really worked as an approach. Tendulkar, Flintoff, Root and Kohli were (and are) incredible performers, but weren’t necessarily leaders that inspired with their leadership skills. In recent memory, Kane Williamson is the only one where such an approach has worked. Unfortunately for Pakistan, there are no outstanding captaincy figures in either the squad or in domestic that stands out.

Shadab could be, but he already has enough if a burden being the country’s only effective wrist spinner and semi dependable middle order bat.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

They had plenty of warning and still persisted with the same ****