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Pakistan's MQM 'received Indian funding' [BBC Report]

Mohan yaar .. Mind na kerna.. We just pulling you leg. I hope it's ok if we do that without UN permission. :)
 
I'll let you guys in on a secret. I wrote that report. No seriously just to wind up the joshila gang..
 
Strike Rate said:
OMG and you leaked it to Dr Shahid Masood and BBC? :13:
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Idher report TGK nai leak ki hai udher Indians ki gas leak kara di hai.

Yaar kuch to khayal karo, bhai log. udher safe matam bhich gayi hai. This aint the way to treat your neighbors.

Mohan is already on his fourth keyboard of the week aur Joshila ney to typist hire ker lia hai.
 
Stewie said:
Idher report TGK nai leak ki hai udher Indians ki gas leak kara di hai.

Yaar kuch to khayal karo, bhai log. udher safe matam bhich gayi hai. This aint the way to treat your neighbors.

Mohan is already on his fourth keyboard of the week aur Joshila ney to typist hire ker lia hai.
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haha lol man
 
Parosee from the Pak Sar Zameen getting desperate :)))

When we can prove nothing, let's divert from the topic and go off in tangents. How typical.
 
Former RAW chief AS Dulat efused to answer a question about India funding of MQM he said Altaf Hussain is a guest of British intelligence agency MI-6 in London.
 
But people have voted MQM to power in Karachi, why rest of Pakistani's don't respect people's mandate?

Even if all allegations are true and MQM is indeed Anti-Pakistan party, why Punjabi's don't ponder over the reasons for MQM's popularity.
 
Stewie said:
Idher report TGK nai leak ki hai udher Indians ki gas leak kara di hai.

Yaar kuch to khayal karo, bhai log. udher safe matam bhich gayi hai. This aint the way to treat your neighbors.

Mohan is already on his fourth keyboard of the week aur Joshila ney to typist hire ker lia hai.
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Hahaha..yaar bus shahid puranha dost hay..thought I could have some fun and troll the trolls for once..joshila gang meltdown is the best reward for my efforts..
 
Strike Rate said:
Former RAW chief AS Dulat efused to answer a question about India funding of MQM he said Altaf Hussain is a guest of British intelligence agency MI-6 in London.
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Where's your proof the head of RAW knows how to speak.. We have to first find out if he can speak..
 
Check this out. From Iraq. [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION]

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Daesh are found with Indian currency. More evidence of Indian support for murderous terrorist khwarij.
 
Statements from Altaf's yesterday speech i think iska aakhri time aa gaya he

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Looks like Altaf bhatte, fitraane or zakaat ke peson ke baghaer mere ja raha he. Tamam PP se guzarish he fitrana or zakaat banaam Altaf waqf keren.
 
RWAC said:
What is that I see between the two 10 rupees notes? Empty space I say. Because no one dare say Sauuuu.....shhh...
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What use is Indian Ruppee in Iraq? If India was supporting ISIS, why would they give them Indian Ruppee?

To me it looks like they are printing fake Indian currency which they would use to weaken Indian economy. So, India looks like their enemy!
 
Sidilicious said:
What use is Indian Ruppee in Iraq? If India was supporting ISIS, why would they give them Indian Ruppee?

To me it looks like they are printing fake Indian currency which they would use to weaken Indian economy. So, India looks like their enemy!
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good question what are indian rupees doing in iraq? by the way this was posted by Iraq today on twitter not by a pakistani..
there have been rumblings that Ajit doval has been trying to "buy" some "jihadis" for his own ends, e.g. in afghanistan. Remember ISIS are essentially Saddams old baathists dressed up in religious garb. There would be links there..
 
the Great Khan said:
good question what are indian rupees doing in iraq? by the way this was posted by Iraq today on twitter not by a pakistani..
there have been rumblings that Ajit doval has been trying to "buy" some "jihadis" for his own ends, e.g. in afghanistan. Remember ISIS are essentially Saddams old baathists dressed up in religious garb. There would be links there..
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Maybe India was trying to get cheap oil from ISIS?
 
the Great Khan said:
lol..im sure they can get oil from elsewhere..
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But they sell it really cheap. I heard ISIS funds their operations by selling cheap oil to some nations through a middleman and make a ton of money. But I don't know if they are paid in dollars or not.
 
the Great Khan said:
lol..im sure they can get oil from elsewhere..
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Considering we have been supporting Iran even during these sanctions, I don't think cheap oil is a major concern for India.

Hopefully, with Iran having its sanctions removed, and the cost of producing Shale oil reducing, the price of oil will go down further, and thus hopefully this will impact Saudi
 
Sidilicious said:
Considering we have been supporting Iran even during these sanctions, I don't think cheap oil is a major concern for India.

Hopefully, with Iran having its sanctions removed, and the cost of producing Shale oil reducing, the price of oil will go down further, and thus hopefully this will impact Saudi
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India's now working through Russian banks to buy Iranian oil bypassing Western sanctions... Unrelated to this Rosneft inked a deal with Essar refinery for 10 year supply- effectively will be channeling Iranian oil through Rosneft to Essar in India
 
Khwaja asif let rip against bhai and his lot on Off the record..really went to town on em..never heard them do that before..I think bhai is in big trouble!!
 
the Great Khan said:
Khwaja asif let rip against bhai and his lot on Off the record..really went to town on em..never heard them do that before..I think bhai is in big trouble!!
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What do you think is going to happen to bhai when you say he is in big trouble?
 
Sidilicious said:
What use is Indian Ruppee in Iraq? If India was supporting ISIS, why would they give them Indian Ruppee?

To me it looks like they are printing fake Indian currency which they would use to weaken Indian economy. So, India looks like their enemy!
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Of course, I don't "buy" it. If RAW is that notorious as our neighbors would make it to be, why would they send Indian currency there since Saudi riyals and other local currencies may be much more valuable, useful, and will avoid scrutiny.

First, we don't know if that picture is actually from Islamic State controlled area or someplace else.

Second, even IF it is authentic, the presence of any currency means zilch. There is Saudi currency there, so does that mean Saudi is also funding ISIS (a conclusion which the poster who posted the pic decided he did not need to make because it's beloved Saudia).

It could very well be that this is from the few ummah-loving Indians who travelled there with Indian currency. Islamic State may just be taking a photo of different currencies as part of their promotion to show jihadists from around the world have joined the caliphate.
 
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RWAC said:
Of course, I don't "buy" it. If RAW is that notorious as our neighbors would make it to be, why would they send Indian currency there since Saudi riyals and other local currencies may be much more valuable, useful, and will avoid scrutiny.

First, we don't know if that picture is actually from Islamic State controlled area or someplace else.

Second, even IF it is authentic, the presence of any currency means zilch. There is Saudi currency there, so does that mean Saudi is also funding ISIS (a conclusion which the poster who posted the pic decided he did not need to make because it's beloved Saudia).

It could very well be that this is from the few ummah-loving Indians who travelled there with Indian currency. Islamic State may just be taking a photo of different currencies as part of their promotion to show jihadists from around the world have joined the caliphate.
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The Iraqi fighting ISIS posted that photo...
 
Sidilicious said:
still proves jack
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yeah proves nothing except that Indian currency was found in the pockets of dead ISIS fighters..thereby establishing a link between your country and the evil scum known as ISIS. Now imagine if they found pakistani currency there? caught again. Currency was also found in Miranshah after the battle for that town. Tons of the stuff..but proves nothing..i mean even if they found Indian passports and fake names you would say that..welcome to the land of the river denial..
 
the Great Khan said:
The Iraqi fighting ISIS posted that photo...
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Okay let's take that at face value...

the Great Khan said:
yeah proves nothing except that Indian currency was found in the pockets of dead ISIS fighters..thereby establishing a link between your country and the evil scum known as ISIS. Now imagine if they found pakistani currency there? caught again. Currency was also found in Miranshah after the battle for that town. Tons of the stuff..but proves nothing..i mean even if they found Indian passports and fake names you would say that..welcome to the land of the river denial..
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So you seriously believe a currency and passport shows that the government is supporting ISIS? If that is case, pretty much most European governments must be supporting ISIS. Including Saudi too. I hope you do come to that conclusion by using your own logic.

Because otherwise, all those ISIS videos with jihadis burning their various Western passports can only go to show these countries are complicit with ISIS, and the burning of passports and severing ties is what a Pakistani would call "false flag". :)
 
RWAC said:
Okay let's take that at face value...



So you seriously believe a currency and passport shows that the government is supporting ISIS? If that is case, pretty much most European governments must be supporting ISIS. Including Saudi too. I hope you do come to that conclusion by using your own logic.

Because otherwise, all those ISIS videos with jihadis burning their various Western passports can only go to show these countries are complicit with ISIS, and the burning of passports and severing ties is what a Pakistani would call "false flag". :)
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I said there was a link. As of now there is no evidence that Indian Muslims have joined ISIS. Unless you have any news items or links that prove Indian Muslims are in ISIS. But we do have items that show your terrorist loving national security adviser Ajit Doval has been visiting the region. And we all know what he thinks about co opting terrorists..

So explain to me what would indian currency be doing in the hands of non Indian ISIS??
 
the Great Khan said:
I said there was a link. As of now there is no evidence that Indian Muslims have joined ISIS. Unless you have any news items or links that prove Indian Muslims are in ISIS. But we do have items that show your terrorist loving national security adviser Ajit Doval has been visiting the region. And we all know what he thinks about co opting terrorists..

So explain to me what would indian currency be doing in the hands of non Indian ISIS??
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What items do you have that shows Doval has been visiting the region as NSA? Genuine question.

We do have some (although laudably very very few) Indian Muslims struck by the disease of Ummah. Here you go:

Indian Muslim who left for ISIS came back and was arrested:
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/alleged-is-recruit-arif-majeed-arrested-after-return-to-mumbai-705797

He is in custody of NIA:
http://zeenews.india.com/tags/arif-majeed.html

He stated he will rejoin ISIS if given a chance:
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/...rif-Majeed-tells-NIA/articleshow/45378548.cms

Also, if you wish to read further, you can Google requests to the Indian government by the parents of Arif Majeed and 3 other youth to bring their kids back.

Here is the father of Arif Mujeed thanking the Modi government for efforts to bring his son back:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-happy-on-his-return/articleshow/45328645.cms

So you probably now know why Doval was allegedly visiting the region. To get our currency back which Arif Mujeed left behind. :)

Maybe
 
RWAC said:
What items do you have that shows Doval has been visiting the region as NSA? Genuine question.

We do have some (although laudably very very few) Indian Muslims struck by the disease of Ummah. Here you go:

Indian Muslim who left for ISIS came back and was arrested:
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/alleged-is-recruit-arif-majeed-arrested-after-return-to-mumbai-705797

He is in custody of NIA:
http://zeenews.india.com/tags/arif-majeed.html

He stated he will rejoin ISIS if given a chance:
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/...rif-Majeed-tells-NIA/articleshow/45378548.cms

Also, if you wish to read further, you can Google requests to the Indian government by the parents of Arif Majeed and 3 other youth to bring their kids back.

Here is the father of Arif Mujeed thanking the Modi government for efforts to bring his son back:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-happy-on-his-return/articleshow/45328645.cms

So you probably now know why Doval was allegedly visiting the region. To get our currency back which Arif Mujeed left behind. :)

Maybe
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that could explain things , the Indian government needs to be transparent about any links from its country to ISIS whether its idiots going over to fight or any other shenanigans.
 
the Great Khan said:
that could explain things , the Indian government needs to be transparent about any links from its country to ISIS whether its idiots going over to fight or any other shenanigans.
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The media hushed it up and didn't make it a big deal out of it (as a news of this calibre usually does) - presumably to avoid attracting attention and to avoid the risk of other Muslim youth getting inspired to join ISIS too.

Our home minister and the NSA chief Doval has been going around making speeches stating that Indian Muslims will never join ISIS because they are pluralistic, peave loving, etc., all in an attempt to ensure this does not become a pattern.

Whatever you may call them, this government does realize that if Indian Muslims become exposed and attracted to such ideas, there will be trouble at home sooner or later.
 
So India got a reason to attack Pakistan now within an hour of attack. But well well only Pakistanis are conspiracy theorists [MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION] #Gurdaspur
 
Nothing will happen. All bluster. This is a) a message to India to back off in karachi etc or else b) amother clumsy Indian false flag c) a genuine homegrown insurgency.
 
the Great Khan said:
Nothing will happen. All bluster. This is a) a message to India to back off in karachi etc or else b) amother clumsy Indian false flag c) a genuine homegrown insurgency.
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SO you saying there is potential of this being a Pakistan sponsored activity (howeever unlikely it is though- more like either homegrown or diversionary tactics to throw heat off BJP in the parliament)...

Wrt false flag only thing is on one hand we are clever enough to pull off TTP and Baluch but then botch up somewhere else with school boy errors- dont stack up that.
 
[MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION]
one of our dear bhai said on the other thread that he trust credible neutral sources, i wonder will he believe this news?? :((
 
Beri daer kerdi meherbaan aate aate. [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] MQM raabta committee apne workers ke India jaane waali baat to maan gae bas ab training waali baat nae maan rahi.

MQM appeals to establishment for clemency

KARACHI: The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) has appealed to the ‘establishment’ to forgo what it called the bitter past and grant it clemency like the general amnesty offered to the ‘angry Baloch’ people.

“Just as clemency is being announced for the estranged Baloch people, the establishment should also heal the wounds of Mohajirs by forgetting past bitterness,” the MQM coordination committee said in a statement issued on Sunday.

Referring to reports about certain workers who had gone to India over 20 years ago and who allegedly confessed to having been trained there, the MQM said that any worker who had gone to the neighbouring country for saving his life after the launching of the June 19, 1992, army operation “did so without informing the party”.

“The MQM has nothing to do with the training of the people who had gone to India.”

It said that the MQM was a patriotic political party and it would continue to be unconditionally loyal to Pakistan.

Explaining the reasons behind some of its workers deciding to go to India, the statement said that after the June 1992 operation against the MQM “thousands of workers were forced to go to different parts of the country for saving their lives”.

It said that some workers had also gone to the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Australia, etc., where they sought asylum.

“Some went to India for saving their lives as they could not go to any other country. These MQM workers chose to go to India because they had family ties in India, and they thought that they would not face the hardship of homelessness and hunger.

“The workers who had gone to India for saving their lives did so without informing the MQM, and this cannot be called the policy of the MQM,” it said.

The MQM said it could not even think of any plan against the country.

The committee appealed to the establishment to review its policy on the basis of these facts and urged it to “stop isolating Mohajirs” from the mainstream.

About its appeal for general amnesty, the MQM said the establishment should heal the wounds of Mohajirs, forgetting the bitter past.

“Such a step would be in the interest of the nation and the country and the MQM will extend its fullest support to it,” the statement concluded.


http://www.dawn.com/news/1208277/mqm-appeals-to-establishment-for-clemency
 
^ LOL clemency.

How did India taken them in so willingly and easily if there was nothing in it for them? Certainly not humanitarian purposes
 
Slog said:
^ LOL clemency.

How did India taken them in so willingly and easily if there was nothing in it for them? Certainly not humanitarian purposes
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Even today Sindhi Karachites,mainly Hindus come to India for Asylum.There is a thread on that on TP.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Even today Sindhi Karachites,mainly Hindus come to India for Asylum.There is a thread on that on TP.
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they are Hindus so and even then they have to go through hell and high water to get asylum

For Mulsims it is impossible
 
cricketjoshila said:
How do you know that they were Muslims?
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MQM is a party which draws its support from many of the Muslim families who migrated from India in 1947. So its supporters are pretty much all Muslims of some sort. Just telling from experience here. Many from my family are/were MQM supporters too
 
MQM has .01 percent Hindus if any.

Most of those people were Muslims trained by india
 
Slog said:
MQM is a party which draws its support from many of the Muslim families who migrated from India in 1947. So its supporters are pretty much all Muslims of some sort. Just telling from experience here. Many from my family are/were MQM supporters too
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I hear that even the Hindu families of Karachi and Sindh mainly support MQM as they are not religious minded party.

Let me try and find out how many muslim Pakistanis got asylum in India.BTW its UK which gave asylum to Altaf and co.
 
cricketjoshila said:
I hear that even the Hindu families of Karachi and Sindh mainly support MQM as they are not religious minded party.

Let me try and find out how many muslim Pakistanis got asylum in India.BTW its UK which gave asylum to Altaf and co.
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most, if not all, Hindus in Sindh are ethnic Sindhis hailing from rural interior of the province and majority support PPP.
 
lol and more and more information keeps trickling in. The MQM is under the cosh and Inshallah they will either have to give their militant wing and traitors or face further restrictions!! What an excuse. "We went to get asylum in india!!" lol..
 
the Great Khan said:
lol and more and more information keeps trickling in. The MQM is under the cosh and Inshallah they will either have to give their militant wing and traitors or face further restrictions!! What an excuse. "We went to get asylum in india!!" lol..
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or koi jaga nae mili thi for asylum lol
 
Strike Rate said:
They are digging their own grave with stupid press conferences every other day.
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yup. But dont count them out yet. The people who back them still need them on the field. It seems the brits have decided to ditch altaf but not sure about the others who support him.
 
the Great Khan said:
yup. But dont count them out yet. The people who back them still need them on the field. It seems the brits have decided to ditch altaf but not sure about the others who support him.
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There were rumors that once Altaf is arrested senior leadership of MQM London will move to USA and open their main office there and will carry on the activities there and Nadeem Nusrat (Altaf second) will be the head. But in my view if we remove Altaf than MQM will be unable to survive under one flag and will be divided into many parts and the role of MQM outside Pakistan will end.
 
Strike Rate said:
There were rumors that once Altaf is arrested senior leadership of MQM London will move to USA and open their main office there and will carry on the activities there and Nadeem Nusrat (Altaf second) will be the head. But in my view if we remove Altaf than MQM will be unable to survive under one flag and will be divided into many parts and the role of MQM outside Pakistan will end.
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Yeah the Pakistani half will start to become more independent. The key is to cut off the foreign party from its leaders in Pakistan.
 
lol a MQM leader appeal Army Chief Raheel Shareef to please give 15 minutes to Altaf bhai and listen to his idea of how to save Pakistan :)) these MQM guys have seriously lost their mind :)))

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MQM distances itself from ‘India trained’ workers

KARACHI: Calling itself a patriotic political party of Pakistan, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement’s (MQM) Rabita (coordination) Committee on Sunday distanced itself from those workers who it said had gone to India following the 1992 operation against the party.

“These workers, who had gone to India for saving their lives, did so without informing the MQM and this cannot be called the policy of the MQM,” said the committee, in an ‘important policy statement’ issued here today.

“The MQM has nothing to do with the training of these people who had gone to India,” it added.

The statement comes against the backdrop of ongoing crackdown on criminals and terrorists in Karachi by Rangers and police.

The party said thousands of MQM workers were forced to go to different parts of the country for saving their lives after the ‘state’s operation in 1992’, adding that some headed to foreign countries where they obtained asylum.

“The countries where the MQM workers headed include USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Middle East states and other countries of the world. Some went to India for saving their lives as they could not go to any other country.

“These MQM workers chose to go to India because they had family ties in India, and they thought that they will not face hardships of homelessness and hunger.”

Rabita Committee further said that MQM was a party formed by descendants of the founders of Pakistan and it cannot even think about any plan against the country.

The party appealed to the ‘establishment’ to review everything in the light of facts by casting aside ‘emotions and use of force’ as it would be in the larger interest of the country.

“Just as clemency is being announced for the estranged Baloch people who are highly praiseworthy, the establishment should also heal the wounds of Muhajirs by forgetting past bitterness,” it said.

The MQM committee went on to say that such a step would be in the interest of the nation and the country, and vowed to extend its fullest support to it.

http://www.geo.tv/article-198109-MQM-distances-itself-with-India-trained-workers
 
Hypocrites, first send them for training and when they are caught then abandon them.

A lol to the story ‘workers who went to save their lives’.
 
Deosai said:
The MQM shoots itself in the foot with it's dumb Pro-Indian statements
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Anytime a Pak party gives a Pro-Indian statements is automatically bad.

Same for any Indian party or leader who gives one pro-pak statement becomes a wannabe Pakistani.
 
I am still looking for credible proof of Indian involvement in MQM. Barring some pictures posted in this thread which could be anything, it proves nothing.
 
There's some theory going on which actually has me convinced for the first time that mqm are raw/Indian agents atleast as far as the very top cadre is concerned

It's just too convenient that when the entire country's attention is focussed on the Indian atrocities in Kashmir and when the entire country is more or less on same page regarding it, this mqm drama comes up and now takes away all attention from the issue

Apparently same thing used to happen in 90s. Whenever there was some media coverage and talks regarding Kashmir the MQM mafia would conveniently be involved in unrest in Karachi taking away the spotlight from Kashmir
 
Lurker_Ind said:
Anytime a Pak party gives a Pro-Indian statements is automatically bad.

Same for any Indian party or leader who gives one pro-pak statement becomes a wannabe Pakistani.
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Apart from PPP a lot have given pro India statements over the years actually.

To be honest I don't think anything wrong with it either
 
Slog said:
There's some theory going on which actually has me convinced for the first time that mqm are raw/Indian agents atleast as far as the very top cadre is concerned

It's just too convenient that when the entire country's attention is focussed on the Indian atrocities in Kashmir and when the entire country is more or less on same page regarding it, this mqm drama comes up and now takes away all attention from the issue

Apparently same thing used to happen in 90s. Whenever there was some media coverage and talks regarding Kashmir the MQM mafia would conveniently be involved in unrest in Karachi taking away the spotlight from Kashmir
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Step one. The next time elections are held, don't go along with the whole cityfolk to vote for this party.

Sounds simple, doesn't it? But there appears to be a lot of slip between the cup and the lip in this game.
 
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