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Pakistan's weak batting line-up in T20Is

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We were lucky to have gotten away with it in the 1st T20I, thanks to a blinder from Rizwan.

Saj's comments below give us some idea of why this could be but lack of big hitters and people who can take the game to the end is very worrying indeed.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Uninspiring batting from Pakistan (apart from Rizwan). Not unexpected when you have guys with a career T20 strike-rate of 125 and 121 batting at the key positions of number 4 and 5 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1360592072068263937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Product of the PSL. Useless even at the semi International arena.
 
Faheem is head and shoulders above Talat Iftikhar uncle Khushdil combined.
 
Babar, Haider, Talat, Ifti, Khushdil, Nawaz all offered absolutely nothing today.
 
Need to bring back Mohammed Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Umar Akmal, Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan. They are at least better than these 'youngsters'.
 
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Product of the PSL. Useless even at the semi International arena.

They aren't the product of the PSL, they aren't good enough for that either. They only get picked because they are Pakistani, can only presume there are no other Pakistani batsmen who can score quickly in domestic cricket. .

The likes of Haider, Khushdil and Iftikhar actually look worse than Faheem, and he's not even a specialist batsman.
 
How do these batsmen pass the selection eye test.
How Azam khan doesn't make this lineup ill never know.
Amir Yamin is a better bat than all the garbage they have given chances to purely as a batsman alone.
 
Imad Wasim will be back, because his omission was planned (as he wanted to spend time with his family). Hafeez will be back as well, so the team is not that bad. Replace Rauf with Hassan Ali, and it will be much better. We defo need to kick out happyheart and Ifti Chacha
 
Pakistani fans and their typical reactions. Relax its only T20 cricket SA is also here to win.

I think its a good team just too many all rounders playing.

Hafeez and Sharjeel can make Pakistan a good T20 team.
 
Babar Azam has been a major let down. These guys will bat a lot better if Babar is firing and scoring runs
 
Just shows the over-reliance on Mohammad Hafeez at the moment.

Too many average batsmen with poor strike-rates who seem to lack the awareness that singles are also important in T20s.
 
Babar Azam has been a major let down. These guys will bat a lot better if Babar is firing and scoring runs

Why do these guys need Babar firing to perform? Babar will be back, don't need to worry about that, but these other losers who are trying to prove themselves need to show something. Babar can't take responsibility for their rotten performances.
 
Babar Azam has been a major let down. These guys will bat a lot better if Babar is firing and scoring runs

I put this down to him moving to GN. That helmet and those bat stickers just don’t give him that swag. He needs to go back to the Shrey Helmets and the HS. He’ll back in no time!
 
Hussain talat is not a t20 player. When will we stop picking people for the wrong format. Have always maintained that khushdil is not international material at all. Ifti is the same. Its time to give Azam Khan a go.
 
Need to bring back Mohammed Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Umar Akmal, Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan. They are at least better than these 'youngsters'.

Malik and Hafeez will be back for world t20 for sure. It's an embarrasing state of affairs that we remain reliant on such expired players but we need to accept Pakistan for the mediocre cricketing nation that it is.

We can only hope they save us from humilation too. They're only there to make sure we don't lose to teams like Bangladesh and Afghanistan otherwise morale would slip really low. The result of the rest of our matches will be a foregone conclusion and there's no way we're winning anything under Misbah the clown.
 
PSL is responsible for churning out such rubbish.

Mediocre players bash around Mickey Mouse bowlers in the PSL which lands them a place in the international Pakistan cricket squad. We have not managed to unearth quality players from the PSL like how India has been able to through its international T20 league. Not to mention, there is a serious dearth of talent in Pakistan.
 
Our obsession with trying to find a hitter in middle/lower order has made us try everyone we could.
Ifti - failed
Khushdil - failed
Asif Ali - failed

Faheem is the only one that's really done anything of note and that's quite recent.
 
Pakistan is playing with second string team currently so the judgement of batting is unnecessary. They are playing conservatively because the batting depth is not there. The main team will have batting depth.

Babar, Rizwan, Haider, Hafeez, Shadab, Asif/Iftikhar/khushdil/Danish, Faheem, Imad, Hasan, Qadir, Shaheen

This team have the batting depth and will bat more freely.
 
Chachu Ifti, Khushdil, Talat.

What a lineup. I bet they send shivers down the opposition,
 
Things will get better once we get our mainstays back.

At WC it will look like:

Sharjeel Khan/Haider Ali
Mohammad Rizwan
Babar Azam
Mohammad Hafeez
Shoaib Malik
Asif Ali
Shadab
Imad
Faheem

Not that bad eh?
 
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Babar Azam has been a major let down. These guys will bat a lot better if Babar is firing and scoring runs

Absolute nonsense post.

Last I checked, that is not how cricket works.
 
Malik and Hafeez will be back for world t20 for sure. It's an embarrasing state of affairs that we remain reliant on such expired players but we need to accept Pakistan for the mediocre cricketing nation that it is.

We can only hope they save us from humilation too. They're only there to make sure we don't lose to teams like Bangladesh and Afghanistan otherwise morale would slip really low. The result of the rest of our matches will be a foregone conclusion and there's no way we're winning anything under Misbah the clown.

Malik won't be any better than these younger players.
 
Misbah doesn't understand white ball cricket, he's never going to lead us to any success.
 
What a sad state of affair. You can't do much as they are the best performing youngsters

Bunch of losers. The lack of batting talent is so frightening to see
 
Malik is history. His game against Pacers is horrible. He gets out in big games and rarely gives match winning performances.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You aren't going to win many T20Is if your numbers 2 to 6 perform as follows:<br><br>5 off 4 balls<br>10 off 11 balls<br>3 off 7 balls<br>20 off 21 balls<br>15 off 18 balls<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1360624060074520576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Disappointed by Haider Ali’s performance. I was expecting him to do way better than this. Babar captaincy was also a big let down as well.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Number of dot balls in Pakistan's innings against South Africa:<br><br>1st T20I 42<br>2nd T20I 46<br><br>88 dot balls which is 14.4 overs in total<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1360625425077182469?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Domestic performers and youngsters are just unable to lift their game upto international cricket standards as of now.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Number of dot balls in Pakistan's innings against South Africa:<br><br>1st T20I 42<br>2nd T20I 46<br><br>88 dot balls which is 14.4 overs in total<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1360625425077182469?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Well I've already said they lack IQ..
 
I'm surprised they didn't select Agha Salman instead of Talat
 
Hype around some of our players like haider Ali is ridiculous

Technically awful. Shot selection awful.

Plays a few fancy shots and fans get experience way too early
 
Why on this earth was the Hafeez situation handled so badly that he ended up not being selected by accident? Such a joke!

This team would be a much better one with Hafeez in the middle. We also need Sharjeel, possibly Azam Khan, Shadab, Imad and Hasan Ali.

Several guys need the boot including Ifti - for Gods sake when will we learn!! Talat is also nothing special. Kushdil needs to bat higher up if he is to play and there are serious questions over his ability to play spin.
 
How do these batsmen pass the selection eye test.
How Azam khan doesn't make this lineup ill never know.
Amir Yamin is a better bat than all the garbage they have given chances to purely as a batsman alone.

Yaar, stop this individual player praising. Unless you come out of this dilution you will always get disappointment. Azam khan is not AB, neither a special talent. To be honest Pakistan batting talent is no more than any other major cricketing country's school batting. So don't keep your expectation high. Nothing has change so far and will not change in near future as far as batting is concern. Unless a dramatic change in method of coaching and coaches are changed at grass root level. You need highly qualified coaches with good technique right from school cricket.
 
Yaar, stop this individual player praising. Unless you come out of this dilution you will always get disappointment. Azam khan is not AB, neither a special talent. To be honest Pakistan batting talent is no more than any other major cricketing country's school batting. So don't keep your expectation high. Nothing has change so far and will not change in near future as far as batting is concern. Unless a dramatic change in method of coaching and coaches are changed at grass root level. You need highly qualified coaches with good technique right from school cricket.

He is not Ab but i can see that he has power and ability so he is someone you can atleast try and develop along with some others.
You have to maximize resources until we get the changes at the grassroots
 
Imad Wasim will be back, because his omission was planned (as he wanted to spend time with his family). Hafeez will be back as well, so the team is not that bad. Replace Rauf with Hassan Ali, and it will be much better. We defo need to kick out happyheart and Ifti Chacha
Couldn’t agree more there.

I dont like the look of Babar and Rizwan opening. One of them needs to move down the order
 
He is not Ab but i can see that he has power and ability so he is someone you can atleast try and develop along with some others.
You have to maximize resources until we get the changes at the grassroots

Power was not the order of the day.
The ability to assess the situation and rotate the strike, picking up ones and twos rather then trying to smash it out of the park.

We could have scored another 30-40 runs had we used our brains...
 
Watch other teams bat...
They pick up the singles and then what looks like a poor over with only 4 or 5 scored suddenly becomes an 8 or 10 run over with the last ball going for a boundary.

We play 4 or 5 dots, hit a boundary and still only end up scoring 6 or 7 in that over.
Then we put pressure on ourselves and try to go big.
 
Imad Wasim will be back, because his omission was planned (as he wanted to spend time with his family). Hafeez will be back as well, so the team is not that bad. Replace Rauf with Hassan Ali, and it will be much better. We defo need to kick out happyheart and Ifti Chacha

Don't pitch your hope high on Hasan Ali, he's hit or miss kind of a player. I agree with you on Ifti, He's not a international cricket material just a domestic bully, khushdil is also one dimensional player Simon Duwel agree with me a legside hog. Infact I was very disappointed with Hussain Talat he seems to have a good technique but mentally weak. Could not handle pressure in today's game.
 
Hype around some of our players like haider Ali is ridiculous

Technically awful. Shot selection awful.

Plays a few fancy shots and fans get experience way too early

This is the blueprint to getting selected as a batsman in Pakistan. A flashy 20-30 and you're in!

Just compare that to India where they want several daddy hundreds at FC level before they'll even take a look at you. It says it all.
 
Disappointed by Haider Ali’s performance. I was expecting him to do way better than this. Babar captaincy was also a big let down as well.

Exactly, These young up coming cricketer seems brain dumb, No cricketing awareness & knowledge. Repeating same mistake again and again is criminal. If you see the pattern of his dismissal in 1st game and today is same.
 
Pakistan is playing with second string team currently so the judgement of batting is unnecessary. They are playing conservatively because the batting depth is not there. The main team will have batting depth.

Babar, Rizwan, Haider, Hafeez, Shadab, Asif/Iftikhar/khushdil/Danish, Faheem, Imad, Hasan, Qadir, Shaheen

This team have the batting depth and will bat more freely.

Babar(c)
Rizwan(w)
Haider
Hafeez
Sharjeel
Azam
Shadab
Imad/Usaman
Faheem
Hasan
Shaheen

Best Available Team
 
Disappointed by Haider Ali’s performance. I was expecting him to do way better than this. Babar captaincy was also a big let down as well.

Never understood the hype around Haider, only ever saw him bullying weak bowlers in the PSL, but still hoping he will show me something to justify the hype. The low IQ comment made earlier by Immy69 seems to apply here as well, out to a really dumb shot today.
 
Not many teams will do well with a middle-order of Talat, Iftikhar and Khushdil. Neither will this lame MO ever represent Pakistan in an important tourney. Although it is really sad how we need both Hafeez and Malik back in the line-up in 2021 :facepalm:
 
Babar and Rizwan are very good at the top of the order. The game was lost by the middle-order today. Need to find some big hitters to bat at 4, 5 and 6.
 
Too many similar players in the middle order, all needing time to settle in, work the ball around and play dot balls before they attack.

It's a recipe for disaster.
 
In my opinion only proper test batsmen should be allowed to play t20. This power-hitter stuff is non-sense. Haider Ali, Khushdil etc have to first prove themselves in test cricket then they should be allowed in t20s.
 
Hussain Talat is good for our pitiful standards but he is misfit in a T20 lineup that already has Babar and Rizwan at the top of the order.

He is forced to manufacture shots and improve but he does not have the skill for that.

Pakistan should look at him as a potential middle-order player for the ODI and Test teams but at the moment he does not fit into the T20I setup.

In reality though this guy is going to fizzle out soon. He doesn’t seem to have any friends in the media and any fan club. He is a bit of a loner and and is not rated by anyone. He has no backing.

He doesn’t make any headlines in PSL either and it is hard to remember which franchise he plays for these days. Last I remember, he was at United but I am not sure if he is still there.
 
Rizwan
Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Azam Khan(if fit)
Faheem
Imad
Shadab
Hasan Ali
Hasnain/Wahab
Shaheen Afridi

This is the best possible line up
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Number of dot balls in Pakistan's innings against South Africa:<br><br>1st T20I 42<br>2nd T20I 46<br><br>88 dot balls which is 14.4 overs in total<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1360625425077182469?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Rizwan played a whole over (6 balls) as dot in PP :facepalm:
 
Pakistan’s weak batting line up in T20Is
Pakistan’s weak batting line up in ODIs
Pakistan’s weak batting line up in TESTs

Pakistan’s weak bowling line up in T20Is
Pakistan’s weak bowling line up in ODIs
Pakistan’s weak bowling line up in TESTs
 
Never understood the hype around Haider, only ever saw him bullying weak bowlers in the PSL, but still hoping he will show me something to justify the hype. The low IQ comment made earlier by Immy69 seems to apply here as well, out to a really dumb shot today.

The shot was on he just didnt find the gap.
 
Mediocre players bash around Mickey Mouse bowlers in the PSL which lands them a place in the international Pakistan cricket squad. We have not managed to unearth quality players from the PSL like how India has been able to through its international T20 league.

But everyone says PSL's bowling is better than IPL's? :virat
 
The battling lineup gets to chase for the first time this series. Interesting changes, we are a batsman less in this game, so really can't see these guys chasing upwards of 170.
 
Same issues again. We hit a 4 in the first over yet only get 5 from it. SA hit a 4 in the first over and got 8 from it
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A question that several of the Pakistani batsmen in the T20I squad should be asking Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan soon "Yousuf bhai, Younis bhai, what is a left-arm wrist-spinner and what do they bowl?" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1360981081269362689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2021</a></blockquote>
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If we don’t have better players than Hussain Talat, then we have a big problem, really. He looks awful.
 
They've been saved by South African bowlers inexperience in bowling under the dew today.

Add to that some useful hitting by Nawaz and Hassan Ali, or this could have been another embarrassing loss.
 
To be fair, we did not have shadab and Hafeez in the batting line up.

Khushdil, Iftikhar, and Asf were experimented for the bottom hitter. All three failed,
 
Misbah idiot had Shaheen shah before Usman and Zahid when they are better batsman
 
They've been saved by South African bowlers inexperience in bowling under the dew today.

Add to that some useful hitting by Nawaz and Hassan Ali, or this could have been another embarrassing loss.

South Africa looked like below average team. An average team would have won this match against Pakistan.
 
Need to absolutely avoid tried and tested failures no matter how many runs they rack up in domestic (Hussain talat, ifti chacha, asif ali etc).

This should be our team going forward:

1. Rizwan
2. Haider Ali
3. Babar
4. Hafeez
5. Azam khan
6. Danish Aziz
7. Faheem
8. Hassan Ali
9. Usman qadir
10. Shaheen
11. Some pacer/ Zahid Mehmood (depending on conditions)
 
Need to absolutely avoid tried and tested failures no matter how many runs they rack up in domestic (Hussain talat, ifti chacha, asif ali etc).

This should be our team going forward:

1. Rizwan
2. Haider Ali
3. Babar
4. Hafeez
5. Azam khan
6. Danish Aziz
7. Faheem
8. Hassan Ali
9. Usman qadir
10. Shaheen
11. Some pacer/ Zahid Mehmood (depending on conditions)
PCB should include the bolded part as part of job responsibility of selector with any selector deviating from it will be fired on spot. Then we will not see TTFs anymore and new talent will come up.
 
Need to absolutely avoid tried and tested failures no matter how many runs they rack up in domestic (Hussain talat, ifti chacha, asif ali etc).

This should be our team going forward:

1. Rizwan
2. Haider Ali
3. Babar
4. Hafeez
5. Azam khan
6. Danish Aziz
7. Faheem
8. Hassan Ali
9. Usman qadir
10. Shaheen
11. Some pacer/ Zahid Mehmood (depending on conditions)

We were told that ifti should play because he scored against Australia (doesn't matter how he performed afterwards).
 
Pakistan’s weak batting line up in T20Is
Pakistan’s weak batting line up in ODIs
Pakistan’s weak batting line up in TESTs

Pakistan’s weak bowling line up in T20Is
Pakistan’s weak bowling line up in ODIs
Pakistan’s weak bowling line up in TESTs

Forgot to add poor fielding. And you could throw in poor fitness, coaching, selection.
 
Very poor middle order right now in T-20. A man who is probably 42 is our best middle order batsman. And i hate to say it but we might need Malik back for the T-20 world cup.
 
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