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I came across this article and i believe the demands from the tribal leader are genuine and shows the lack of interest from our PM towards the security of general public, especially the people from Baluchistan and FATA. How inhumane is it to compensate the loss of precious lives with money?

Tribal elders reject PM's compensation package for Parachinar bombing victims


Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Thursday announced Rs1 million as compensation for each family of the victims of the recent Parachinar bombing attack, which claimed at least 72 lives.

The prime minister also announced Rs0.5 million for each person injured in the blasts, according to a statement issued from the Prime Minister House. The premier has already issued directions to Governor Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Zafar Iqbal Jhagra in this regard, read the statement.

However, protesting tribal elders have rejected the offered compensation, saying that they need to be recognised as human beings first. The compensation was announced six days after the bombing.

A large number of people have been holding a sit-in at Shaheed Park, Parachinar for the last seven days to protest what they see as government inaction after the bombings. Several other protest demonstrations have also been held across the country, seeking justice and compensation for the victims' families.

On Monday, the prime minister had cut short a trip to London to visit Bahawalpur, where 150 people had lost their lives after the spilled fuel they were collecting from an overturned oil tanker caught fire.

The premier had announced government jobs for the injured and the heirs of the deceased, along with Rs1 million in aid for each of those injured and Rs2mn each for the heirs of those killed.

The protesters have been demanding jobs and compensation on a par with what Prime Minister Sharif announced for the people killed in Bahawalpur.

The protesters had also demanded a visit from the army chief and the federal interior minister. The army chief had reportedly attempted to fly to Parachinar, before being forced to turn back due to inclement weather.

Parachinar, with a population of more than 50,000, has been under a strict security quarantine for quite some time. Army and paramilitary personnel have set up checkpoints on all routes leading to the town and visitors and vehicles go through extensive search and identification process.

The twin blasts had occurred in the Turi Market near Tal Adda, where a bus terminal is also located. The explosions targeted people shopping in the area and those heading out of the city ahead of Eid-ul-Fitr, administration officials said.

The second explosion had targeted rescuers and bystanders who rushed to aid those who had been hurt in the first blast.

On March 31 this year, the city had suffered a similar tragedy when 23 people were killed in a car bomb blast near an Imam*bargah at midday. More than 70 others were wounded in the attack. Another person had died later after security forces opened fire on a crowd trying to hold a demonstration in front of the political agent’s office in protest against increasing terrorist attacks.

In January, 25 people were killed and 87 others suffered injuries when a bomb went off during peak business hours at a crowded vegetable market in the city. In what appeared to be a sign of growing cooperation among extremists, two banned groups had come forward to claim the deadly assault, with one describing the incident as a suicide attack.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1342113/t...sation-package-for-parachinar-bombing-victims
 
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You are very right. This trend of compensation is nothing more than political gimmick to score some populist points. Consider for a minute that the economic cost of compensation package for Bahawalpur tragedy would reach around 400 to 500 millions. This amount would have significantly contributed towards establishment of a Burn Unit at Victoria Hospital.

Also if I am right, the awarding of Government Jobs to the victims' heirs is illegal and unconstitutional, as no government job can be allowed to any person without competitive process. These jobs would be without any due merit or process and would be unjust to other deserving people.
 
Bhai the truth is a very small % of this announced money goes to these people. Mostly they ask the people to sign a paper give them 10-15k and keep the rest. The reason the announce such big rewards is they are pocketing themselves.
 
There are conflicting news about compensation settlement of policeman killing by MP in Balochistan as well. The MP ran over poor guy controlling the traffic and didn't even attempt to stop and seemed clearly drunk.

It would be a disaster if he gets away by paying money.
 
I came across this article and i believe the demands from the tribal leader are genuine and shows the lack of interest from our PM towards the security of general public, especially the people from Baluchistan and FATA. How inhumane is it to compensate the loss of precious lives with money?



https://www.dawn.com/news/1342113/t...sation-package-for-parachinar-bombing-victims


So ? What should Civilian Government do ?

It is alleged that they ask Establishment to Crush these Terrorist Outfits who kill Shia's and also assist forces to counter Baloch Nationalists.


Now what should Nawaz Sharif do ? Fire those at high commands who don't listen to him ? And welcome Martial Law ?


Read the Leaked (True/False) news which Created Dawn Gate.


Those who consider terrorist outfits who Massacre Shia & Ahmadi in Pakistan as State Assets in Balochistan & Kashmir are the ones responsible for all this Mess. But nobody will dare speak a word against them.
 
So ? What should Civilian Government do ?

It is alleged that they ask Establishment to Crush these Terrorist Outfits who kill Shia's and also assist forces to counter Baloch Nationalists.


Now what should Nawaz Sharif do ? Fire those at high commands who don't listen to him ? And welcome Martial Law ?


Read the Leaked (True/False) news which Created Dawn Gate.


Those who consider terrorist outfits who Massacre Shia & Ahmadi in Pakistan as State Assets in Balochistan & Kashmir are the ones responsible for all this Mess. But nobody will dare speak a word against them.

Why not just tell the nation i can't do anything because nothing is in my control not even the agencies and thn resign and go home...
 
[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] You got a point. I guess the Army is equally responsible for all this if not more. It's a high time we start to raise our voices against our corrupt institutes instead of blindly defending them.
 
Why not just tell the nation i can't do anything because nothing is in my control not even the agencies and thn resign and go home...


And the next One replacing him will have magic wand in his hand and eveything will be perfect.


What you want is exactly what the mighty want and He isn't there to fulfil there wishes.


Jinhoun ne Half Uthaaya hai wattan ki matti ka unka koi kaam dhanda nai hai ? Kis baat kj tankhoa letay hein ? 100 arab budget kis kaam ka hai ? Hakumatein giranay ? Tv Channels control kerne ka ?
 
And the next One replacing him will have magic wand in his hand and eveything will be perfect.


What you want is exactly what the mighty want and He isn't there to fulfil there wishes.


Jinhoun ne Half Uthaaya hai wattan ki matti ka unka koi kaam dhanda nai hai ? Kis baat kj tankhoa letay hein ? 100 arab budget kis kaam ka hai ? Hakumatein giranay ? Tv Channels control kerne ka ?

Next one ko chora bhai her bande ne apna apna jawab or hisaab dena he so why not he resign and go home ager iske hath saaf hen?
 
[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] You got a point. I guess the Army is equally responsible for all this if not more. It's a high time we start to raise our voices against our corrupt institutes instead of blindly defending them.


When it comes to Un-Natural killing of Any Homo Sapien in Pakistan especially through terrorist attacks than I don't care if PM is Imran, Nawaz, Zardari, Gillani, Siraj, Fazal, Achakzai, Fazal or Sherpao or someone else.......

My point is who is going to disarm terrorist outfits ?

Who is going to kill terrorists ?


We have pseudo-democracy where Civilian government has to leak News of National Security Meeting to tell Nation that institutes under Gov do not listen to Gov.


When the Gov wants to fix institutes than Martial Law reigns in and rubbish cases with zero substance like Plane Hijacking are made against PM.


These Statements of " We will hunt down the terrorists "
" We will expose terrorists " are nothing and are just given to fool the Minorities. Especially to fool those who genocide is being done.


I support IK & PTI but I think and I believe than Nawaz Raisani's lead PPP government was overthrown because of his Anti Establishment stance on Reko Diq. How was it overthrown ? My causing Massacre of more than hundred inmocent Hazara community Shia Muslims of Pakistan at that time. Lashkar e Jhangvi was the terror outfit behind it.


Entire nation blamed & abused whom ? Zardari, Bhutto, Gillani & Raisani.


Until when we will Fool Pakistanis ?

[MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] [MENTION=139075]Hadi Rizvi[/MENTION]
 
Next one ko chora bhai her bande ne apna apna jawab or hisaab dena he so why not he resign and go home ager iske hath saaf hen?


Did Shia killing in Balochistan stop by Raisani leaving CM post ?

The terrorists and those behind them want Shia's to be massacred so that Sharif resigns ?


If tomorow Lashkar e Jhangvi and those backing them massacre 150 Shia or 150 Ahmadi or 150 Christians and IK is PM would you want IK to leave/resign ?


State Machinery is of what Use and what is their duty ?
 
Disgusting. [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] - What should the Civilian Govt. do? I'll tell you what they should do.

They need to assure that the incessant sufferers and victims of bombings/terror are given security. They need to make sure that the people of Parachinar are given equal security. They need to make sure that people who become victims of daily terrorism and crime are not only given blood money like beggars but also justice.
 
Did Shia killing in Balochistan stop by Raisani leaving CM post ?

The terrorists and those behind them want Shia's to be massacred so that Sharif resigns ?


If tomorow Lashkar e Jhangvi and those backing them massacre 150 Shia or 150 Ahmadi or 150 Christians and IK is PM would you want IK to leave/resign ?


State Machinery is of what Use and what is their duty ?

Well i was sitting there i will select to go home instead of sitting there keeping my eyes closed making billions without questioning the action of hidden forces so that they don't question my acts. If there are dark forces at play here thn he is equally responsible don't make him look like an angel.
 
Disgusting. [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] - What should the Civilian Govt. do? I'll tell you what they should do.

They need to assure that the incessant sufferers and victims of bombings/terror are given security. They need to make sure that the people of Parachinar are given equal security. They need to make sure that people who become victims of daily terrorism and crime are not only given blood money like beggars but also justice.


Read my posts where I quoted WebGuru & Azzuri Bhaee.


Your patents instruct you, your coach instructs/orders you. If you fail to obey than we cannot damn your parents or Coach. You Yes You are responsible not they.


We live in an era of pseudo-democracy & we expect things to done on pattern of real democracy.
 
Well i was sitting there i will select to go home instead of sitting there keeping my eyes closed making billions without questioning the action of hidden forces so that they don't question my acts. If there are dark forces at play here thn he is equally responsible don't make him look like an angel.


Let him be convicted and jailed. We will get back all the looted money. Until than He is only getting legal lawful pay/previlages.

We are discussing Massacre of people and role of Gov in it.
 
Mods please update this thread and title. Parachinar people have rejected the compensation money - https://tribune.com.pk/story/144609...llion-compensation-parachinar-attack-victims/. [MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION]

They don't want money. They want justice. Can money bring back the lives of those who were martyred? What can money even do for them? This has become the norm for these people. A few days down the road, another such travesty will take place again in Parachinar. They want JUSTICE. Not revenge, but justice. Hunt down the people responsible and make sure it doesn't happen again.
 
Compensation is useless if you don't give people security in the first place. No amount of money can replace those lives lost.

Pakistan government instead of making a show over compensation should use the money to spend on improving policing (which is woefully undermanned and underequipped), intelligence gathering and other counter-terrorism infrastructure.
 
Let him be convicted and jailed. We will get back all the looted money. Until than He is only getting legal lawful pay/previlages.

We are discussing Massacre of people and role of Gov in it.

And let me get back to my earlier post why he is sitting there? instead of going home if he can't do anything? The corruption part in my posts only came because that's the reason he is sitting there without questioning the actions of others because in punjabi term he is a "kaana" himself so can't question others.
 
Only solution is to force Nawaz out by any means. This man will keep bleeding Pakistan and it's people. He is heavily supported by outside powers like India in particular. Nawaz didn't even bother visiting the bereaved families instead is throwing money at them as if lives of the deceased don't matter. The election's or even a military coup can't come fast enough.
 
Ironic really.

Because if the govt starts to care more tribal elders wont mean a thing.


Didnt govt merge fata to a proper province(kpk), atleast thats a start and will take time aswell.
 
Disgusting. [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] - What should the Civilian Govt. do? I'll tell you what they should do.

They need to assure that the incessant sufferers and victims of bombings/terror are given security. They need to make sure that the people of Parachinar are given equal security. They need to make sure that people who become victims of daily terrorism and crime are not only given blood money like beggars but also justice.

But in the past didnt FATA give protrction to criminals?

You know once you off the road, pakistani law cannot prosecute you. You are under the protection of the tribal areas
 
You are very right. This trend of compensation is nothing more than political gimmick to score some populist points. Consider for a minute that the economic cost of compensation package for Bahawalpur tragedy would reach around 400 to 500 millions. This amount would have significantly contributed towards establishment of a Burn Unit at Victoria Hospital.

Also if I am right, the awarding of Government Jobs to the victims' heirs is illegal and unconstitutional, as no government job can be allowed to any person without competitive process. These jobs would be without any due merit or process and would be unjust to other deserving people.

The jobs are grade 16 jobs. Big deal. It doenst matter if those jobs are given or not. Those are clerk level jobs and you barely make 10k
 
Ironic really.

Because if the govt starts to care more tribal elders wont mean a thing.


Didnt govt merge fata to a proper province(kpk), atleast thats a start and will take time aswell.

The merge process will take 5 to 10 years and will start from 2019 if i am not wrong.
 
The jobs are grade 16 jobs. Big deal. It doenst matter if those jobs are given or not. Those are clerk level jobs and you barely make 10k


In which Pakistan you Live ?

Where in Pakistan Grade 16 gets 10k pay ?
 
I dont knowm they probably make less. But no where above minimum which is 15k


Approximate Gross Pay of Grade 16 in 2014 was 26166. Add 45 % increment on basic Pay in last 3 years to get the Current Carry Home Salary of BPS 16.
 
Approximate Gross Pay of Grade 16 in 2014 was 26166. Add 45 % increment on basic Pay in last 3 years to get the Current Carry Home Salary of BPS 16.

So the jobs that are given start from grade 12? Because all i know is that they are clerk level jobs
 
So the jobs that are given start from grade 12? Because all i know is that they are clerk level jobs


Depends upon the scale from which they start.

Furthermore some Semi Government or Autonomous Organisations like OGDC, PPL etc have seperate payscales. There even drivers are getting 60-80K pay.
 
Depends upon the scale from which they start.

Furthermore some Semi Government or Autonomous Organisations like OGDC, PPL etc have seperate payscales. There even drivers are getting 60-80K pay.

Fair enough. Semi govt should give that much atleast
 
If only Parachinar was in the outskirts of Lahore. An army battalion would be stationed to safeguard it. The PM and all the ministers would be going everyday for ta'aziyat and lip service.


Sad state of affairs. The lives of all Pakistanis should be equal but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
If only Parachinar was in the outskirts of Lahore. An army battalion would be stationed to safeguard it. The PM and all the ministers would be going everyday for ta'aziyat and lip service.


Sad state of affairs. The lives of all Pakistanis should be equal but that doesn't seem to be the case.

the army already safe guards parachinar, but it seems like it safe guards terrorists in safely doing terror attacks and then escaping
 
the army already safe guards parachinar, but it seems like it safe guards terrorists in safely doing terror attacks and then escaping

I am afraid it's going to be hard to protect Parachinar in upcoming days because ISIS already captured Tora Bora area of Afghanistan and Parachinar is the closest point in Pakistan to Kabul and borders on the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan.
 
If only Parachinar was in the outskirts of Lahore. An army battalion would be stationed to safeguard it. The PM and all the ministers would be going everyday for ta'aziyat and lip service.


Sad state of affairs. The lives of all Pakistanis should be equal but that doesn't seem to be the case.


Since FATA is under federal government hence PM ko jootay perhein ge if goes there.
 
I am afraid it's going to be hard to protect Parachinar in upcoming days because ISIS already captured Tora Bora area of Afghanistan and Parachinar is the closest point in Pakistan to Kabul and borders on the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan.


Don't worry our Establishment is anti ISIS so we will fix and Crush ISIS at every oppurtunity.
 
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