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PCB backtracks at ICC request after earlier boycott stance — agrees to play India in T20 World Cup group match: Right move or compromise?

How do you view Pakistan’s backtrack after ICC’s request and regional board concerns?

  • Right move — cricket must rise above politics

    Votes: 11 28.2%

  • Wrong move — principle was compromised

    Votes: 28 71.8%
  • Total voters
    39
cricketjoshila said:
East pakistsnis got nothing, striaght out of the wc
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Are you sure? :yk :inti​

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BCB relieved as no penalty is imposed after World Cup boycott​


Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) officials expressed their relief on Tuesday over no penalty being imposed on them by the International Cricket Council (ICC) for boycotting the ongoing Twenty20 World Cup.

Since Bangladesh decided not to take part in the global tournament, everyone in the country's cricketing landscape was skeptical over whether the ICC would sanction a penalty on them as they are expected to incur financial loss due to their absence.

However, the ICC announced on February 9 that there will be no financial, sporting or administrative penalty on the BCB in relation to boycotting the World Cup. The ICC agreed to take a lenient view of Bangladesh, despite their refusal to play in India and had to be replaced in the marquee tournament with Scotland.

"Bangladesh remains a priority cricket ecosystem deserving of long-term investment in its development, competitiveness and global integration, and is not defined by short-term disruptions," Sanjog Gupta, Chief Executive of the ICC, said in a statement.

The ICC said Bangladesh's non-participation in the tournament would not have any long-term effect on cricket in the country, which boasts more than 200 million fans.

As part of an understanding between the ICC and the BCB, an agreement has been reached that Bangladesh will host an ICC event prior to the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2031, set to be co-hosted by India and Bangladesh. This arrangement is subject to the usual ICC hosting processes, timelines and operational requirements.

"I think we are relieved [as no financial penalty was sanctioned] considering there were lots of things floating in the air after we refused to travel to India to take part in the World Cup," BCB vice-president Faruque Ahmed told Cricbuzz on Tuesday.

"There were several sanctions and penalties that could have come our way, and those have been stopped. Additionally, since we couldn't play in the World Cup, there is a possibility of financial loss. They [We] might not recover that directly in a financial sense, but perhaps we can host some events here - for example, the Women's World Cup," he said.

"We are hosting the Women's Under-19 World Cup next year. In '31, we are jointly hosting the 50-over World Cup with India; we are looking at how we can get more matches there," he said.

Another vice-president of the BCB, Shakhawat Hossain, echoed the same sentiment.
"Not just penalties, there could have been other troubles too but now lots of decisions have been taken following the meeting in Lahore which implies that our relation with the governing body of cricket is improving," he said.

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Not a bad deal for you guys. @sweep_shot
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:

Are you sure? :yk :inti​

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BCB relieved as no penalty is imposed after World Cup boycott​


Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) officials expressed their relief on Tuesday over no penalty being imposed on them by the International Cricket Council (ICC) for boycotting the ongoing Twenty20 World Cup.

Since Bangladesh decided not to take part in the global tournament, everyone in the country's cricketing landscape was skeptical over whether the ICC would sanction a penalty on them as they are expected to incur financial loss due to their absence.

However, the ICC announced on February 9 that there will be no financial, sporting or administrative penalty on the BCB in relation to boycotting the World Cup. The ICC agreed to take a lenient view of Bangladesh, despite their refusal to play in India and had to be replaced in the marquee tournament with Scotland.

"Bangladesh remains a priority cricket ecosystem deserving of long-term investment in its development, competitiveness and global integration, and is not defined by short-term disruptions," Sanjog Gupta, Chief Executive of the ICC, said in a statement.

The ICC said Bangladesh's non-participation in the tournament would not have any long-term effect on cricket in the country, which boasts more than 200 million fans.

As part of an understanding between the ICC and the BCB, an agreement has been reached that Bangladesh will host an ICC event prior to the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2031, set to be co-hosted by India and Bangladesh. This arrangement is subject to the usual ICC hosting processes, timelines and operational requirements.

"I think we are relieved [as no financial penalty was sanctioned] considering there were lots of things floating in the air after we refused to travel to India to take part in the World Cup," BCB vice-president Faruque Ahmed told Cricbuzz on Tuesday.

"There were several sanctions and penalties that could have come our way, and those have been stopped. Additionally, since we couldn't play in the World Cup, there is a possibility of financial loss. They [We] might not recover that directly in a financial sense, but perhaps we can host some events here - for example, the Women's World Cup," he said.

"We are hosting the Women's Under-19 World Cup next year. In '31, we are jointly hosting the 50-over World Cup with India; we are looking at how we can get more matches there," he said.

Another vice-president of the BCB, Shakhawat Hossain, echoed the same sentiment.
"Not just penalties, there could have been other troubles too but now lots of decisions have been taken following the meeting in Lahore which implies that our relation with the governing body of cricket is improving," he said.

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Not a bad deal for you guys. @sweep_shot
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Bangladesh won the moment they didn’t travel to India. Anything more is just added bonus. :dav
 
Ball Blazer said:
Delulu Indians think they won.
At first, they were so sure of Mohsin Naqvi's sacking after Asia Cup drama.
Later, they were sure of penalties on Bangladesh/Pakistan.
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Bhakts can write whatever they want. I consider them as mental patients.

They are misinformed and brainwashed by BJP WhatsApp University. :inti
 
Ball Blazer said:
Delulu Indians think they won.
At first, they were so sure of Mohsin Naqvi's sacking after Asia Cup drama.
Later, they were sure of penalties on Bangladesh/Pakistan.
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Relax no one can claim victory.. but there is good enough reason for everyone to be better prepared and reduce evaluations ICC tournaments now.

Who has won will be-known probably in 3-5 years.
 
Bilal7 said:
After these concessions were secured and everyone knew that the BCB, SLCB and the Emiratis were all urging the PCB, begging them not to boycott the India game, why would the PCB go ahead and harm it's own team's chances of winning the tournament? They also kept the PM's Izzat by saying that the government has given us approval to go ahead and play the game.

It was masterfully done.
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You must be delusional, pretending not to see the fact that none of the boards supported the Bangladesh and Pakistan stance. And they voted against you.. LOL. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Cover Drive Six said:
And then they asked you to play against India, and the PCB bent down. :salute
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ICC requested* so there are no financial losses

Anyways, there is something call goodwill, and paying back for SL's gestures towards Pakistan Cricket

It will benefit PAK-SL, PAK-BD relations in long term
 
Some Pakistani analysts are critical that the PCB used their one and only trump card i.e. the importance of the Indo Pak contests just for the sake of Bangladesh without getting anything significant for themselves in return. This trump card going forward will not be available as the BCCI,ICC and broadcasters will make sure that they PCB and the Pakistani government cannot use this trump card again.
 
Ah here we go again. "Hum jeet gay" " nahin hum jeet gay", " abay chup.kur hum jeet gay"...blah blah blah..

Look im no fan of Naqvi. I hate him and the whole administration. They are destroying the nation brick by brick like a disease. However sitting from afar and not following the naqvi 11 as closely as I used to, I believe the PCB got enough out of this one. They would never boycott that match. Too cowardly so we know that was never going to happen. So why the threat? In their minds, I believe this was a message to the ICC and to other boards. That cricket sits on very very unsure foundations. Here in the uk all the cricket journos were spooked. Everyone was taking a close look at hownthe world game is so fragile. And that is the point. The PCB basically took out its nuke, and put it innthe launch pad just to show the cricketing world it could finish things off and bring it all down. Now whether this works in the future I dont know but the way the ICC panicked shows they got the message.

Perhaps we'll see things move forward in future just a little bit and considering where things have been in recent years that may not be a bad thing. Other boards may now be just a little braver when voting.
 
the Great Khan said:
Ah here we go again. "Hum jeet gay" " nahin hum jeet gay", " abay chup.kur hum jeet gay"...blah blah blah..

Look im no fan of Naqvi. I hate him and the whole administration. They are destroying the nation brick by brick like a disease. However sitting from afar and not following the naqvi 11 as closely as I used to, I believe the PCB got enough out of this one. They would never boycott that match. Too cowardly so we know that was never going to happen. So why the threat? In their minds, I believe this was a message to the ICC and to other boards. That cricket sits on very very unsure foundations. Here in the uk all the cricket journos were spooked. Everyone was taking a close look at hownthe world game is so fragile. And that is the point. The PCB basically took out its nuke, and put it innthe launch pad just to show the cricketing world it could finish things off and bring it all down. Now whether this works in the future I dont know but the way the ICC panicked shows they got the message.

Perhaps we'll see things move forward in future just a little bit and considering where things have been in recent years that may not be a bad thing. Other boards may now be just a little braver when voting.
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Appreciate your neutral unbiased view 👍🏼

Internal politics aside, at least you stood by your country instead of selling yourself to india like how many others have.

Governments and politicians come and go, but Pakistan will always remain
 
emranabbas said:
The card Pakistan holds could shake the entire cricket ecosystem. If it ever chose to use that cars it wouldn’t just rattle the ICC it could destabilize the whole structure and turn Pakistan into the villain in the eyes of many boards.

It’s a powerful card, and one that could always be kept in reserve as a form of pressure in future negotiations.

The only real counter to that card would be if the Indian audience completely lost interest in India vs Pakistan fixtures and shifted their attention to other fixtures.

But thats impossible due to india's massive obsession with pakistan
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Even with India's obsession with Pakistan, you don't see many Indians crying over the lack of bilateral series between the two teams.

If it was decided in the future that India vs. Pakistan would no longer be in the same group in ICC events going forward, Indian fans would get used to that too.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Even with India's obsession with Pakistan, you don't see many Indians crying over the lack of bilateral series between the two teams.

If it was decided in the future that India vs. Pakistan would no longer be in the same group in ICC events going forward, Indian fans would get used to that too.
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Why didn't ICC kick out pakistan and replace them with UGANDA. Just like they did with Bangladesh.

If you do your research then come back to me and have an argument.
 
I think we all knew pakistan would end up playing. the leaders are too greedy. but they wanted to make a point about the massive draw this game is financially for broadcasters and ICC and that point is now well understood the way ICC frantically ran from country to country to make this game happen.
 
the Great Khan said:
The PCB basically took out its nuke, and put it innthe launch pad just to show the cricketing world it could finish things off and bring it all down. Now whether this works in the future I dont know but the way the ICC panicked shows they got the message.
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Somebody got the message alright. PCB were threatened with heavy sanctions and relegation to associate status.
 
ICC went running to PCB all the way to Lahore to beg us to play as confirmed by Rajeev Shukla. I think in the scheme of things we made the right call this time as it was going to harm Sri Lanka and they are a board which has supported us.
But it was amusing to see the Indian meltdown for a few days which was remarkable considering they claim to not care about us.
 
RexRex said:
Somebody got the message alright. PCB were threatened with heavy sanctions and relegation to associate status.
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And you have evidence of this? If the ICC is coming to Pakistan that is a sure fire signal that they did not have the upper hand. Otherwise they would have just openly threatened Pakistan. So I doubt that is the case. Now they may have outlined what could happen if Pakistan didnt negotiate etc which is another issue. Look Pakistan was always going to negotiate. This regime knows how to blackmail and play these harami games
 
RexRex said:
Somebody got the message alright. PCB were threatened with heavy sanctions and relegation to associate status.
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Where is the non indian source?

If pcb were scared of heavy sanctions why icc sending their mans to lahore?

Icc could have sent a message like they did bcci
 
I am still not following, what did PCB gain from all this?

From all the reports, ICC rejected all their demands, with the exception of BCB ones.
 
No penalty” isn’t a trophy. ICC never publicly threatened Bangladesh with sanctions — the ‘penalty fear’ is just BCB officials saying ‘things were floating in the air.’ The 2031 India-Bangladesh co-host was fixed back in Nov 2021, so it’s not a concession from any Lahore meeting. And dangling U19/Women’s events isn’t big compensation either — even Ganguly has called U19 tournaments loss-making/non-profit. Bangladesh + Nepal were already approved hosts for the 2027 U19 Women’s event since 2022. This is ICC damage control + PR framing, not some huge ‘BCB win
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:

Are you sure? :yk :inti​

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BCB relieved as no penalty is imposed after World Cup boycott​


Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) officials expressed their relief on Tuesday over no penalty being imposed on them by the International Cricket Council (ICC) for boycotting the ongoing Twenty20 World Cup.

Since Bangladesh decided not to take part in the global tournament, everyone in the country's cricketing landscape was skeptical over whether the ICC would sanction a penalty on them as they are expected to incur financial loss due to their absence.

However, the ICC announced on February 9 that there will be no financial, sporting or administrative penalty on the BCB in relation to boycotting the World Cup. The ICC agreed to take a lenient view of Bangladesh, despite their refusal to play in India and had to be replaced in the marquee tournament with Scotland.

"Bangladesh remains a priority cricket ecosystem deserving of long-term investment in its development, competitiveness and global integration, and is not defined by short-term disruptions," Sanjog Gupta, Chief Executive of the ICC, said in a statement.

The ICC said Bangladesh's non-participation in the tournament would not have any long-term effect on cricket in the country, which boasts more than 200 million fans.

As part of an understanding between the ICC and the BCB, an agreement has been reached that Bangladesh will host an ICC event prior to the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2031, set to be co-hosted by India and Bangladesh. This arrangement is subject to the usual ICC hosting processes, timelines and operational requirements.

"I think we are relieved [as no financial penalty was sanctioned] considering there were lots of things floating in the air after we refused to travel to India to take part in the World Cup," BCB vice-president Faruque Ahmed told Cricbuzz on Tuesday.

"There were several sanctions and penalties that could have come our way, and those have been stopped. Additionally, since we couldn't play in the World Cup, there is a possibility of financial loss. They [We] might not recover that directly in a financial sense, but perhaps we can host some events here - for example, the Women's World Cup," he said.

"We are hosting the Women's Under-19 World Cup next year. In '31, we are jointly hosting the 50-over World Cup with India; we are looking at how we can get more matches there," he said.

Another vice-president of the BCB, Shakhawat Hossain, echoed the same sentiment.
"Not just penalties, there could have been other troubles too but now lots of decisions have been taken following the meeting in Lahore which implies that our relation with the governing body of cricket is improving," he said.

© Cricbuzz


Not a bad deal for you guys. @sweep_shot
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RexRex said:
Somebody got the message alright. PCB were threatened with heavy sanctions and relegation to associate status.
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Is there a source for his outlandish claim?

Sanctions were possible but relegation? I dont think so. In no reality or alternate universe this was going to happen. Even sanctions are not possible if there is a case for Force Majeure, if you are not familiar with what that means in context of ICC and legal standing, please look it up.

At the end of the day, the greed and fiscal matters dictate such decisions. The Banglas definitely have my respect for sticking to their guns. Pakistan wanted to make a point and if they feel they did without going full monty, they are justified in calling the boycott off. It will be interesting to see how this goes from now on. ICC is tainted, most people except indians will admit to it. So there is absolutely no joy in this whole situation for those who truly love the sport.
 
Varun said:
Pakistan did the 100% correct thing by initiating the boycott then they got road-rollered by Jay Shah of all people.

They haven't got anything tangible in return.

If I was a Pakistan fan I'd be livid.
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Still today, I honestly have no freaking idea why they even started this Drama. And it had very little to do with BD. Unsure which news is true at this point but even through negotiations, nothing major was achieved
 
Former Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Najam Sethi, speaking during an interview:

"In fact, it's the ICC that has taken a step back. I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. It was a very considered decision from Pakistan. They looked at all the angles. They knew that there could be no sanctions (for boycotting the India match). They consulted the top lawyers at home and abroad."

"And there are precedents that made it clear to them that they were on a very strong wicket. And at best, they would lose a point, no more than that. And I think the ICC also realised that, which is why the ICC got into motion and made overtures. That's how Imran Khawaja, the deputy chief, got into action. That's how the Bangladeshis got into action. That's how they came to Pakistan to negotiate so that Pakistan could play this match."

"And I think one of the reasons that Pakistan gave a 15-day notice was that they wanted space with which to talk to the ICC and Bangladesh. And I think they had reason to believe that that would yield some results. And so I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. And I think Pakistan has achieved part of its objective, which was to get Bangladesh back in the game in one way or another, because the ICC was threatening them with all manner of sanctions. Pakistan knew that the broadcasters had the ICC, as it were, on a cold slab."

"And so as far as the question of resources is concerned, there was a time when Pakistan used to rely on ICC resources for sustenance like many of the other boards do, but not anymore. Now that the PSL has taken off in a big way, we get more money from the PSL than we get from the ICC. So Pakistan is well looked after by its own resources. So there was never an issue - never an issue. And I think, between you and me, going forward, maybe in March, you will see some other concessions that have been extracted from the ICC."
 
BouncerGuy said:
Former Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Najam Sethi, speaking during an interview:

"In fact, it's the ICC that has taken a step back. I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. It was a very considered decision from Pakistan. They looked at all the angles. They knew that there could be no sanctions (for boycotting the India match). They consulted the top lawyers at home and abroad."

"And there are precedents that made it clear to them that they were on a very strong wicket. And at best, they would lose a point, no more than that. And I think the ICC also realised that, which is why the ICC got into motion and made overtures. That's how Imran Khawaja, the deputy chief, got into action. That's how the Bangladeshis got into action. That's how they came to Pakistan to negotiate so that Pakistan could play this match."

"And I think one of the reasons that Pakistan gave a 15-day notice was that they wanted space with which to talk to the ICC and Bangladesh. And I think they had reason to believe that that would yield some results. And so I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. And I think Pakistan has achieved part of its objective, which was to get Bangladesh back in the game in one way or another, because the ICC was threatening them with all manner of sanctions. Pakistan knew that the broadcasters had the ICC, as it were, on a cold slab."

"And so as far as the question of resources is concerned, there was a time when Pakistan used to rely on ICC resources for sustenance like many of the other boards do, but not anymore. Now that the PSL has taken off in a big way, we get more money from the PSL than we get from the ICC. So Pakistan is well looked after by its own resources. So there was never an issue - never an issue. And I think, between you and me, going forward, maybe in March, you will see some other concessions that have been extracted from the ICC."
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FYI @Hitman
 
Sethi cricketing views are very objective and ground headed , they have value as well being an ex-chairman unlike the bafoons we had
 
BouncerGuy said:
Former Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Najam Sethi, speaking during an interview:

"In fact, it's the ICC that has taken a step back. I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. It was a very considered decision from Pakistan. They looked at all the angles. They knew that there could be no sanctions (for boycotting the India match). They consulted the top lawyers at home and abroad."

"And there are precedents that made it clear to them that they were on a very strong wicket. And at best, they would lose a point, no more than that. And I think the ICC also realised that, which is why the ICC got into motion and made overtures. That's how Imran Khawaja, the deputy chief, got into action. That's how the Bangladeshis got into action. That's how they came to Pakistan to negotiate so that Pakistan could play this match."

"And I think one of the reasons that Pakistan gave a 15-day notice was that they wanted space with which to talk to the ICC and Bangladesh. And I think they had reason to believe that that would yield some results. And so I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. And I think Pakistan has achieved part of its objective, which was to get Bangladesh back in the game in one way or another, because the ICC was threatening them with all manner of sanctions. Pakistan knew that the broadcasters had the ICC, as it were, on a cold slab."

"And so as far as the question of resources is concerned, there was a time when Pakistan used to rely on ICC resources for sustenance like many of the other boards do, but not anymore. Now that the PSL has taken off in a big way, we get more money from the PSL than we get from the ICC. So Pakistan is well looked after by its own resources. So there was never an issue - never an issue. And I think, between you and me, going forward, maybe in March, you will see some other concessions that have been extracted from the ICC."
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I'm genuinely puzzled by this logic. If Pakistani genuinely had such a strong case i.e. they could be no sanctions...only loss of points, why didn't Bangladesh have the same strong case? They too were in the same situation since their government had prohibited them from playing in India...it was not a sporting decision.

Why did they need Pakistan to threaten to boycott to save them from penalties? Couldn't Pakistan have referred them to the same "top lawyers at home and abroad" who had advised the PCB that they were protected legally?

If they felt that BCB couldn't afford those lawyers, PCB could've offered to pay. Then we would've ended up in the exact same situation i.e. no sanctions on Bangladesh without all this drama.
 
rpant_gabba said:
You seriously want us to take Najam Sethi seriously? The guy who couldn’t or didn’t want to tell the difference between an LOI, MOU and a contract?

I think @rickroll nailed it the thread about Britishistanis
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Yeah... That is why you guys are sharing the news in every thread... ask hitman
 
Pakistan's case suffered when the BCB requested it in public to end the boycott
 
Cover Drive Six said:
You must be delusional, pretending not to see the fact that none of the boards supported the Bangladesh and Pakistan stance. And they voted against you.. LOL. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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Yes, which is why the PCB threatened to boycott the game. Are you slow? Do you even understand what actually took place?

The BCB will face no repercussions anymore and the PCB achieved all their objectives. India meanwhile is more hated than ever in Bangladesh, which is awesome.
 
JaDed said:
This is similar to how you previously hyped PCT , yet you left when they got spanked around.

The obfuscation of the entire deal is the reason Naqvi can save face, everything else is just for consumption of Pakistan and East Pakistani citizens.
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Unlike you, I actually have more important things than a cricket forum so yes, I come and go as I please.

That doesn't change the fact that the whole of India got a tight slap across their collective, metaphorical faces just now. That's the burn that you're feeling which is making you all froth at the mouth.
 
BouncerGuy said:
So you don't take him seriously but keep on sharing the news about what he said from an Indian source... LOL

logic has left the chat here...Thanks
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Me? where.

I've made my thoughts clear on Indian ppers post in this thread.

Question, why you as a mod, are posting opinion of a guy who cost PCB millions becos he was too stupid to tell what actual contract looks like
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bcci made zero commitments, show one statement from bcci saying they agreed to all that u have claimed.

Bcb slc may have begged emiratis may have told pcb to not act foolish, bcci wasn’t involved in any og these negotiations,

You will not see Indian team going to bd for the bilateral series in august unless the recent elections in bd brings some changes

Pcb has sold u guys the churan u guy are used to,
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The BCCI just got humiliated and they are powerless to do anything about it because the PCB has guaranteed that the BCB will face zero repercussions for their bravery.

No one gives a S about bilateral series. Pakistan cricket is making more money than ever and the BCB will quickly find an alternative. In fact, more cricket between the brotherly nations of Pakistan and Bangladesh at the expense of the Indians is a great thing.

India will have to be send their teams to participate in all PCB and BCB hosted tournaments though. Of that, there is no doubt.

Bangladesh is going through a great change and finally freeing itself from Indian influence. Long may it continue.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Me? where.

I've made my thoughts clear on Indian ppers post in this thread.

Question, why you as a mod, are posting opinion of a guy who cost PCB millions becos he was too stupid to tell what actual contract looks like
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I mentioned Hitman because he shared the news in another thread but I gave him originall quotes... who are you??? MOVE
 
Bhaijaan said:
I do agree that eventually Pakistan did not seem to have received any favours. They took a huge punt on this occassion and it seemed liek they had brought themselves to a position of heavy bargain with the ICC and BCCI. This was a moment and going by the reports so far it doesn't seem that PCB got away with any major concessions. Its nice to say it was all for Bangladesh but they never did anything for you. To go to such extents and not come back with some significant breakthrough is somewhat disappointing.

Otherwise, we are all glad to have a move on.
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We did it for the Ummah. Bangladesh is a Muslim majority country and a natural ally of Pakistan's.

You will see the benefit for Pakistan in the political realm when India loses all it's influence in Bangladesh and the Jamaat wins the next election, InshAllah.
 
Bilal7 said:
Unlike you, I actually have more important things than a cricket forum so yes, I come and go as I please.

That doesn't change the fact that the whole of India got a tight slap across their collective, metaphorical faces just now. That's the burn that you're feeling which is making you all froth at the mouth.
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As per you India have been getting a collective slap since 2013…and PCB and PCT are some visionaries.
 
Bilal7 said:
We did it for the Ummah. Bangladesh is a Muslim majority country and a natural ally of Pakistan's.

You will see the benefit for Pakistan in the political realm when India loses all it's influence in Bangladesh and the Jamaat wins the next election, InshAllah.
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Seems like that only.

India- Bangladesh relations are going to be purely transactional for the foreseeable future. You have an influence on them and we are on the backfoot diplomatically speaking but i maintain that India holds many tricks up its sleeves to manage its neighbours.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Former Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Najam Sethi, speaking during an interview:

"In fact, it's the ICC that has taken a step back. I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. It was a very considered decision from Pakistan. They looked at all the angles. They knew that there could be no sanctions (for boycotting the India match). They consulted the top lawyers at home and abroad."

"And there are precedents that made it clear to them that they were on a very strong wicket. And at best, they would lose a point, no more than that. And I think the ICC also realised that, which is why the ICC got into motion and made overtures. That's how Imran Khawaja, the deputy chief, got into action. That's how the Bangladeshis got into action. That's how they came to Pakistan to negotiate so that Pakistan could play this match."

"And I think one of the reasons that Pakistan gave a 15-day notice was that they wanted space with which to talk to the ICC and Bangladesh. And I think they had reason to believe that that would yield some results. And so I think the ICC has decided to back off a little bit, give Bangladesh some space. And I think Pakistan has achieved part of its objective, which was to get Bangladesh back in the game in one way or another, because the ICC was threatening them with all manner of sanctions. Pakistan knew that the broadcasters had the ICC, as it were, on a cold slab."

"And so as far as the question of resources is concerned, there was a time when Pakistan used to rely on ICC resources for sustenance like many of the other boards do, but not anymore. Now that the PSL has taken off in a big way, we get more money from the PSL than we get from the ICC. So Pakistan is well looked after by its own resources. So there was never an issue - never an issue. And I think, between you and me, going forward, maybe in March, you will see some other concessions that have been extracted from the ICC."
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Thats good and thats how it should be . Depend less on ICC revenue and focus more on getting it through Pak locally . (y)
 
the Great Khan said:
Ah here we go again. "Hum jeet gay" " nahin hum jeet gay", " abay chup.kur hum jeet gay"...blah blah blah..

Look im no fan of Naqvi. I hate him and the whole administration. They are destroying the nation brick by brick like a disease. However sitting from afar and not following the naqvi 11 as closely as I used to, I believe the PCB got enough out of this one. They would never boycott that match. Too cowardly so we know that was never going to happen. So why the threat? In their minds, I believe this was a message to the ICC and to other boards. That cricket sits on very very unsure foundations. Here in the uk all the cricket journos were spooked. Everyone was taking a close look at hownthe world game is so fragile. And that is the point. The PCB basically took out its nuke, and put it innthe launch pad just to show the cricketing world it could finish things off and bring it all down. Now whether this works in the future I dont know but the way the ICC panicked shows they got the message.

Perhaps we'll see things move forward in future just a little bit and considering where things have been in recent years that may not be a bad thing. Other boards may now be just a little braver when voting.
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Personally I have little respect for PCB or the govt, and always knew they would end up playing the game against India. I would have preferred the nuclear option of destroying international cricket and seeing the Indians squirm, but I can see why the Pakistanis would use this to saga to squeeze some concessions out of the desperate ICC to save their crappy tournament.
 
Rajdeep said:
Arnab seems to be asking here right questions here gents. He is blaming Rajiv Shukla from BCCI and Sanjog Gupta from ICC for this entire fiasco.


Amazing guts shown by Arnab....going after right people in power. You guys agree?

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he is 100% right we humiliated India and got India running around on a negotiation table and that's exactly what i been saying.

Bangladesh playing tournament or no makes no difference they still getting paid as if they were playing a tournament on top they have been given a tournament to host too.

BCCI/India/ICC turned out to spineless no power all talk and took no real action against PCB of BCB because all the cards were in the hands of PCB

but your Indian buddies want to ignore that and the whole big picture and cling on the the u-turn part and do bhangra over it showing fake bravado on an online forum.

it makes us no difference if prime minster said to boycott and then back tracked but within that week we got BCCI/ICC/India running around like headless chickens and dragged them on a negotiation table this is called politics.

you can do bhangra over it if you like make us no difference.
 
emranabbas said:
he is 100% right we humiliated India and got India running around on a negotiation table and that's exactly what i been saying.

Bangladesh playing tournament or no makes no difference they still getting paid as if they were playing a tournament on top they have been given a tournament to host too.

BCCI/India/ICC turned out to spineless no power all talk and took no real action against PCB of BCB because all the cards were in the hands of PCB

but your Indian buddies want to ignore that and the whole big picture and cling on the the u-turn part and do bhangra over it showing fake bravado on an online forum.

it makes us no difference if prime minster said to boycott and then back tracked but within that week we got BCCI/ICC/India running around like headless chickens and dragged them on a negotiation table this is called politics.

you can do bhangra over it if you like make us no difference.
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Yeah. A PM has no value in Pak.

The govt has no value in Pak.

As long they can cause some private organization of India some imagined trouble.

The value of parliament, PM and democracy in Pak is similar to makeup on a face, sirf dikhawe ke liye
 
RahulBose said:
Yeah. A PM has no value in Pak.

The govt has no value in Pak.

As long they can cause some private organization of India some imagined trouble.

The value of parliament, PM and democracy in Pak is similar to makeup on a face, sirf dikhawe ke liye
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when you don't have an answer and cant stick to topic then go bla bla bla to show your triggered :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: 🤡
 
emranabbas said:
when you don't have an answer and cant stick to topic then go bla bla bla to show your triggered :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: 🤡
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Of course I was triggered. That's why I replied, that's how cause and effect works.

And my reply was better than your reply.

You entire post was about the misery Pak caused to BCCI and ICC.

But completely blanking on the fact that the pak think tank tarnished the authority of the PM of pak to achieve this.

It is a self goal when you understand BCCI is a private organisation and does not really represent India.

Not the same way a government does.
 
RahulBose said:
Of course I was triggered. That's why I replied, that's how cause and effect works.

And my reply was better than your reply.

You entire post was about the misery Pak caused to BCCI and ICC.

But completely blanking on the fact that the pak think tank tarnished the authority of the PM of pak to achieve this.

It is a self goal when you understand BCCI is a private organisation and does not really represent India.

Not the same way a government does.
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Don’t think anyone really cares apart from you sitting in India.


You also conveniently left out the part where Sri Lanka’s Prime Minister personally contacted Pakistan’s Prime Minister requesting that the boycott be reconsidered because it would financially impact Sri Lanka. Bangladesh also reached out directly to Pakistan.

We’ve built bridges with Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. In the past, Pakistan was isolated now Sri Lanka remains neutral and Bangladesh is leaning towards cooperation with Pakistan. That benefits us as a country. Meanwhile, India only has Afghanistan firmly on its side.

You’re being selective and shaping the narrative to suit yourself. That’s why your argument doesn’t hold. I know you have been quoting me for the past few days and I have being i don't really like having conversations with nobodies like you who only believe in selective narratives because its a waste of time and just going in circles.
 
Savak said:
Some Pakistani analysts are critical that the PCB used their one and only trump card i.e. the importance of the Indo Pak contests just for the sake of Bangladesh without getting anything significant for themselves in return. This trump card going forward will not be available as the BCCI,ICC and broadcasters will make sure that they PCB and the Pakistani government cannot use this trump card again.
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and if ICC and the broadcasters don't make sure that they mitigate this risk they have themselves to blame
 
you know who is the biggest winner in all this, IPL. Now Indian broadcasters and advertisers will know which is the most stable platform for them. Most of the advertisers are Indian and they are advertizing for Indian market. Why bother with ICC tournaments? why bid so big when every single tournament hosted in subcontinent will go through this circus? what are they getting in return? upside is very minimal. They can get better returns by propping up IPL even more than it is now. So expect in the coming decades, bidding for ICC events to be minimal and for IPL to increase.

BCCI somehow ends up winning in the end, always
 
SportsWarrior said:
you know who is the biggest winner in all this, IPL. Now Indian broadcasters and advertisers will know which is the most stable platform for them. Most of the advertisers are Indian and they are advertizing for Indian market. Why bother with ICC tournaments? why bid so big when every single tournament hosted in subcontinent will go through this circus? what are they getting in return? upside is very minimal. They can get better returns by propping up IPL even more than it is now. So expect in the coming decades, bidding for ICC events to be minimal and for IPL to increase.

BCCI somehow ends up winning in the end, always
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BCCI, ECB, CA can run cricket without anyone. Now that SA20 is flourishing you can add them to. If NZ20 is also a hit you got 5 solid nations which has been the case for 150 years of cricket. No need of useless teams like BD. If anything i have no problem isolating them and growing sports in countries like Nepal.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Post #81 :inti
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Interesting, but I keep seeing that ICC will punish bd/pak for not participating or wanting to not play a certain match. But when the directive came from the government, how can ICC legally do anything? Can't really go after the government
 
It’s u turn everywhere. Looks like the players wanted to boycott and not govt

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ICYMI: Asif Nazrul, the Bangladesh government's sports advisor, has taken a U-turn.He insisted that the decision to not take part in the ongoing T20 World Cup 2026 was made by the cricketers and the Bangladesh Cricket Board, and not by the Bangladesh government.
 
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light said:
Interesting, but I keep seeing that ICC will punish bd/pak for not participating or wanting to not play a certain match. But when the directive came from the government, how can ICC legally do anything? Can't really go after the government
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That is because no on trusts the U turn govt of these countries.
 
emranabbas said:
Where is the non indian source?

If pcb were scared of heavy sanctions why icc sending their mans to lahore?

Icc could have sent a message like they did bcci
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Iccsent team to Dhaka too, did that sto the expulsion of bd from the wc
 
Rajdeep said:
That is because no on trusts the U turn govt of these countries.
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Still didn't answer the question. Can they go after the gov? Its not about U-turn, it's about how can they sue the board when the gov instructed the board to do x y z action?

Also to add to that, BD gov is changing it tune now and saying that BCB is the one that decided this ... Lulz. Board is saying nah bro, gov told us to. One is lying ... My money is on the gov
 
light said:
Still didn't answer the question. Can they go after the gov? Its not about U-turn, it's about how can they sue the board when the gov instructed the board to do x y z action?

Also to add to that, BD gov is changing it tune now and saying that BCB is the one that decided this ... Lulz. Board is saying nah bro, gov told us to. One is lying ... My money is on the gov
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Can they go after the government? Probably not but these things are never black and white. If this went to court, the ICC's stand could be that the Government and PCB are essentially the same...after all, the Chairman of the PCB is also the country's interior minister and the Patron is the Prime Minister.

Would it stand in a court? Who knows but there's definitely ambiguity.

Besides the ICC has other weapons. Theoretically it stipulates that the country's cricketing board should be free of political influence. In fact, Sri Lanka has been suspended in the past because of it. In most subcontinent countries, there is inevitably some element of political influence but Pakistan has been utterly blatant about it completely eliminating any pretense of elections to the top post and letting the Chairman hold a dual role in the government. The ICC could suddenly stop turning a blind eye and suspend Pakistan from international cricket.

The PCB is probably well advised not to pick a fight with the rest of the cricketing world without at least 5-6 countries to support it however strong it may feel it's legal stand is.
 
light said:
Still didn't answer the question. Can they go after the gov? Its not about U-turn, it's about how can they sue the board when the gov instructed the board to do x y z action?

Also to add to that, BD gov is changing it tune now and saying that BCB is the one that decided this ... Lulz. Board is saying nah bro, gov told us to. One is lying ... My money is on the gov
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Really depends who the govt is. If it is someone like Modi ji, sure. Everyone listens when he speaks.

However, Pakistan and Bangladesh govt has no value. That is why Shehbaz Sheriff said Pak will not play on 15th but PCB ignored him and now playing. BD govt initially told they wont send team to India but now they took u turn saying they never said that. So ICC has no reason to listen to such fickle govts.
 
Rajdeep said:
Really depends who the govt is. If it is someone like Modi ji, sure. Everyone listens when he speaks.

However, Pakistan and Bangladesh govt has no value. That is why Shehbaz Sheriff said Pak will not play on 15th but PCB ignored him and now playing. BD govt initially told they wont send team to India but now they took u turn saying they never said that. So ICC has no reason to listen to such fickle govts.
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There was also an article I found not to long ago about their shooting team being granted a green light to travel to India, lol
 
light said:
There was also an article I found not to long ago about their shooting team being granted a green light to travel to India, lol
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Yeah... cancelled Mustafizur's IPL for some reasons but those reasons vanished and now the shooting team is given visas... HMMM
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yeah... cancelled Mustafizur's IPL for some reasons but those reasons vanished and now the shooting team is given visas... HMMM
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This was prior to their election. Am not saying what BCCI or ICC did was any better but this is also slimy from BD government and cricket. Political nonsense from all parties ruined their chance to participate in a WC and leaving over 100m people hungry for cricket dry while rest are having fun. Can't tell one sport team it's ok to travel but deny another sport team for political points.
 
light said:
Still didn't answer the question. Can they go after the gov?
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No they cannot.
light said:
Its not about U-turn, it's about how can they sue the board when the gov instructed the board to do x y z action?
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They can go after PCB for sure as PCB signed a contract, the MPA. PCB are welcome to invoke force majure and ICC will gladly say force majure applies to all games not just India. It will be easy for ICC to suspend PCB for political interference. PCB can ignore all rulings against it and take Najam Sethi's position that PCB doesn't need ICC.

Answer me this, Is Najam correct? Can PCB survive without ICC?

I was hoping to find out. Too bad PCB chickened out.
 
rpant_gabba said:
No they cannot.

They can go after PCB for sure as PCB signed a contract, the MPA. PCB are welcome to invoke force majure and ICC will gladly say force majure applies to all games not just India. It will be easy for ICC to suspend PCB for political interference. PCB can ignore all rulings against it and take Najam Sethi's position that PCB doesn't need ICC.

Answer me this, Is Najam correct? Can PCB survive without ICC?

I was hoping to find out. Too bad PCB chickened out.
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lol. that's a lie
 
emranabbas said:
lol. that's a lie
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Why is it a lie?

It directly translates to violation of a signed contract aka the MPA due to political interference.

If ICC chooses to act, it will up to PCB to litigate and win. Willing to put on PCB's ability to win that case? All the while losing out on ICC distributions and sidelined from international cricket?

Bottle of Scotch?
 
rpant_gabba said:
No they cannot.

They can go after PCB for sure as PCB signed a contract, the MPA. PCB are welcome to invoke force majure and ICC will gladly say force majure applies to all games not just India. It will be easy for ICC to suspend PCB for political interference. PCB can ignore all rulings against it and take Najam Sethi's position that PCB doesn't need ICC.

Answer me this, Is Najam correct? Can PCB survive without ICC?

I was hoping to find out. Too bad PCB chickened out.
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None of the 3 board are correct - ICC included. Each has their stupid part to play
 
light said:
None of the 3 board are correct - ICC included. Each has their stupid part to play
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There are no 3 boards. there are 2 boards and the event organizer ICC. 2 boards threatened to violate a signed contract the MPA. 1 of them chickened out.

The question here is who will survive legal action and who can live w/o who.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Which unresearched boast did PCB make in this instance?

There is a lot of disdain for PCB and it being badly run. But ICC seems immune from criticism from anybody This whole mess with Pakistan was created by it's inaction and it's inability to operate outside of the constraints of the Indian political system.

And before that the mess with Bangladesh was triggered by Indians needing a punching bag to take revenge for the Hindu gentleman that was attacked and set alight in Bangladesh.

And despite all this jumping up and down, that we Indians bring X to cricket, we can schedule two teams from IPL and surpass the budget of ICC etc etc the Jay Shah led ICC worked day and night to appease the demands of the Indian market and media powerhouses. That same market then comes to lecture us about various unrelated topics.

It's very convenient to home in on who you think are the bad guys but absolve everyone else from blame.

Cricket has been a disaster since India took over the helm. It is the first time we have seen rigged draws, exceptions made and politicians from countries been dragged in to resolve disputes

We have seen a cricketer banned from India by Indian government and it being declared a victory for Hindus by BJP.

We have seen security concerns of Bangladeshis ignored because Indian is at the helm of ICC.

President's and prime ministers being dragged into debates.

Sure you guys will argue that it is India, your way or the highway.

But if you want to talk about shockingly amateurish - then it is important to look a bit closer to home too.
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Did u see BCCI saying anything, they were not going to be affected, smaller boards were, so they talked to pcb
 
All that drama, and the team lost like that with no fight.

Embarrassing for PCB honestly.
 
The match a foregone conclusion like Hector facing Achilles. Still Naqvi Ji sent his brave warriors to die by the sword.

Nothing but respect.
 
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