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PCB considering Malaysia as future venue for home matches and PSL

England and Canada are obvious suggestions - but may be too expensive

The China idea is an intriguing one too

Regardless, I like the idea of leaving the UAE - its served its purpose, it time to either go back to Pakistan or somewhere further
 
coy0607 said:
England and Canada are obvious suggestions - but may be too expensive

The China idea is an intriguing one too

Regardless, I like the idea of leaving the UAE - its served its purpose, it time to either go back to Pakistan or somewhere further
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Canada just have one ICC approved ground that too is poorly maintained. Secondly, during Feb Toronto (Or Canada in general) have temperature falling below 0 which is not ideal for cricket. Same can be said for England.

If PCB wish to have PSL in Feb, then southern hemisphere is ideal as it will be summer which is perfect weather conditions for cricket.
 
Malaysia will see empty grounds just like the UAE has, not a good decision if its made :facepalm:
 
For me there is one option in Asia and that is Sri Lanka but it depends on the Sri Lankan board if they want Pakistan team there .

After that the only other option I see is going to Africa and playing our games in Zimbabwe and south Africa, I personally think this will be of more benefit for our players , playing in south Africa and having access to south African facilities.
I don't think it will be overly expensive compared to England but I could be wrong .
 
KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has sent out a clear message to the UAE authorities to choose between them of other leagues which they are planning to host in the near future.

UAE may organise their own Emirates T20 league with plans to host the Afghan League as well, but the PCB has told them that it might affect the Pakistan Super League (PSL), which they are not ready to let happen.

Moreover, apart from the warning, the PCB has also moved to bring down the rent they pay to the UAE for using their stadiums.
According to the details published in Express Daily, Pakistan is unhappy since the UAE is planning to organise their version of T20 league which the PCB believes will dent the PSL’s profits.

As a second option, therefore, a PCB contingent visited Malaysia to check their two stadiums.

The size of the stadiums was one of the issues which surfaced but it is being said that they are as spacious and big as the Sharjah cricket stadium in the UAE.

Malaysia receives its fair share of rainfall in January and February which means cricket matches can take place in the country starting from March onwards. Also the temperatures in Malaysia are less soaring than the UAE, ranging from 24-25 degree Celsius.

So, to check the feasibility of the stadiums, PCB has planned to organise women’s cricket series against Australia in Malaysia’s stadium which are scheduled to be played in October this year.

Also, the women’s team will participate in the Asia Cup in Malaysia starting from June 1, 2018.

Hosting Pakistan’s fixtures in Malaysia will help cut down ground expenses to half as compared to the UAE.

Meanwhile, a meeting to discuss these matters will take place on April 18 in Dubai where PCB and the Emirates authorities will sit down to find the middle ground.

PCB is en route establishing safe playing conditions in Pakistan for which they recently hosted West Indies, the PSL final and also the playoffs of the T20 league in Karachi and Lahore, respectively.

However, there is still time before cricket returns to the country completely and till then, having a second, financially better option other than the UAE is good for Pakistan’s coffers.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1685446/7-us-leagues-pcb-warns-uae-choose/
 
Amjid Javed said:
Malaysia will see empty grounds just like the UAE has, not a good decision if its made :facepalm:
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Rofl total capacity of Malaysian grounds is not more than 2000-4000 attendance

I've lived there rainfall is an issue for the whole year not just from November to February. Summer and rainfall is all year round. All of the cricket grounds are in Selangor state close to the city Kuala Lumpur.

Biggest stadium is Kinrara Academy Oval with 4000 capacity and Bayuemas Oval with just 2000. Stadiums look similar to New Zealand ground like Mt. Manganui.
 
Kazim_Pak86 said:
Rofl total capacity of Malaysian grounds is not more than 2000-4000 attendance

I've lived there rainfall is an issue for the whole year not just from November to February. Summer and rainfall is all year round. All of the cricket grounds are in Selangor state close to the city Kuala Lumpur.

Biggest stadium is Kinrara Academy Oval with 4000 capacity and Bayuemas Oval with just 2000. Stadiums look similar to New Zealand ground like Mt. Manganui.
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At least it won't look empty
 
babajee said:
Does anyone know what the wickets would be like in Malaysia?
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I've personally played quite a number of games in Kinrara Oval (which is the only ground that can even remotely host PSL) and truth be told the pitch quality won't be a far cry from what we see in the UAE; this is mainly due to the natural soil composition found in Malaysia.

Also, there is the rain issue (daily showers and weekly thunderstorms can literally ruin each and every game - especially since Feb normally is the wet season)

The ground will be sticky in nature and sliding on most accounts would be a problem due to the top layer of the field being only a couple to 4-5 inches deep; this increases the chance of injury during fielding.

However, with conditions normally being overcast and stuff, if any games are played during a relatively warm day, swing bowlers would find significant lateral movement.
 
Previously, traveling for a common man to Kinrara Oval was also an ordeal; since there was only a bus service that would take you to Puchong (the area where Kinrara Oval is) with 7-8 trips a day.

In the last 3 years the govt has made access to the region of Puchong via LRT too so coupled with the bus service a person can easily reach there without any problems whatsoever - and it's cheap too for people who might not afford cab fare or grab!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
I've personally played quite a number of games in Kinrara Oval (which is the only ground that can even remotely host PSL) and truth be told the pitch quality won't be a far cry from what we see in the UAE; this is mainly due to the natural soil composition found in Malaysia.

Also, there is the rain issue (daily showers and weekly thunderstorms can literally ruin each and every game - especially since Feb normally is the wet season)

The ground will be sticky in nature and sliding on most accounts would be a problem due to the top layer of the field being only a couple to 4-5 inches deep; this increases the chance of injury during fielding.

However, with conditions normally being overcast and stuff, if any games are played during a relatively warm day, swing bowlers would find significant lateral movement.
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So there’s only one international standard ground? How is that gonna hold an entire PSL tournament :danish
 
babajee said:
So there’s only one international standard ground? How is that gonna hold an entire PSL tournament :danish
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There are a few others as well! Kelab Aman on Jalan Ampang or Perbadanan Kemajuan Negari Selangor both can hold cricket matches with capacities at 1-3k and 7+k respectively however, these grounds are make shift multi purpose stadiums that's use the fields for domestic football games as well (intercity leagues) hence the ground would feel a lot like what we feel when we play in New Zealand.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
There are a few others as well! Kelab Aman on Jalan Ampang or Perbadanan Kemajuan Negari Selangor both can hold cricket matches with capacities at 1-3k and 7+k respectively however, these grounds are make shift multi purpose stadiums that's use the fields for domestic football games as well (intercity leagues) hence the ground would feel a lot like what we feel when we play in New Zealand.
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Sounds alright then. Anything is an upgrade over UAE :)
 
PCB will not be moving out of UAE soon, looks like just empty threat or tactical move to stop UAE board from diluting value of PSL.

End of the day, PCB can't control what UAE boards wants to do for themselves. Dependency on other country on playing own domestic league is biggest risk.

Only best solution is to move PSL completely to Pak, we all discussed enough on pro's and con's of this move ... interesting days for PCB ahead :19:
 
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Why not upgrade Mirpur cricket stadium in Azad Kashmir!! Plenty of good hotels ,fanatical following & the locals can spot an outsider from miles away...safer then all the cities in Pakistan
 
Playing a few series in Malaysia will be OK but not for permanent relocation. I still feel UAE is the best option, specially for PSL. Also Pak needs to keep playing at home as well with interested teams.
 
LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Najam Sethi on Sunday warned the United Arab Emirates (UAE) authorities to not hold any matches in the country from October-March due to Pakistan’s commitments.

Speaking to the media, Najam Sethi said that the PCB has warned the Emirates Cricket Board (ECB) to not hold matches between October-March since Pakistan is scheduled to play international and domestic series in the region during the timeframe.



He added that the Emirati authorities have approved the demands verbally, but if in case the demands are not fulfilled, Pakistan will shift the Pakistan Super League (PSL) to Malaysia. PCB has demanded a written apology within 3-4 days.

“The Asia Cup is going to be held in September. Then, we have a series against Australia and New Zealand in the UAE, while after that, the PSL season begins, so the schedule is stacked. In such circumstances, we can not afford that the UAE holds cricket matches of its own or the other leagues,” Sethi added.

Sethi further highlighted that the International Cricket Council (ICC) is also wary of the increase in the number of T20 leagues and is already working to devise a plan to regulate the calendar.


https://dailytimes.com.pk/233952/sethi-warns-uae-to-not-hold-matches-from-october-march/
 
If the conditions are suitable, why not. I dont care about crowd. We need to make sure we are not held hostage by the UAE cricket board. All those cricket grounds in Abu Dhabi, Dubai would be without a soul once cricket returns to our country fully. Emirati cricket board needs to be shown their aukat.
 
UN talkz said:
LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Najam Sethi on Sunday warned the United Arab Emirates (UAE) authorities to not hold any matches in the country from October-March due to Pakistan’s commitments.

Speaking to the media, Najam Sethi said that the PCB has warned the Emirates Cricket Board (ECB) to not hold matches between October-March since Pakistan is scheduled to play international and domestic series in the region during the timeframe.



He added that the Emirati authorities have approved the demands verbally, but if in case the demands are not fulfilled, Pakistan will shift the Pakistan Super League (PSL) to Malaysia. PCB has demanded a written apology within 3-4 days.

“The Asia Cup is going to be held in September. Then, we have a series against Australia and New Zealand in the UAE, while after that, the PSL season begins, so the schedule is stacked. In such circumstances, we can not afford that the UAE holds cricket matches of its own or the other leagues,” Sethi added.

Sethi further highlighted that the International Cricket Council (ICC) is also wary of the increase in the number of T20 leagues and is already working to devise a plan to regulate the calendar.


https://dailytimes.com.pk/233952/sethi-warns-uae-to-not-hold-matches-from-october-march/
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wow!!! thank God cricket world is not run by PCB. look at the sense of entitlement.
 
The WCL Division 4 is being played in KL right now.
Apparently this is Malaysia's fifth time hosting the tournament. I'll be following the scores but I doubt it's televised.
 
According to reports, the UAE board have sanctioned their own T20 competition for the next 10 years, and will host this joke T10 event that somehow gets another edition. This will mess up our "home" international season for the forseeable future as we won't be able to play in Dec and Jan thanks to these mickey mouse tournaments the Emiratis want to stage.

These T20/T10 competitions in the UAE as Al Jazeera exposed with the Ajman All Stars event are just a front for match fixers.

PCB pays extortionate rates to play in these god forsaken venues that nobody would turn up to if it wasn't for Pakistan internationals. PCB are in a tough spot now as this reduces their scheduling flexibility, and may accelerate the process of returning international cricket to Pakistan.
 
England would be ideal for the summer. Are there a lot of Pakistanis in Malaysia. AJK would be a good venue safest part of Pakistan. Should do up the Mirpur stadium
 
I wish some thing extra ordinary happen and ECB let us allow to play home matches in england again which seems veru unlikely due to pathetic statement from ijaz butt and fixing saga
 
UN talkz said:
LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Najam Sethi on Sunday warned the United Arab Emirates (UAE) authorities to not hold any matches in the country from October-March due to Pakistan’s commitments.

Speaking to the media, Najam Sethi said that the PCB has warned the Emirates Cricket Board (ECB) to not hold matches between October-March since Pakistan is scheduled to play international and domestic series in the region during the timeframe.



He added that the Emirati authorities have approved the demands verbally, but if in case the demands are not fulfilled, Pakistan will shift the Pakistan Super League (PSL) to Malaysia. PCB has demanded a written apology within 3-4 days.

“The Asia Cup is going to be held in September. Then, we have a series against Australia and New Zealand in the UAE, while after that, the PSL season begins, so the schedule is stacked. In such circumstances, we can not afford that the UAE holds cricket matches of its own or the other leagues,” Sethi added.

Sethi further highlighted that the International Cricket Council (ICC) is also wary of the increase in the number of T20 leagues and is already working to devise a plan to regulate the calendar.


https://dailytimes.com.pk/233952/sethi-warns-uae-to-not-hold-matches-from-october-march/
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This statement if true shows that PCB has no skill at in dealing with other boards. Why does PCB act all entitled.How in world can PCB warn other independent body not to do what is best for them.

On what basis PCB has this arrogance.
 
saeed5646 said:
I wish some thing extra ordinary happen and ECB let us allow to play home matches in england again which seems veru unlikely due to pathetic statement from ijaz butt and fixing saga
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It's not due to Ijaz Butt that we aren't staging our home series in England but because it would clash with England's county and home international season.
 
jadaja said:
This statement if true shows that PCB has no skill at in dealing with other boards. Why does PCB act all entitled.How in world can PCB warn other independent body not to do what is best for them.

On what basis PCB has this arrogance.
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Because PCB is the main revenue generator for the Emirates Cricket Board. They are a supplier to our board and therefore we are demanding better conditions for us. Very fair demand and far off from entitled.
 
saeed5646 said:
I wish some thing extra ordinary happen and ECB let us allow to play home matches in england again which seems veru unlikely due to pathetic statement from ijaz butt and fixing saga
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Wouldn't it be very expensive for PCB to play home matches in England?
 
Markhor said:
It's not due to Ijaz Butt that we aren't staging our home series in England but because it would clash with England's county and home international season.
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We needs only two grounds and england have plenty they can adjust if pcb deal with them properly
 
Slim said:
Because PCB is the main revenue generator for the Emirates Cricket Board. They are a supplier to our board and therefore we are demanding better conditions for us. Very fair demand and far off from entitled.
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It does not mean that ECB is not entitled to look out for opportunities. They own the stadiums and they should right to do what they choose with them. If PCB has problem it should look out for other avenues.

Has PCB signed any contract which ECB is breaking then ECB is at fault.Otherwise PCB is ridiculous to give a threat, PCB has history of doing these types of things.

It also demanded that BCB tour Pakistan when no other team is willing to do it.
 
BlackShadow said:
Wouldn't it be very expensive for PCB to play home matches in England?
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No idea but there is huge number of pakistani in england so crowd will come for matches unlike uae where there is none in test and odis alteast they will get decent gate money
 
jadaja said:
It does not mean that ECB is not entitled to look out for opportunities. They own the stadiums and they should right to do what they choose with them. If PCB has problem it should look out for other avenues.

Has PCB signed any contract which ECB is breaking then ECB is at fault.Otherwise PCB is ridiculous to give a threat, PCB has history of doing these types of things.

It also demanded that BCB tour Pakistan when no other team is willing to do it.
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Ideally, it is their right to do whatever they want but PCB hold a massive leverage over them and therefore they can have their way in this. PCB will try to solve its problems in the way it suits them.
 
saeed5646 said:
No idea but there is huge number of pakistani in england so crowd will come for matches unlike uae where there is none in test and odis alteast they will get decent gate money
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Gate money is peanuts.
 
Markhor said:
According to reports, the UAE board have sanctioned their own T20 competition for the next 10 years, and will host this joke T10 event that somehow gets another edition. This will mess up our "home" international season for the forseeable future as we won't be able to play in Dec and Jan thanks to these mickey mouse tournaments the Emiratis want to stage.

These T20/T10 competitions in the UAE as Al Jazeera exposed with the Ajman All Stars event are just a front for match fixers.

PCB pays extortionate rates to play in these god forsaken venues that nobody would turn up to if it wasn't for Pakistan internationals. PCB are in a tough spot now as this reduces their scheduling flexibility, and may accelerate the process of returning international cricket to Pakistan.
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If PCB doesnt allow its players to play in the league, they ll have to play all the matches in an empty stadium
 
jadaja said:
This statement if true shows that PCB has no skill at in dealing with other boards. Why does PCB act all entitled.How in world can PCB warn other independent body not to do what is best for them.

On what basis PCB has this arrogance.
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Rich to see this coming from the BCCI.
 
Slim said:
Ideally, it is their right to do whatever they want but PCB hold a massive leverage over them and therefore they can have their way in this. PCB will try to solve its problems in the way it suits them.
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Of course it will solve in way it suits them but it certainly does not look good .
 
Play PSL in London, and other matches in Sri Lanka/Bangladesh
 
DUBAI: The Emirates Cricket Board has decided to launch their own new elite international Twenty20 cricket league.

The tournament that will be held under the auspices of the International Cricket Council (ICC), will be unveiled formally later this month in the UAE.

The name of tournament will be announced later this month and will make its debut in Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Sharjah with five new franchise teams vying for the inaugural title. In all, 22 matches will be played over 24 days in December-January.

The five franchises will comprise a squad of 16 featuring six current international star players, two emerging players from ICC full member countries, three players from ICC associate member nations, two junior players and three UAE cricketers.ECB is of the view that no other T20 competition has been established with these developmental goals at their core, and no other event will showcase such a wide array of international talent.

“Our firm aim is for this event to take the sport to all corners of the UAE and to develop cricket at a grassroots level initially in — Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ajman and Ras Al Khaimah. This will not be just another T20 tournament, it will be a true international festival of sport and the hottest cricket ticket in the UAE,” said David East, chief executive of the ECB.

The event has already received the support of six cricket boards of ICC full member nations — England & Wales, Ireland, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, New Zealand and the West Indies — and organisers are looking forward to receiving the support of the ICC associate member countries.

“We are confident that this new event will play a big role in growing the game, inspiring, promoting and developing the sport in order to add to the already world-leading UAE cricketing and sporting landscape,” said Zayed Abbas, ECB Board member and official spokesperson.

Dr Nasim Ashraf, chairman of the T20 League board of directors, former chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and ECB Board member, says that the new competition has been conceived to be a unique platform for the development of the best young cricket talent from around the world.

“Our intention is to build a new event that is here to stay, and one that occupies a niche position in the international cricket calendar. We are not looking to compete with other T20 leagues, we are looking to develop an international festival of cricket that exists first and foremost for the benefit of the players, and with a very specific goal of helping to develop new talent from around the world and grow the game in keeping with global best practices,” said Dr Nasim.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1412040/uae-announces-franchise-cricket-league


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This could prompt Pakistan moving to Malaysia?
 
Just come to Malaysia already:ma

Don't worry about crowds, all the grounds are in KL and there are ample of Pakistanis in that city to fill it up day in day out. The only downside is the drop in pitches (due to grounds being multipurpse with Football and Hockey).

Wouldn't be a bad alternative and much cheaper than UAE, to be honest!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Just come to Malaysia already:ma

Don't worry about crowds, all the grounds are in KL and there are ample of Pakistanis in that city to fill it up day in day out. The only downside is the drop in pitches (due to grounds being multipurpse with Football and Hockey).

Wouldn't be a bad alternative and much cheaper than UAE, to be honest!
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Worth trying - although very hot year round.

Anything is better than the dire UAE. Boring, attritional cricket, awful watching experience, no crowds. Only a notch above not playing at all.
 
As I suggested already, Pakistan should make China their home base. Throw in half a billion $ to build some stadiums. And capture a one and half billion audience!

:sa
 
MenInG said:
DUBAI: The Emirates Cricket Board has decided to launch their own new elite international Twenty20 cricket league.
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Another T20 league.... Another window...

International cricket may die altogether at this rate :sanga
 
Dr Nasim Ashraf, chairman of the T20 League board of directors, former chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and ECB Board member, says that the new competition has been conceived to be a unique platform for the development of the best young cricket talent from around the world.

This guy?? I cant believe anyone would let this individual anywhere near cricket!! I truly despise him!!
 
What will happen if bcci agrees for a series with pak? As UAE is out of question instead of hosting india in Malaysia better to host india in India itself and then get a share in the revenue:yk
 
PCB warned the ECB and also demanded written apology.
Wow....So ECB which allows PCB to host games...is being asked by PCB to not organise a tournament in their own country on their own cricket grounds.
Ipichka....with this attitude...if PCB had power and $$$ of BCCI, it would probably have warned other boards not to select player x or y when playing Pakistan.
 
All drama.

Malaysia doesn't have any proper ground, neither any audience.

PCB has no other choice but stick to UAE.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Just come to Malaysia already:ma

Don't worry about crowds, all the grounds are in KL and there are ample of Pakistanis in that city to fill it up day in day out. The only downside is the drop in pitches (due to grounds being multipurpse with Football and Hockey).

Wouldn't be a bad alternative and much cheaper than UAE, to be honest!
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I agree, we should definitely look towards having our LOI series there for starters. Time to show UAE board their aukat.
 
mp812rediff said:
PCB warned the ECB and also demanded written apology.
Wow....So ECB which allows PCB to host games...is being asked by PCB to not organise a tournament in their own country on their own cricket grounds.
Ipichka....with this attitude...if PCB had power and $$$ of BCCI, it would probably have warned other boards not to select player x or y when playing Pakistan.
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Oh bhai, ironic to see a patronising tone from your type of people. PCB has a lot of leverage over ECB because we are their main and biggest customers. If you have a slight bit of business acumen, you would know. Its not ethical and pretty despicable but PCB is trying to protect its interests.
 
England or Australia are the best choices.The grounds are excellent in England and there is plenty of support for Pakistan.
 
Slim said:
I agree, we should definitely look towards having our LOI series there for starters. Time to show UAE board their aukat.
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Stop living in fool's paradise.

Malaysia will never be chosen, makes no financial, or practical sense. There's nothing cricket related there, especially international cricket quality.

Do not try to link me to any grounds that are not international standard, I know about them.

And the audience is non-existent as compared to UAE. So, those club level grounds won't be filled either.
 
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I agree, we should definitely look towards having our LOI series there for starters. Time to show UAE board their aukat.
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Once PCB starts hosting their matches in Pakistan what would ECB do. ECB is very reasonable in looking to expand on their own and not depend on revenues from renting the stadiums.

I don't know why is that so hard to understand.
 
Hawkeye said:
Stop living in fool's paradise.

Malaysia will never be chosen, makes no financial, or practical sense. There's nothing cricket related there, especially international cricket quality.

Do not try to link me to any grounds that are not international standard, I know about them.

And the audience is non-existent as compared to UAE. So, those club level grounds won't be filled either.
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The number of expats living in Malaysia is 50% of UAE's expats ( who are mostly compromised of laborers or low skilled workers).

The stadiums have capacity of around 4 to 5 thousand.

First, gate money is insignificant in both cases and therefore wont be an issue.
Second, Malay cricket board would be more receptive of PCB as it will be a huge opportunity for them and Malays are big supporters of the Muslim Ummah concept as compared to the UAE.
Third, we dont have to shift all of the cricket to Malaysia. Maybe we should diversify our suppliers ( UAE & Malaysia) and thus do not get dependent on them.

Kinnara Academy Oval is an ICC recognized stadium.
 
Hawkeye said:
All drama.

Malaysia doesn't have any proper ground, neither any audience.

PCB has no other choice but stick to UAE.
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They have proper grounds mate, ICC U19 tournaments have been going on here since quite a long time now.
 
pcb should shift part of its matches to Malaysia ,once it hits ecb pockets they will regain there senses
 
Why not just move it entirely to Pakistan instead of looking for other foreign venues? I mean, those foreign players who are willing to come to Pakistan for 50% of the tournament won’t mind playing the entire tournament there either. You guys should somehow make it happen.
 
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