PCB lawyer admits no incriminating evidence in Sharjeel Khan's phone - So where is the evidence?

[Rana]

Watched the entire tv interview with Sharjeel, his lawyer and the PCB lawyer. According to Salman (PCB lawyer), Sharjeel had a 15-20 minute discussion with a bookie who told him what to do and Sharjeel played along with the discussion asking him when and how the payments would be made if the fix goes on. So PCB made up this theory on thin air or did they record this conversation between Sharjeel and the bookie? If no true record is produced, how can anyone be sure that Sharjeel agreed in the 15-20 minute conversation to carry out what he was asked to do? Secondly, Amir shot himself in the foot when he replied "how much?" To an offer made to him via text on his phone. But nothing of this sort, nor any dodgy conversations between him and Khalid or Nasir Jamshed, or the bookie were found on Sharjeel's phone...so where exactly is the clear cut evidence that suggests Sharjeel without a shadow of a doubt carried out a plan to fix?

 

[Syed1]

There is no evidence, otherwise they would have released it by now.


Sharjeel got banned to soothe corrupt Sethi's ego.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

There isn't any.

 

[Rana]

The PCB chairman made it sound as if he was being kind to Sharjeel by not disclosing evidence on national tv. When put on the spot, and was called out for changing his statement, all of his coolness and confidence on TV pretty much deflated like a punctured tyre. All he did throughout the entire interview was pick up a piece of paper and read how the independent tribunal unanimously believed Sharjeel carried out a fix. He just kept reading that booklet. I honestly feel that Sharjeel has been let down by his average lawyer. A much better lawyer in his high court appeal and Sharjeel will be back in no time. There really isn't any solid, concrete evidence against him. And this isn't like Chris Cairns where legit ATGs testified under oath against him, but was still not guilty. The poor lad Sharjeel is only guilty of not reporting his offer.

 

[Rana]

Sharjeel still has not been given back his phone. Why? Are PCB trying to dig evidence out of an empty grave? Or are they still keeping it to frame the guy when they have to produce a solid case in the Supreme Court?

 

[Sean143]

The PCB chairman made it sound as if he was being kind to Sharjeel by not disclosing evidence on national tv. When put on the spot, and was called out for changing his statement, all of his coolness and confidence on TV pretty much deflated like a punctured tyre. All he did throughout the entire interview was pick up a piece of paper and read how the independent tribunal unanimously believed Sharjeel carried out a fix. He just kept reading that booklet. I honestly feel that Sharjeel has been let down by his average lawyer. A much better lawyer in his high court appeal and Sharjeel will be back in no time. There really isn't any solid, concrete evidence against him. And this isn't like Chris Cairns where legit ATGs testified under oath against him, but was still not guilty. The poor lad Sharjeel is only guilty of not reporting his offer.

we don't know much about the case but if what you believe is true then It really hurts me to the core of my heart to see such a promising player go away like that

 

[CricketAnalyst]

It's just absolutely absurd.

In any developed country the board would be looking at multi-million dollar compensation to the player and punitive damages, not to mention written promises of fair treatment in the future.

In India and Pakistan it doesn't even matter. Even if the Court overturns the ban (as it will) they simply won't pick him.

Not to mention compensate him for the enormous earnings losses, damage to his image, stress etc.

 

[MMHS]

It was so obvious from the process - PCB wanted "own" men in the closed door. Can SK go to some sports court through FICA or such?

 

[Major]

if there is a problem, go to appeal courts.

stop arguing.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Not a great time to be Najam Sethi right now. From being accused of wrongfully endorsing a do number league to having no evidence in a spot fixing case.

 

[Railu Katta]

Sethi has a huge ego and if he actually had evidence, he would be going on all the tv shows and showing the evidence. He has nothing to back up his farfetched claims so he's just doing it to stroke his own ego. Inb4 all the Pseudo-Pakistanis take over this thread.

 

[babajee]

Scapegoat

If they had the evidence PCB would have been the first organisation to release it.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Scapegoat

If they had the evidence PCB would have been the first organisation to leak it.

Fixed.

 

[KyoOne]

I do hope he appeals in International or national court, whatever the law allows him to.

Sharjeel surely deserves a large compensation from PCB for their absurd allegations/trial. Can never trust PCB to carry out any dealing transparently and fairly.

Will be a big slap to the egoistic Sethi

 

[Misia]

Big TV anchor doing what he does best getting maximum world publicity for PSL

 

[babajee]

So annoying

 

[Rana]

According to the PCB Lawyer, if the PCB didnt put a halt on Sharjeel and Khalid, we would have seen an exchange of money swapping hands with time.

This is like a lawyer anticipating about a potentially violent person who may have made a hollow threat to kill at some point, that 'if we did not stop this person whilst he was taking a stroll in the park, we would have seen him murder someone'.

How can the prosecution be allowed to anticipate such bold claims and get away with it?

 

[MenInG]

Not sure why a legal proceeding was hashed out in public, surely no way to judge this in 10 15 min quotes?

 

[Rana]

Not sure why a legal proceeding was hashed out in public, surely no way to judge this in 10 15 min quotes?

Agreed, but in these 10-15 minutes, the lawyer gave away the most vital information that could possibly expose the weak case of the PCB in the long run. A simple statement of 'There was no incriminating evidence found in Sharjeel's phone', is more than good enough question the entire prosecution case against Sharjeel. The tribunal ordered PCB to return Sharjeel's phone and they are yet to do so.

When nailing culprits in such cases, telephone calls, messages and the usage of internet data plays a key role in building the case for the prosecution. But the prosecution lawyer admitted on national TV that there was no evidence as such found in nay of these mediums!

 

[Rana]

I am no body language expert, but I can see a clear difference in the body language of Sharjeel Khan and Salman Butt at the time when he was professing his innocence. Sharjeel genuinely speaks like a guy that has not done anything wrong besides not reporting his offer.

 

[MenInG]

Agreed, but in these 10-15 minutes, the lawyer gave away the most vital information that could possibly expose the weak case of the PCB in the long run. A simple statement of 'There was no incriminating evidence found in Sharjeel's phone', is more than good enough question the entire prosecution case against Sharjeel. The tribunal ordered PCB to return Sharjeel's phone and they are yet to do so.

When nailing culprits in such cases, telephone calls, messages and the usage of internet data plays a key role in building the case for the prosecution. But the prosecution lawyer admitted on national TV that there was no evidence as such found in nay of these mediums!

But did the PCB have their legal advisor there to answer? The program had an anti-PCB agenda which is connected to the T10 thing....

 

[Rana]

But did the PCB have their legal advisor there to answer? The program had an anti-PCB agenda which is connected to the T10 thing....

Whoever this guy Salman was, he took prior permission from the PCB to discuss this case in public. Everything he discussed especially when put on the spot was PCB's version. I believe Taffazul Rizvi would not have made the silly mistake of exposing the fact no evidence was found in Sharjeel's phone. I cannot imagine now that Rizvi would go to the high court saying Mr Salman was misinformed about such information and the PCB has enough incriminating evidence found o Sharjeel's phone. Im telling you now, a real barrister from lincoln's inn would absolutely tear apart the PCB prosecution on the basis of Salman's statement. Sharjeel's lawyer seems too laid back

 

[Savak]

The PCB would be stupid to throw away a talent like Sharjeel just like that.

 

[Rana]

The PCB would be stupid to throw away a talent like Sharjeel just like that.

Before I was under the impression maybe these claims of making Sharjeel a scapegoat to safeguard Sethi's ego may have been a false accusations. But I really cannot understand how a jury would find Sharjeel khan guilty of spot fixing when there really isnt any evidence against him besides him admitting not to report an offer of fixing.

Where is the proof that an agreement was made to fix? Where is the proof that payments were to be made? where is the proof that the bookie and the players acknowledged that the job has been done, so the payment is now scheduled to be delivered?

 

[mak36]

Before I was under the impression maybe these claims of making Sharjeel a scapegoat to safeguard Sethi's ego may have been a false accusations. But I really cannot understand how a jury would find Sharjeel khan guilty of spot fixing when there really isnt any evidence against him besides him admitting not to report an offer of fixing.

Where is the proof that an agreement was made to fix? Where is the proof that payments were to be made? where is the proof that the bookie and the players acknowledged that the job has been done, so the payment is now scheduled to be delivered?

Have you read the tribunal's decision?

The answers to your questions are in it.

 

[Rana]

Have you read the tribunal's decision?

The answers to your questions are in it.

“The narration of the events, as made by the PCB, in the opening brief and substantiated by witnesses and circumstances narrated before us, not only by the witnesses of PCB, but by other relevant material available on record, we have come to the irrefutable conclusion that not only spot fixing was discussed by Mr. Sharjeel Khan, but was meticulously executed by him in a text book manner, in the mode and manner agreed,” reads the detailed verdict."

All of this makes sense to ban him, but I wonder where is that 'relevant material on record'?

 

[Savak]

Evidence that apparently the ECB has against Danish Kaneria hasn't been made public and Kaneria has been demanding the ECB and the English courts to make the evidence against him public, to make his trial public, but the ECB and the courts have had the position that the evidence cannot be made public.

Haven't seen any Pakistani fans make a big deal out of this because it is a foreign court, foreign legal system and therefore it is guaranteed that there is no hanky panky involved. But here we are questioning the PCB and our own legal commission?

 

[Rana]

Evidence that apparently the ECB has against Danish Kaneria hasn't been made public and Kaneria has been demanding the ECB and the English courts to make the evidence against him public, to make his trial public, but the ECB and the courts have had the position that the evidence cannot be made public.

Haven't seen any Pakistani fans make a big deal out of this because it is a foreign court, foreign legal system and therefore it is guaranteed that there is no hanky panky involved. But here we are questioning the PCB and our own legal commission?

Good point. I think the caliber of the player really matters in this issue. Had Kaneria been one of Pakistan's most important players, lets say it was Yasir shah playing for a county side these days and he is to be tried and banned at such a time...then the entire issue gets a lot more coverage and the pressure to release evidence and give closure to the Pakistani nation who's hero has been taken away from. This is why Sharjeel and Amir's cases are given far more sympathy and the demand to have 100% solid evidence against them matters a lot more, because essentially these are two players who the fans love. It really is down to the pressure of the media, rather than the players to make that evidence public. In Kaneria's case I wouldnt say that PCB and Pakistani media just surrendered to the verdict of the English laws and the ECB just because the English legal system is unquestionable, but I simply say that a player with hardly enough popularity amongst the fans and was asccociated with a shady team that toured Australia and England in 2009-10 for the Media or the PCB to really care for his case.

Sharjeel's case erupts at a time when PCB has done extremely well to clear its name, when players are given countless lectures and reminders of reporting any such offers, and the prime examples of the trio that have been shamed for life. Also the fact that Sharjeel was the only player left in the Pakistan side who could actually attract a crowed or any interest for fans around the world due to his dynamic batting.

 

[MRSN]

To be honest, you could read from their faces that they had done something wrong otherwise they would have come out clearly against the allegations and not looked so confused.

 

[Rana]

To be honest, you could read from their faces that they had done something wrong otherwise they would have come out clearly against the allegations and not looked so confused.

Yes. Sharjeel deserves a 1 year ban for meeting a person he was warned about and not reporting it.

 

[MRSN]

Yes. Sharjeel deserves a 1 year ban for meeting a person he was warned about and not reporting it.

I fail to believe that PCB would have taken such a strict action if there wasn't anything serious. Irfan got six months ban because he failed to report and PCB was happy about that. Why not Sharjeel and Latif? Why PCB wanted heavier bans for both of them if there wasn't anything concrete?

 

[Rana]

I fail to believe that PCB would have taken such a strict action if there wasn't anything serious. Irfan got six months ban because he failed to report and PCB was happy about that. Why not Sharjeel and Latif? Why PCB wanted heavier bans for both of them if there wasn't anything concrete?

That is totally understandable but the only piece of evidence released so far by the PCB is that nothing incriminating was found on Sharjeel's phone. So how can they be certain that Sharjeel agreed to do a fix when Sharjeel is publicly denying it? What is that 'irrefutable' evidence that pins down Sharjeel for fixing?

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

So you want us to believe that PCB who directly benefits from a player like Sharjeel banned on false evidence and framed him? The same PCB that asked ICC for Amir to return 6 month earlier to domestic cricket and since included him in the team.

I am 100% Sharjeel is guilty.

Also you purposely did not include other points the PCB laywer made that goes against Sharjeel.

 

[Rana]

So you want us to believe that PCB who directly benefits from a player like Sharjeel banned on false evidence and framed him? The same PCB that asked ICC for Amir to return 6 month earlier to domestic cricket and since included him in the team.

I am 100% Sharjeel is guilty.

Also you purposely did not include other points the PCB laywer made that goes against Sharjeel.

I don't want you to believe anything. I simply cannot believe a person can be proven guilty for match fixing when his phone, the main gadget that can destroy a culprit has nothing of that sort to suggest he agreed all of those things

 

[asifp]

So you want us to believe that PCB who directly benefits from a player like Sharjeel banned on false evidence and framed him? The same PCB that asked ICC for Amir to return 6 month earlier to domestic cricket and since included him in the team.

I am 100% Sharjeel is guilty.

Also you purposely did not include other points the PCB laywer made that goes against Sharjeel.

Pakistan benefits from Sharjeel playing

Najam Sethi's ego wins from Sharjeel staying banned. He made such a huge deal about it to come across as some anti corruption crusader. No way he lets Sharjeel comes back

 

[Pete Rose]

OP heard some stuff on TV, assumes that he knows all facets of case.
Sharjeel went through a process which he signed up for and was found guilty . End of story

 

[ManFan]

Sethi supporters nowhere to be seen.

 

[KyoOne]

OP heard some stuff on TV, assumes that he knows all facets of case.
Sharjeel went through a process which he signed up for and was found guilty . End of story

He was never 'found' guilty. It was merely hearsay, on which bases he's been proclaimed guilty

 

[Pete Rose]

He was never 'found' guilty. It was merely hearsay, on which bases he's been proclaimed guilty

Yes, plenty of lawyers on the forum. Last time they showed up was when the other three disgraced themselves in the UK

 

[KyoOne]

Yes, plenty of lawyers on the forum. Last time they showed up was when the other three disgraced themselves in the UK

I never vouched for the trio back in 2010 for the evidence was daylight obvious.

Where is the evidence in case of Sharjeel? Just because PCB suspects through hearsay that he spot fixed it cannot ban him for it. That is not a credible evidence in any court of law.

Its all flimsy the way PCB has held the trial and the evidence they have presented to ban the player

 

[Rana]

Yes, plenty of lawyers on the forum. Last time they showed up was when the other three disgraced themselves in the UK

OK you are so well versed with the law compared to all the other so called lawyers, tell me how do you explain banning a person regarding whom no incriminating evidence was found on his mobile phone?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Yes, plenty of lawyers on the forum. Last time they showed up was when the other three disgraced themselves in the UK

PCB leaks important documents left, right and centre. The clown that continuously does it has also been identified once when a former coach was furious about the leak. I'm sure you are familiar with that story.

Why hasn't PCB released even an iota of evidence for this case is beyond me. Ban Sharjeel for life if he has done spot fixing. Its a major crime in any sport. Salman, Asif and Amir went to hell and back for it. Why does an 'independent' tribunal enforce a ban of ONLY 2.5 years, with the PCB harking on about a life ban in the background, if there is IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Sharjeel Khan did spot fixing?

Also Colonel Azam's role since the beginning is questionable. If you have IRREFUTABLE evidence, why would you continuously threaten and harrass the defendant for hours and hours? PCB might be right, Sharjeel might be right, but the way the cricket board of our country represents itself in EVERY matter is a pathetic joke. In no other country is the chairman such a massive attention seeking loony toon.

 

[Rana]

PCB leaks important documents left, right and centre. The clown that continuously does it has also been identified once when a former coach was furious about the leak. I'm sure you are familiar with that story.

Why hasn't PCB released even an iota of evidence for this case is beyond me. Ban Sharjeel for life if he has done spot fixing. Its a major crime in any sport. Salman, Asif and Amir went to hell and back for it. Why does an 'independent' tribunal enforce a ban of ONLY 2.5 years, with the PCB harking on about a life ban in the background, if there is IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Sharjeel Khan did spot fixing?

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Also Colonel Azam's role since the beginning is questionable. If you have IRREFUTABLE evidence, why would you continuously threaten and harrass the defendant for hours and hours? PCB might be right, Sharjeel might be right, but the way the cricket board of our country represents itself in EVERY matter is a pathetic joke. In no other country is the chairman such a massive attention seeking loony toon.

Spot on. If Sharjeel is guilty especially after the Amir saga, he should be banned for life and not 2.5 years. Also how does colonel Azam justify the 4 hours threatening on two seperate days?

 

[Pete Rose]

PCB leaks important documents left, right and centre. The clown that continuously does it has also been identified once when a former coach was furious about the leak. I'm sure you are familiar with that story.

Why hasn't PCB released even an iota of evidence for this case is beyond me. Ban Sharjeel for life if he has done spot fixing. Its a major crime in any sport. Salman, Asif and Amir went to hell and back for it. Why does an 'independent' tribunal enforce a ban of ONLY 2.5 years, with the PCB harking on about a life ban in the background, if there is IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Sharjeel Khan did spot fixing?

Also Colonel Azam's role since the beginning is questionable. If you have IRREFUTABLE evidence, why would you continuously threaten and harrass the defendant for hours and hours? PCB might be right, Sharjeel might be right, but the way the cricket board of our country represents itself in EVERY matter is a pathetic joke. In no other country is the chairman such a massive attention seeking loony toon.

The pcb owe you or me no transparency. It is not a criminal investigation, it’s a pcb tribunal . The standards of evidence may or may not vary.
Just because some disgraced cheat and his attorney are invoking God and trying up to muddy the waters, does not make the outcome flawed.

 

[ahmedzee]

Ive been saying this since day 1, where is the damn evidence???? If there was an evidence, it would've been released. PCB is not an organization that would hold an evidence like this. From the looks of it, Sharjeel had an approach from a bookie and didn't disclose it to the pcb. That's his only crime which deserves the same punishment as the rest of the players (such as nawaz, irfan, etc.).

 

[srh]

According to the PCB Lawyer, if the PCB didnt put a halt on Sharjeel and Khalid, we would have seen an exchange of money swapping hands with time.

This is like a lawyer anticipating about a potentially violent person who may have made a hollow threat to kill at some point, that 'if we did not stop this person whilst he was taking a stroll in the park, we would have seen him murder someone'.

How can the prosecution be allowed to anticipate such bold claims and get away with it?

This reminds me of Tom Cruise's movie "Minority Report"

 

[Pete Rose]

OK you are so well versed with the law compared to all the other so called lawyers, tell me how do you explain banning a person regarding whom no incriminating evidence was found on his mobile phone?

Can you tell me with 100% certainty that you have seen each and every piece of evidence against Sharjeel? Are you intimately aware of everything sharjeel said during the tribunal?
No you are not and neither am I.
The word of a cheat and some half utterance on tv is not enough to change anything

 

[Pete Rose]

I never vouched for the trio back in 2010 for the evidence was daylight obvious.

Where is the evidence in case of Sharjeel? Just because PCB suspects through hearsay that he spot fixed it cannot ban him for it. That is not a credible evidence in any court of law.

Its all flimsy the way PCB has held the trial and the evidence they have presented to ban the player

My question is who made you the judge that you are owed any exposure of any evidence in this case? Were you invited to review the documents?

 

[Pete Rose]

It's just absolutely absurd.

In any developed country the board would be looking at multi-million dollar compensation to the player and punitive damages, not to mention written promises of fair treatment in the future.

In India and Pakistan it doesn't even matter. Even if the Court overturns the ban (as it will) they simply won't pick him.

Not to mention compensate him for the enormous earnings losses, damage to his image, stress etc.

Why is It absurd?

 

[CadPakFan]

This just shows the ego of Sethi.

 

[Rana]

Can you tell me with 100% certainty that you have seen each and every piece of evidence against Sharjeel? Are you intimately aware of everything sharjeel said during the tribunal?
No you are not and neither am I.
The word of a cheat and some half utterance on tv is not enough to change anything

I would love to be aware of what unfolded in that tribunal. All I actually know is that the PCB lawyer said..

1. nothing was found on his phone
2. Sharjeel agreed to fix at a restraunt...but no video or audio recording of this.
3. Colonal Azam knew about a fix and let it happen. This is a fix upon which millions of pounds were betted on apparently and The colonel let the crime take place.
4. Sharjeel purposely played two dot balls, although he set off to take a run on the second ball only to be called back by the non striker

 

[Pete Rose]

I would love to be aware of what unfolded in that tribunal. All I actually know is that the PCB lawyer said..

1. nothing was found on his phone
2. Sharjeel agreed to fix at a restraunt...but no video or audio recording of this.
3. Colonal Azam knew about a fix and let it happen. This is a fix upon which millions of pounds were betted on apparently and The colonel let the crime take place.
4. Sharjeel purposely played two dot balls, although he set off to take a run on the second ball only to be called back by the non striker

So you know nothing beyond what’s reported. Ok.

 

[Rana]

So you know nothing beyond what’s reported. Ok.

Well if you read the title, I am asking where is the evidence to suggest that he is undeniably guilty? Can you help me because I don't think holding prejudice to Pakistan cricket is really helping in finding my answer

 

[Pete Rose]

Well if you read the title, I am asking where is the evidence to suggest that he is undeniably guilty? Can you help me because I don't think holding prejudice to Pakistan cricket is really helping in finding my answer

Maybe you should start with why is he not guilty and not the other way around. There are thousands of people found guilty on a daily basis and I never start with thinking ‘well since I don’t know enough about the case, let m assume the person is not guilty’
All the speculation on this thread and elsewhere is built on incomplete knowledge. And no one is going to fill those knowledge gaps because you or I are not party to this case. All I know is he was found guilty by process and now like ata ur Rehman Salem Malik and other disgraceful characters Sharjeel can go around babbling about imaginary faults in the process.

 

[Mamoon]

This thread is a good example of why the fixing culture will never eradicate from Pakistan cricket. Players like Sharjeel are aware of the fact that people will come out in hoards to defend them, and they can invoke their emotions by using God as their witness.

The PCB is under no obligation to reveal the evidence to the general public. They have a system and they have found him guilty, that is all.

Unfortunately, that is too logical and boring. The narrative that Saint Sharjeel has been framed by Sethi who wants to make himself look good is far from gripping.

 

[Usman Chadda]

The pcb owe you or me no transparency. It is not a criminal investigation, it’s a pcb tribunal . The standards of evidence may or may not vary.
Just because some disgraced cheat and his attorney are invoking God and trying up to muddy the waters, does not make the outcome flawed.

Then why does the GM Legal of the Pakistan Cricket Board appear on a TV Show and proceeds to clarify the allegations thrown on this case and the PCB ACU live on television?

Also the PCB has a colorful track record of releasing VERY IMPORTANT information and documents to parts of the media. Whether they owe you or me anything is immaterial, but the silence of the 'PCB sources' in THIS case is extremely surprising.

 

[Pete Rose]

Then why does the GM Legal of the Pakistan Cricket Board appear on a TV Show and proceeds to clarify the allegations thrown on this case and the PCB ACU live on television?

Also the PCB has a colorful track record of releasing VERY IMPORTANT information and documents to parts of the media. Whether they owe you or me anything is immaterial, but the silence of the 'PCB sources' in THIS case is extremely surprising.

Silence? What silence? Who asked a question that needs to be answered? It’s not how tribunals work ‘I don’t like the decision but I head some stuff on tv which may or may not be everything about the case, but it was enough to surmise that the player I like is not guilty and you did not answer my question, hence your silence is deafening and hence it is all a conspiracy’
Did I miss anything?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Maybe you should start with why is he not guilty and not the other way around. There are thousands of people found guilty on a daily basis and I never start with thinking ‘well since I don’t know enough about the case, let m assume the person is not guilty’
All the speculation on this thread and elsewhere is built on incomplete knowledge. And no one is going to fill those knowledge gaps because you or I are not party to this case. All I know is he was found guilty by process and now like ata ur Rehman Salem Malik and other disgraceful characters Sharjeel can go around babbling about imaginary faults in the process.

As far as I remember, correct me if I am wrong, the onus was on PCB to prove Sharjeel's guilt. Which they believe they have. The public doesn't know anything besides the five charges slapped on the cricketer. The ex-cricketers who were in the loop are giving condratictory statements left, right and centre depending on which agenda they are inclined towards. Sharjeel, his lawyer and a major production house heavily biased against the PCB are outright denying the allegations on LIVE TELEVISION. All of this speculation could be nipped in the bud if PCB releases the evidence that incriminated both Sharjeel and Khalid Latif. When you have a track record of releasing even the most silliest of information, something this big going missing is shocking to say the least.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Silence? What silence? Who asked a question that needs to be answered? It’s not how tribunals work ‘I don’t like the decision but I head some stuff on tv which may or may not be everything about the case, but it was enough to surmise that the player I like is not guilty and you did not answer my question, hence your silence is deafening and hence it is all a conspiracy’
Did I miss anything?

I don't think you have followed Pakistan cricket enough to know how things work here. Guess you've started watching cricket recently and haven't spent much time in Pakistan.

 

[Pete Rose]

As far as I remember, correct me if I am wrong, the onus was on PCB to prove Sharjeel's guilt. Which they believe they have. The public doesn't know anything besides the five charges slapped on the cricketer. The ex-cricketers who were in the loop are giving condratictory statements left, right and centre depending on which agenda they are inclined towards. Sharjeel, his lawyer and a major production house heavily biased against the PCB are outright denying the allegations on LIVE TELEVISION. All of this speculation could be nipped in the bud if PCB releases the evidence that incriminated both Sharjeel and Khalid Latif. When you have a track record of releasing even the most silliest of information, something this big going missing is shocking to say the least.

2/3rds of your post reveals the issue. Pcb owes nothing to anyone with an agenda

 

[Pete Rose]

I don't think you have followed Pakistan cricket enough to know how things work here. Guess you've started watching cricket recently and haven't spent much time in Pakistan.

Followed it long enough to know that we have a disproportionate share of fixers, dopers (recreational and performance) and tamperers

 

[Usman Chadda]

2/3rds of your post reveals the issue. Pcb owes nothing to anyone with an agenda

People with agendas are playing on the inconsistent policies of the PCB.

Furthermore, the GM Legal of the PCB invited one of those people to his office to look at the evidence. Guess the PCB believes that it does owe them an explanation after all?

 

[Savak]

If the evidence against Kaneria was not made public then no need to release the evidence against Sharjeel and Khalid Latif to the media. Fair is Fair.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

This thread is a good example of why the fixing culture will never eradicate from Pakistan cricket. Players like Sharjeel are aware of the fact that people will come out in hoards to defend them, and they can invoke their emotions by using God as their witness.

The PCB is under no obligation to reveal the evidence to the general public. They have a system and they have found him guilty, that is all.

Unfortunately, that is too logical and boring. The narrative that Saint Sharjeel has been framed by Sethi who wants to make himself look good is far from gripping.

True. True. And true.

Sharjeel should never have continued the conversation once he knew that the other party was a bookie.

He can't blame anyone.

 

[Rana]

Silence? What silence? Who asked a question that needs to be answered? It’s not how tribunals work ‘I don’t like the decision but I head some stuff on tv which may or may not be everything about the case, but it was enough to surmise that the player I like is not guilty and you did not answer my question, hence your silence is deafening and hence it is all a conspiracy’
Did I miss anything?

Why are you making lewd assumptions about me or who I like as a player? You seem like a pointless person to argue with on such a topic because you are completely under the impression that anything wrong associated with sports is a given with Pakistani players. It was a simple question and even you have time and time dodged it just like all of those that are certain the guy is guilty...

in this modern day, how can you prove that Sharjeel Khan agreed to fix without any written proof? The mobile phone was ceased, no records of such and nothing deleted was found to incriminate him. So the question stands, how did the tribunal reach an undeniable conclusion?

If you are going to beat around the bush once again and come up with your apparent self proclaimed ability to see things better than the rest, then dont bother answering the question because you simply cannot.

 

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I don't think PCB would readily ban one of their best players if they weren't pretty sure. Think it turned into more of a game of proving Sharjeel was guilty rather than if he was or not. The way the lawyers and general defense acted was fishy from both Latif and Sharjeel. Latif seemed to be stalling. Sharjeel initially did not admit any meeting with the bookies before conceding to meeting them and according to the lawyer they expected a 6 months/1 year ban like the others who failed to report.

Khalid's bat grips incriminated Khalid according to the PCB reports. It is very possible these guys were all working together, especially Khalid and Sharjeel given they even played for the same team. Not to mention that indeed like the trio with the no balls, Sharjeel played the dot balls at the times which the PCB found out the bookies wanted. Could have been a coincidence certainly, but combined with the fact Sharjeel also met the bookie prior, it doesn't look good for him.

So yeah in summary I think Sharjeel is probably guilty, and PCB haven't released the evidence against him. PCB's evidence isn't as concrete as PCB would have liked hence the smaller sentence issued, but is good enough to find him guilty (and guilty of all charges). For example PCB might have evidence of these players deliberately meeting and agreeing to the fix, but don't have evidence of exchanging money (as it was stopped before that). Hence it's hard to issue the full punishment. From PCB's actions in the PSL it seemed like they wanted the fixing to go on long enough so they could catch them (hence they allowed the dot balls to happen), but not long enough so that the tournament would be besmirched. If they wanted to prove without a shadow of the doubt, letting them fix in multiple matches (and possibly proving the exchange of money), and then banning them after the tournament was the way to go. But I don't think the PCB wanted the PSL to be ruined like that. So they made a compromise.

And though kinda unrelated, I am suspicious about the video that Sharjeel didn't want to be released/being blackmailed over. It could be over something personal though I struggle to really imagine what it could be to incur that sort of reaction.