PCB needs to organise an intense fielding training camp asap!

[MenInG]

The problem has now reached epidemic proportions and the reputation of the team is at stake as is that of the coaches.

This is as existential as it gets and mere expression of disgust in press conferences will not suffice

Time for talking over now, time for action is here.

Do it in Kakul or in Hill Park, get on with it

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I don't think a short term approach like this will really work when it comes to fielding. Fielding has to be given importance at the grass roots level. Most Pakistani cricketers (especially bowlers) consider it a chore and don't work on it until they start playing first class cricket or even international cricket sometimes. Fielding is something you need to enjoy. Just look at the way Warner was fielding against us the other day. He was at deep midwicket during Zampas spell and his fielding was something to behold. No matter where the batsmen hit it in that area, he would return the ball so quickly that they could not even think of 2. Mind you, this was after he got a ton. It's like he wants the ball to come to him and the intensity with which he attacks the ball in the field puts the opposition under enormous pressure. He enjoys his fielding and wants to save as many runs as possible for his team in the field. His mindset is very different from our players because he doesn't consider fielding a chore. Our whole outlook has to change from a young age when it comes to fielding.

 

[MenInG]

Intense therapy is needed

Problem with other camps is that they do bit of this and a bit of that

Fielding gets some portion of time but hold an intense 2 week fielding fitness camp

Analyse problems and then tell pcb how many catches fielders dropped and how many throws missed the mark etc

Send out signal to the guys that they could miss out on next tour if they drop 0.01% of catches etc

 

[Bewal Express]

A camp will not make a difference, it's a cultural change that is needed from the grass roots up. The years of corruption, drift and incompetence has started to catch up with the Pcb.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I don't think a short term approach like this will really work when it comes to fielding. Fielding has to be given importance at the grass roots level. Most Pakistani cricketers (especially bowlers) consider it a chore and don't work on it until they start playing first class cricket or even international cricket sometimes. Fielding is something you need to enjoy. Just look at the way Warner was fielding against us the other day. He was at deep midwicket during Zampas spell and his fielding was something to behold. No matter where the batsmen hit it in that area, he would return the ball so quickly that they could not even think of 2. Mind you, this was after he got a ton. It's like he wants the ball to come to him and the intensity with which he attacks the ball in the field puts the opposition under enormous pressure. He enjoys his fielding and wants to save as many runs as possible for his team in the field. His mindset is very different from our players because he doesn't consider fielding a chore. Our whole outlook has to change from a young age when it comes to fielding.

potw... until they fix the domestics nothing will change... when i see the domesctic teams, there are players who are aged 35+ and well below standards playing cricket.. Against them even i can make 100s for fun... For shehzads, butt and kakmal's who has faced int'l level bowlings it is like playing cricket with school boys in Pakistan domestics , even then when they face a half decent bowlers like cheema, asad ali, half-fit irfan , anwar ali, bhatti they struggle..I really wonder how come players like Babar, Haris, Sami in tests come out of these ranks looking at the standards...

 

[MenInG]

Aamir Sohail on TV last night said that he once dropped a catch and misfielded to give away 2 runs

He was told to fix his fielding or lose his place

He said that he worked hard for 3 months with Miandad and fixed his problems

My point is we don't have time for romantic grassroot changes etc

If students can learn languages in weeks then dedicated cricket professionals can fix their problems also

All it needs is a will to do something right

 

[the Great Khan]

link it to their pay packets, then watch how they all improve..and drop anyone who drops a catch or misfields..personally i would not select anyone above the age of 32 in any LOI team..end of..and if sharjeel cant catch then drop him and hassan..sorry but cant catch cant play..

 

[shortbread]

Aamir Sohail on TV last night said that he once dropped a catch and misfielded to give away 2 runs

He was told to fix his fielding or lose his place

He said that he worked hard for 3 months with Miandad and fixed his problems

My point is we don't have time for romantic grassroot changes etc

If students can learn languages in weeks then dedicated cricket professionals can fix their problems also

All it needs is a will to do something right

I completely agree, fielding can be fixed within a set time frame, if the right effort is invested into it. But it starts with fitness. Australia's inner circle is impenetrable, they suffocate the runs by plugging the gaps. Light, lithe fielders are quick on their feet, jump dive, do whatever is needed, quickly back up and fire the ball into the keeper or bowler. Batsmen continue to be stuck in the crease.

It is not just fielding technique but agility is of paramount importance. If one has unnecessary assets around his girth, he would struggle to bend, move quickly due to the additional weight, stop quickly dues to the excess momentum. If you watch Akmal run between wickets you will realize after a quick run he keeps running past the wickets as a quick stop on his feet is not easy for him, his body carries a lot more weight, hence momentum.

link it to their pay packets, then watch how they all improve..and drop anyone who drops a catch or misfields..personally i would not select anyone above the age of 32 in any LOI team..end of..and if sharjeel cant catch then drop him and hassan..sorry but cant catch cant play..

I do not think Sharjeel's misfields are related to pay, he tries very hard on the field. They kept him at crucial spots, a person of his physicality should have been fielding in quieter corners.

 

[dhump]

No these camps do no good and clear waste of time (some players just end up being unfit). Fielding comes up with athletic ability which is depending on how fit you are and our players are unfit and being fit is not a camp based approach, but a life style. So Pakistan need to get over this camp mentality and trigger mindset that enable our players to change their routines in positive direction.

It is absolutely sad that even professional players are unaware of this suggest such solutions.

 

[LordJames]

Fielding is less about drills but more about attitude. You have to want to run around and want the ball to come to you.

No amount of Camps would change an attitude. Pakistan needs to work towards having a mindset change at Grass-roots level.

 

[Hamza78]

Don't worry nothing will happen pcb is a corrupt everyone there for money not for country

 

[todfod 11]

Aamir Sohail on TV last night said that he once dropped a catch and misfielded to give away 2 runs

He was told to fix his fielding or lose his place

He said that he worked hard for 3 months with Miandad and fixed his problems

My point is we don't have time for romantic grassroot changes etc

If students can learn languages in weeks then dedicated cricket professionals can fix their problems also

All it needs is a will to do something right

You need leaders like Imran for that.. ppl now days are more worried about their kursi then their job..
Tell me on what basis Azhar can ask others to fix their fielding when he him self is a dud in fielding?

 

[MenInG]

It's about intense practice

Anything can be improved with practice

 

[JibranAnsari]

Won't help much , we need better training facilities at domestic level. Fielding is about habit , you can't change these mature guys into good fielders by intense training sessions. Not going to happen.

 

[Syed1]

Cannot fix cancer with disprin. I don't think someone like Sharjeel could become a good fielder after going through a fielding camp. However, what we can do is have all the top and emerging domestic cricketers regularly go through these fielding camps every month or so. Inculcate a culture of good fielding in the 20 somethings that are plying away in domestics these days. That would mean that the fielding standard of the international side will automatically improve when these youngsters make it to the national side.

There is no short-cut to hard work.


As we saw with the 'fitness' camp, there was a short-term benefit and cricketers looked fitter but six months down the line ALL of them have reverted to their previous levels of fitness.

 

[Kaiser_Soze]

It all starts with fitness. And that starts with being professional . And that starts with being dedicated.

 

[zn426]

If Pakistan wants to start getting fit, it starts by promoting a countrywide fitness feeding and work-out campaign. No one is fit in Pakistan. Daal isn't that expensive is it? If people are willing to get in shape, they will force their kids to join them.

 

[coy0607]

I dont believe 1-single training camp for fielding will help for more than a series of 2

we saw the same thing after the 'army fitness camp'- the team was very well conditioned in England, but since then everyone has put on weight

fitness and fielding need to become part of the culture, having a training camp will only yield short term results

and becoming a part of culture will have to start from first-class level. Rashid Lafit was saying on 'game on hai' that 4-5 dropped catches is average in a domestic game

 

[dhump]

It's about intense practice

Anything can be improved with practice

I am afraid that fitness cannot be achieved with intense practice yes you can loose some weight or a lot of it but that is not exactly same as being fit. What our players need is change in lifestyle and intense camp will not do this.

We need a strategy to improve this on lower level and force international players to change life style massively. With kind of fitness our players mostly walk they cant compete with other top nations in shorter format which really needs high burst of energy and strong bodies.

 

[JaDed]

Camps can atleast improve the level compared to last match so not sure why posters are against it, with that kind of catching even Ireland might fancy a chance against Pakistan on their day.

 

[MenInG]

I am afraid that fitness cannot be achieved with intense practice yes you can loose some weight or a lot of it but that is not exactly same as being fit. What our players need is change in lifestyle and intense camp will not do this.

We need a strategy to improve this on lower level and force international players to change life style massively. With kind of fitness our players mostly walk they cant compete with other top nations in shorter format which really needs high burst of energy and strong bodies.

I am talking about fielding practice.

Normal camps fielding is just one part

I am suggesting one where every player receives atleast 300 catches or has 100 tries at stumps etc - Something so intense and focused that they eat/drink/sleep fielding.