PCB rejects baseless allegations made by the ACB & revokes NOCs for Pak players in Afg T20 league

[MenInG]

PCB rejects baseless allegations made by the ACB & revokes NOCs for Pak players in Afg T20 league

Press Release

PCB rejects stance of Afghanistan Cricket Board

Lahore June 1:

The PCB strongly rejects the baseless allegations levelled by Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) in the wake of the tragic Kabul blast. While our sympathies are with the victims and families affected by the tragedy, we reject the irresponsible statement made by the ACB and hereby announce the cancellation of the proposed series between the two countries.

PCB has always encouraged the development of cricket in Afghanistan and millions of Afghan refugees were first introduced to the game in Pakistan. Over the years, the PCB helped cricketers in Afghanistan develop their expertise and an entire generation of Afghan national players honed their cricketing skills in Pakistan.

The informal understanding with ACB last weekend was strictly subject to conducive security conditions in Afghanistan and now stands cancelled because of continuing insecurity and instability there.

It is also deeply regrettable that the ACB delegation in Pakistan was at pains to insist that politics should not impinge on cricket but has now turned around and is playing politics by laying the blame for its troubles and inadequacies on Pakistan.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

The PCB replies to the Afghanistan Cricket Board

Lahore June 1, 2017: The PCB strongly rejects the baseless and unsubstantiated allegations levelled by Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) in the wake of the tragic Kabul blast. Our sympathies are with the victims and families affected by the tragedy, However the PCB rejects the careless and irresponsible statement made by the ACB and here by announces the cancellation of the proposed friendly series between the two countries.

PCB has always encouraged the development of cricket in Afghanistan and millions of Afghan refugees were first introduced to the game in Pakistan. Over the years, the PCB helped cricketers in Afghanistan develop their skill and an entire generation of Afghan national players honed their cricketing skills in Pakistan.

The agreement made with ACB last weekend was subject to conducive conditions in Afghanistan and now stands cancelled because of continuing insecurity and instability there. It is regrettable that the ACB delegation insisted that politics should not impinge on cricket is now laying the blame for its troubles and inadequacies elsewhere.

Good,professional reply by PCB.

 

[Sherlock]

The PCB replies to the Afghanistan Cricket Board

Lahore June 1, 2017: The PCB strongly rejects the baseless and unsubstantiated allegations levelled by Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) in the wake of the tragic Kabul blast. Our sympathies are with the victims and families affected by the tragedy, However the PCB rejects the careless and irresponsible statement made by the ACB and here by announces the cancellation of the proposed friendly series between the two countries.

PCB has always encouraged the development of cricket in Afghanistan and millions of Afghan refugees were first introduced to the game in Pakistan. Over the years, the PCB helped cricketers in Afghanistan develop their skill and an entire generation of Afghan national players honed their cricketing skills in Pakistan.

The agreement made with ACB last weekend was subject to conducive conditions in Afghanistan and now stands cancelled because of continuing insecurity and instability there. It is regrettable that the ACB delegation insisted that politics should not impinge on cricket is now laying the blame for its troubles and inadequacies elsewhere.

Good statement that. I'm sure the Afghan board members must be regretting bringing politics into cricket. A rather foolhardy way to go.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Make sure all ties remain cut with them.

 

[Sherlock]

You cannot keep cutting ties because another board criticises you, or cancel a series. In this case I can see the reasons, but there's only so much Pakistan can, and cannot do.

This isn't some Bollywood movie from the 90's where both warring factions come together at the end of the storyline. Sometimes when lines are drawn it's difficult to turn back. Especially with egos involved.

 

[MenInG]

Very impressed - probably Shahryar Khan's forte due to his years as a diplomat.

 

[Syed1]

Welldone Sheri uncle. That was curt, to the point and penetrative.

The ACB and Afghanistan should be completely shunned because of their back-stabbing ways.

 

[Junaids]

The last sentence is a disgrace.

Precisely what "inadequacies" are due to the ACB?

Gratuitous and offensive.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

The last sentence is a disgrace.

Precisely what "inadequacies" are due to the ACB?

Gratuitous and offensive.

Failure to deal with law and order. Inadequate is being polite.

What a horrid and conceited statement by ACB.

 

[Sherlock]

The last sentence is a disgrace.

Precisely what "inadequacies" are due to the ACB?

Gratuitous and offensive.

I think you're reading too much into that last part, tbh.

 

[ahmedzee]

Maybe India should be playing Afghanistan in Kabul...that's a match made in heaven

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Maybe India should be playing Afghanistan in Kabul...that's a match made in heaven

They will never go but they will give ACB money to bad mouth Pakistan at every opportunity.

Same goes for BCB.

These boards are in their pockets and are paid to keep away from PCB.

Desperate attempt by India to make us irrelevant in cricket. This will never happen we are an institution of the sport.

Don't worry we will win the in the end. This dirty game can only go on for so long.

 

[Faisalsq092]

Maybe India should be playing Afghanistan in Kabul...that's a match made in heaven

Yup, that would be great. This will be the litmus test for all the tall claims made by India being a friend of Afghanistan. Afghanistan didn't consider us friends and yet we were there ready to be the first country visiting Afghanistan. Lets see if India does the same now.

 

[kukkad kamaal]

Yeah, everything is a conspiracy by India wth

 

[pakistani_banda]

I am glad with this response from pcb. acb needs to be taught a lesson that it can not treat pakistan like this.

 

[Savak]

This was a very polite statement from the PCB

 

[MenInG]

PCB not to issue NOCS for Pak player participation in the Afghan Shpageeza Cricket League 2017

NOCs for Afghanistan T20 league

Lahore June 2, 2017: The PCB announces that none of the players and officials (coaches) contracted to Afghanistan T20 league would be issued NOCs. No Pakistani player or official can feature in the league.

 

[Savak]

Beautiful. Excellent punishment to a Cricket Board and hopefully a lesson to a fellow cricket board to think before acting or speaking. The PCB should go a step forward and forbid any player of Afghan origin from taking part in the PSL or Pakistan's domestic Cricket.

Hopefully the Minnows BCB will fall in line too.

 

[kingusama92]

Perfect statement and well deserved.

ACB was incredibly unprofessional and clearly have shot themselves in the foot.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

NOCs for Afghanistan T20 league

Lahore June 2, 2017: The PCB announces that none of the players and officials (coaches) contracted to Afghanistan T20 league would be issued NOCs. No Pakistani player or official can feature in the league.

Good decision.Lets see what the ACB does now..

 

[tahir_dj]

NOCs for Afghanistan T20 league

Lahore June 2, 2017: The PCB announces that none of the players and officials (coaches) contracted to Afghanistan T20 league would be issued NOCs. No Pakistani player or official can feature in the league.

Good
this is what need to be done.

 

[Savak]

Good decision.Lets see what the ACB does now..

Lol like what can they do? What can a minnow board and country do against the 4th major ICC Cricketing nation after India, Australia and England?

Minnows need to be put in their place and reminded about who they really are. Hopefully the PCB will deal with the Bangladeshi Cricket Board in a similar manner as well.

 

[Sherlock]

I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of India/Bangladesh don't try to fill the void that Pakistan has left.

ACB must have gotten a heads-up from elsewhere as to the backing their "political" decision and if needs be, replacing Pakistan to play Afghanistan. Just be 2-cents.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Great statement.

Time for the Afghans to be put in their place.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

Beautiful. Excellent punishment to a Cricket Board and hopefully a lesson to a fellow cricket board to think before acting or speaking. The PCB should go a step forward and forbid any player of Afghan origin from taking part in the PSL or Pakistan's domestic Cricket.

Hopefully the Minnows BCB will fall in line too.

Hopefully, also from club cricket competitions and Ramzan tournaments too.

 

[MenInG]

Any issues with our modding etc goes to MRR.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

BCCI have formed an Asian block and are paying boards to keep distant from Pakistan.

We need to build closer ties with the western boards and become safe enough to host them.

 

[Shafi]

Finally a good decision. PCB should stop giving free facilities to these (Puppet Karzai Afghan authority) long time ago. PCB kept their ear block even they were very rude in the past. Let them be a beggar to BCCI.
Enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We should do the same to puppet hasina Bangladesh board same.

 

[HinderTheJinder]

Why were they even sending players to Afghanistan? It was an atrocious decision and I hope Bangladeshi players pull out as well

 

[cric_man]

I find it odd that atleast some Bangla players (Tamim, Sabbir, Kayes) signed up for the Afghan T20 to be played in Kabul but won't visit Pakistan due to security reasons?

 

[Executioner]

I find it odd that atleast some Bangla players (Tamim, Sabbir, Kayes) signed up for the Afghan T20 to be played in Kabul but won't visit Pakistan due to security reasons?

Tamim Shakib were interested in traveling to Pakistan.

Heck Tamim visits Pakistan often for bats

 

[Rayyman]

Good
this is what need to be done.

Agreed, but it's not like they were getting any big-names from Pakistan anyway.

 

[GreenShirts]

Tamim Shakib were interested in traveling to Pakistan.

Heck Tamim visits Pakistan often for bats

Yes Tamim has reiterated his support for cricket in Pakistan,through twitter.

 

[MMHS]

I find it odd that atleast some Bangla players (Tamim, Sabbir, Kayes) signed up for the Afghan T20 to be played in Kabul but won't visit Pakistan due to security reasons?

Your find is not correct - go and check yourself first.

Clue for you is - players playing individual league does that on own responsibility.

 

[BDwarriors]

How many pakistani player or coach was supposed to play in the league? Not more than 5-6 or?

 

[PakLFC]

Pak were the only ones trying to help Afghan Cricket. Now no one will be interested in playing them anywhere. They are just an ungrateful people and country blaming Pakistan for everything that happens there.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

I find it odd that atleast some Bangla players (Tamim, Sabbir, Kayes) signed up for the Afghan T20 to be played in Kabul but won't visit Pakistan due to security reasons?

You call it odd I call it dirty politics.

 

[ExpressPacer]

BCCI have formed an Asian block and are paying boards to keep distant from Pakistan.

We need to build closer ties with the western boards and become safe enough to host them.

They can pay them for only do long. The Asian block consists of minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan and a deteriorating Sri Lanka (who are still on our side btw). Pakistan doesn't need to make a move here. They can pay them only for so long.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Tamim Shakib were interested in traveling to Pakistan.

Heck Tamim visits Pakistan often for bats

I have always maintained Bangladesh people are not a reflection of their board or Govt. I visited around a decade ago and there was a lot of love for Pakistan. Not sure how opinion of Pakistan is at the moment but still can't be as bad as we assume.

 

[cric_man]

Your find is not correct - go and check yourself first.

Clue for you is - players playing individual league does that on own responsibility.

The initial reason given by BCB for not touring Pakistan was that the players are refusing to go due to security reasons.

 

[Khwaja]

Afghanistan should play with Uganda... not with England, Pakistan, and Australia

 

[Executioner]

I have always maintained Bangladesh people are not a reflection of their board or Govt. I visited around a decade ago and there was a lot of love for Pakistan. Not sure how opinion of Pakistan is at the moment but still can't be as bad as we assume.

General public has hatred towards the Pakistan army and it's activities before our liberation war but no one has any resentment toward Pakistan as a nation or its people.

BCB too have been trying to maintain good relationship with PCB but forcing Bangladesh to tour Pakistan is not a good decision.

 

[world cup captain]

Agreed, but it's not like they were getting any big-names from Pakistan anyway.

Ah, Babar was going to play in Afghanistan. I don't think there is a bigger player than him in Pakistan right now.

 

[Executioner]

The initial reason given by BCB for not touring Pakistan was that the players are refusing to go due to security reasons.

Never said that players showed individual concern.

Players are only XI people. There is the opinion of two Lankans, a west indian, an Indian and an Englishman too. And other BCB officials.

You see our security team/advisor felt it was unsafe and so BCB was against it. If the security team deemed it safe then Bangladesh would definitely tour.

 

[HinderTheJinder]

Urdu speaking Bangladeshis like Tamim Iqbal still have something for Pakistan

 

[Hamza_]

PCB needs to re consider it's stance with Bangladesh Board. Better relations between two can help both PCB and BCB, Also Bangladesh Cricket Team has great fan following. Many Bangladeshis might be residing in UAE.

 

[AFG_Brit]

Afghanistan should play with Uganda... not with England, Pakistan, and Australia

Pakistan is number 8th on ODI rankings and Afghanistan is number 10, we both should be playing vs Uganda. No shame for Afghanistan as they have been playing cricket for 10 odd years but Pakistan have been playing cricket for 50+ years! Why is your team in such a bad state?

 

[HinderTheJinder]

SL should never turn its back on Pakistan.We helped them when they were fighting war against the rebels

 

[AFG_Brit]

Pak were the only ones trying to help Afghan Cricket. Now no one will be interested in playing them anywhere. They are just an ungrateful people and country blaming Pakistan for everything that happens there.

You have a crystal ball that you know no one will play Afghanistan?

Can you please tell us if Pakistan will win champions trophy or will they be kicked out in group stages?

 

[HinderTheJinder]

You have a crystal ball that you know no one will play Afghanistan?

Can you please tell us if Pakistan will win champions trophy or will they be kicked out in group stages?

Afghanistan aren't even playing in CT and will never play in it.Team full of hacks and bits and pieces is only God for T20s

 

[AFG_Brit]

Afghanistan aren't even playing in CT and will never play in it.Team full of hacks and bits and pieces is only God for T20s

Last time I checked the rules only top 8 teams were supposed to play in champions trophy and Afghanistan are ranked 10! So how can we playing in champions trophy?

You seem to be able to predict the future too, so you can answer my previous questions about Pakistan's chances in champions trophy?

 

[cric_man]

Never said that players showed individual concern.

Players are only XI people. There is the opinion of two Lankans, a west indian, an Indian and an Englishman too. And other BCB officials.

You see our security team/advisor felt it was unsafe and so BCB was against it. If the security team deemed it safe then Bangladesh would definitely tour.

So the BCB security advisers are OK with Tamim/Kayes/Sabbir playing in Kabul which is 100 times worse than any part of Pakistan from a security perspective?
I get it, they are individuals. But are also under contract with BCB which has invested a lot in them from a development perspective. I assume they got NOCs to play in Afghanistan from BCB. I am just trying to point out in the whole "can't visit Pakistan due to security" excuse.
Security has become better in Pakistan, and as the recent Manchester bombing has shown, even first world countries can't stop terrorist acts.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

So the BCB security advisers are OK with Tamim/Kayes/Sabbir playing in Kabul which is 100 times worse than any part of Pakistan from a security perspective?
I get it, they are individuals. But are also under contract with BCB which has invested a lot in them from a development perspective. I assume they got NOCs to play in Afghanistan from BCB. I am just trying to point out in the whole "can't visit Pakistan due to security" excuse.
Security has become better in Pakistan, and as the recent Manchester bombing has shown, even first world countries can't stop terrorist acts.

Finally PPers are seeing my rationale.

 

[BDwarriors]

So the BCB security advisers are OK with Tamim/Kayes/Sabbir playing in Kabul which is 100 times worse than any part of Pakistan from a security perspective?
I get it, they are individuals. But are also under contract with BCB which has invested a lot in them from a development perspective. I assume they got NOCs to play in Afghanistan from BCB. I am just trying to point out in the whole "can't visit Pakistan due to security" excuse.
Security has become better in Pakistan, and as the recent Manchester bombing has shown, even first world countries can't stop terrorist acts.

Bangladeshi players havent receive any NOC yet. And player from newzealand and zimbawue also supposed to take part i. The league.

http://www.newagebd.net/article/16400/bdeshi-trio-picked-for-afghan-t20

 

[moghul]

Press Release

PCB rejects stance of Afghanistan Cricket Board

Lahore June 1:



The PCB strongly rejects the baseless allegations levelled by Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) in the wake of the tragic Kabul blast. While our sympathies are with the victims and families affected by the tragedy, we reject the irresponsible statement made by the ACB and hereby announce the cancellation of the proposed series between the two countries.

PCB has always encouraged the development of cricket in Afghanistan and millions of Afghan refugees were first introduced to the game in Pakistan. Over the years, the PCB helped cricketers in Afghanistan develop their expertise and an entire generation of Afghan national players honed their cricketing skills in Pakistan.

The informal understanding with ACB last weekend was strictly subject to conducive security conditions in Afghanistan and now stands cancelled because of continuing insecurity and instability there.

It is also deeply regrettable that the ACB delegation in Pakistan was at pains to insist that politics should not impinge on cricket but has now turned around and is playing politics by laying the blame for its troubles and inadequacies on Pakistan.

India has a definite role in that statement issued by ACB.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Pakistan is number 8th on ODI rankings and Afghanistan is number 10, we both should be playing vs Uganda. No shame for Afghanistan as they have been playing cricket for 10 odd years but Pakistan have been playing cricket for 50+ years! Why is your team in such a bad state?

Would like to know how many points separate 6th and 8th spots in the ICC ranking?

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[Arham_PakFan]

Pakistan is number 8th on ODI rankings and Afghanistan is number 10, we both should be playing vs Uganda. No shame for Afghanistan as they have been playing cricket for 10 odd years but Pakistan have been playing cricket for 50+ years! Why is your team in such a bad state?

The Afghanistan cricket team is basically Pakistan pt 2 since most of their players originated fron and learned their cricket in Pakistan.I can name M.Nabi and M.Shahzad just off the top of my head,who learned their cricket in refugee camps in Pakistan.Afghanistan wouldn't have been number 10 if it weren't for Pakistan.

And also,there is a big difference between number 8 and 10 in the rankings.Pakistan has 88 rating points while Afghanistan has 52,meanwhile the difference b/w Pakistan and Bangladesh(6) is 7 points.

 

[cric_man]

Would like to know how many points separate 6th and 8th spots in the ICC ranking?

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ICC ODI Ranking
RANK TEAM RATINGS
1 South Africa 123
2 Australia 118
3 India 117
4 New Zealand 115
5 England 110
6 Sri Lanka 93
7 Bangladesh 91
8 Pakistan 88
9 West Indies 79
10 Afghanistan 52
11 Zimbabwe 46
12 Ireland 42

 

[Pakpak]

Last time I checked the rules only top 8 teams were supposed to play in champions trophy and Afghanistan are ranked 10! So how can we playing in champions trophy?

You seem to be able to predict the future too, so you can answer my previous questions about Pakistan's chances in champions trophy?

Our team is only poor in ODIs. In Tests its still formidable and decent at worst and was number one not long ago. Our team also has a rich legacy and a rich history, which will take rubble-land another 500 years to reach.

 

[Pakpak]

The Afghanistan cricket team is basically Pakistan pt 2 since most of their players originated fron and learned their cricket in Pakistan.I can name M.Nabi and M.Shahzad just off the top of my head,who learned their cricket in refugee camps in Pakistan.Afghanistan wouldn't have been number 10 if it weren't for Pakistan.

And also,there is a big difference between number 8 and 10 in the rankings.Pakistan has 88 rating points while Afghanistan has 52,meanwhile the difference b/w Pakistan and Bangladesh(6) is 7 points.

Its 3 points, but I get your mistake. The way BD posters crow about rankings you'd think they're 50 points ahead of us.

 

[HinderTheJinder]

Last time I checked the rules only top 8 teams were supposed to play in champions trophy and Afghanistan are ranked 10! So how can we playing in champions trophy?

You seem to be able to predict the future too, so you can answer my previous questions about Pakistan's chances in champions trophy?

Every team in the world has a bad patch for e.g look at Brazil,They were pathetic during 2006-2015 and uncompetitive at the bigger stage but that doesn't mean Belgium or Wales have better team than them

 

[Usman Chadda]

Its 3 points, but I get your mistake. The way BD posters crow about rankings you'd think they're 50 points ahead of us.

Bangladesh in their best era is just 3 points away from Pakistan, which is going through its worst era. The attitude of the BD posters makes no sense whatsoever.

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[cric_man]

LOL, I have derailed this thread and turned it into a Bangla bashing thread.
My apologies. It has been a slow day for me @ work

 

[Savak]

Bangladesh in their best era is just 3 points away from Pakistan, which is going through its worst era. The attitude of the BD posters makes no sense whatsoever.

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Let the minnows over celebrate their once in a blue moon success and achievements. The averages always even out and the minnows will always be minnows.

 

[PakLFC]

You have a crystal ball that you know no one will play Afghanistan?

Can you please tell us if Pakistan will win champions trophy or will they be kicked out in group stages?

We are in it to win it. No one is interested in playing Afghanistan. Only Pak did because we felt sorry for you but not anymore.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Precisely, it was arranged to help Afghanistan but their Stupidity got in the way, looks like the people who run ACB are jahil.

Its amazing what money can do to people.

 

[Khwaja]

Pakistan is number 8th on ODI rankings and Afghanistan is number 10, we both should be playing vs Uganda. No shame for Afghanistan as they have been playing cricket for 10 odd years but Pakistan have been playing cricket for 50+ years! Why is your team in such a bad state?

Lol.. Pakistan is in a bad state?? Which is why Afghanistan doesn't have a single victory in ANY format against the top 10 test nations? As we speak, you are getting whipped by West Indies. LOL.. what a chase by WINDIES!!!

 

[MMHS]

The initial reason given by BCB for not touring Pakistan was that the players are refusing to go due to security reasons.

BCB was telling fact.

That was 2013 (or 2012?), when the Lahore incident was a just recent memory. I have personal contacts with few players that were certain to tour. Some, if not all of them were willing to tour, even BCB managed to convince the Coach, but it was the family members of players that asked them to decline the tour. BCB then made the participation optional - one by one players started to decline, probable what left was Bangladesh D team of 2012-13 standard. Then someone submitted a petition in SC on the safety issue of players & honorable justice put an injunction on the tour, based on proper hearing - there were witness from security expert of special force of Bangladesh Army. Before that, selectors had their initial meeting as well. I had few detailed post on this around that time.

You can have a click at these -

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/hig...gladesh-from-touring-pakistan-281425.html/amp
http://dailytimes.com.pk/editorial/21-Apr-12/bangladesh-courts-injunction
http://nation.com.pk/sports/29-Jun-2012/bangladesh-still-keen-on-pakistan-tour



Since then, lots of things have improved/changed - PAK's internal security has improved, but relation with India had a nose dive, while relation between BD-IND, BCB-BCCI got closer. Despite lots of political differences, Govt. didn't ban PAK players in BPL or Dhaka League, didn't stop BD players participating PSL, even touring PAK for PSL final - a BD high performance team would have definitely toured PAK & against common belief, I can assure you that, at least 6-7 players of that HP team will make BD squad of 2023 WC - it was a genuine commitment from BCB. Still, I am sure BD would have been the first team to tour PAK, without these media stunt of PCB Officials & the final nail in coffin was to decline the BD tour.

PCB has dug own grave & now they have to climb out from there gradually, step by step - security issues are like a fleck of birds, all of them flies away at 1st shot, but returns one by one. Thoughts like IND creating an anti PAK block within Asian boards, is partially true - but that only tells that PCB has to play cards even more tactfully, keeping cards closer to chest - if you think that bullying will work, then good luck for our generation. On top of that, your current & next Chairman loves to make media mockery at every chance - which makes not only PCB, whole PAK state as a laughing stalk.

 

[KyoOne]

ACB's statement was clearly sent from their notorious spy agency. No way would ACB have hurled the kind of hurtful allegations on a country who has supported their cricket so much.

We even allowed Afghan team in t20 and other domestic competitions. There was even an international match in honor of Afghan President Ghani when he visited Pakistan for one and only time.

I've have always prayed for Afghan cricket success, have loved their cricketers, it pains the kind of words ACB has returned to its most supportive board.

PCB has all rights to severe ties with Afghan cricket.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

ISIS claimed responsibility for the bomb attack but they are blaming Pakistan. No investigation just blame game to capture world media attention. How can Pakistan be involved when ISIS did it? This is just an attempt to malign Pakistan.

PCB should throw out at all the youth Afghan players from NCA and never deal with Afghanistan again. After everything Pakistan has done for them, its a slap on our face. Never deal with them again.

 

[Savak]

ISIS claimed responsibility for the bomb attack but they are blaming Pakistan. No investigation just blame game to capture world media attention. How can Pakistan be involved when ISIS did it? This is just an attempt to malign Pakistan.

PCB should throw out at all the youth Afghan players from NCA and never deal with Afghanistan again. After everything Pakistan has done for them, its a slap on our face. Never deal with them again.

Same applies to Bangladesh as well.

 

[Sherlock]

ISIS claimed responsibility for the bomb attack but they are blaming Pakistan. No investigation just blame game to capture world media attention. How can Pakistan be involved when ISIS did it? This is just an attempt to malign Pakistan.

PCB should throw out at all the youth Afghan players from NCA and never deal with Afghanistan again. After everything Pakistan has done for them, its a slap on our face. Never deal with them again.

Tbf, ISIS would claim responsibility for a local corner shop being raided as long as people around the World think it's them.

 

[cric_man]

BCB was telling fact.

That was 2013 (or 2012?), when the Lahore incident was a just recent memory. I have personal contacts with few players that were certain to tour. Some, if not all of them were willing to tour, even BCB managed to convince the Coach, but it was the family members of players that asked them to decline the tour. BCB then made the participation optional - one by one players started to decline, probable what left was Bangladesh D team of 2012-13 standard. Then someone submitted a petition in SC on the safety issue of players & honorable justice put an injunction on the tour, based on proper hearing - there were witness from security expert of special force of Bangladesh Army. Before that, selectors had their initial meeting as well. I had few detailed post on this around that time.

You can have a click at these -

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/hig...gladesh-from-touring-pakistan-281425.html/amp
http://dailytimes.com.pk/editorial/21-Apr-12/bangladesh-courts-injunction
http://nation.com.pk/sports/29-Jun-2012/bangladesh-still-keen-on-pakistan-tour



Since then, lots of things have improved/changed - PAK's internal security has improved, but relation with India had a nose dive, while relation between BD-IND, BCB-BCCI got closer. Despite lots of political differences, Govt. didn't ban PAK players in BPL or Dhaka League, didn't stop BD players participating PSL, even touring PAK for PSL final - a BD high performance team would have definitely toured PAK & against common belief, I can assure you that, at least 6-7 players of that HP team will make BD squad of 2023 WC - it was a genuine commitment from BCB. Still, I am sure BD would have been the first team to tour PAK, without these media stunt of PCB Officials & the final nail in coffin was to decline the BD tour.

PCB has dug own grave & now they have to climb out from there gradually, step by step - security issues are like a fleck of birds, all of them flies away at 1st shot, but returns one by one. Thoughts like IND creating an anti PAK block within Asian boards, is partially true - but that only tells that PCB has to play cards even more tactfully, keeping cards closer to chest - if you think that bullying will work, then good luck for our generation. On top of that, your current & next Chairman loves to make media mockery at every chance - which makes not only PCB, whole PAK state as a laughing stalk.

So according to you BCB was willing to play in Pak (they did not initially say Bangladesh wants the series in UAE) back in 2012/13, most of the players were willing, it was their family members who had misgivings. The board then acquiesced to these tertiary actors? and now these family members are A-OK with their loved ones going and playing cricket in Kabul where the the so called Afghan government doesn't even have any writ outside of a small green zone let alone the whole of Kabul. This is after 16 years of heavy US military presence and over a trillion dollars spent in rebuilding / propping up the Afg government.
Then you go on to say that the security situation has improved in Pakistan but Pak-Ind relations have taken a nose dive. How does Pak-Ind relationship have any impact on Pak-Bangla relations? Isn't BCB an independent board? unless you are confirming our impression that BCB is a stooge/puppet board of BCCI and takes it marching order from Delhi.
Looking from Pakistani perspective, we were played by Bangladesh. Due to the current Hasina Wajid government in power and their vitriolic anti-Pak views, the tour was never going to happen. Mustafa Kamal wanted Pakistani vote for the ICC chairmanship , which if I am not mistaken was Pakistan's turn and they vacated in Bangladesh's favor. He led PCB on, and then washed his hands away once he was elected ICC chairman. So it is quite understanding that how much that embarrassed Pakistan.
I do agree with you that PCB has bumbled and committed one embarrassing faux pas after the other.
We have inherited moronic Ijaz Butt, clueless Zaka Ashraf, and a semi senile Sheherya khan who has to blurt his mouth and harp about the silly India MOU atleast once a week.
We have shot ourselves in the foot mre than once in the recent past. in 2010 Giles Clarke was doing his utmost to bring cricket back to Pakistan and also to financially prop Pakistan. He was instrumental in setting up PAK-Aus tests in England. Unfortunately that door was slammed shut with the fixing scandal and then Ijaz Butt accusing Eng of fixing the game.
I agree that Pakistan let India first make money off us by getting Pakistan to play in India with just a verbal hint that they may play in UAE and again by agreeing to the Big 3 pan with just the so called MOU with india of 4 future series.
But I whole hardheartedly agree with the stance taken via-a-vis BCB and now Afg CB.
We should have politely informed BCB after the last Pakistan visit to Bangladesh that any future bilateral relationship hinges on Bang. visiting Pakistan as originally agreed upon. It should have been done without the press conferences and unilaterally announcing series which BCB then rejected.
Geo-politics is a fickle thing, you have no idea what can boomerang back and bite you in your beeeehind
I see, Pakistan inshaAllah recovering substantially in the next 5 years both economically and security wise. Who knows the current wedge b/w BCCI and ECB/ACB may highlight PCB's importance?

 

[PakLFC]

The Afghan army need to kill these terrorists even if they are Pakistani. Take them out by doing your own zarb-e-azb and radd-ul-fasad. Now they will blame Pak for having a crap army incapable of doing anything.

 

[PakLFC]

No Afghan player will even get in to Pakistan's worst side. It is ridiculous to even think that their ragtag side is Pak's B one or second eleven! I can make a team of family and friends who will give Afghanistan a good beating! By all means this Pak side is not a great one yet we still defeated the West Indies on their own territory. I see good times ahead for Pak Cricket, insha Allah.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

So according to you BCB was willing to play in Pak (they did not initially say Bangladesh wants the series in UAE) back in 2012/13, most of the players were willing, it was their family members who had misgivings. The board then acquiesced to these tertiary actors? and now these family members are A-OK with their loved ones going and playing cricket in Kabul where the the so called Afghan government doesn't even have any writ outside of a small green zone let alone the whole of Kabul. This is after 16 years of heavy US military presence and over a trillion dollars spent in rebuilding / propping up the Afg government.
Then you go on to say that the security situation has improved in Pakistan but Pak-Ind relations have taken a nose dive. How does Pak-Ind relationship have any impact on Pak-Bangla relations? Isn't BCB an independent board? unless you are confirming our impression that BCB is a stooge/puppet board of BCCI and takes it marching order from Delhi.
Looking from Pakistani perspective, we were played by Bangladesh. Due to the current Hasina Wajid government in power and their vitriolic anti-Pak views, the tour was never going to happen. Mustafa Kamal wanted Pakistani vote for the ICC chairmanship , which if I am not mistaken was Pakistan's turn and they vacated in Bangladesh's favor. He led PCB on, and then washed his hands away once he was elected ICC chairman. So it is quite understanding that how much that embarrassed Pakistan.
I do agree with you that PCB has bumbled and committed one embarrassing faux pas after the other.
We have inherited moronic Ijaz Butt, clueless Zaka Ashraf, and a semi senile Sheheryar khan who has to blurt his mouth and harp about the silly India MOU atleast once a week.
We have shot ourselves in the foot more than once in the recent past. In 2010 Giles Clarke was doing his utmost to bring cricket back to Pakistan and also to financially prop Pakistan. He was instrumental in setting up PAK-Aus tests in England. Unfortunately that door was slammed shut with the fixing scandal and then ***** Ijaz Butt accusing Eng of fixing the game.
I agree that Pakistan let India first make money off us by getting Pakistan to play in India with just a verbal hint that they may play in UAE and again by agreeing to the Big 3 plan with just the so called MOU with india of 4 future series.
But I whole hardheartedly agree with the stance taken via-a-vis BCB and now Afg CB.
We should have politely informed BCB after the last Pakistan visit to Bangladesh that any future bilateral relationship hinges on Bang. visiting Pakistan as originally agreed upon. It should have been done without the press conferences and unilaterally announcing series which BCB then rejected.
Geo-politics is a fickle thing, you have no idea what can boomerang back and bite you in your beeeehind
I see, Pakistan inshaAllah recovering substantially in the next 5 years both economically and security wise. Who knows the current wedge b/w BCCI and ECB/ACB may highlight PCB's importance?

Brother you're harping to a bloke who genuinely believes Pak, by 2023, would be outside the top 10 cricket playing nations......

I'd recommend watching paint dry instead....

 

[MMHS]

So according to you BCB was willing to play in Pak (they did not initially say Bangladesh wants the series in UAE) back in 2012/13, most of the players were willing, it was their family members who had misgivings. The board then acquiesced to these tertiary actors? and now these family members are A-OK with their loved ones going and playing cricket in Kabul where the the so called Afghan government doesn't even have any writ outside of a small green zone let alone the whole of Kabul. This is after 16 years of heavy US military presence and over a trillion dollars spent in rebuilding / propping up the Afg government.
Then you go on to say that the security situation has improved in Pakistan but Pak-Ind relations have taken a nose dive. How does Pak-Ind relationship have any impact on Pak-Bangla relations? Isn't BCB an independent board? unless you are confirming our impression that BCB is a stooge/puppet board of BCCI and takes it marching order from Delhi.
Looking from Pakistani perspective, we were played by Bangladesh. Due to the current Hasina Wajid government in power and their vitriolic anti-Pak views, the tour was never going to happen. Mustafa Kamal wanted Pakistani vote for the ICC chairmanship , which if I am not mistaken was Pakistan's turn and they vacated in Bangladesh's favor. He led PCB on, and then washed his hands away once he was elected ICC chairman. So it is quite understanding that how much that embarrassed Pakistan.
I do agree with you that PCB has bumbled and committed one embarrassing faux pas after the other.
We have inherited moronic Ijaz Butt, clueless Zaka Ashraf, and a semi senile Sheherya khan who has to blurt his mouth and harp about the silly India MOU atleast once a week.
We have shot ourselves in the foot mre than once in the recent past. in 2010 Giles Clarke was doing his utmost to bring cricket back to Pakistan and also to financially prop Pakistan. He was instrumental in setting up PAK-Aus tests in England. Unfortunately that door was slammed shut with the fixing scandal and then Ijaz Butt accusing Eng of fixing the game.
I agree that Pakistan let India first make money off us by getting Pakistan to play in India with just a verbal hint that they may play in UAE and again by agreeing to the Big 3 pan with just the so called MOU with india of 4 future series.
But I whole hardheartedly agree with the stance taken via-a-vis BCB and now Afg CB.
We should have politely informed BCB after the last Pakistan visit to Bangladesh that any future bilateral relationship hinges on Bang. visiting Pakistan as originally agreed upon. It should have been done without the press conferences and unilaterally announcing series which BCB then rejected.
Geo-politics is a fickle thing, you have no idea what can boomerang back and bite you in your beeeehind
I see, Pakistan inshaAllah recovering substantially in the next 5 years both economically and security wise. Who knows the current wedge b/w BCCI and ECB/ACB may highlight PCB's importance?

More or less, you are reciprocating my thoughts, so no issues. Only that you are taking Bg your frustration against AFG board on BCB, which is uncalled for. Regarding PAK or tour in PAK, even now if you read the statements of AFG Board officials & BCB officials side by side you should see the difference.

I was a frequent traveler to PAK - I stayed at the same Marriot 2 months before that incident. In 2013, I decided not to travel Islamabad, by far the safest city in PAK (to be precise - to Mobilink tower) & I have not grudge against oak people as a whole. Same me, travelled to Mumbai in January 2008, despite having a name that starts with Mohammad - and I travelled as a tourist to roam around the same Noriman point & south Colaba as a common man. This is called trust & credibility, which PCB lost with 3-9.

Relationship with ind has a major impact on when or whom tours PAK - BCB is just part of that with many others, despite being a throughly professional & independent board. If you don't wish to admit that - fair enough.

 

[MMHS]

Brother you're harping to a bloke who genuinely believes Pak, by 2023, would be outside the top 10 cricket playing nations......

I'd recommend watching paint dry instead....

As usual, you are twisting words - just add a small line to that, you should believe as well, though your ego might not allow to admit that - "unless domestic structure & overall cricket system improves".

By the way, I never said PAK will be out of top 10, in a sports seriously played by 8-9 countries, half of those also not good at that as well & in half of those 8-9, this game is struggling to keep it's position in hirearchy. What I said that PAK will play qualifiers in a 10 team WC; which actually I said sometimes in 2014; 9 years before 2023. Ironically, it almost came true as early as 2017, still can come in 2019 - so indeed you can plan to watch paint dry ...

 

[cric_man]

More or less, you are reciprocating my thoughts, so no issues. Only that you are taking Bg your frustration against AFG board on BCB, which is uncalled for. Regarding PAK or tour in PAK, even now if you read the statements of AFG Board officials & BCB officials side by side you should see the difference.

I was a frequent traveler to PAK - I stayed at the same Marriot 2 months before that incident. In 2013, I decided not to travel Islamabad, by far the safest city in PAK (to be precise - to Mobilink tower) & I have not grudge against oak people as a whole. Same me, travelled to Mumbai in January 2008, despite having a name that starts with Mohammad - and I travelled as a tourist to roam around the same Noriman point & south Colaba as a common man. This is called trust & credibility, which PCB lost with 3-9.

Relationship with ind has a major impact on when or whom tours PAK - BCB is just part of that with many others, despite being a throughly professional & independent board. If you don't wish to admit that - fair enough.

I was not "reciprocating" your thoughts nor was I taking your frustrations out Bangladesh. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy vis-a vis Bang. OK with playing in Kabul but not playing in Pakistan.
Your last point doesn't make any sense regarding relationship in with India predicating other boards visiting Pakistan. If they are no inclined then they are not independent. Your last two sentences contradict themselves. I don't believe boards like SA /WI /Zim /SL will think about hurting India's feeling when deciding when and where they play Pakistan.
Anyways don't twist yourself into a pretzel trying to justify the actions... enjoy the game cheers.

 

[MMHS]

I was not "reciprocating" your thoughts nor was I taking your frustrations out Bangladesh. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy vis-a vis Bang. OK with playing in Kabul but not playing in Pakistan.
Your last point doesn't make any sense regarding relationship in with India predicating other boards visiting Pakistan. If they are no inclined then they are not independent. Your last two sentences contradict themselves. I don't believe boards like SA /WI /Zim /SL will think about hurting India's feeling when deciding when and where they play Pakistan.
Anyways don't twist yourself into a pretzel trying to justify the actions... enjoy the game cheers.

BCB is not playing in Kabul - BD players are playing in a T20 league, which they were allowed for PSL Final as well.